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By *isterBrum OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham

In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?"

We used to frequent Xtasia regularly and they had this policy way back. To us it worked a treat and we generally only ever met single guys and the occasional couple.

What would you prefer? Because in all the clubs I've visited (and that's a lot) where there were no restrictions you had groups of random single guys crowding playing couples hoping to get involved, following people around and generally just standing in the corners of rooms knocking one out. Which put off the very couples and singles they hoped to meet.

If a couple or single woman wants to chat, mingle or play with a single guy then they will. No amount of segregation will stol that and there are always mixed areas to socialise and chat in.

Dividing areas in clubs helps everyone - even if single guys don't see it. And having been to clubs on my own for years I'd much rather have not been fighting through groups of guys everywhere all clamouring for the attention of the same people. It doesn't help anyone.

A

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I went to a club in France that did this. I thought it a great concept.

I was in a couple at the time and we could walk around freely without being stalked, then when I wanted to play with a guy we simple went into the males area

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By *isterBrum OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

We used to frequent Xtasia regularly and they had this policy way back. To us it worked a treat and we generally only ever met single guys and the occasional couple.

What would you prefer? Because in all the clubs I've visited (and that's a lot) where there were no restrictions you had groups of random single guys crowding playing couples hoping to get involved, following people around and generally just standing in the corners of rooms knocking one out. Which put off the very couples and singles they hoped to meet.

If a couple or single woman wants to chat, mingle or play with a single guy then they will. No amount of segregation will stol that and there are always mixed areas to socialise and chat in.

Dividing areas in clubs helps everyone - even if single guys don't see it. And having been to clubs on my own for years I'd much rather have not been fighting through groups of guys everywhere all clamouring for the attention of the same people. It doesn't help anyone.

A

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Well as I said I do not frequent swingers events. And in kink events, at least the ones I have been to, there's no division like this. There are, of course, play areas and non-play areas, but the play areas are not closed off.

In fact, there are usually big windows allowing people to watch.

But the two cultures are very different. And talking to some people, people from the different groups do not seem to like the other much.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?"

it wouldnt work for me. I dont want areas that single guys cant go

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By *luebell888Woman  over a year ago

Glasgow

I go to clubs for single men. Not females or couples. I will be in the part of any club where the single men will be.

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

We used to frequent Xtasia regularly and they had this policy way back. To us it worked a treat and we generally only ever met single guys and the occasional couple.

What would you prefer? Because in all the clubs I've visited (and that's a lot) where there were no restrictions you had groups of random single guys crowding playing couples hoping to get involved, following people around and generally just standing in the corners of rooms knocking one out. Which put off the very couples and singles they hoped to meet.

If a couple or single woman wants to chat, mingle or play with a single guy then they will. No amount of segregation will stol that and there are always mixed areas to socialise and chat in.

Dividing areas in clubs helps everyone - even if single guys don't see it. And having been to clubs on my own for years I'd much rather have not been fighting through groups of guys everywhere all clamouring for the attention of the same people. It doesn't help anyone.

A

Well as I said I do not frequent swingers events. And in kink events, at least the ones I have been to, there's no division like this. There are, of course, play areas and non-play areas, but the play areas are not closed off.

In fact, there are usually big windows allowing people to watch.

But the two cultures are very different. And talking to some people, people from the different groups do not seem to like the other much."

I don't think it's the case that they don't like each other- it's just as you say two completely different cultures. Some are involved in both but the majority only one, so will have differing views and perhaps less of an understanding of how the other works.

So long as all groups are catered for then all is good.

It could be a lot worse. Have you ever seen how bi men are perceived by the majority when looking to play in clubs on straight nights? Nobody bats an eyelid at two women playing together and it's actively encouraged. But if two men did you'd think they'd just clubbed a baby seal to death in front of everyone given the general reaction.

A

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By *quaman87Man  over a year ago

ramsey

What have I missed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like being around single guys in clubs so long as they are respectful and always seek consent and handle rejection should it come.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?"

Seeing as you asked a question we will answer.

We would never ever want to meet a single guy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just on the basis of the thread title - me

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By *isterBrum OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

We used to frequent Xtasia regularly and they had this policy way back. To us it worked a treat and we generally only ever met single guys and the occasional couple.

What would you prefer? Because in all the clubs I've visited (and that's a lot) where there were no restrictions you had groups of random single guys crowding playing couples hoping to get involved, following people around and generally just standing in the corners of rooms knocking one out. Which put off the very couples and singles they hoped to meet.

If a couple or single woman wants to chat, mingle or play with a single guy then they will. No amount of segregation will stol that and there are always mixed areas to socialise and chat in.

Dividing areas in clubs helps everyone - even if single guys don't see it. And having been to clubs on my own for years I'd much rather have not been fighting through groups of guys everywhere all clamouring for the attention of the same people. It doesn't help anyone.

A

Well as I said I do not frequent swingers events. And in kink events, at least the ones I have been to, there's no division like this. There are, of course, play areas and non-play areas, but the play areas are not closed off.

In fact, there are usually big windows allowing people to watch.

But the two cultures are very different. And talking to some people, people from the different groups do not seem to like the other much.

I don't think it's the case that they don't like each other- it's just as you say two completely different cultures. Some are involved in both but the majority only one, so will have differing views and perhaps less of an understanding of how the other works.

So long as all groups are catered for then all is good.

It could be a lot worse. Have you ever seen how bi men are perceived by the majority when looking to play in clubs on straight nights? Nobody bats an eyelid at two women playing together and it's actively encouraged. But if two men did you'd think they'd just clubbed a baby seal to death in front of everyone given the general reaction.

A"

That is a very good point about bi men. I think there is still a stigma in society in general and in these two communities. A stigma that both communities should work on.

And maybe you're right that is more about misunderstandings than actual dislike. Though I have seen judgements on from both sides, and I have heard from staff at the clubs too.

I also find that the kink community seems to be welcoming to single guys, but that might be just from my limited view. But there does not seem to be a swingers munch.

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By *isterBrum OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong? it wouldnt work for me. I dont want areas that single guys cant go "

Could you share more on your opinion on not wanting areas where single guys can't go?

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By *isterBrum OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"What have I missed "

There is a club in the UK, I won't name it, that is undergoing changes.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Ultimately clubs will take whatever steps they think will work for them and their main clientele (which is usually couples) - some limit the number of single guys, some provide couples only spaces - guess as a single guy you have to ask does it detract from your enjoyment of the club and if so you have to decide whether to find another club.

In my experience the couples areas tend to be play areas anyway so you still get a chance to talk to people in the social area and then if all are agreeable find a suitable play area, so I don't really think it will detract at all

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By *hy_bangor_bi-girlWoman  over a year ago

Bangor

In America they use the colour coded wrist band concept based on your demands/needs which works really well. Single men can easily tell if you want to meet them so they can approach you. Surposed or isn't used more over here

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

We used to frequent Xtasia regularly and they had this policy way back. To us it worked a treat and we generally only ever met single guys and the occasional couple.

What would you prefer? Because in all the clubs I've visited (and that's a lot) where there were no restrictions you had groups of random single guys crowding playing couples hoping to get involved, following people around and generally just standing in the corners of rooms knocking one out. Which put off the very couples and singles they hoped to meet.

If a couple or single woman wants to chat, mingle or play with a single guy then they will. No amount of segregation will stol that and there are always mixed areas to socialise and chat in.

Dividing areas in clubs helps everyone - even if single guys don't see it. And having been to clubs on my own for years I'd much rather have not been fighting through groups of guys everywhere all clamouring for the attention of the same people. It doesn't help anyone.

A

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Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

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By *obandsue 69Couple  over a year ago

north Cornwall

Just to say some couples (us for one) actually look out single guys.

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By *atinocoupleCouple  over a year ago

SF, NY, London (in that order)

We've been lucky that most of our meets are at private parties and the few single guys have been great. One or two club events did feel like they needed a better protocol but we just left once it got too much

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By *ieutenantMan  over a year ago

london

Couples who subscribe to this kind of club segregation between males and couples are selfish minded or living untrustworthy relationship.Every swing clubs in the UK are very strict with single male.what else do you want?. After segregation then total ban next.Club Segregation will destroy clubs reputation.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"Couples who subscribe to this kind of club segregation between males and couples are selfish minded or living untrustworthy relationship.Every swing clubs in the UK are very strict with single male.what else do you want?. After segregation then total ban next.Club Segregation will destroy clubs reputation."

Unfortunately at least two clubs we know are nowhere near strict enough with single guys, as a previous poster has said, “some” wander around, stalk couples, stand too close while playing with themselves etc. And single guys behaving like that spoil it for the respectful others.

Maybe respectful single guys could step up more often and have a word with those few behaving badly. Wristbands might work, we don’t know of any club in the UK that has done that and the American swinger culture seems very different.

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By *xfordshireCoupleMFCouple  over a year ago

Nr. Oxford


"Just to say some couples (us for one) actually look out single guys."

We are the same, wouldn’t be on fab if it weren’t for the single men.

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By *irm hand LukeMan  over a year ago

Stamford in the Vale ish

Too many spoil it for the few unfortunately

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple  over a year ago

Hartlepool


"Couples who subscribe to this kind of club segregation between males and couples are selfish minded or living untrustworthy relationship.Every swing clubs in the UK are very strict with single male.what else do you want?. After segregation then total ban next.Club Segregation will destroy clubs reputation."

We meet and play with single guys.

And yet we totally understand why clubs do this. The issue isn't untrusting relationships or selfishness, the issue that leads to this is a number of single guys not playing by the rules.

We've heard more than once "cheaper than a brothel" uttered by single men. How many women have been touched and harassed, and it's mainly by single men?

Not every club is strict enough, and even those that are, have had issues with single guys.

No, it isn't all, and quite often is guys who have never even been on fab.. but it happening is still an issue.

As I said.. we actually play with single guys, so this doesn't come from selfishness or lack of interest, but I fully understand why clubs would do this.

Lots of clubs have couples only rooms, or couples (and women) nights.. this is just an extension of that.

Obviously we don't know the specifics of the layout, but I assume the club will do something that flows well and works.

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton

I am a single guy who is a member at OP4F in London.When I joined I was given a tour of the club and I noticed the the white lines on the floor.It was explained to me that as a single guy I could only cross the white line if invited by a single lady or a couple.To me that seems fair and straightforward to understand however some guys would occasionally cross the white line.Over the last year there is now a separate a room where single guys can’t enter unless invited by a single lady or a couple.To me the way OP4F do things seems to work and perhaps the fact that it’s a members only club makes guys think twice about crossing the white lines without been invited after all I wouldn’t want a single lady or a couple to say that I didn’t respect the white line rules and tried to join in.I wouldn’t want to find my membership cancelled because I didn’t respect the clubs rules , single ladies and couples.

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"I am a single guy who is a member at OP4F in London.When I joined I was given a tour of the club and I noticed the the white lines on the floor.It was explained to me that as a single guy I could only cross the white line if invited by a single lady or a couple.To me that seems fair and straightforward to understand however some guys would occasionally cross the white line.Over the last year there is now a separate a room where single guys can’t enter unless invited by a single lady or a couple.To me the way OP4F do things seems to work and perhaps the fact that it’s a members only club makes guys think twice about crossing the white lines without been invited after all I wouldn’t want a single lady or a couple to say that I didn’t respect the white line rules and tried to join in.I wouldn’t want to find my membership cancelled because I didn’t respect the clubs rules , single ladies and couples."

That sounds dreadful to me. Cattle market springs to mind.

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton


"I am a single guy who is a member at OP4F in London.When I joined I was given a tour of the club and I noticed the the white lines on the floor.It was explained to me that as a single guy I could only cross the white line if invited by a single lady or a couple.To me that seems fair and straightforward to understand however some guys would occasionally cross the white line.Over the last year there is now a separate a room where single guys can’t enter unless invited by a single lady or a couple.To me the way OP4F do things seems to work and perhaps the fact that it’s a members only club makes guys think twice about crossing the white lines without been invited after all I wouldn’t want a single lady or a couple to say that I didn’t respect the white line rules and tried to join in.I wouldn’t want to find my membership cancelled because I didn’t respect the clubs rules , single ladies and couples.

That sounds dreadful to me. Cattle market springs to mind. "

. The guys are generally well behaved.I think a white line rule is a good that way you know to respect people’s boundaries.If someone wants you to join in I am sure they will ask or you can always ask yourself.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

I am a bit uncomfortable with a segregating men to one part of the club. If I were a guy, it would feel like I was in a holding pen, awaiting the attention of the coveted couple or lady who is looking for a guy. I always try and put myself in other peoples shoes and I would feel like a second rate citizen if I was segregated like this.

Instead, we have a couples only room. The rest of the club is open to everyone. We have couples only nights for those who don't want to mix with guys and restricted events where there are only a handful of guys. We also have events where everyone is welcome and we just control ratios. This works for us and the layout of our club. Maybe the club in question is bigger and the 'holding pen' is spacious and would work there. I just wouldn't want a whole area of a club where I couldn't step into because I was born with a cock.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

To answer your question, yes we play with selected guys (please don't message us and instead read our profile lol) and there are TONS of people on here looking for guys

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think there is a huge difference between having a "couples only play area" and a couples only "social area"....

if a social area you are just going to be social anyway, why would you feel the need to segregate? after all... you are just talking to people.......

what next... couples only smoking area?

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"i think there is a huge difference between having a "couples only play area" and a couples only "social area"....

if a social area you are just going to be social anyway, why would you feel the need to segregate? after all... you are just talking to people.......

what next... couples only smoking area?

"

I didn’t understand that from the OP - is that right, a couples only social area is being setup in the club the OP is referring to? That does sound weird if so.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS  over a year ago

doncaster

I can never understand why single men keep paying the highly inflated prices to go in these venues ,it seems to me that they are not really wanted there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can never understand why single men keep paying the highly inflated prices to go in these venues ,it seems to me that they are not really wanted there "
not true at all a certain amount of single guys are good for a clubs atmosphere just not to many

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By *hatawasteMan  over a year ago

stafford


"I am a single guy who is a member at OP4F in London.When I joined I was given a tour of the club and I noticed the the white lines on the floor.It was explained to me that as a single guy I could only cross the white line if invited by a single lady or a couple.To me that seems fair and straightforward to understand however some guys would occasionally cross the white line.Over the last year there is now a separate a room where single guys can’t enter unless invited by a single lady or a couple.To me the way OP4F do things seems to work and perhaps the fact that it’s a members only club makes guys think twice about crossing the white lines without been invited after all I wouldn’t want a single lady or a couple to say that I didn’t respect the white line rules and tried to join in.I wouldn’t want to find my membership cancelled because I didn’t respect the clubs rules , single ladies and couples."

Nope .. wouldnt want that . If you cant trust someone not to overstep a line ( which also seems a bit silly tbh ) then you probably shouldnt be in a club . It all sounds a bit too sanitized for me though . It is surely better to allow people to mix freely? Otherwise the single guys at the end of the night on the wrong side of the line are going to be feeling like they did when they arent picked for a side in a footy comp and likely wouldnt then return to the club again ..

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By *hezGeekCouple  over a year ago

Bristol

We now look out for ‘couples and single females only’ nights when we go to clubs for exactly the reasons mentioned above: too often when we’ve been to clubs the single guys have been rude and disrespectful of space. As a result we generally avoid nights that are likely to have a high single male population.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"I can never understand why single men keep paying the highly inflated prices to go in these venues ,it seems to me that they are not really wanted there not true at all a certain amount of single guys are good for a clubs atmosphere just not to many"

This echoes a comment on another thread, where the poster stated single guys in clubs are "a nice to have, but not a necessity", which says it all really

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can never understand why single men keep paying the highly inflated prices to go in these venues ,it seems to me that they are not really wanted there not true at all a certain amount of single guys are good for a clubs atmosphere just not to many

Personally we love single guys but 2 many in a club doesn't work handful of respectful gents is great

This echoes a comment on another thread, where the poster stated single guys in clubs are "a nice to have, but not a necessity", which says it all really "

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"I can never understand why single men keep paying the highly inflated prices to go in these venues ,it seems to me that they are not really wanted there not true at all a certain amount of single guys are good for a clubs atmosphere just not to many

This echoes a comment on another thread, where the poster stated single guys in clubs are "a nice to have, but not a necessity", which says it all really "

Yet we’ve seen well behaved respectful single guys have fantastic nights at clubs. But it does take a bit of effort, same as anyone else, being friendly, chatty, interesting etc. etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have attended our club many many times.

On party nights it is clearly stated and signposted no single guys in the play area unless invited by a couple.

That is the club rule.

Yet if the doorman moves away for five minutes almost every single guy fights to get through that door.

Then when he gets back single men actually argue with him because they cannot get in.

Not good behaviour.

Like it or not, the rules are the rules.

Hardly represents single guys well does it??

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton


"I am a single guy who is a member at OP4F in London.When I joined I was given a tour of the club and I noticed the the white lines on the floor.It was explained to me that as a single guy I could only cross the white line if invited by a single lady or a couple.To me that seems fair and straightforward to understand however some guys would occasionally cross the white line.Over the last year there is now a separate a room where single guys can’t enter unless invited by a single lady or a couple.To me the way OP4F do things seems to work and perhaps the fact that it’s a members only club makes guys think twice about crossing the white lines without been invited after all I wouldn’t want a single lady or a couple to say that I didn’t respect the white line rules and tried to join in.I wouldn’t want to find my membership cancelled because I didn’t respect the clubs rules , single ladies and couples.

Nope .. wouldnt want that . If you cant trust someone not to overstep a line ( which also seems a bit silly tbh ) then you probably shouldnt be in a club . It all sounds a bit too sanitized for me though . It is surely better to allow people to mix freely? Otherwise the single guys at the end of the night on the wrong side of the line are going to be feeling like they did when they arent picked for a side in a footy comp and likely wouldnt then return to the club again .. "

. You can mix freely it just respecting other people’s boundaries.I am sure some single ladies or couples don’t want a free for all

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By *isterBrum OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"i think there is a huge difference between having a "couples only play area" and a couples only "social area"....

if a social area you are just going to be social anyway, why would you feel the need to segregate? after all... you are just talking to people.......

what next... couples only smoking area?

I didn’t understand that from the OP - is that right, a couples only social area is being setup in the club the OP is referring to? That does sound weird if so.

"

This is only going from their description as this stuff to be implemented after their reopening after the lockdown.

However, whilst there have been couples only playrooms before, they are saying that they are expanding on this. So without seeing it in action, yes there will be couples only social areas.

To try and enforce this all men will have to wear wristbands to identify if they are single or in a couple.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester

What the club is doing is basically having two clubs at weekends as it's too big to fill so couples for couples have space and couples for single men - simples. Single men will be able to play out on a, Saturday night couples who want them will be voting by attendance

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By *kyblue1878Couple  over a year ago

Southport


"Couples who subscribe to this kind of club segregation between males and couples are selfish minded or living untrustworthy relationship.Every swing clubs in the UK are very strict with single male.what else do you want?. After segregation then total ban next.Club Segregation will destroy clubs reputation."

You don't get it. Most clubs are couples only and only have one night that single guys can enter. This gives couples a choice whether to bother attending that night or not. Maybe the club's make more money keeping it to couples only. Lot's of couples leave clubs if single guy's misbehave. Perhaps this segregation works for both parties, giving single guy's more evenings they can attend and the couples can play unhindered. Those looking for single guy's only have to walk through a door to find them (as do single ladies). It works very well at Cap d'Agde in the sauna clubs.

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By *essie.Woman  over a year ago

Serendipity


"We have attended our club many many times.

On party nights it is clearly stated and signposted no single guys in the play area unless invited by a couple.

That is the club rule.

Yet if the doorman moves away for five minutes almost every single guy fights to get through that door.

Then when he gets back single men actually argue with him because they cannot get in.

Not good behaviour.

Like it or not, the rules are the rules.

Hardly represents single guys well does it??"

I was playing with my gf at the time in a couples room, just us. This single guy came in uninvited and plonked his cock by my gfs face. I thought wtf and as he refused to leave I had to report him and he was asked to leave. I like single men, the majority do behave but too many touch without asking first. So this idea sounds good from this club.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"What the club is doing is basically having two clubs at weekends as it's too big to fill so couples for couples have space and couples for single men - simples. Single men will be able to play out on a, Saturday night couples who want them will be voting by attendance "

So is the club looking for a better ambience on a Saturday night, by introducing more single men in to the mix, or just looking to increase the takings?

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By *HaRiFMan  over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?"

Or they may end up no single guys attending. Personally speaking I go to the clubs were I’m made to feel welcomed not looked down on because of the actions of others who I don’t know or have had any influence over. This kind of thing wouldn’t make me feel very welcomed. They would be much better off having couples only nights rather than this kind of segregation. But that’s just my perspective other single guys might not agree with me and be perfectly fine with it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have just had some dick single guy message us saying no single guy would want to meet us anyway.

What a brainless knob. We don't want meet single guys anyway! !

Another stunning example of single guys hey!!

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?"

This is quite common in Spanish clubs and in most cases it seems to work well.

The bar and lounge areas are mixed and the play areas split into mixed and couples only.

In the clubs we visit in Spain it is rare to see the mixed area just full of guys. Many couples and single women are in there as well.

When we go to a club we hardly ever go into couples only areas. We much prefer to be in with the single guys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In America they use the colour coded wrist band concept based on your demands/needs which works really well. Single men can easily tell if you want to meet them so they can approach you. Surposed or isn't used more over here "

That’s a good idea, but I’m all restricted areas for couples and single ladies (although not social areas) and I’m also in favour of limits on how many of us single men are allowed in.

I’d like to think I’m one of the good guys, but I know it only takes one badly behaved single guy to ruin a night for someone

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"To answer your question, yes we play with selected guys (please don't message us and instead read our profile lol) and there are TONS of people on here looking for guys"

I’m guessing a lot didn’t make the second half of your comment and your mail box has around 100 messages

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?"

I wouldn't attend a club that had large areas that single males couldn't enter, couples and single females get their own night in most clubs, single men don't.

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By *tasiaCouple  over a year ago

West Bromwich

Going to jump in as this thread is a million miles off topic!

We posted a suggestion on our web site for regular club members to comment on whilst closed. The OP has taken a few lines from it and made his own personal question from it. It is a mile away from our suggestion, and now everyone is sounding off thinking it’s an attack on singles, when in fact it was totally the opposite.

We will post our own thread in due course for folks to comment on, but please, don’t all start thinking the anti single guy agenda is ours! It isn’t.

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Going to jump in as this thread is a million miles off topic!

We posted a suggestion on our web site for regular club members to comment on whilst closed. The OP has taken a few lines from it and made his own personal question from it. It is a mile away from our suggestion, and now everyone is sounding off thinking it’s an attack on singles, when in fact it was totally the opposite.

We will post our own thread in due course for folks to comment on, but please, don’t all start thinking the anti single guy agenda is ours! It isn’t. "

I hadn't even realised he was talking about you.

Been too long since we've been up but the old style of separation worked well for us and as a couple who happily played with single guys we had no issue with how it was before. Nothing prevented social interaction. Nothing stopped single guys joining others when invited. But it did stop the gawkers, constant unwanted interruptions of play, unwelcome hands and being followed around.

Yet there were always plenty of single guys getting invited to join others.

Plenty also didn't. But I suspect that's down to a combination of an inability to make the right approaches and their attitude and behaviour. Couples and single women looking for single guys will always seek them out regardless of any segregation rules. But - as always - they'll decide who is right for them.

If anything then any form of segregation gives those guys who understand the scene an improved chance of success rather than a disadvantage. They'll stand out far clearer than those that don't.

Whatever you do change wise to the club I doubt many commenting have your experience of running clubs so no doubt there'll be as much negative feedback to ideas as positive - it's always the way. Some don't like change full stop. But plenty will embrace it.

Good luck!

A

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"I can never understand why single men keep paying the highly inflated prices to go in these venues ,it seems to me that they are not really wanted there not true at all a certain amount of single guys are good for a clubs atmosphere just not to many

This echoes a comment on another thread, where the poster stated single guys in clubs are "a nice to have, but not a necessity", which says it all really

Yet we’ve seen well behaved respectful single guys have fantastic nights at clubs. But it does take a bit of effort, same as anyone else, being friendly, chatty, interesting etc. etc."

I've visited clubs as a couple 3 times, and had a great night every time. I've been 16 times (can't believe I'm writing this now) as a single guy, and been fortunate enough to be invited to play 3 times. The thing I notice most, when I'm on my own, is my ability to wander around unnoticed, and the way heads turn (away) when I look in someone's direction. It's completely different when I have a female friend with me, and yet, I'm the same person....

If I'm ever 'down South', I'll have a look at visiting one of your regular clubs. Nothing ventured, nothing gained....

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By *tasiaCouple  over a year ago

West Bromwich


"Going to jump in as this thread is a million miles off topic!

We posted a suggestion on our web site for regular club members to comment on whilst closed. The OP has taken a few lines from it and made his own personal question from it. It is a mile away from our suggestion, and now everyone is sounding off thinking it’s an attack on singles, when in fact it was totally the opposite.

We will post our own thread in due course for folks to comment on, but please, don’t all start thinking the anti single guy agenda is ours! It isn’t.

I hadn't even realised he was talking about you.

Been too long since we've been up but the old style of separation worked well for us and as a couple who happily played with single guys we had no issue with how it was before. Nothing prevented social interaction. Nothing stopped single guys joining others when invited. But it did stop the gawkers, constant unwanted interruptions of play, unwelcome hands and being followed around.

Yet there were always plenty of single guys getting invited to join others.

Plenty also didn't. But I suspect that's down to a combination of an inability to make the right approaches and their attitude and behaviour. Couples and single women looking for single guys will always seek them out regardless of any segregation rules. But - as always - they'll decide who is right for them.

If anything then any form of segregation gives those guys who understand the scene an improved chance of success rather than a disadvantage. They'll stand out far clearer than those that don't.

Whatever you do change wise to the club I doubt many commenting have your experience of running clubs so no doubt there'll be as much negative feedback to ideas as positive - it's always the way. Some don't like change full stop. But plenty will embrace it.

Good luck!

A"

Do miss you both

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester

Think the point everyone is missing s the club will be in essence two clubs at weekends. It's win win. Couples only club and single men allowed both Friday and Saturday. It gives couples chance to go on a couples night Friday and Saturday and single men on a Saturday as well as Friday, not possible before

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple  over a year ago

Herne Bay

They do this in one of Caps sauna works very well

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By *ustKeepSwinging999Couple  over a year ago

Basingstoke

We go to clubs for single men!

I get that they can be overwhelming with their presence, and many do give the expression of expecting to get something because they've paid so much for entry. We wouldn't attend a night that was couples only, and I think those put off by the guys should only attend couples nights - lets not ban them all together or restrict access around club areas.

H x

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"We go to clubs for single men!

I get that they can be overwhelming with their presence, and many do give the expression of expecting to get something because they've paid so much for entry. We wouldn't attend a night that was couples only, and I think those put off by the guys should only attend couples nights - lets not ban them all together or restrict access around club areas.

H x"

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"They do this in one of Caps sauna works very well"

Yes it does work there.

It is actually 2 separate clubs with a connecting door. Couples can go back and forth but not single guys.

When we go there we always stay in the single guy side but, strangely enough, Mrs H will only use the locker rooms on the couples side.

Great place though and Mrs H has had some of her best ever days in there.

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes

I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

"

So you'd love to be able to go to a club on a Saturday night as a single guy in Midlands matey?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

"

How do you get in if it is couples only?

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith

So; 12 positive responses to the OP’s actual question of “How many really want to meet single guys in a club?”, and apart from one in the North West, a couple from the Midlands, the rest have been from the South.....

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

How do you get in if it is couples only?"

If club is split into two clubs, one couples only, other singles allowed

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

How do you get in if it is couples only?"

I had a couples profile with a lady ..and couples membership.

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

So you'd love to be able to go to a club on a Saturday night as a single guy in Midlands matey? "

Hi , no I dont think so..definitely prefer to go as a couple on a couples night..

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

So you'd love to be able to go to a club on a Saturday night as a single guy in Midlands matey?

Hi , no I dont think so..definitely prefer to go as a couple on a couples night.."

To a, singles night

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"I think there will always be a need to cater to different peoples interests and depending on how it's done that can be fine.

Chameleons on a Friday night is great, it couples and singles, including guys. Its members only and I think the vast majority of the guys behave really well and are sociable normal blokes. There is one large play room that is couples only but everywhere else its normal with a generally great atmosphere. Singles in general, and single guys in particular have to make the effort to be sociable.

I sometimes go on a Saturday night which is couples only, it's still good fun, though interestingly a few single ladies I have chatted to prefer it less as they sometimes feel pestered by the couples and it's less sociable.

So you'd love to be able to go to a club on a Saturday night as a single guy in Midlands matey?

Hi , no I dont think so..definitely prefer to go as a couple on a couples night..

To a, singles night"

Sorry ..are saying would it be an idea to not have a couples only night on the saturday..but split the club instead and have greater demarcation between couples and single guys areas ?

If so ..no I wouldn't like that either..unless it was done very well..and physically I can't see how it would work ..as you know I'm a sociable chap ..and like to chat to folks..don't like the idea of single guys being segregated. You just need to manage the number and quality of the people, make sure they understand the rules etc..

I think having couples only nights is great...it caters for that group..the same as bi nights caters for another group...

Hope that makes sense..

H

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We also attend clubs mainly chameleons on a Friday night, which is the mixed night couples and singles, it's a great night, only place single guys and women cant go is the couples room. The staff control the single guys and anyone a ho is pest or stalker is warned or removed, the atmosphere is great and really friendly mainly down to the staff who help create this atmosphere. We would hate a club that segregated the singles and couples areas. If staff cant warn or remove singles who dont behave then we wouldn't return to a club. For us the club is about the freedom and fun socially and sexually most clubs have different nights couples only singles bi etc so people can choose. We suppose if that segregating folks at a club is another way of choosing what you want but not for us..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

From a purely selfish point of view from someone who often goes to clubs alone, I would love this idea

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk

Single guys are needed at clubs that's a given.

We have met loads of guys in various clubs however there is a small element that can't obide by the rules.

Like someone has stated above being stalked and followed around can be unnerving for a newbie and just annoying for the seasoned patrons.

The old Beverly's in Ibiza used to have a separate couples area as they had an open door policy.

For clubs that require membership less so as its easier to ban members if they are behaving inappropriately.

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"We also attend clubs mainly chameleons on a Friday night, which is the mixed night couples and singles, it's a great night, only place single guys and women cant go is the couples room. The staff control the single guys and anyone a ho is pest or stalker is warned or removed, the atmosphere is great and really friendly mainly down to the staff who help create this atmosphere. We would hate a club that segregated the singles and couples areas. If staff cant warn or remove singles who dont behave then we wouldn't return to a club. For us the club is about the freedom and fun socially and sexually most clubs have different nights couples only singles bi etc so people can choose. We suppose if that segregating folks at a club is another way of choosing what you want but not for us.."

Completely agree. The sense of liberation, fun, socialising, having a laugh...chat to people you might not see as your target demographic and find your pleasantly surprised ...all create a nice atmosphere...and like any club this is largely done by controlling who joins and the club rules..

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By *andomfodCouple  over a year ago

walsall

We want to meet a single guy, but when we last went to champs, it was our first time going when they were allowed in.

It was a different atmosphere and we found it difficult to navigate the club together because of guys puffing their chests out and crowding a lot of areas. Not to mention the wank zombies lol. We did meet one pleasant guy, but after a chat we didn't see him again all night.

Maybe we should try again once all this blows over.

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By *abriellajackCouple  over a year ago

Newport


"We also attend clubs mainly chameleons on a Friday night, which is the mixed night couples and singles, it's a great night, only place single guys and women cant go is the couples room. The staff control the single guys and anyone a ho is pest or stalker is warned or removed, the atmosphere is great and really friendly mainly down to the staff who help create this atmosphere. We would hate a club that segregated the singles and couples areas. If staff cant warn or remove singles who dont behave then we wouldn't return to a club. For us the club is about the freedom and fun socially and sexually most clubs have different nights couples only singles bi etc so people can choose. We suppose if that segregating folks at a club is another way of choosing what you want but not for us..

Completely agree. The sense of liberation, fun, socialising, having a laugh...chat to people you might not see as your target demographic and find your pleasantly surprised ...all create a nice atmosphere...and like any club this is largely done by controlling who joins and the club rules.."

Im theory we agree with you, however in practice it's entirely different in our experience. We have been on single guy nights twice now and found we were followed pretty much from the moment we got there. A couple of guys followed us around the bar area. Keeping their distance but observing our every move which is far creepier than just starting a conversation!

When we went anywhere to play together we had groups following and each of them disturbing us to ask to join in. We found it really off-putting.

We like the _tasia idea of not allowing single guys into the play rooms unless accompanied by a female or couple. That reduces half the issues.

Although it also blocks the from the gloryhole which kind of defeats the object of a gloryhole!

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes

I think they need to make the rules stricter ..and drum some common sense into some of the guys...yes lol ...good comment about the glory holes

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By *tasiaCouple  over a year ago

West Bromwich

Too much speculation over what we said and didn't say....so posted our full suggestion now as a new thread for you all to read, digest and comment on.

Leaving this one to run with the original OP.

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By *oney and ReggieCouple  over a year ago

braintree

We go to clubs for the single guys. If you segregate them too much then you will lose them. Is not easier to just throw out any that are a problem?

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham

Back to the OP -

There are lots of people who want to meet single guys, including in clubs.

Couples are not the enemy here. But it is up to clubs how they manage things, sadly a couple of clubs we know have problems with the behaviour of some of the single guys, they don’t take enough action to stop it, and hence some couples get put off.

To pick up on a point made above, even though we aren’t looking for single guys, we have on occasion had a more sociable and sexier evening when single guys are present rather than on dedicated couples nights. (This isn’t just focussed on Chams, probably more people notice it there, it being a big and busy club).

Our guess is that couples nights tend to have a few more nervous newbies rather than hardcore swingers.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"Too much speculation over what we said and didn't say....so posted our full suggestion now as a new thread for you all to read, digest and comment on.

Leaving this one to run with the original OP. "

Your post makes SO much more sense and sounds bloody fantastic!!! Well done guys xxxx

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk

I agree with the comments above, we tend to have more fun on the nights single guys are allowed in rather than on couple only nights.

Like I said above its a tiny minority that can't seem to follow the rules.

That being said I'm still a picky bitch and I still need to be attracted to the guys I'm playing with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

We used to frequent Xtasia regularly and they had this policy way back. To us it worked a treat and we generally only ever met single guys and the occasional couple.

What would you prefer? Because in all the clubs I've visited (and that's a lot) where there were no restrictions you had groups of random single guys crowding playing couples hoping to get involved, following people around and generally just standing in the corners of rooms knocking one out. Which put off the very couples and singles they hoped to meet.

If a couple or single woman wants to chat, mingle or play with a single guy then they will. No amount of segregation will stol that and there are always mixed areas to socialise and chat in.

Dividing areas in clubs helps everyone - even if single guys don't see it. And having been to clubs on my own for years I'd much rather have not been fighting through groups of guys everywhere all clamouring for the attention of the same people. It doesn't help anyone.

A

"

As a single guy I couldn't imagine stalking people hoping to get a fuck. Nice to be approached and get invited into a couple, plus I'm the guest. Perhaps I should start looking into kitchen windows is I want to get a dinner invite.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ive seen couples only rooms marked in clubs. But not whole sections designated for specific groups. Depends how big each section is going to be. Also are they going to designate gay guys to one part and straight to another?

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester

Lots of info on new thread _tasia have started rather than hijack this one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

"

It sounds like you think you can play with anyone because you paid to enter a club.

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"Lots of info on new thread _tasia have started rather than hijack this one"

Sounds like a win/win for everyone.

A

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"

Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

It sounds like you think you can play with anyone because you paid to enter a club. "

Lol! That's not what I meant at all...

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"

Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

It sounds like you think you can play with anyone because you paid to enter a club.

Lol! That's not what I meant at all... "

I didn't get that impression from what you said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

It sounds like you think you can play with anyone because you paid to enter a club.

Lol! That's not what I meant at all... "

It was this part "Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”)" that made it sound that way.

Its a shame you haven't had a positive experience, maybe your going on the wrong nights.

One of our favourite nights is young and hung at cupids, this normally attracts couples looking for guys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Fetish swinging crossover is probably our ideal tbh. Best of both worlds. As for separate areas there has always been couple only areas in clubs

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"

Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

It sounds like you think you can play with anyone because you paid to enter a club.

Lol! That's not what I meant at all...

It was this part "Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”)" that made it sound that way.

Its a shame you haven't had a positive experience, maybe your going on the wrong nights.

One of our favourite nights is young and hung at cupids, this normally attracts couples looking for guys. "

That part of what I said reflects most of my club-going experiences; making the effort to approach people (usually couples as there are rarely any single women in clubs), and being rebuffed because "We're not interested in single guys!". For example; in a recent club visit (mentioning no names), I started chatting with the wife of a couple at the bar, and the hubby very deftly positioned himself between us, put his arm firmly on the bar in front of me, and stood the whole time with his back to me. His wife was quite happy to chat with me, but now had to almost shout around her hubby. He motioned her away soon after. My point being; I wasn't being a letch, or a towel wanker, or a pest in any way, just trying to be sociable. After two hours of my own company, I left around 11.45.

I really would have to think long and hard about another club visit as single guy.

If you look at my profile, you will see I'm neither young, nor particularly 'hung' lol, but thanks for the tip

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"

Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”), it will take something special to get me to return to another club, if any do actually reopen once the crisis is over. Every club I’ve been to already has couples-only zones, with solid lines painted across the floor which single guys aren’t allowed to cross, so I’m guessing this club in the OP’s main thread didn’t have this before? I bet the entry fees won’t reflect the percentage of floor space available each demographic can use lol.....

It sounds like you think you can play with anyone because you paid to enter a club.

Lol! That's not what I meant at all...

It was this part "Having visited several clubs as a single guy, and received many knock-backs and negative responses from couples (“We’re not interested in single guys!”)" that made it sound that way.

Its a shame you haven't had a positive experience, maybe your going on the wrong nights.

One of our favourite nights is young and hung at cupids, this normally attracts couples looking for guys.

That part of what I said reflects most of my club-going experiences; making the effort to approach people (usually couples as there are rarely any single women in clubs), and being rebuffed because "We're not interested in single guys!". For example; in a recent club visit (mentioning no names), I started chatting with the wife of a couple at the bar, and the hubby very deftly positioned himself between us, put his arm firmly on the bar in front of me, and stood the whole time with his back to me. His wife was quite happy to chat with me, but now had to almost shout around her hubby. He motioned her away soon after. My point being; I wasn't being a letch, or a towel wanker, or a pest in any way, just trying to be sociable. After two hours of my own company, I left around 11.45.

I really would have to think long and hard about another club visit as single guy.

If you look at my profile, you will see I'm neither young, nor particularly 'hung' lol, but thanks for the tip "

We're so not like that, very social and chat to all mixes of people, doesn't mean we want to play but we do find some people think chat means your after them, this applies to couples also

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

That part of what I said reflects most of my club-going experiences; making the effort to approach people (usually couples as there are rarely any single women in clubs), and being rebuffed because "We're not interested in single guys!". For example; in a recent club visit (mentioning no names), I started chatting with the wife of a couple at the bar, and the hubby very deftly positioned himself between us, put his arm firmly on the bar in front of me, and stood the whole time with his back to me. His wife was quite happy to chat with me, but now had to almost shout around her hubby. He motioned her away soon after. My point being; I wasn't being a letch, or a towel wanker, or a pest in any way, just trying to be sociable. After two hours of my own company, I left around 11.45.

I really would have to think long and hard about another club visit as single guy.

If you look at my profile, you will see I'm neither young, nor particularly 'hung' lol, but thanks for the tip "

I suppose rudeness works both ways, we've had a guy follow us round the club and ask when it's his go after I've played with a guy and even after several declines he still kept asking. To be fair most guys are very respectful.

My tip would be talk to the hubby first. I like it when the guy has a good laugh with my OH because we know it will be a fun mfm. Though I'm not excusing the rudeness you have recieved that is uncalled for.

Try looking for a night like greeedy girls etc where the guy is a very much wanted asset.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Seems fair enough if you want singles you stay in that area if you are like us want cpls only you go in that area win win and why don’t you think you can name the club they won’t mind

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By *adMerWoman  over a year ago

Sandwich


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

I wouldn't attend a club that had large areas that single males couldn't enter, couples and single females get their own night in most clubs, single men don't. "

If single men got their own night that would be a gay night wouldn’t it?

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"In a club, that I will not name, they are making some changes to their layout and their rules during this lockdown. Which I think is great.

I have mostly ever visited this club for their kink events and not so much the swingers events. Though once or twice I did check it out. Call it curiosity if you will.

However, this club is diving their area so that singles guys can only be in certain areas of the club. Which is fair enough, it gives single ladies and couples their space. Plus many clubs seem to have no single guys nights.

Though I cannot help imagining that most couples and single women are going to stick to the no single guy areas. This at best would result in areas heavily populated by guys, with very few women.

This is something I don't think many women would like. So more realistically I can't help but imagine that this will result in areas with a bunch of single guys hanging out in and paying extra to do so.

Or do I have this all wrong?

I wouldn't attend a club that had large areas that single males couldn't enter, couples and single females get their own night in most clubs, single men don't.

If single men got their own night that would be a gay night wouldn’t it?"

Not if it was just a singles night.

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton


"

That part of what I said reflects most of my club-going experiences; making the effort to approach people (usually couples as there are rarely any single women in clubs), and being rebuffed because "We're not interested in single guys!". For example; in a recent club visit (mentioning no names), I started chatting with the wife of a couple at the bar, and the hubby very deftly positioned himself between us, put his arm firmly on the bar in front of me, and stood the whole time with his back to me. His wife was quite happy to chat with me, but now had to almost shout around her hubby. He motioned her away soon after. My point being; I wasn't being a letch, or a towel wanker, or a pest in any way, just trying to be sociable. After two hours of my own company, I left around 11.45.

I really would have to think long and hard about another club visit as single guy.

If you look at my profile, you will see I'm neither young, nor particularly 'hung' lol, but thanks for the tip

I suppose rudeness works both ways, we've had a guy follow us round the club and ask when it's his go after I've played with a guy and even after several declines he still kept asking. To be fair most guys are very respectful.

My tip would be talk to the hubby first. I like it when the guy has a good laugh with my OH because we know it will be a fun mfm. Though I'm not excusing the rudeness you have recieved that is uncalled for.

Try looking for a night like greeedy girls etc where the guy is a very much wanted asset.

"

. As a single guy when I approach a couple I tend to introduce myself to the male first and the female second but talk to both. I find this approach works best for me.Greedy girl nights are a good night for a single guy but not always as sometimes a lady is interested in a certain type of guy which you may not fit into her preference.At OP4F Saturday is couples night but at midnight they allow 5 select single guys to attend who have to send a txt they would like to attend all the names go into a electronic hat and the 5 select guys receive a txt at about 7.00 pm.This has always proved to be a good night whenever I have attended.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"

That part of what I said reflects most of my club-going experiences; making the effort to approach people (usually couples as there are rarely any single women in clubs), and being rebuffed because "We're not interested in single guys!". For example; in a recent club visit (mentioning no names), I started chatting with the wife of a couple at the bar, and the hubby very deftly positioned himself between us, put his arm firmly on the bar in front of me, and stood the whole time with his back to me. His wife was quite happy to chat with me, but now had to almost shout around her hubby. He motioned her away soon after. My point being; I wasn't being a letch, or a towel wanker, or a pest in any way, just trying to be sociable. After two hours of my own company, I left around 11.45.

I really would have to think long and hard about another club visit as single guy.

If you look at my profile, you will see I'm neither young, nor particularly 'hung' lol, but thanks for the tip

I suppose rudeness works both ways, we've had a guy follow us round the club and ask when it's his go after I've played with a guy and even after several declines he still kept asking. To be fair most guys are very respectful.

My tip would be talk to the hubby first. I like it when the guy has a good laugh with my OH because we know it will be a fun mfm. Though I'm not excusing the rudeness you have recieved that is uncalled for.

Try looking for a night like greeedy girls etc where the guy is a very much wanted asset.

"

I've had worse treatment than that, but like you say, I probably chose the wrong night. Thanks anyway!

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By *icentiousCouple  over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Single males can be a problem especially if two ladies are getting on well.

So a breakout area away from single males would work for us.

Thankfully it is a small percentage, who I suspect, have a wrong perception of clubs can spoil what was turning out to be a great night.

We are all there to have fun (I hope), it is those few who don’t have the awareness that fun doesn’t include them.

Perhaps if they were in a holding pen, they might just realise what they are doing isn’t working.

I’m all for a fully open club, unfortunately an erection appears to short circuit some people’s cognitive awareness.

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes

Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ...

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ..."

I like to pick on you H, deffo not ignore

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ...

I like to pick on you H, deffo not ignore "

Oh I know..your lovely I like talking to you ...x

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ...

I like to pick on you H, deffo not ignore

Oh I know..your lovely I like talking to you ...x"

Lots more banter matey x

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ...

I like to pick on you H, deffo not ignore

Oh I know..your lovely I like talking to you ...x

Lots more banter matey x "

As long as I make you laugh

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester


"Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ...

I like to pick on you H, deffo not ignore

Oh I know..your lovely I like talking to you ...x

Lots more banter matey x

As long as I make you laugh "

Always

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By *icentiousCouple  over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"Couples can be a real problem if you go to a club with a single lady as a friend..

I have been several times and me and my lady friend start talking to a couple..if we say we are just friends it's almost comical how quickly they focus on her and ignore me, incredibly rude..My impression is that as a percentage there are far more couples lacking in social skills than single guys...perhaps we should put couples in holding pens so they can observe the normal social etiquette when people meet..and hopefully learn something ..."

The meaning of communication is often the response you get.

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By *ophie199Couple  over a year ago

Leeds


"I go to clubs for single men. Not females or couples. I will be in the part of any club where the single men will be."

Me too Bluebell, hubby and I love our local club and only ever interested interested in the single guys!!

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By *mcouple2Couple  over a year ago

Warrington

Is that a Blackpool club?

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Poor single men! I wouldn’t want to go to a club with such segregation, they already get a bum deal by paying more to get in

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We do not have problems with singles guys in clubs but we will not play with any. The problems we have had is sometimes even just having a chat with guys at the bar they think it’s a green light for play. So sometimes it’s just easier to ignore them than having to deal with them later on. We have also been to a local club where the men were an absolute nightmare. Trying to follow women into toilet cubicles, trying to join in with sex without even asking or even talking at any point. Groping when just walking past. It’s put us off returning to that club. And if we do go back it will be a night when guys can’t go. We have found Jaydees is great, the numbers are limited and the guys are verified so you know they know and understand the rules. We don’t mind going there and talking to the guys as they are very well behaved.

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