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"is asking a party for better lighting really directing.............i think the moderators ought to have some type of intelligence and training. if a phone canvasseur asks a question about wether your windows are adequate, is this an obscene phone call. "the short answer is yes as far as the rules go asking for any thing in chat is counted as directing. really its no differern`t to asking to move the camera or show better  | |||
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"i was led to believe that "asking" is different from telling. surely "telling" is directing and "asking" is not for instance (asking) "would it be possible for you to put the light on so we can see you better" (telling) "hey baby put your light on so i can see your tits" no your not telling me there is no significant difference here?" http://www.fabswingers.com/webchat/rules 4.You may not direct people on cam to do something in particular, apart from in the Directing Room which is for people who want comments and to be told what to do. To be clear, directing can include suggesting or asking e.g. "could I see your tits?" is considered directing just as "show us your tits" is. | |||
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"i was led to believe that "asking" is different from telling. surely "telling" is directing and "asking" is not for instance (asking) "would it be possible for you to put the light on so we can see you better" (telling) "hey baby put your light on so i can see your tits" no your not telling me there is no significant difference here? http://www.fabswingers.com/webchat/rules 4.You may not direct people on cam to do something in particular, apart from in the Directing Room which is for people who want comments and to be told what to do. To be clear, directing can include suggesting or asking e.g. "could I see your tits?" is considered directing just as "show us your tits" is." But surely - a) 'go to the directing room' or b) 'could you please go to the directing room?' - is in itself a form of directing? (If you want to be pedantic) I used to be a mod on another site, and a little bit of logic helps, because people do get caught up in the moment, or simply forget the rules - one warning is fair, as a gentle reminder, and if they persist, its a ban. The rules (and rooms) are there to help you enjoy the experience  | |||
I agree with you though, the mods are there to help you enjoy the chat and mostly thats what will happen.
Most of the time mods will give a reminder ( I think thats a better word than warning ) that it is a no directing room before they ban but to be fair, you can't give a reminder to every person directing if lots are at once and there are a lot of people who ignore that too.
There are then those who direct knowing they might get a reminder first before a ban.
I am guessing you have probably gathered all that you being a mod elsewhere....either way, if people don't direct/ask or suggest in a no directing room they won't be banned at all.
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"there are 5 rooms dedicated to directors, if you want to suggest things to people then they are the places to go, the general chat rooms are supposed to be a safe haven where you aren't hassled, or maybe I am wrong???, xxx "well said ruby chat rooms is just that CHATTING asking/enticing/telling is for directing rooms which there are aplenty on here lol | |||
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"Chicken and egg isnt it....if they are for Chatting....then why have cams there with people flashing their bits, why dont they simply use directing rooms too...." Because some people prefer to show things at their own pace and in their own time. I can't stand people trying to direct me on cam, hence I don't go in the directing rooms. If people are new or shy, constant requests to show more than you're comfortable with can make people feel pressured and/or inadequate, which is why I will often report or tell people off myself if I see someone is being harassed in a non-directing room. - You often find it's why a lot of women won't go on cam and then you get the usual culprits moaning when it's a sausage fest. x | |||
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"Directing isn't just about getting someone to do something rude imo." Agreed. x | |||
"In my opinion, asking for better lighting IS directing as why else would you want more light? To be able to see more of the person/s on cam. As a chat mod, I have banned people for their continued request for people to watch their cams. It interrupts the room when they continually repeat themselves. Yes, i'm probably guilty of misinterpreting the rules but we are only human after all. As long as admin believe i'm doing a decent job then that's good enough for me. If I wasn't them I'm sure I would hear from them, or at worst lose my *." now im seriously confused, on a seperate thread you wrote and i quote ""look at my cam" isn't directing. Directing is classed as asking someone to do or show something on cam. so ASKING for better lighting is directing but TELLING someone to view your cam isnt? Look mods, It may seem like we have a beef with you all but we dont, seriously we think you do a stirling job in the circumstances, but its those circumstances that need addressing in our opinion. 1 minute the rules are black and white, the next they are open to interpretations, 1 minute the mods will apply the rules, the next they will warn. Surely the amount of threads started on this subject is atleast enough for you all to have a conversation regarding wording or interpretations a little better. no offence intended at all just very frustrated. | |||
"In my opinion, asking for better lighting IS directing as why else would you want more light? To be able to see more of the person/s on cam. As a chat mod, I have banned people for their continued request for people to watch their cams. It interrupts the room when they continually repeat themselves. Yes, i'm probably guilty of misinterpreting the rules but we are only human after all. As long as admin believe i'm doing a decent job then that's good enough for me. If I wasn't them I'm sure I would hear from them, or at worst lose my *. now im seriously confused, on a seperate thread you wrote and i quote ""look at my cam" isn't directing. Directing is classed as asking someone to do or show something on cam. so ASKING for better lighting is directing but TELLING someone to view your cam isnt? Look mods, It may seem like we have a beef with you all but we dont, seriously we think you do a stirling job in the circumstances, but its those circumstances that need addressing in our opinion. 1 minute the rules are black and white, the next they are open to interpretations, 1 minute the mods will apply the rules, the next they will warn. Surely the amount of threads started on this subject is atleast enough for you all to have a conversation regarding wording or interpretations a little better. no offence intended at all just very frustrated. " Yes, it does look like you have a beef with mods….yes there a lot of threads about it… does dragging up an old thread to put forward your point just seem a tad OTT? Anyway, mods go by the guidance given to them by the site owners. The mods have their own forum where questions can be asked when they are unsure and other mods can assist or get a final answer from the site owners. The directing rules are quite clear IMO. If, and only IF someone is on cam, and someone asks them to do something on cam, which could include (but not limited to) moving themselves, removing clothing, moving the cam to a new position, flashing bits of their body, it is all directing and will lead to a ban. Asking someone to view a cam is NOT directing. Desperate yes, against the rules NO. However, like any action in the room, if it becomes disruptive, mods like myself will ban (after guiding the user in question). When people are banned for this, they are not banned under the 'directing' remit, they are banned under the 'mods descretion' "Any other behaviour which a moderator believes to be disruptive, offensive or otherwise inappropriate for this site." You complain about mods understanding of the rules but you dont seem to understand them yourselves. As I said before, its better if you direct all your issues to the Admin/Site owners as they are the ones that ultimately set the rules that the mods do their best to adhere too. Take Care Steve | |||
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