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By *p4fun60 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hampshire

So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

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By *hippedcreamCouple  over a year ago

Outer London

You are absolutely right and if you want a case in point then look at Eureka. If it's still there.

Out of interest, I'm guessing your post isn't born from your Lib's visits (read your profile) and might be more AbFab/Kestrel stirred. Hellfire too. Clubbing around south-west London you'd have no trouble finding a cab home, or your next Heathrow taxi, they're all right there at the end of your bed.

Of course some couples like a lot of guys, and there's nothing wrong with that. But yes, we too prefer greedy girl nights should be an occasion rather than the norm.

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By *ayfayCouple  over a year ago

Essex

Completely agree and becomes off putting. We like going to a spa to relax as a couple and meet other like minded couples but unfortunately being followed around by single men and harrased just becomes annoying. There seems to be a lot more single men in these places compared to maybe a year ago...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As said before a club is not a club without couples.

We don't want to go to a gay bar either.

There needs to be a balance, staff should be monitoring ratios, limiting guys.

It does come down to money though. I don't think you can really own a swinging club and hope to make lots of profit.

You wouldn't get Dragons Den investing in 1.

Having certain events tailored to single guys and then other events with limited or no guys.

It's just about finding a balance.

Some just won't turn away £50 entrance fee etc.

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By *apperleymanMan  over a year ago

Nottingham

Most clubs do actually monitor the ratio.. I would say that 1 single male per couple would be the ideal ratio but obvs opinions differ.

Conversely I find that often some (a lot) of couples look down their noses at single males in clubs like they are somehow superior having paid a fraction of the entry fee..

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By *kyblue1878Couple  over a year ago

Southport

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By *eenawMan  over a year ago

anywhere and everywhere

Hi,

I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda.

I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days.

Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun.

Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about!

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By *apperleymanMan  over a year ago

Nottingham


"Hi,

I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda.

I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days.

Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun.

Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about!"

Have to agree - i always make an effort to be polite, friendly and to respect boundaries - there are some single males who act as if it’s the first time they’ve ever seen a naked woman.

However some of the worst behaving offenders I’ve ever seen in clubs are blokes who have come in with female partners - I’ve heard one say “it’s ok for me to touch you as I’ve come in with my partner so you know I’m good” ffs

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By *eenawMan  over a year ago

anywhere and everywhere


"Hi,

I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda.

I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days.

Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun.

Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about!

Have to agree - i always make an effort to be polite, friendly and to respect boundaries - there are some single males who act as if it’s the first time they’ve ever seen a naked woman.

However some of the worst behaving offenders I’ve ever seen in clubs are blokes who have come in with female partners - I’ve heard one say “it’s ok for me to touch you as I’ve come in with my partner so you know I’m good” ffs"

Can’t say I’ve seen that behaviour from anyone at the club I go to, and they do clamp down and take that sort of behaviour extremely seriously, but I agree that I’m sure it goes on.

I wish everyone would treat everyone with respect, kindness and observe people’s boundaries, but then again I’m one of life’s dreamers

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By *iss judgedWoman  over a year ago

North Bucks is where I hang around..


"Hi,

I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda.

I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days.

Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun.

Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about!"

I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations.

The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird.

There was a definite lack of personal space!

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By *hippedcreamCouple  over a year ago

Outer London


"I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations.

The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird.

There was a definite lack of personal space!

"

May I ask which club that was?

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By *icearmsMan  over a year ago

KIDLINGTON

I used to go to a few club events pre covid and generally had a good time with a great mix of people.

Since covid I have been to 3 events where men have totally outnumbered couples and single ladies. Tlits become apparent that in some cases the men being treated as cash cows are more important than the experience.

The fact that clubs are charging more for male entry also has an impact on the mindset of some of the guys there.. I've paid x amount therefore I'm entitled to a shag.

It's the same old story that's been doing the rounds since I've been on fab, and always continue, as you won't keep everyone happy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs.

Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company.

Whatever happened to looking after yourself?

Use your words!

You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection.

You’ll be in there on your own.

When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really.

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By *weetHotwifeCouple  over a year ago

Northampton

We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night.

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By *r-8-BBCMan  over a year ago

LONDON


"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs.

Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company.

Whatever happened to looking after yourself?

Use your words!

You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection.

You’ll be in there on your own.

When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. "

Great reply

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By *aribbean King 1985Man  over a year ago

South West London

And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman  over a year ago

tf1


"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. "

Absolutely. I’ve not had any hassle and I go on my own. I’m pretty vocal and would soon tell them.

Met some rude old guy last week who objected to me chatting to my mate and said we could do that in the pub and we were here to shag.

We just looked at him and he toddled off.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman  over a year ago

tf1


"And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men"

Well that’s a real shame

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men"

They’re not but you do what's right for you based upon your beliefs

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By *HaRiFMan  over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

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By *HaRiFMan  over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.


"And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men"

Is usually much more balanced than people think, (unless it's a greedy girls night). There are people that like single guys to be at clubs there are people that get uppity about single guys daring to exist in the same space as them. There are some people that enjoy socialising, there are others that lack social skills wondering around looking for an opportunity that doesn't require much social skills. But on the main , everything balances out because in my experience most people in clubs are very nice and welcoming. So don't be put off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The answer for us is very simple, go on single ladies and couples nights, over time surely the clubs will realise, actually on our last visit to a club we spoke to a few different couples that said they had attended with single males present and it was exactly as you described, one man from said couple looked like the type you didn’t want to piss off

Trouble is who’s to blame if it get outa hand

The club, the couple, or the single man ?

Vote with your feet eventually the ratio will be way past 4:25

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By *p4fun60 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hampshire


"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs.

Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company.

Whatever happened to looking after yourself?

Use your words!

You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection.

You’ll be in there on your own.

When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. "

Tbh I think you missed the point of my post, it's not just about the behaviour of single guys as like I said there are some really respectfully guys out there & we enjoy playing with them, it's more about the amount & quality of the guys that a venue let in to the detriment & enjoyment of couples

We've been in this lifestyle now for over 25 years but since the return from covid & the need for clubs to generate more cash, never have we seen so many single guys in a venue as are being allowed in now, I'm not talking about event nights where numbers are often set & monitored-

And yes we can certainly look after ourselves and a swift fuck off will do the trick,but ffs why should we need to! Reguardless if this hasn't happened to you, the fact there's even single guys on this thread agreeing kinda makes my point

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By *r FunFrolicks86Man  over a year ago

close to Peterborough

The club I go to limits the amount of us single guys that can go on any one night, we have to pre book and pay a deposit they don't have a night where they exclude us they just limit the numbers, there always seems to be a good mix of single women, couples and guys I've never noticed it being overwhelmed by single guys and if it was I probably wouldn't go myself.

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By *he-ProfessorMan  over a year ago

cheltenham


"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. "

I've always found Chams to be a very respectful place where everyone gets a bit of what they prefer.

I must admit that sometimes on nights of "guestlist events" there are a few guys who come across as a little entitled or pushy but it is still much less than many other clubs.

As a single guy I have always found being engaging & social is the key.

Sure some couples / ladies a looking for a queue to form but the majority respond to being treated as an individual.

Obviously nobody is everyone's cup of tea but adding a bit of sugar in the form of entertaining conversations is the best way to get a chance to find out

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By *jonesMan  over a year ago

Totnes


"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. "

Absolutely agree , been as a couple and a single.

The guys on Friday are often regulars , well behaved and great fun ...and it's a great atmosphere ...

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By *ocothumpaMan  over a year ago

quite close to you


"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs.

Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company.

Whatever happened to looking after yourself?

Use your words!

You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection.

You’ll be in there on your own.

When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really.

Tbh I think you missed the point of my post, it's not just about the behaviour of single guys as like I said there are some really respectfully guys out there & we enjoy playing with them, it's more about the amount & quality of the guys that a venue let in to the detriment & enjoyment of couples

We've been in this lifestyle now for over 25 years but since the return from covid & the need for clubs to generate more cash, never have we seen so many single guys in a venue as are being allowed in now, I'm not talking about event nights where numbers are often set & monitored-

And yes we can certainly look after ourselves and a swift fuck off will do the trick,but ffs why should we need to! Reguardless if this hasn't happened to you, the fact there's even single guys on this thread agreeing kinda makes my point "

You’re right the onus is on the club not the single guys attending. Remove the single men the clubs don’t make money - yeah you have one single ladies and couples nights but that’s only possible by the fact on other nights Single men attend. Remove them Single ladies have to start paying or paying much more that stops them from attending.

I think couples attending clubs (financially speaking and numbers wise) is not as important to a club as single women or single men. If you’re after a social aspect then yes couples are very important but in terms of appeal and finance couples are not important; what everyone wants : Single women. What every club needs: Single men.

It’s everyone’s responsibility to out the dickheads who attend; but the clubs need to do more to appeal to single women to attend and pay, soo to limit the numbers of single men.

Or just have one night where it’s just singles. No couples & counter that with just a couples night.

L

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think that most points have been covered, cost of running a club (especially if open day time) must be huge and when you look at numbers some times the clubs will not continue in any capacity.

I do think since Covid it’s more a reflection on society than the lifestyle. (Whether it’s due to the impression given in porn or not is up for debate) - tge art of conversation has been lost, and the sense of entitlement of sone is ridiculous add this to the rise of only-fans etc allowing deviants to pay and get others to do exactly what the request means those that either won’t or can’t converse with women/couples will continue to feel like they can behave as they wish.

As a single male who attends clubs, due to the inappropriate behaviour of single guys I’d rather sit in a hut tub on my own than watch a group of guys sat on sofas staring at the couples enjoying a drink, or constantly roaming and peering into every window. That being said I’ve also come across some very rude couples too, but I’m not sure I can always blame them based on the frustrations we see on the forums.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?..."

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really

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By *eeliciouschaosWoman  over a year ago

Wherever


"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs.

Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company.

Whatever happened to looking after yourself?

Use your words!

You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection.

You’ll be in there on your own.

When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. "

I was just about to post a comment but found your comment to be exactly what I wanted to write myself.

If it wasn’t for single guys, I wouldn’t be going to the clubs, simply as that. I had more uncomfortable behaviour from male part of so called “couples”, not to mention constant groping by tipsy women who always assume I was bi.

It’s not about the number of single guys in the club, it’s about quality of those club allows to attend and it’s pretty easy really.

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By *apperleymanMan  over a year ago

Nottingham


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really "

Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night

See how many couples attend then….

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really

Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night

See how many couples attend then…. "

But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there

Clubs are for couples; leave them to it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really "

They would all go bust quickly if they did that

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By *inky_chameleonsCouple  over a year ago

Silverstone

Unfortunately disrespectful or rude single guys are much more visible than the good guys and it only takes one person to ruin a scene/play/evening.

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By *apperleymanMan  over a year ago

Nottingham


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really

Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night

See how many couples attend then….

But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there

Clubs are for couples; leave them to it "

See that’s just the shitty attitude that some couples have - clubs are for everyone (all shapes, colours and sizes) not just couples - you wouldn’t be complaining if single females came in… would you?

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really

Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night

See how many couples attend then….

But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there

Clubs are for couples; leave them to it

See that’s just the shitty attitude that some couples have - clubs are for everyone (all shapes, colours and sizes) not just couples - you wouldn’t be complaining if single females came in… would you? "

If there were more single females in clubs, I would go more often

I’ve been too many times as a single guy, and rarely felt welcome, or appreciated, but usually just tolerated for my ‘penis pound’ in the till

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really

Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night

See how many couples attend then….

But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there

Clubs are for couples; leave them to it

See that’s just the shitty attitude that some couples have - clubs are for everyone (all shapes, colours and sizes) not just couples - you wouldn’t be complaining if single females came in… would you? "

I've been to lots of clubs and loads of different events.

I've never seen more than 5 or 6 single women.

So easy for them to pair up with someone.

Cost them nothing or next to nothing to get in aswell.

You just just don't get many single women going.

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By *anted by NightMan  over a year ago

Shangri-la


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?..."

Try couples only night or where they limit single guys numbers. It’s that simple

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


" I've been to lots of clubs and loads of different events.

I've never seen more than 5 or 6 single women.

So easy for them to pair up with someone.

Cost them nothing or next to nothing to get in aswell.

You just just don't get many single women going. "

You'll see more single ladies comment on this thread, than you will on an average club night

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I've been to lots of clubs and loads of different events.

I've never seen more than 5 or 6 single women.

So easy for them to pair up with someone.

Cost them nothing or next to nothing to get in aswell.

You just just don't get many single women going.

You'll see more single ladies comment on this thread, than you will on an average club night "

Aye probably

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By *ustus696969Couple  over a year ago

Southampton

We go to a local spa but on weekends after 5pm as it’s only couples only and always get busy so couples can relax and not get pestered x

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By *aidForSharingWoman  over a year ago

Lancs

You have to be very thick-skinned as a single woman in a club. Most men stare, fondle themselves in front of you and will take a brief smile as permission to follow you around all night. It makes women feel uncomfortable and even ladies free events are not enough to lure them in.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man  over a year ago

South West London

Sorry but just don't feel comfortable being around too many naked men

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By *woforfun 1000Couple  over a year ago

tadworth

I think the main point of the post is getting sidelined as the night events are run well with ratio usually depending on the event.

Think the issue is day time but tbh u don’t book for daytime so anyone with a membership can turn up and pay on the door and they can’t just refuse guys on the door because they already have x amount in as that wouldn’t be fair due to it being a naturist spa, usually on a daytime we have found a fair few couples but generally people work or have school runs etc which is prob why it’s more single man heavy.

But I have never found to be followed or pestered or even noticed the wanking dead on the daytimes and would def alert a member of staff if someone is getting too much as generally we go to chill, relax and socialise and if we find someone who we click with to play it’s a bonus.

Hope u give it another go as generally Wednesdays can be good fun there or try a Sunday the last two have been very busy with couples and single lady’s as well as respectful single guys! Xx

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By *p4fun60 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hampshire


"

I think couples attending clubs (financially speaking and numbers wise) is not as important to a club as single women or single men. If you’re after a social aspect then yes couples are very important but in terms of appeal and finance couples are not important; what everyone wants : Single women. What every club needs: Single men.

It’s everyone’s responsibility to out the dickheads who attend; but the clubs need to do more to appeal to single women to attend and pay, soo to limit the numbers of single men.

Or just have one night where it’s just singles. No couples & counter that with just a couples night.

L"

Loving the debate & just what i was hoping for but i wasn't talkng about necessarily evening events where numbers are controlled & Although I agree with some of what you're saying I think it's also very nieve from a single guys perspective that couples arnt as financial important as single guys firstly clubs were born for wife swapping/swinging something we've enjoyed for many years a couple may pay slightly less on an entry price but are much more likely to spend more money within the club as well as attend more events with their playmates or in search for new ones, a couple never come with the expectations of playing with another couple as if all else fails they can still play with one another as a couple we bring more to a club than a single guy & that's just s fact...so when we play with a single guys & enjoy their company that's great for the female but what do you bring to the table for her partner other than the fact he's allowing you to pleasure his wife? As a single guy if that's what you truly think then you're going to the wrong place as there are very few single females visting clubs than couples & you'd be better off sticking to tinder & plenty of fish where you're almost guaranteed a fuck from another singleton, rather than the hope of joining a couple. You have to be of the mindset that most couples will always benefit more from another couple than a one off single guy- but reguardless of that like as been said before single guys are now an important part of the scene & are welcomed into the clubs by couples,but it's equally important to everyone, not just single guys that not every couple are there to fuck, some maybe just voyeurs while others may be exhibitionist or just softplay - this thread was originally directed at the daytime spa community & how to level out the amount of guys attending, as a couple, just because we attend a club & enjoy this lifestyle doesnt mean I want my wife to be treated in a disrespectful way or that we enjoy being followed around in the hope that someone may get a glimpse of us playing or that we're going to open a playroom door no matter how hard it gets banged on, or appreciate that in the middle of a conversation someone's going to plonk themselves down by the side of us & get their cocks out,none of the afore mentioned would stand any single guy as a potential playmate, thankfully their are still some guys out there that get it & it's really appreciated when an effort is made

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By *host63Man  over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?..."

This is because in order to allow couples and single women to get in at a discounted price or in yhe women's its often free. The clubs overcharge men often double. So now after the pandemic yhey are now using this method to get more income. The only alternative they probably lying have to avoid charging you £80 that's in London is to allow more men.

This is why as a single man I simply a ois clubs its not worth it and I dislike being one of the zombies bored out of my mind wandering about and being treated like a leper if I say hello.

So question is, in order to have a lovely time without single men are you willing to pay the same as a single man?

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman  over a year ago

tf1


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really "

Well then you’d have the problem of couples coupling up just to be able to go to clubs.

I like going on my own. Why should I not be allowed to go to clubs because one or two single guys are idiots. And actually I’ve see more arguments and rows between couples on a couple night than I’ve ever seen hassle from single guys.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman  over a year ago

tf1


"Sorry but just don't feel comfortable being around too many naked men"

You know clubs aren’t naked right? Unless you specifically go to that kind of night.

And if you meet someone you want to play with they have private lockable rooms.

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By *anted by NightMan  over a year ago

Shangri-la


"And actually I’ve see more arguments and rows between couples on a couple night than I’ve ever seen hassle from single guys.

"

This is so true. I have seen more drama, arguments, disagreements and tears on couples only night.

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By *p4fun60 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hampshire


"

So question is, in order to have a lovely time without single men are you willing to pay the same as a single man? "

Once again some valid points but it's only fair to mention that the fee to get in yesterday was £35 for a couple & £40 for a single guy so hardly bank breaking for a single guy lol & it's the other way around they don't subsidise couples, a couple will purchase more at the bar during their stay than a single guy so in fact it all works out about even, but yes absolutely I'd pay more not to be bothered ( maybe a walking supervisor keeping an eye on their behaviour)& so like most couple will when they go to a Saturday night event which are normally couples & single ladies leaving the Friday nights for those that want couples & single girls, or maybe a greedy girls night

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By *d4fun73Man  over a year ago

Shipley


"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between.

Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play.

Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure.

Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening.

... what's the answer?...

The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really They would all go bust quickly if they did that "

Exactly!

Seems to be the usual self entitled couples who think clubs are only for them.

What people seem to forget is many couples and single ladies go for single guys.

And yes the guys causing problems are usually the socially inept ones.

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple  over a year ago

Middle England

We, as a couple, generally go to clubs when single guys are there. We prefer that dynamic and in fact works better than trying to find couples where all parties are on the same page.

Regarding the issue raised; OP could just go when it's couples only or learn to manage the situation when single guys are there. Just let them know if you want their attention or not.

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By *iss judgedWoman  over a year ago

North Bucks is where I hang around..


"I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations.

The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird.

There was a definite lack of personal space!

May I ask which club that was?"

Kestrels

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By *hippedcreamCouple  over a year ago

Outer London

guessed so. That's why we stopped going

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By *he Dark GentlemanMan  over a year ago

Rotherham

To be fair, a lot of it depends on the club itself.

I've been to clubs as part of a couple and also been as a single man and have experienced both sides of the coin.

The majority of clubs I have been to have a great balance of single men, single ladies and couples. Having now moved to the North from London, I have noticed the ratios are more balanced up here.

In some cases it's literally luck of the draw what the ratio is on non-event nights.

I would say having been a couple on and off here in the past, when we wanted couples only fun we specifically targeted couples only nights which were always easy to find.

Live and let live. There are some amazing women, men, couples in clubs and also on rare the opposite.

Spread the love

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By *aan31Man  over a year ago

Shropshire/Middlesex

The few times I've been Xtasia it's mostly couples!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"To be fair, a lot of it depends on the club itself.

I've been to clubs as part of a couple and also been as a single man and have experienced both sides of the coin.

The majority of clubs I have been to have a great balance of single men, single ladies and couples. Having now moved to the North from London, I have noticed the ratios are more balanced up here.

In some cases it's literally luck of the draw what the ratio is on non-event nights.

I would say having been a couple on and off here in the past, when we wanted couples only fun we specifically targeted couples only nights which were always easy to find.

Live and let live. There are some amazing women, men, couples in clubs and also on rare the opposite.

Spread the love "

Yeah take a nice woman with you and see what different looks you get. Suddenly people who didn't want to know you are all of a sudden interested...

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By *inky and QuirkyCouple  over a year ago

Leighton Buzzard

Is it the volume of single guys or their behaviour ….or both?

It does seem that their numbers are on the increase, but also it seems that standards and behaviour are becoming worse. There seems to be an increasing desperation and lack of respect, which simply makes everybody very uncomfortable.

Relaxing with other couples is incredibly enjoyable and respectful single males can be a lot of fun to include, but mostly these days it seems that they are becoming a menace and putting us off certain venues, which is a shame.

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By *oxy jWoman  over a year ago

somerset

ill be honest and have visted clubs all over the uk and abroad and been on this scene 30 years ... its been very rare we've had trouble with single guys in clubs yes there been the odd one mainly put down to nerves or not understanding how things go .. but by far the worse group for us has been the male half of other couples who think the same riules dont apply second worse group is women (mainly d*unk i will admit) who think because they are women that they can grope who they please ...

this is not to say there not a problem but single guys really do get pulled apart on the club scene and most of those wanking dead are the guys who go every week and most of them dont want to play they do just wank and they are easy to get rid of with a nice firm loud no thanks or not interested there no need to be abusiveif they dont listen the report to the manager / owners to deal with ..

there will never be a perfect club as they are set up for many different scenarios if you want couples only go to couples only nights ...me and hubs we prefer the nights where the crowd is very mixed lots of guys couples women tvs & trans gay bi all shapes sizes and ages those are the best nights ..

British clubs could do with following more of the clubs in europe the ones in germany are fantastic no caps no list tho you can book just turn up lots of fun and go home .... i do belive the main problem in clubs in the uk is people are afraid to say a blunt no thanks

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By *eenawMan  over a year ago

anywhere and everywhere


"I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations.

The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird.

There was a definite lack of personal space!

May I ask which club that was?

Kestrels "

This isn’t a dig at the club, the club is great, it’s a pop at the attitude of the men going there.

The way they are has definitely changed, the art of good conversation seems to have bypassed them

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By *outhEastPaulMan  over a year ago

Thames Ditton surrey

I visited Kestrels yesterday Thursday fairly quiet day number of couples varied between 1-3 and guys between approx 8-10 - And I have to say and the couples there agreed that this was one of the most respectful group of guys I’ve seen at a club with the vast majority non pushy chatty respectful of the couples wants and only making a close approach / joining in as requested / instructed by the couple - Made it a far more pleasurable day for all - I don’t know if any of the couples there are likely to see this but be nice to see my comment confirmed

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By *host63Man  over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own.

I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own.

I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere. "

Yeah you have to read the room before you make an approach. Why wristbands can be helpful.

Sometimes you try and you could be Brad Pitt but they're just not looking for single guys so you're shit out of luck.

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By *host63Man  over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own.

I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere. Yeah you have to read the room before you make an approach. Why wristbands can be helpful.

Sometimes you try and you could be Brad Pitt but they're just not looking for single guys so you're shit out of luck. "

Unfortunately the shit out of luck bit is way too common. It's a reason I don't go to clubs anymore unless I am actually meeting someone

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By *aribbean King 1985Man  over a year ago

South West London

Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

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By *oxy jWoman  over a year ago

somerset

the problem can be for a woman or couples that there is not enough choice ... been to club night were there were a few guys but great to chat to and social but not shag able so the needs to be more choice

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By *p4fun60 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hampshire


"Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own.

I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere. Yeah you have to read the room before you make an approach. Why wristbands can be helpful.

Sometimes you try and you could be Brad Pitt but they're just not looking for single guys so you're shit out of luck. "

Absolutely spot on! Not every couple or single woman is there looking for single guys & that should be respected - those that do including us when we wish to entertain a single guy make it quite obvious,although a lot of the time the general ability to read a room often seems lost due to sheer desperation

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple  over a year ago

Staines

I don’t think this discussion will ever go away.

Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend.

But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To be honest as a single male & a member of a local club, I don't really enjoy attending alone, only been a handful of times...

I'll probably stick to when there's a planned social event, because the quest for club buddy / FWB / hotwife is still ongoing.

I don't want to join the lounge lizards that I see roaming around.

I agree that the revenue obtained by clubs is heavily bolstered by the single males. But at least most clubs cater with couples only nights & events. Hopefully one day I'll be in a position to attend those with a partner.

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By *OULMATES12Couple  over a year ago

Leicester

I totally agree. Some of our most uncomfortable swinging occasions have been with couples with the male half acting like a tw@t or the woman assuming all ladies are bi.

There are many fabulous single guys in the scene. You just have to politely let the odd idiot, who thinks the lady is a sure thing, know that you are not interested in them joining you.

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple  over a year ago

Staines


"I totally agree. Some of our most uncomfortable swinging occasions have been with couples with the male half acting like a tw@t or the woman assuming all ladies are bi.

There are many fabulous single guys in the scene. You just have to politely let the odd idiot, who thinks the lady is a sure thing, know that you are not interested in them joining you. "

I've seen more trouble on couples only nights that I have where single gents are invited.

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By *anandEmily2465Couple  over a year ago

Bishop Auckland

We really don't like being followed around by the wanking dead. It is very off-putting. To add to their blatant disregard for manners, many of them are just plain creepy. It's even worse if they have their locker key on the wrist of their wanking hand. They then become the jingling wanking dead, giving jingle bells a whole new meaning. X

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By *yphodMan  over a year ago

London

One of my observations is not necessarily more men attending but fewer couples and single ladies.

A lot comes down to the host as well. Times when I've been to a club for the first time, if I've been introduced during my tour the ice is far more easily broken.

One thing discounted me last Friday was the number of people of single men who turned up to join on the night. If it had been existing members who had pre-booked early the ratio would have been much better.

This is how many clubs on the continent operate.

In terms of daytime spa clubs, I find it much easier to strike up conversation in a hot tub or sauna, just a hello may I join you goes a long way.

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By *host63Man  over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away.

Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend.

But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex. "

I don't think any guy that gies into thus environment thinks sex is a given. However, a little acknowledgement that we exist and a little effort on the part of single women or couples treating us like human beings woukd be nice.ignoring us or treating us as a necessary evil or just as things that pY to keep a club open for your fun dosnt exactly encourage me to want to attend swingers clubs, these days. If I want to feel excluded and marginalised I can find cheaper ways to do it.

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By *ustagentMan  over a year ago

wa14

Well there is a big difference in the men that attend i have been in clubs where the vast majority ,english is not their first language if fact they dont speak a word! And from a culture that think women are thete to serve ,sad but true, but money shouts loud, so they get in and so problems can arise,? And do

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By *p4fun60 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hampshire


" acknowledgement that we exist and a little effort on the part of single women or couples treating us like human beings woukd be nice."

Tbh my friend as a couple we could say exactly the same, I'm assuming from your previous replies that you're one of the more courteous single guys that knows how to behave in a club environment & how & when to interact with couples & single females & read the room, unfortunately for you as this thread proves theres a vast majority that don't & it's their behaviour that paints most of you with the same brush, unfortunate but true & its not couples that see single guys as a cash cow, that's firmly with the owners of the premises

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By *egoMan  over a year ago

Preston

I only take people on couples nights. Avoids the sausage fest of creepy guys.

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By *ature FAB FunCouple  over a year ago

Bolsover

I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’

I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union

British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like………

Chick x

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By *d4fun73Man  over a year ago

Shipley


"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’

I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union

British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like………

Chick x"

Like aparteid then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’

I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union

British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like………

Chick x

Like aparteid then "

Stay seated Rosa Parks

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By *toC Thats MeWoman  over a year ago

Sheffield

I think it must depend on the club/night, and how the ratios are managed.

I go to clubs to meet single men, I feel comfortable going alone to the many nights I have been to, and never had any issues.

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By *ancelot1633Man  over a year ago

weybridge


"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’

I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union

British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like………

Chick x"

That should do it, no more single guys, i certainly wouldnt consider attending on that basis. Just like the club that has single males queue until they believe the ratio is ok.

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By *nvisible_manMan  over a year ago

TWICKENHAM


"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away.

Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend.

But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex.

I don't think any guy that gies into thus environment thinks sex is a given. However, a little acknowledgement that we exist and a little effort on the part of single women or couples treating us like human beings woukd be nice.ignoring us or treating us as a necessary evil or just as things that pY to keep a club open for your fun dosnt exactly encourage me to want to attend swingers clubs, these days. If I want to feel excluded and marginalised I can find cheaper ways to do it."

Spot on - this is why I've pretty much given up on clubs. An expensive way to make you feel worthless.

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By *oveoldercouples99Man  over a year ago

London

Having been to both "straight" swinger clubs and gay saunas, most of the behaviour that people moan about at swinger clubs is just ignored or generally tolerated at gay saunas. Men will be men and there will always be those who can't behave appropriately.

That said, swinger clubs need to attract more couples on any given day. We all just need to go and support the clubs.

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By *quirtyndirty!Couple  over a year ago

Nottingham

Our two penn'orth for what it's worth. We go to clubs in the Midlands and the North, chams, libs, VA , Quest, Pandoras and feel that the single male quotas are generally about right. However we feel that it's getting harder for single guys to get membership as there's often a waiting list and this effects the quality and number of the single guys that go to the clubs.

Single guys are a very easy target, but clubs should review their memberships more often and give guidance for newer, younger men on the scene. Purple mamba in Nottingham do a single guys workshop for newbies explaining rules and etiquette which is a fantastic idea which more clubs should do.

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By *ctionman10Man  over a year ago

london

Having Attended many clubs a few for big events where you have to book on to if your a single guy or a couple the ratios are also perfect. Specially libs events.

However if you attend on a normal night couples tend not to book they just turn up so this does not help the owners to monitor the ratios.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away.

Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend.

But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex. "

Respect is a two-way street though, and I expect people to look me in the eye, rather than down their noses at me...

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By *iss pleasuringWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere near


"I think it must depend on the club/night, and how the ratios are managed.

I go to clubs to meet single men, I feel comfortable going alone to the many nights I have been to, and never had any issues.

"

Ditto what you said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away.

Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend.

But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex.

Respect is a two-way street though, and I expect people to look me in the eye, rather than down their noses at me..."

Know your role.

You are a lepper single guy.

Just an extra cock if needed.

Nothing more than a human sex toy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men "

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. "

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club "

100% lol

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple  over a year ago

Staines

How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club?

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman  over a year ago

tf1

That’s easy.

Make sure that the staff are friendly and chatty so you are not really left on your on. I’m thinking of chams set up here where you can prop yourself at the bar

Find out from the single ladies what they are there for. Ie woman, single guys, black guys etc.

go and find those people - being regular trusted members and introduce them.

If the club management know their members then they know who will be the chilled out couples or guys to recommend.

Make sure the single ladies are introduced to the other single ladies.

Check in with them on their first couple of visits and ask them if they are ok.

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By *d4fun73Man  over a year ago

Shipley


"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? "

Perhaps they should advertise outside of the usual swinging community.

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple  over a year ago

Staines


"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club?

Perhaps they should advertise outside of the usual swinging community. "

How would you suggest they do that? Clubs aren't really allowed to advertise using fliers etc due to the nature of the venue.

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple  over a year ago

Staines


"That’s easy.

Make sure that the staff are friendly and chatty so you are not really left on your on. I’m thinking of chams set up here where you can prop yourself at the bar

Find out from the single ladies what they are there for. Ie woman, single guys, black guys etc.

go and find those people - being regular trusted members and introduce them.

If the club management know their members then they know who will be the chilled out couples or guys to recommend.

Make sure the single ladies are introduced to the other single ladies.

Check in with them on their first couple of visits and ask them if they are ok.

"

100% agree. Most clubs have a host so it should be easy to introduce single ladies/new couples to the host, engage in conversation and introduce to regular members who you know will accept newbies.

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By *d4fun73Man  over a year ago

Shipley


"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club?

Perhaps they should advertise outside of the usual swinging community.

How would you suggest they do that? Clubs aren't really allowed to advertise using fliers etc due to the nature of the venue. "

I think they are allowed to advertise in lifestyle type magazines such as Cosmo?!

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By *eenawMan  over a year ago

anywhere and everywhere


"That’s easy.

Make sure that the staff are friendly and chatty so you are not really left on your on. I’m thinking of chams set up here where you can prop yourself at the bar

Find out from the single ladies what they are there for. Ie woman, single guys, black guys etc.

go and find those people - being regular trusted members and introduce them.

If the club management know their members then they know who will be the chilled out couples or guys to recommend.

Make sure the single ladies are introduced to the other single ladies.

Check in with them on their first couple of visits and ask them if they are ok.

"

I have personally witnessed staff at Kestrels do this, and they have been excellent at taking their time and looking after new single ladies

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton

It’s a catch 22 situation for clubs as it’s mostly single guys that attend but it’s single ladies and couples that attract the guys to attend. I know on a Saturday at OP4F it’s couples and single ladies with 5-6 select single guys who have to book would something like that work

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait."
It's like fishing in a puddle sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait.

It's like fishing in a puddle sometimes "

Squirt probably.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait.

It's like fishing in a puddle sometimes

Squirt probably. "

Touche

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By *d4fun73Man  over a year ago

Shipley


"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait."

Well that's what people have been discussing ! What's your ideas?

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By *toC Thats MeWoman  over a year ago

Sheffield


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club "

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men

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By *1876Man  over a year ago

Dudley

I haven't visited a club as of yet, but it's been on my "to-do" list for a while. However, having seen the extortionate fees that single guys are being hammered with (and some of the stories in this thread) I have to say that it's very discouraging for me as a single guy.

I'm very respectful, friendly and non expectant, but with the behaviour of some single guys being described here (which then understandably creates barriers between genuine single guys and some couples) it's definitely very off-putting.

I empathise with the good single guys and the couples who are being pestered by the Wanking Dead

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "

Were single men allowed on those nights?

If so where do you go?

Please, please, tell us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "

Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.

About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.

I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men

Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.

About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.

I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... "

I know where you can meet more women than men.

Go to a singles night around valentine's day.

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By *1876Man  over a year ago

Dudley


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men

Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.

About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.

I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... I know where you can meet more women than men.

Go to a singles night around valentine's day. "

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’

I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union

British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like………

Chick x"

I think the idea of keeping men separate till they are useful is an awful idea.

I've been going to clubs for many years.... and also tend to frequent the nights where single guys are allowed in large numbers.. and can safely say the only night I've had an issue... was couples only night.... had more hassle on that night than any other night

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple  over a year ago

Staines


"I think the idea of keeping men separate till they are useful is an awful idea.

I've been going to clubs for many years.... and also tend to frequent the nights where single guys are allowed in large numbers.. and can safely say the only night I've had an issue... was couples only night.... had more hassle on that night than any other night "

I hear you on that! I too find couple nights are more trouble

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men

Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.

About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.

I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... I know where you can meet more women than men.

Go to a singles night around valentine's day. "

I did actually go to one but ended up getting kicked out because all the ladies ended up infatuated with me. Just wasn't fair on the other singles

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple  over a year ago

Exeter


"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. "

You rarely get any trouble with single guys at Chameleons as most have waited so long to get a membership and don't want to lose it!

That said one one time we did have an issue it was on a non members night.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "

Really? I’ve only been 17 times as a single guy, and not once did I see more women than men. Is there a particular event you can recommend?

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By *anted by NightMan  over a year ago

Shangri-la


"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes it’s not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? "

Free entry for single ladies and lifetime membership.

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By *d4fun73Man  over a year ago

Shipley


"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes it’s not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club?

Free entry for single ladies and lifetime membership. "

Doesn't work swinging ladies will go anyway, not as if some random lady is going to walk into a club just because it's free!. On another note why should they? They use club facilities the same as everyone else.

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By *he Dark GentlemanMan  over a year ago

Rotherham


"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men

This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time.

I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all.

You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club

Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "

It's happened to me once where there more couples and single women than single men and I'm not based too far from you so I can well believe it happens (possibly even at the same club lol)

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By *oulkissMan  over a year ago

Croydon

Part of the problem is that some guys seem to think that getting into a club id like real-life dating apps.

I was at a Greedy Girls night in Feb and some guys commented on how "good" I was at it - all because I was chatting to peoplr, saying hello etc.

One guy was moaning because he wasn't getting any action but had no problem getting some on Bumble - he had had a meet just the day before.

A huge part of what I like about the scene is being around people wish a healthy open look to life, of which sex is part of, I mostly go to socials these days due to this, there is less "suspicion" of a single guy who starts a conversation as "so do you want to go find a room to play" is not suddenly going to come up.

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By *odgerMooreMan  over a year ago

Carlisle

Ive been to clubs as a sgl guy and it is difficult to break the ice especially as a new face - just have to take your time and make some conversation if you can. The main issue I think is expectations - some guys pay their fee and think that entitles them to play of some sort. It doesn’t and never has. You’re paying to use the club facilities - if anything else happens then great but you’re not entitled to anything other than admission to the club premises.

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By *inky_chameleonsCouple  over a year ago

Silverstone

We are going to Chams tomorrow. We normally don’t do night where single guys go. Unfortunately, some get too handsy and give the legit guys a harder task to breaking that perception which is such a shame.

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By *oulkissMan  over a year ago

Croydon


"We are going to Chams tomorrow. We normally don’t do night where single guys go. Unfortunately, some get too handsy and give the legit guys a harder task to breaking that perception which is such a shame."

Report the handsy guys.

If bad behavior is reported the guys will get kicked out/banned and this will make things better in the future, as couples will be less hassled, and so, hopefully will be more up for chatting with single guys.

I say chatting as I don't expect it toi suddenly make couples want to play with the fuys there but chatting is fine, right?

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