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 . (19.8 million) Any of us who had been vaccinated could have been 1 of those 20 million. It's great to see such news, especially when there are still scare stories that spout from the taps of those who are naysayers, etc.
Richer countries did better, due to earlier and larger vaccine access levels.
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"A study (Watson, et al) published this month has found that 20 million deaths were prevented by the Covid vaccines in their 1st year of use. . (19.8 million) Any of us who had been vaccinated could have been 1 of those 20 million. It's great to see such news, especially when there are still scare stories that spout from the taps of those who are naysayers, etc.
Richer countries did better, due to earlier and larger vaccine access levels.
"Amazing! Vaccination is the single greatest life saver in medicine. | |||
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"You honestly believe this? " You honestly don't ?? | |||
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"You honestly believe this? " You've done some data modelling and analysis, then published it? More credible? I'll take a look, as it's healthy to be open-minded, isn't it? | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. " How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention?" Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs." Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree " Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside | |||
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"A study (Watson, et al) published this month has found that 20 million deaths were prevented by the Covid vaccines in their 1st year of use. . (19.8 million) Any of us who had been vaccinated could have been 1 of those 20 million. It's great to see such news, especially when there are still scare stories that spout from the taps of those who are naysayers, etc.
Richer countries did better, due to earlier and larger vaccine access levels.
Amazing! Vaccinations are the single greatest life saver in medicine."FTFY. Winston | |||
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"A study (Watson, et al) published this month has found that 20 million deaths were prevented by the Covid vaccines in their 1st year of use. . (19.8 million) Any of us who had been vaccinated could have been 1 of those 20 million. It's great to see such news, especially when there are still scare stories that spout from the taps of those who are naysayers, etc.
Richer countries did better, due to earlier and larger vaccine access levels.
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. " Why are you constantly on here supporting the poisonous vaccine then? | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. " I am simply not a fan of modelling/use of algorithms. Research is undertaken all the time. There will be vast opportunities to measure the effects of vaccinations longitudinally - all it takes is time. Btw I'm not here to convince anyone, however, IRL I do have to provide information or signpost to info, so that others may make an informed decision. | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. Why are you constantly on here supporting the poisonous vaccine then? " "The ... Vaccine..." There are several available. Which one are you actually discrediting? | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. Why are you constantly on here supporting the poisonous vaccine then? " Why are you on here supporting lies about vaccines? | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. Why are you constantly on here supporting the poisonous vaccine then? " Poisonous vaccine? Gosh. Such a thing would be terrible and must be stopped! Oh. You mean the fear porn that fraudsters use to enrich themselves. Right  | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. I am simply not a fan of modelling/use of algorithms. Research is undertaken all the time. There will be vast opportunities to measure the effects of vaccinations longitudinally - all it takes is time. Btw I'm not here to convince anyone, however, IRL I do have to provide information or signpost to info, so that others may make an informed decision." Obviously there are numerous research methods that have benefits and drawbacks. Providing information is worthwhile, however information literacy in the general population is extremely low, and we see the results of this not just in public health, but in all sorts of areas where the loud and charismatic prey upon the arrogant but intellectually vulnerable. | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative " Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated. | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated." I'm curious about this too. Let's see if we ever get a reply  | |||
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"Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study Oliver J Watson et al. We all know modelling is not an exact science, don't we? I'm am so not an anti-vaxxer but I am sceptical of the figures. How else would you propose that we get a grip on the potential effects of a public health intervention? Do you mean how else can we measure it? I am for the vaccines but wouldn't just advocate them to doubters, I would urge them to do their own research on the various vaccines available and make an informed decision as to which one (if any) is suitable for their individual health needs. Indeed. How do we measure the effect on global health? I think "doing our own research" is vastly overrated. For most people it means employing motivated reasoning to seek things that confirm what they already think. (I have significant training in interdisciplinary academic research, not in science or medicine. I'm very much aware of people's pitfalls) I don't think the virus forum is a place to convince anyone, though, I think it's just a thunderdome. Why are you constantly on here supporting the poisonous vaccine then? Why are you on here supporting lies about vaccines?" "The" vaccine... c'mon Polly, try to keep up.
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"How can they possibly work that out ?!" Well... Once upon a time in a land far far away.. | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside " This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. | |||
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"... because they never lied about UK deaths in their statistical data did they... C'mon people ..you can find any data to agree with your own narrative.. none can categorically be proven as they are based on what could have been incorrect original data in the first instance ... yes, vaccines have saved many millions of lives over many decades .. this however IS STILL NOT A VACCINE .. but each to their own... if believing a narrative helps you in life in a positive way then crack on but please stop preaching and advocating something you have absolutely no factual basis for and we can all go on with our lives "So you think others should stop posting things that you believe have no basis in fact while stating with no evidence that the multiple vaccines are one vaccine that are not vaccines? And we can't trust numerous state bodies, but of course we need to trust the alternative facts and truthiness of the fraudsters who are totally persecuted. | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say." It's pure projection | |||
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"There are many studies show the vaccines have negative efficacy after 5 months. And just to add, none of the vaccines even stop you from getting the disease lol. That must be some kind of first in clown world." Sterilising imminuity, which provides 100% immunity against a virus, is rare in vaccines. It's not a first at all. Flu vaccines reduce illness by 40%-60% depending on the flue strain. Yet we still use them because they still provide protection. There are many studies (see I can do that too) which show the covid vaccines reduce severity of the illness, reduce hospitalisation, and reduce transmission due to infection. | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say." I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong. 
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston "Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom. *Shrug* | |||
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"Guess who funds the Watson institute. Strangly it is companies involved in the manufacture of the vaccine and rich people who own shares in those companies. These same universities stated if we didnt lock down at the start of the pandemic then the world would end. None of their research is to be trusted. Also sensoring of info does happen. It does on here. Several posts have just been removed when people have posted irrefutable facts because the moderators don't agree or the facts have been checked by fact checkers that are paid by the vaccine manufacturers. " Exactly you cannot have an opinion that goes against the official narrative as you will list definitely be cancelled. Same as every other site FB, Ytube etc.. All run like all the NSM media by lefty champagne swilling virtual signallers. You know the type the ones who change their social media statuses from I’ve been triple jabbed to the Ukrainian flag | |||
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"... because they never lied about UK deaths in their statistical data did they... C'mon people ..you can find any data to agree with your own narrative.. none can categorically be proven as they are based on what could have been incorrect original data in the first instance ... yes, vaccines have saved many millions of lives over many decades .. this however IS STILL NOT A VACCINE .. but each to their own... if believing a narrative helps you in life in a positive way then crack on but please stop preaching and advocating something you have absolutely no factual basis for and we can all go on with our lives "Well said. I truly believe there are paid agents on here just the same as all other social media. Event 201 stated that they would have to plant agents to thwart the anti vax narrative. This is all about money and control. They don't give a fuck about public health. | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston " | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston " • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain. | |||
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" champagne swilling virtual signallers. You know the type the ones who change their social media statuses from I’ve been triple jabbed to the Ukrainian flag "See my earlier post  | |||
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"... because they never lied about UK deaths in their statistical data did they... C'mon people ..you can find any data to agree with your own narrative.. none can categorically be proven as they are based on what could have been incorrect original data in the first instance ... yes, vaccines have saved many millions of lives over many decades .. this however IS STILL NOT A VACCINE .. but each to their own... if believing a narrative helps you in life in a positive way then crack on but please stop preaching and advocating something you have absolutely no factual basis for and we can all go on with our lives
Well said. I truly believe there are paid agents on here just the same as all other social media.
Event 201 stated that they would have to plant agents to thwart the anti vax narrative.
This is all about money and control. They don't give a fuck about public health. "Did you not want to say which vaccine you're discrediting? | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain. "Dammit!!!!!! W | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*"The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me ! Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus! Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown."claps* .. yet some cannot distinguish between the 2 .. not really a point there.. but feel free to keep laughing at whoever you wish and leave those who wish an open mind to discover what others choose not to see..or cannot | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
"I was taught how vaccines work at school.
Factual conclusions depend on which facts you look at I'd sat. Goes for both sides of the debate, obvs.
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" claps* .. yet some cannot distinguish between the 2 .. not really a point there.. but feel free to keep laughing at whoever you wish and leave those who wish an open mind to discover what others choose not to see..or cannot " I know this is a pointless question, but do you realise the difference between somehow who goes against the scientific consensus of the day (eg Galileo, Darwin) and has the evidence to back their claims up, and somehow who goes against the consensus and has ranty, rambly YouTube videos to back them up? | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
I was taught how vaccines work at school.
Factual conclusions depend on which facts you look at I'd sat. Goes for both sides of the debate, obvs.
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
claps* .. yet some cannot distinguish between the 2 .. not really a point there.. but feel free to keep laughing at whoever you wish and leave those who wish an open mind to discover what others choose not to see..or cannot
"I'm not aware of any way in which I'd stop anyone from believing whatever they like? I wasn't aware I had that much power
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown."Galileo was forced to recant his heliocentrism... While bozo the clown continued his body of work uninterrupted. | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
Galileo was forced to recant his heliocentrism... While bozo the clown continued his body of work uninterrupted and was eventually elected Prime Minister. "
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
Galileo was forced to recant his heliocentrism... While bozo the clown continued his body of work uninterrupted and was eventually elected Prime Minister.
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
Galileo was forced to recant his heliocentrism... While bozo the clown continued his body of work uninterrupted and was eventually elected Prime Minister.
Winston
Obviously like-minded but you beat me."It was fairly low hanging fruit.
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
Galileo was forced to recant his heliocentrism... While bozo the clown continued his body of work uninterrupted and was eventually elected Prime Minister.
Winston
Obviously like-minded but you beat me."*yawn*... forced yes, isn't that the same with all outliers.. forced to comply just because those in power say it should be so .. like the pied piper some just like to blindly follow Enjoy .. I tend not to rely on blind faith or any faith.. I prefer to see where I am jumping ... Anyhoo .. I have tin foil to unwrap ... don't you have a herd who is missing you ? | |||
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
Galileo was forced to recant his heliocentrism... While bozo the clown continued his body of work uninterrupted and was eventually elected Prime Minister.
Winston
Obviously like-minded but you beat me.
It was fairly low hanging fruit.
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"Utter utter bullshit Totally agree Just another random number plucked from thin air to make the vaccinated feel all virtuous and happy inside This is a very common theme among anti vaxxers. They think everyone is only doing something to be morally superior. All I see on here are anti vaxxers saying they are 'pure', 'woke' and people who are vaccinated are 'sheep'. Quite the opposite I'd say. I like this response to the "sheeple" and "wake up" brigade... “Sheeple” shouts the person who accepts without question the many far-fetched and unsubstantiated narratives, based on “experts” who have no real understanding, background or training in that arena, snake oil salesmen, charlatans, those who are unable to understand data or statistics, and those who use out of context comments and statements to support their own ill-informed bias. “Wake up” says the person who quite clearly slept through every single science class they had in school, who now promotes crackpot conspiracy theories. The “Wake up” irony is strong.
Winston
Virtue signalling cries the person who boasts about their fantastic health, exercise, immune system, and how they're so much cleverer than everyone else, and they alone will defend democracy and freedom.
*Shrug*
The science classes at school ? Were they teaching autoimmunity? Chemical warfare? Scientific data analysis? Vaccines and NON VACCINES? .. wow, clearly I was asleep during those.. Good job I am now a well educated and life skilled adult free to investigate and come to my own factual conclusions.. phew,lucky me !
Wacky ?... hmmm.. so crazy?.. almost every scientist and inventory in history has been labelled those words by those who cannot see past their own beliefs .. we would still be knuckle dragging if it was not for forward thinking humans, brave enough to question a narrative thought 'crazy by the consensus!
Lol... I despair sometimes.. and also pity
While they laughed at Galileo, they also laughed at Bozo the clown.
claps* .. yet some cannot distinguish between the 2 .. not really a point there.. but feel free to keep laughing at whoever you wish and leave those who wish an open mind to discover what others choose not to see..or cannot
I'm not aware of any way in which I'd stop anyone from believing whatever they like? I wasn't aware I had that much power
Or is this the usual "I can say what I like, but if others disagree with me, they're persecuting me?" Afraid freedom of speech applies both ways "Oh it does.. which is why I do not resort to getting fellow debaters banned on forums.. i allow banter and opinions whether they differ from mine or not...works both ways  | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated." Read the study | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated. Read the study " You might need to cite the study first. We're not mind readers, knowing what you're referring to, how you're reading it, etc. | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated. I'm curious about this too. Let's see if we ever get a reply "Try looking at the study Reading this ones was ok.a second time to copy and paste so you dont have to read it im not about to do There is a place for the vax along with nat | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated. I'm curious about this too. Let's see if we ever get a reply
Try looking at the study
Reading this ones was ok.a second time to copy and paste so you dont have to read it im not about to do
There is a place for the vax along with nat"Context is everything. 1. Not yet peer reviewed. 2. Is comparing ONE vaccine against those who already have had covid. And I quote: People who received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine in January or February 2021 were 13 times more likely to get a breakthrough infection with the delta variant than unvaccinated people who had COVID-19 during the same period were to be reinfected. | |||
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"Ring-a-ring-a-rosies A pocket full of posies A tissue, a tissue We all fall down The king has sent his daughter To fetch a pail of water A tissue, a tissue We all fall down The robin on the steeple Is singing to the people A tissue, a tissue We all fall down The wedding bells are ringing The boys and girls are singing A tissue, a tissue We all fall down " Not quite the plague but made me reminisce of my childhood ... and also reminisce of scaremongering tactics lol | |||
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"I suspect some individuals on here have a vested financial or professional interest in keeping the covid hysteria alive…" Yeah. A small % of people on a Swingers site will make a difference | |||
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 trying to stir things up! Why do we keep hashing over this shit making people choose sides in what they believe is the truth. Why cant we just put it to bed! | |||
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"I suspect some individuals on here have a vested financial or professional interest in keeping the covid hysteria alive…" My shares in Pfizer keep going up.. | |||
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"I think FABs page masters are unwittingly, or wittingly trying to stir things up! Why do we keep hashing over this shit making people choose sides in what they believe is the truth. Why cant we just put it to bed!"Agreed.. | |||
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"I think FABs page masters are unwittingly, or wittingly trying to stir things up! Why do we keep hashing over this shit making people choose sides in what they believe is the truth. Why cant we just put it to bed!"Yep, agree. Brings out the worst in ALL sides. | |||
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"A study (Watson, et al) published this month has found that 20 million deaths were prevented by the Covid vaccines in their 1st year of use. . (19.8 million) Any of us who had been vaccinated could have been 1 of those 20 million. It's great to see such news, especially when there are still scare stories that spout from the taps of those who are naysayers, etc.
Richer countries did better, due to earlier and larger vaccine access levels.
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"I think FABs page masters are unwittingly, or wittingly trying to stir things up! Why do we keep hashing over this shit making people choose sides in what they believe is the truth. Why cant we just put it to bed!
Yep, agree. Brings out the worst in ALL sides. "I disagree. Whether you are pro or anti vax, we all need a voice. For me it's just garbage, but people need the right to discuss this and many other topics. I fear we shall soon lose that right.  | |||
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"I think FABs page masters are unwittingly, or wittingly trying to stir things up! Why do we keep hashing over this shit making people choose sides in what they believe is the truth. Why cant we just put it to bed!
Yep, agree. Brings out the worst in ALL sides.
I disagree. Whether you are pro or anti vax, we all need a voice. For me it's just garbage, but people need the right to discuss this and many other topics.
I fear we shall soon lose that right. "Not just freedom of speech | |||
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"I think FABs page masters are unwittingly, or wittingly trying to stir things up! Why do we keep hashing over this shit making people choose sides in what they believe is the truth. Why cant we just put it to bed!
Yep, agree. Brings out the worst in ALL sides.
I disagree. Whether you are pro or anti vax, we all need a voice. For me it's just garbage, but people need the right to discuss this and many other topics.
I fear we shall soon lose that right.
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain.
Dammit!!!!!!
W"Shiny side outwards if you want to reflect the rays they are projecting into your brain, but shiny side inwards if you want to prevent them monitoring your thoughts. For best effect you need two layers back to back, it's the only way to both prevent being mind controlled and stop them eavesdropping on your thoughts. | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain.
Dammit!!!!!!
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Shiny side outwards if you want to reflect the rays they are projecting into your brain, but shiny side inwards if you want to prevent them monitoring your thoughts. For best effect you need two layers back to back, it's the only way to both prevent being mind controlled and stop them eavesdropping on your thoughts."Big mining would tell you that. Keeping usage high of a resource intensive product. | |||
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"Bullshit if you believe that you still beleve in santa computer program inputed with dater you want to give that sinario plandemic nothing more .unmasked unvaxed unafraid " atta girl | |||
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"They sold something that doesn't work and fund the authorities that regulte them amd the organisations that draw up false stats. We are all being lied to over and over again and this is being pushed by America and the power of the dollar. People don't need to wake up everyone can see we are being treated as pawns. They just need to search out news that hasn't been sensored. On reflecting on personal experience those close to me that have been vaccinated have all suffered badly with covid and other worrying conditions including heart attacks, myocarditis, shingles, serious lack of energy, muscle pains. When 2 of them ended up in hospital they were told it was anxiety caused by the vaccine. 1 ended up with a pace maker. This pandemic has been fantastic for the privileged few. The job of a government is to take money off the public and pass it to corporations and billionaires and they have been doing a brilliant job of it. When the depression hits which it surely will everyone will be blaming Putin while the fat cats are laughing all the way to their gold reserves and we will be queuing 100 deep to buy a loaf of bread with £500 notes. Its the bigger picture that is most important and everyone is caught up in petty arguments and being distracted from the real danger here. We could be 6 months away from SriLanka. Peace and love to you all " Oh I hope its closer than 6 months for a bit of polititan bashing lol | |||
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"There are many studies show the vaccines have negative efficacy after 5 months. And just to add, none of the vaccines even stop you from getting the disease lol. That must be some kind of first in clown world." No vaccine has ever stopped you succumbing to the disease, never built to do so. | |||
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"There are many studies show the vaccines have negative efficacy after 5 months. And just to add, none of the vaccines even stop you from getting the disease lol. That must be some kind of first in clown world. No vaccine has ever stopped you succumbing to the disease, never built to do so. " Really? hepatitis vaccine stops you getting it same with yellow fever, measles, rubella, pretty much every true vaccine except the "flu" inoculation and the "covid" inoculation because it doesn't work they changed the definition of a vaccine. | |||
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"Is it peer reviewed? Have these facts been taken into account?: 1. How many people in the world/UK (whatever this study was studying) have already had asymptomatic covid and had anti bodies. To find out this information every single person who never tested positive and never had any symptoms would have had to take an antibody test. As far as I know those tests were only available to purchase privately at a hefty price of £60. 2. How many people out of all vaccinated people have been infected within the time frame of when the vaccine is effective: between 14 days and 3 months after vaccination. If they haven't been infected within that window or at all - they don't fall into the count. 3. Has anyone compared the percentage of non vaccinated people who only had mild symptoms and taken that percentage out of the count of vaccinated people? i.e. out of 100 unvaccinated people 50 had mild symptoms versus out of 100 vaccinated people 60 only had mild symptoms. That would mean vaccine only helped extra 10% of people to get a milder case. (Numbers are completely made up to give an example). 4. Has anyone compared vaccinated & unvaccinated people's who are classed as vulnerable lifestyles? I.e. person who works from home, only goes out to public social places 1/2 times a year is statistically less likely to get infected versus a person who deals with 100+ people, handles cash and loves socialising every other weekend. It is great to reduce any kind of suffering and/or death. It is great to see people celebrate feeling safer and having good health. I'm just not convinced by throwing out random large numbers without all bases covered... feels more like virtue signaling than anything else. We are still waiting on a single study to tell us how many people have been "saved" versus how many were "damaged" due to lockdowns. Missus " Wow. Got tired half way through. Must have finger ache | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated. I'm curious about this too. Let's see if we ever get a reply
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Reading this ones was ok.a second time to copy and paste so you dont have to read it im not about to do
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1. Not yet peer reviewed. 2. Is comparing ONE vaccine against those who already have had covid. And I quote:
People who received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine in January or February 2021 were 13 times more likely to get a breakthrough infection with the delta variant than unvaccinated people who had COVID-19 during the same period were to be reinfected. "Totally agree , people need to do some proper research as to what's going on its frightening what could happen, you won't find any of this on the bbc news.monk | |||
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"There are many studies show the vaccines have negative efficacy after 5 months. And just to add, none of the vaccines even stop you from getting the disease lol. That must be some kind of first in clown world. No vaccine has ever stopped you succumbing to the disease, never built to do so. Really? hepatitis vaccine stops you getting it same with yellow fever, measles, rubella, pretty much every true vaccine except the "flu" inoculation and the "covid" inoculation because it doesn't work they changed the definition of a vaccine. " None of those vaccines are 100% effective against stopping you catching those diseases and no they didn't change the definition of a vaccine. So everything in your post is simply not true. | |||
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"Try the Israel study of 2.5 million people that resulted in that you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid then unvaccinated people That nature resistance is as good if not better than having the jabs but most see to close there eyes to it as it dont fit the narrative Please quote the part of the study which you claim states you are 18% more likely to catch and transmit covid if vaccinated. I'm curious about this too. Let's see if we ever get a reply
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1. Not yet peer reviewed. 2. Is comparing ONE vaccine against those who already have had covid. And I quote:
People who received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine in January or February 2021 were 13 times more likely to get a breakthrough infection with the delta variant than unvaccinated people who had COVID-19 during the same period were to be reinfected. "Exactly, it's comparing likelihood of a vaccinated person getting a breakthrough infection of the delta strain, vs someone who has previously been infected with delta and has some natural immunity from a previous infection. Of course, someone with natural immunity against the delta strain will have less chance of breakthrough infection as the current vaccines do not target delta (though still more effective than no vaccine). Natural immunity wades quickly however. What the study does NOT say is that the vaccine makes you more likely to catch covid. I can't believe some on here lack basic reading comprehension skills. | |||
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"The single fact that vaccinated people can still catch covid , means that it is not a vaccine . A vaccine immunises you against infection . These mRNA injections don’t do that . They do a few other things which I’m not going into , you’ll find out soon enough " All the covid vaccines are vaccines your definition is incorrect. Not all the covid are basedon mRNA technology either. Plus what are scared of mRNA your body is busy making loads of the stuff all the time. | |||
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"The single fact that vaccinated people can still catch covid , means that it is not a vaccine . A vaccine immunises you against infection . These mRNA injections don’t do that . They do a few other things which I’m not going into , you’ll find out soon enough " That's a cop out - you believe in something but won't elaborate/back it up. | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain.
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Shiny side outwards if you want to reflect the rays they are projecting into your brain, but shiny side inwards if you want to prevent them monitoring your thoughts. For best effect you need two layers back to back, it's the only way to both prevent being mind controlled and stop them eavesdropping on your thoughts."So what we're saying here is basically double tinned for extra protection.......
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"You honestly believe this? You honestly don't ?? Believe? When you watch a zombie film who do you think Hollywood is taking the piss out of? "You wouldn't believe how many people believe Eastenders, Coronation St are real life. Actors claim of being threatened and receiving hate mail. COVID is responsible for a lot of brain frying. Think I'm going to build myself a Faraday cage. | |||
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"Is it peer reviewed? Have these facts been taken into account?: 1. How many people in the world/UK (whatever this study was studying) have already had asymptomatic covid and had anti bodies. To find out this information every single person who never tested positive and never had any symptoms would have had to take an antibody test. As far as I know those tests were only available to purchase privately at a hefty price of £60. 2. How many people out of all vaccinated people have been infected within the time frame of when the vaccine is effective: between 14 days and 3 months after vaccination. If they haven't been infected within that window or at all - they don't fall into the count. 3. Has anyone compared the percentage of non vaccinated people who only had mild symptoms and taken that percentage out of the count of vaccinated people? i.e. out of 100 unvaccinated people 50 had mild symptoms versus out of 100 vaccinated people 60 only had mild symptoms. That would mean vaccine only helped extra 10% of people to get a milder case. (Numbers are completely made up to give an example). 4. Has anyone compared vaccinated & unvaccinated people's who are classed as vulnerable lifestyles? I.e. person who works from home, only goes out to public social places 1/2 times a year is statistically less likely to get infected versus a person who deals with 100+ people, handles cash and loves socialising every other weekend. It is great to reduce any kind of suffering and/or death. It is great to see people celebrate feeling safer and having good health. I'm just not convinced by throwing out random large numbers without all bases covered... feels more like virtue signaling than anything else. We are still waiting on a single study to tell us how many people have been "saved" versus how many were "damaged" due to lockdowns. Missus " The first intelectually coherent response I have seen. You are to be congratulated Missus. | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain.
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Shiny side outwards if you want to reflect the rays they are projecting into your brain, but shiny side inwards if you want to prevent them monitoring your thoughts. For best effect you need two layers back to back, it's the only way to both prevent being mind controlled and stop them eavesdropping on your thoughts.
So what we're saying here is basically double tinned for extra protection.......
Keep double tinning everyone, you're all doubling my share value.
Winston "But whatever you do, don't put the shiny sides together. If you've got both dull sides showing, not only won't it give no protection either direction, but waves getting between the layers can build up in a dangerous resonance. It's not about how much you've got, it all depends what you do with it... | |||
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"Tinfoil shares going long..... Get in quick. #bull market Winston • Don't forget Winston: it's the Dull side of the kitchen foil that doesn't stick; the shiny side will fry your brain.
Dammit!!!!!!
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Shiny side outwards if you want to reflect the rays they are projecting into your brain, but shiny side inwards if you want to prevent them monitoring your thoughts. For best effect you need two layers back to back, it's the only way to both prevent being mind controlled and stop them eavesdropping on your thoughts.
So what we're saying here is basically double tinned for extra protection.......
Keep double tinning everyone, you're all doubling my share value.
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But whatever you do, don't put the shiny sides together. If you've got both dull sides showing, not only won't it give no protection either direction, but waves getting between the layers can build up in a dangerous resonance. It's not about how much you've got, it all depends what you do with it..."So the Aussies and their tinnies were right all along ... | |||
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"Is it peer reviewed? Have these facts been taken into account?: 1. How many people in the world/UK (whatever this study was studying) have already had asymptomatic covid and had anti bodies. To find out this information every single person who never tested positive and never had any symptoms would have had to take an antibody test. As far as I know those tests were only available to purchase privately at a hefty price of £60. 2. How many people out of all vaccinated people have been infected within the time frame of when the vaccine is effective: between 14 days and 3 months after vaccination. If they haven't been infected within that window or at all - they don't fall into the count. 3. Has anyone compared the percentage of non vaccinated people who only had mild symptoms and taken that percentage out of the count of vaccinated people? i.e. out of 100 unvaccinated people 50 had mild symptoms versus out of 100 vaccinated people 60 only had mild symptoms. That would mean vaccine only helped extra 10% of people to get a milder case. (Numbers are completely made up to give an example). 4. Has anyone compared vaccinated & unvaccinated people's who are classed as vulnerable lifestyles? I.e. person who works from home, only goes out to public social places 1/2 times a year is statistically less likely to get infected versus a person who deals with 100+ people, handles cash and loves socialising every other weekend. It is great to reduce any kind of suffering and/or death. It is great to see people celebrate feeling safer and having good health. I'm just not convinced by throwing out random large numbers without all bases covered... feels more like virtue signaling than anything else. We are still waiting on a single study to tell us how many people have been "saved" versus how many were "damaged" due to lockdowns. Missus The first intelectually coherent response I have seen. You are to be congratulated Missus." | |||
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"Many people weren’t vaccinated in the first 12 months. I’m not sure how you even measure 20 Million survivors when many with covid were not reported. Polio and tuberculosis vaccines have been extremely effective in almost eradicating them. The covid vaccine lasts for a few months and then you need a booster. It must be one of the least effective vaccines produced. Wonder how much these companies are making from it. " "least effective vaccines produced" And yet the many vaccines were developed and produced by the billions, in less than a year, with tens of millions of lives saved, many millions more got milder infections, instead of more greatly severe. Not to mention that countries managed to reopen more quickly, health services were spared the significantly greater overloads that they would have had, etc. When something is urgent, there's a crisis etc, moving with the best that's available is wiser than letting life go down the pan for more. | |||
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"How many were killed via the vaccine this figure will never be available because a cover up yet a person has took legal proceedings and won damages and it's the first case of someone to win....." Yawn. And the evidence of a cover up is ...? | |||
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"How many were killed via the vaccine this figure will never be available because a cover up yet a person has took legal proceedings and won damages and it's the first case of someone to win..... Yawn. And the evidence of a cover up is ...?" Wake up.... The Evidence is all over YouTube, you can watch literally dozens of videos of "experts" demonstrating Pseudo science and telling you unsubstantiated numbers without any mention of where those numbers were sourced. Ultimately though, it's well known that everything is Bill Gates's fault. | |||
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"How many were killed via the vaccine this figure will never be available because a cover up yet a person has took legal proceedings and won damages and it's the first case of someone to win..... Yawn. And the evidence of a cover up is ...? Wake up.... The Evidence is all over YouTube, you can watch literally dozens of videos of "experts" demonstrating Pseudo science and telling you unsubstantiated numbers without any mention of where those numbers were sourced. Ultimately though, it's well known that everything is Bill Gates's fault. "You mean all that stuff I watch in the wee small hours on YouTube whilst in my four day old underpants isn’t true? Damn, i may have to have a shower….. | |||
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"How many were killed via the vaccine this figure will never be available because a cover up yet a person has took legal proceedings and won damages and it's the first case of someone to win..... Yawn. And the evidence of a cover up is ...? Wake up.... The Evidence is all over YouTube, you can watch literally dozens of videos of "experts" demonstrating Pseudo science and telling you unsubstantiated numbers without any mention of where those numbers were sourced. Ultimately though, it's well known that everything is Bill Gates's fault. "Do your own research. If you come to agree with me then that's great. If you find other sources then you haven't been researching, you've been brainwashing by the illuminati. And I'll scream my head off at every opportunity about how silenced I am. Behold, the deafening sound of utter silence, wailing, hollering. So silent. So oppressed. | |||
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"If the vaccine is so good ..but only lasts a few months with numbers riseing ...why are we not all getting boosters .. do they wait for deaths to rise to scare people intoo getting a booster ..." Vaccines don't grow on trees | |||
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"Many people weren’t vaccinated in the first 12 months. I’m not sure how you even measure 20 Million survivors when many with covid were not reported. Polio and tuberculosis vaccines have been extremely effective in almost eradicating them. The covid vaccine lasts for a few months and then you need a booster. It must be one of the least effective vaccines produced. Wonder how much these companies are making from it. "least effective vaccines produced" And yet the many vaccines were developed and produced by the billions, in less than a year, with tens of millions of lives saved, many millions more got milder infections, instead of more greatly severe. Not to mention that countries managed to reopen more quickly, health services were spared the significantly greater overloads that they would have had, etc. When something is urgent, there's a crisis etc, moving with the best that's available is wiser than letting life go down the pan for more. " Unless you have access to a parallel universe there’s no proof that the vaccinated were more or less sick than they could have been,ever single person I know that is unvaccinated gar covid once, yet all the people in know that have been vaccinated have had covid multiple times,could be a coincidence could be that the vaccine destroyed natural immunity | |||
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"I just read Watson et al. (2022). First, it's a peer-reviewed ISI paper published in the Lancet, possibly the international standard for medical research journals. Second, the modelling approach is sound, to summarise simply, they fitted a model of virus propagation with vaccine delivery built-in, to match known covid deaths, then ran the fitted model with the vaccine delivery switched off (no vaccine). The difference is the estimated number of lives saved. Very common and proved way of using modelling to investigate the effect of something (here the effdct of vaccinating). Even if your model is a bit off, eg the modelled number of covid deaths is off by 2 millions, the estimates with and without vaccine are more likely than not to be off by similar amounts thus giving a believable difference. To address the known issue of differing reporting of covid deaths worlwide, they did one model using official Covid deaths, giving a 15 millions estimated lives saved, and one using all-cause excess deaths, giving 20 millions lives saved. Now, you can indeed "do your own research", start by doing a PhD and feel free to publish in peer-reviewed journal." It was openly admitted that the uk deaths from covid were rather low and the deaths with covid were rather high, suicide with a cought could have been the covid, while think was a lie from start to finish, | |||
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"I just read Watson et al. (2022). First, it's a peer-reviewed ISI paper published in the Lancet, possibly the international standard for medical research journals. Second, the modelling approach is sound, to summarise simply, they fitted a model of virus propagation with vaccine delivery built-in, to match known covid deaths, then ran the fitted model with the vaccine delivery switched off (no vaccine). The difference is the estimated number of lives saved. Very common and proved way of using modelling to investigate the effect of something (here the effdct of vaccinating). Even if your model is a bit off, eg the modelled number of covid deaths is off by 2 millions, the estimates with and without vaccine are more likely than not to be off by similar amounts thus giving a believable difference. To address the known issue of differing reporting of covid deaths worlwide, they did one model using official Covid deaths, giving a 15 millions estimated lives saved, and one using all-cause excess deaths, giving 20 millions lives saved. Now, you can indeed "do your own research", start by doing a PhD and feel free to publish in peer-reviewed journal." PhD sounds good an' all, but a few hours on YouTube is probably equivalent  | |||
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"I just read Watson et al. (2022). First, it's a peer-reviewed ISI paper published in the Lancet, possibly the international standard for medical research journals. Second, the modelling approach is sound, to summarise simply, they fitted a model of virus propagation with vaccine delivery built-in, to match known covid deaths, then ran the fitted model with the vaccine delivery switched off (no vaccine). The difference is the estimated number of lives saved. Very common and proved way of using modelling to investigate the effect of something (here the effdct of vaccinating). Even if your model is a bit off, eg the modelled number of covid deaths is off by 2 millions, the estimates with and without vaccine are more likely than not to be off by similar amounts thus giving a believable difference. To address the known issue of differing reporting of covid deaths worlwide, they did one model using official Covid deaths, giving a 15 millions estimated lives saved, and one using all-cause excess deaths, giving 20 millions lives saved. Now, you can indeed "do your own research", start by doing a PhD and feel free to publish in peer-reviewed journal. PhD sounds good an' all, but a few hours on YouTube is probably equivalent " | |||
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"I just read Watson et al. (2022). First, it's a peer-reviewed ISI paper published in the Lancet, possibly the international standard for medical research journals. Second, the modelling approach is sound, to summarise simply, they fitted a model of virus propagation with vaccine delivery built-in, to match known covid deaths, then ran the fitted model with the vaccine delivery switched off (no vaccine). The difference is the estimated number of lives saved. Very common and proved way of using modelling to investigate the effect of something (here the effdct of vaccinating). Even if your model is a bit off, eg the modelled number of covid deaths is off by 2 millions, the estimates with and without vaccine are more likely than not to be off by similar amounts thus giving a believable difference. To address the known issue of differing reporting of covid deaths worlwide, they did one model using official Covid deaths, giving a 15 millions estimated lives saved, and one using all-cause excess deaths, giving 20 millions lives saved. Now, you can indeed "do your own research", start by doing a PhD and feel free to publish in peer-reviewed journal. PhD sounds good an' all, but a few hours on YouTube is probably equivalent
"I watched Andy Slavitt former Senior Advisor to Joe Biden Administration - Covid Response Team in a teleconference with Dr Michael Olsterholm on his Youtube channel. | |||
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"I just read Watson et al. (2022). First, it's a peer-reviewed ISI paper published in the Lancet, possibly the international standard for medical research journals. Second, the modelling approach is sound, to summarise simply, they fitted a model of virus propagation with vaccine delivery built-in, to match known covid deaths, then ran the fitted model with the vaccine delivery switched off (no vaccine). The difference is the estimated number of lives saved. Very common and proved way of using modelling to investigate the effect of something (here the effdct of vaccinating). Even if your model is a bit off, eg the modelled number of covid deaths is off by 2 millions, the estimates with and without vaccine are more likely than not to be off by similar amounts thus giving a believable difference. To address the known issue of differing reporting of covid deaths worlwide, they did one model using official Covid deaths, giving a 15 millions estimated lives saved, and one using all-cause excess deaths, giving 20 millions lives saved. Now, you can indeed "do your own research", start by doing a PhD and feel free to publish in peer-reviewed journal. PhD sounds good an' all, but a few hours on YouTube is probably equivalent
I watched Andy Slavitt former Senior Advisor to Joe Biden Administration - Covid Response Team in a teleconference with Dr Michael Olsterholm on his Youtube channel.
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"It’s not a cop out . I’ve been trying to explain it to people for a long time now . I’m past caring . I and the people I care about aren’t going near them . You do as you please . " Go on then, explain it here….. | |||
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"No thanks " While you present a compelling argument, I'm slightly swayed by the published and qualified virologists with years of education and research, with similarly qualified colleagues to review their work and repeat their tests. | |||
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"No thanks While you present a compelling argument, I'm slightly swayed by the published and qualified virologists with years of education and research, with similarly qualified colleagues to review their work and repeat their tests."
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"The hero worship of those who say things that confirm what we choose to believe and the derision of anyone or any opinion that challenges those beliefs and then the "reasoning" given for that derision are quite hypocritical in many cases. "believe the Internet unless it's something I don't believe in.. Then laugh at them those silly Internet believers.. Oh and insult them just for good measure too" " Can you give this some context? | |||
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"And that’s exactly why , it’s just met with sarcasm and derision . Let’s put it this way , all of these injections were given under emergency authorisation use . Which means there is no health and safety data to fall back on . Whoever has taken them , is part of an experiment . In 5 years we will have the data to say whether they’re safe or not . " I agree that the testing period has not been subject to the same as most clinical trials, and that is not a preferable scenario, but research supports that it has prevented serious complications and death in a lot of people that would have otherwise suffered these immediate effects. | |||
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"And over 48, 000 so far dropped dead from the experimental jabb up till beginning of May " Source please. | |||
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"How many of us here are qualified to even understand a report like this and question the hypothesis of experts in their field? Very few if any I imagine, including myself. That's why reports such as these are peer reviewed and understood by similar experts that it is based on modelled data. I would also imaging that there is some account for variation and bias. What is dangerous is when people form very emotional opinions based off anecdotal evidence (my mate down the pub said his mum had a jab etc) and intentionally misinformed opinions of those with an agenda i.e. drinking bleach when Trump suggested it might work! I agree that of course people are free to have an opinion, but not all opinions are of equal value." Nail on the head there. Opinions are just that, opinions. Research completed by non qualified folks is not research, it's just looking up random stuff on the Internet to back up their opinion, that's bias reinforcement. Basically, if you read it on a social media site, a sex site, it's just pub talk. Good fun though. If you want medical advice, speak initially to your GP. If you want legal advice, speak to a solicitor. If you want advice on roof repairs, speak to a qualified roofer. See how a pattern is emerging. | |||
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"And over 48, 000 so far dropped dead from the experimental jabb up till beginning of May Source please." Her mate down the pub heard a man on the tube say that he'd read it on a toilet wall. #credible | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. " I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave "I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come. | |||
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"How many of us here are qualified to even understand a report like this and question the hypothesis of experts in their field? Very few if any I imagine, including myself. That's why reports such as these are peer reviewed and understood by similar experts that it is based on modelled data. I would also imaging that there is some account for variation and bias. What is dangerous is when people form very emotional opinions based off anecdotal evidence (my mate down the pub said his mum had a jab etc) and intentionally misinformed opinions of those with an agenda i.e. drinking bleach when Trump suggested it might work! I agree that of course people are free to have an opinion, but not all opinions are of equal value. Nail on the head there. Opinions are just that, opinions. Research completed by non qualified folks is not research, it's just looking up random stuff on the Internet to back up their opinion, that's bias reinforcement. Basically, if you read it on a social media site, a sex site, it's just pub talk. Good fun though. If you want medical advice, speak initially to your GP. If you want legal advice, speak to a solicitor. If you want advice on roof repairs, speak to a qualified roofer. See how a pattern is emerging. "What? With all the professionals on here? | |||
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"And over 48, 000 so far dropped dead from the experimental jabb up till beginning of May Source please. Her mate down the pub heard a man on the tube say that he'd read it on a toilet wall. #credible " I certainly couldn't find it on the ONS. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come. "Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol"It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark. "So if I don't agree with him I don't have any critical capacity? Lol. That just sounds like thinly veiled "become a disciple of my particular brand of belief". Or, if I don't become your style of sheep, I'm not really able to think for myself? Lol | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark. "Russell Brand is your source? The floppy haired swordsman? FFS.
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
Russell Brand is your source?
The floppy haired swordsman?
FFS.
Winston "I really don't care if it's David Attenborough tbh, or pick anyone you believe to be super credible. "If you're capable of independent thinking you'll agree with this person". Umm. No. That's not how anything works unless you're a blind follower who doesn't understand what critical thinking means. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
So if I don't agree with him I don't have any critical capacity?
Lol. That just sounds like thinly veiled "become a disciple of my particular brand of belief". Or, if I don't become your style of sheep, I'm not really able to think for myself? Lol"Yeh no, that's not what I said. Your rush to mock and claim another's opinion as invalid through sarcasm etc indicates you're inability to listen and think critically to the discussion. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
Russell Brand is your source?
The floppy haired swordsman?
FFS.
Winston "Yes. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
So if I don't agree with him I don't have any critical capacity?
Lol. That just sounds like thinly veiled "become a disciple of my particular brand of belief". Or, if I don't become your style of sheep, I'm not really able to think for myself? Lol
Yeh no, that's not what I said. Your rush to mock and claim another's opinion as invalid through sarcasm etc indicates you're inability to listen and think critically to the discussion. "Ok. I'll give your view of me the time, attention, and respect it deserves. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
Russell Brand is your source?
The floppy haired swordsman?
FFS.
Winston
I really don't care if it's David Attenborough tbh, or pick anyone you believe to be super credible.
"If you're capable of independent thinking you'll agree with this person".
Umm. No. That's not how anything works unless you're a blind follower who doesn't understand what critical thinking means."Once again that's really not what I said, you are changing my words to fit your bias so you don't have to think about another pov, thus limiting your thinking. | |||
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"You honestly believe this? " Same here, you can’t believe a word of these so called studies. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
Russell Brand is your source?
The floppy haired swordsman?
FFS.
Winston
I really don't care if it's David Attenborough tbh, or pick anyone you believe to be super credible.
"If you're capable of independent thinking you'll agree with this person".
Umm. No. That's not how anything works unless you're a blind follower who doesn't understand what critical thinking means.
Once again that's really not what I said, you are changing my words to fit your bias so you don't have to think about another pov, thus limiting your thinking. "Again, I'll treat your perspective with the seriousness I believe it deserves. There is certainly much to be examined about public health responses, community upset, and long term sequelae, and I'm doing so. Thank you for your concern about my world view, but I'm all good, thanks | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
Russell Brand is your source?
The floppy haired swordsman?
FFS.
Winston
I really don't care if it's David Attenborough tbh, or pick anyone you believe to be super credible.
"If you're capable of independent thinking you'll agree with this person".
Umm. No. That's not how anything works unless you're a blind follower who doesn't understand what critical thinking means.
Once again that's really not what I said, you are changing my words to fit your bias so you don't have to think about another pov, thus limiting your thinking.
Again, I'll treat your perspective with the seriousness I believe it deserves. There is certainly much to be examined about public health responses, community upset, and long term sequelae, and I'm doing so.
Thank you for your concern about my world view, but I'm all good, thanks "Your previous replies indicate you don't have seriousness for it, and are taking personally when really ought not to. But yeh, bacon sarnie and coffee awaits me. | |||
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"The damage caused by the over reaction to the virus will far outdo any positive effect of the vaccine. And not just in lives lost either. I predicted that in five years this will have aged like fine milk in a Mediterranean heatwave
I sincerely hope you're right... Though hope does nothing when you can see what's happened, what's happening and what's yet to come.
Oh? Do tell how you know what's coming. Lol
It's ok, there's no point trying to explain it all in a post on a thread buried in a swinger website forum. I'll just say that I severally recommend you watch a few of Russel brands videos about it all on his YouTube channel... Yes the legacy media have now 'branded' him a conspiracy theorist, but if you have any critical thoughts left, that should tell you he's on the mark.
Russell Brand is your source?
The floppy haired swordsman?
FFS.
Winston
I really don't care if it's David Attenborough tbh, or pick anyone you believe to be super credible.
"If you're capable of independent thinking you'll agree with this person".
Umm. No. That's not how anything works unless you're a blind follower who doesn't understand what critical thinking means.
Once again that's really not what I said, you are changing my words to fit your bias so you don't have to think about another pov, thus limiting your thinking.
Again, I'll treat your perspective with the seriousness I believe it deserves. There is certainly much to be examined about public health responses, community upset, and long term sequelae, and I'm doing so.
Thank you for your concern about my world view, but I'm all good, thanks
Your previous replies indicate you don't have seriousness for it, and are taking personally when really ought not to. But yeh, bacon sarnie and coffee awaits me. "Enjoy. I'm sorry you mistake agreement with your position as seriousness. Unfortunately the lockdowns are icky hypothesis (with or without vaccine holocaust and/or "the people who died deserve it and their deaths are less valuable than my hurt fee fees and/or ooga booga China) rather makes "Mummy I did a poppy in my potty" look like a doctoral dissertation. (Or it's about as clever as the member of the UKHSA who made the assertion that Covid induced paediatric hepatitis was one in 100k. At that point a few weeks ago, that would have put the number of kids in the UK at 24 million )
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