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A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a
Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence
If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license
We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license
We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law
Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hmmmmm
"A sexual entertainment venue is defined as “any premises at which relevant entertainment is provided before a live audience for the financial gain of the organiser or the entertainer.”
Not sure why this is required...
Maybe remove pole and stop playing porn?
And a friendly solicitor?
Obviously if the 'licence' isn't granted.
Good luck ....
PS wonder if VA have one too as they are in the same catchment area... |
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Gosh!.. that's disappointing to hear. Sadly l never attended the club, but always heard good things about it...especially that people local to the area supported it really well. It's always disappointing when small intimate clubs have to close, as our choice will be large commercial ones.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Btw the full regulations for Bedfordshire can be seen by googling
"sexual entertainment license bedford"
I know a club owner who deliberately has not put video screens and a pole in his club to avoid the above licence.
You can buy quite a lot of solicitor time for the annual licence cost. (£4300 PA)
It appears that Video in clubs = above licence needed.
Without the above things, you could certainly argue (with certainty) that you are NOT providing entertainment under the act.
I would be inclined to arrange an informal meeting with the Council at the club and discuss what would need to be removed to comply with the act...
Anyway, good luck with whichever route you take. 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not sure about VA. They're in the neighbouring council area of Central Bedfordshire and they may interpret the regulations differently."
They do yes.... Bedfordshire have added a clause regarding 'booths' over the other Councils I have perused... The regs quote items considered entertainment... (poles, lapdancing, topless bars etc)... Bedford added one at the end. |
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"  bloody councils just don't want people to have fun.....be back to house parties and ads in the local fee ads "
Would renting the rooms out in an air B and B style for private meets work as an interim measure. Of course offering the hottub facilities to residents ??  |
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We were forced to get this licence and it took us over a year to get it through, eventually getting the seal of approval in October last year. The guidance is quite strict and is more than tv screens and poles!!!
ALL clubs will eventually need to get this licence and I did put it out there a while back warning clubs that councils will start rolling this out. At the moment it is a recommendation by government for councils to enforce this licence, but it will become compulsory eventually.
It's a pain in the ass but actually it sorts the wheat from the chaff. The clubs who run under the radar and get away with murder will be shut down. So if you can get this through, it will set you aside. For those who are saying fight it though solicitors, you can fight it for now, but you are just delaying your re-opening and delaying the inevitable when it becomes compulsory. I have no problem with clubs being regulated..bring it on!
If you want any help, just PM me as it was a MURDEROUS process and I would be happy to help if it makes things easier for you
Vicky xxx
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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Maybe there's something else you could do with the beautiful grounds in the meantime, like a naturist area with camping or something.
I do hope it gets sorted out as quickly and easily as possible. |
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"Cornwall council so I've been told won't approve any clubs in Cornwall at all. It's rubbish and means we have no club scene round here. Hopefully your council approve yours"
There's loads of councils that won't approve a licence. Our neighbouring council in Liverpool won't approve a club (we've tried), neither will the other surrounding councils. This is why you find a cluster of clubs in certain areas as they have more 'sympathetic' councils. It's ridiculous!
Liverpool are fine with money laundering pole dancing and lap dancing bars but not a legit swinging clubs for consenting adults!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I guess its down to the legal definition of 'Sexual Entertainment'...
The things quoted in the regs are certainly included in some/most clubs and its not an exhaustive list.
It would, probaby, need a court case to see if 'having sex in a club', as we would know it, could be defined as 'entertainment' under this act/reg....
Alternatively, roll over and take it... ie pay the 'sex tax' and dont bother fighting it as its a commercial issue at the end of the day and maybe not worth the stress/aggro.... Clearly this is a different issue to club safety, music licensing, tax, insurance etc |
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"There's more to it. I'm not prepared to disclose publicly but if clubs want to chat to me directly about it, then I'm happy to do so  xx
Just thinking as there are a lot of independent clubs out there perhaps regarding planning licenses etc you should work together?
Perhaps set up a joint organisation ....safety in numbers as they say! "
I am always working with other clubs on all sorts of stuff, so I am happy for clubs to chat to me if and when the licence is enforced in their area xx |
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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago
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"Cornwall council so I've been told won't approve any clubs in Cornwall at all. It's rubbish and means we have no club scene round here. Hopefully your council approve yours
There's loads of councils that won't approve a licence. Our neighbouring council in Liverpool won't approve a club (we've tried), neither will the other surrounding councils. This is why you find a cluster of clubs in certain areas as they have more 'sympathetic' councils. It's ridiculous!
Liverpool are fine with money laundering pole dancing and lap dancing bars but not a legit swinging clubs for consenting adults! "
It's such a shame because down in Cornwall it's pretty much cut off from everywhere. We have no choice but to travel and stay over night whenever we want to go to a club! |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"We were forced to get this licence and it took us over a year to get it through, eventually getting the seal of approval in October last year. The guidance is quite strict and is more than tv screens and poles!!!
ALL clubs will eventually need to get this licence and I did put it out there a while back warning clubs that councils will start rolling this out. At the moment it is a recommendation by government for councils to enforce this licence, but it will become compulsory eventually.
It's a pain in the ass but actually it sorts the wheat from the chaff. The clubs who run under the radar and get away with murder will be shut down. So if you can get this through, it will set you aside. For those who are saying fight it though solicitors, you can fight it for now, but you are just delaying your re-opening and delaying the inevitable when it becomes compulsory. I have no problem with clubs being regulated..bring it on!
If you want any help, just PM me as it was a MURDEROUS process and I would be happy to help if it makes things easier for you
Vicky xxx
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Thanks for the cool head Vicky as this is our local club and I can't wait for this to by sorted out asap!
We will be up in townhouse this September. |
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Very sorry to hear this, and hope you manage to get it sorted.
And kudos to Townhouse for being the first club (as always) to reach out and offer help. Many of us recognise this and we're planning to visit on the basis of your positivity.
(Ok, the rumour of a very large gin bar may also have played a part ) |
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"Very sorry to hear this, and hope you manage to get it sorted.
And kudos to Townhouse for being the first club (as always) to reach out and offer help. Many of us recognise this and we're planning to visit on the basis of your positivity.
(Ok, the rumour of a very large gin bar may also have played a part ) "
Oh it's not a rumour!! Haha 56 guns, all tested for quality by myself before making it to our bar! Lol
You are very welcome to visit anytime but hopefully your local club won't be closed for long!!!! X |
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Can never really understand what local councils are up to with this licence malarky specifically in relation to judging what adults get up to in basically a private nightclub. (Not specifically Jaydees, all clubs).
Probably all very arguable legally but the cost and effort of doing so almost certainly outweighs getting the licence.
We get the politicians, including local politicians, we vote for unfortunately. |
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"I would suggest that all commercial clubs will be facing the requirement of a sex entertainment license. "
So if a swingers club doesn’t have a pole or video screens, what technically makes it a swingers club rather than a nightclub? (Yes some nightclubs have poles).
Beds? Nightclubs can have chill out couches for example.
Philosophical question really |
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"I would suggest that all commercial clubs will be facing the requirement of a sex entertainment license.
So if a swingers club doesn’t have a pole or video screens, what technically makes it a swingers club rather than a nightclub? (Yes some nightclubs have poles).
Beds? Nightclubs can have chill out couches for example.
Philosophical question really "
Like I've said above, there's actually a lot more to the licence than screens and poles. Unfortunately, if the council decide that they want to enforce the licence on swingers clubs, they can and will. What they will do though is tailor the licence to be more applicable to our needs rather than those of a lap dancing club which is completely different xxx |
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What we can’t work out is why they had to close us down. Didn’t give us a lot of time to cancel everyone. We will also have to send people their money back for cottage rooms etc. Thank you for all your concerns Townhouse and everyone else. We have gone away for a couple of days to get over the shock so we will speak to everyone soon x. We have also had other clubs messaging too with help, we really appreciate it and it’s nice to know that everyone cares |
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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago
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Sex establishment licences
Changes in legislation introduced a new category of sex establishment known as a 'sexual entertainment venue' (SEV).
This gives us powers to control the number and location of lap dancing clubs and similar venues.
A sexual entertainment venue is any premises at which ‘relevant entertainment’ is provided before a live audience for the financial gain of the organiser or entertainer.
‘Relevant entertainment’ is described as "any live performance or live display of nudity which is of such a nature that, ignoring financial gain, it must reasonably be assumed to be provided solely or principally for the purpose of sexually stimulating any member of an audience (whether by verbal or other means)".
An audience can consist of just one person.
Sexual entertainment venues (SEVss) are those that provide forms of entertainment such as:
lap dancing
pole dancing
table dancing
strip shows
peep shows
live sex shows
Sex shops and sex cinemas are not SEV’s, but are separately defined under the 1982 Act and require their own licence.
Premises that only provide relevant entertainment on an infrequent basis (defined by the 1982 Act as less than 1 per month) and premises exempted by the Secretary of State are also not included.
Fees
Sex shop or cinema
New licence: £659.70
Renewal (annual) licence: £457.30
Transfer or variation licence: £457.30
Sexual entertainment venue
New licence: £1,537.30. Checklist of what needs submitting.
Renewal (annual): £1,101.10. checklist of what needs submitting.
Transfer or variation: £1,101.10. Checklist for transfer or variation.
How to apply
You can apply online for a sex establishment licence.
With your application you must:
pay the appropriate fee
place an advertisement in the local paper within 7 days of the application
place a notice on the site of premises for not less than 21 days from day following the day on which it was given to the licensing authority on blue paper (must be able to be seen conveniently by members of the public)
send a copy of the application to police
provide a photograph of each individual applicant
provide a criminal conviction certificate or record
provide a plan of the premises (at scale 1:100)
Tacit consent
Tacit consent does not apply for this licence. If you have not heard from us within a reasonable period, please email the licensing team - licensing@centralbedfordshire.gov.uk.
Appeals and redress
Rights of appeal following determination of application
The following persons may, at any time before the expiration of the period of 21 days beginning with the date on the which the individual is notified of the Councils decisions, appeal to a Magistrate's Court:
an applicant for the grant, renewal or transfer of a licence whose application was refused
an applicant for the variation of the terms, conditions or restrictions on or subject to which any such licence is held whose application is refused
a holder of any such licence who is aggrieved by any term, condition or restriction on or subject to which the licence is held
a holder of any such licence whose licence is revoked
Specific mandatory grounds for refusal of a licence are set out in the Act
A licence cannot be granted:
to anyone under 18 years of age
to someone who has held a licence that was revoked in the last 12 months (from the date of revocation)
to someone who has been refused a new or renewal of licence within the last 12 months (from the date of making the application
to an individual who is not resident in the United Kingdom or has not been resident for six months prior to the making of an application
to a company not incorporated in the United Kingdom
About the premises
Licences will not be granted for schools, colleges, nurseries or any other premises substantially used by children under 18 years of age
They not be granted in these areas:
areas frequented by children and families
residential areas
parks or other recreational areas used by children under 16 years
areas frequented by vulnerable adults
areas associated with family leisure and retail
community buildings
Churches or other places of religious worship
buildings or locations where leisure activities are undertaken
sites of historical or heritage value
About our area
Given the characteristics of Central Bedfordshire most areas will not be suitable.
Areas where it is likely a licence will be granted are industrial areas or adjacent to main transit routes.
There is no right of appeal against a decision based on this element of the policy.
Venues
You can view a register of sex establishment licences (PDF 2.4KB) issued in Central Bedfordshire. |
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"What we can’t work out is why they had to close us down. Didn’t give us a lot of time to cancel everyone. We will also have to send people their money back for cottage rooms etc. Thank you for all your concerns Townhouse and everyone else. We have gone away for a couple of days to get over the shock so we will speak to everyone soon x. We have also had other clubs messaging too with help, we really appreciate it and it’s nice to know that everyone cares "
Councils are a strange brew at the best of times. We have never been to your club but have heard good things about it. We hope you find a way through this situation. Remember though that the council tends to get what the council wants and upsetting them is never a good idea! All the best x |
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I don't know why they have issued an immediate notice to close. We continued to trade whilst we were going through the arduous process. Did they tell you why you had to close immediately? It seems a very severe thing to do if I'm honest |
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I thought it was a necessity to have a sexual entertainments license it was the first thing I was told I would need to get if I wanted to try opening any swingers/adult venue and that was 5 years ago. It doesnt matter about the poles or video screenings, theres a whole lot more than goes into than that. |
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Jaydees is located in the Bedford Borough Council area, so anyone interested in the licensing process Jaydees will have to go through needs to refer to Bedford's website.
As has been said, the policy includes a list of venues which would need a SEV licence. It includes all the places you might expect but doesn't specifically mention swinging clubs. It does though have a get out clause, which says the list is not exhaustive and it's what takes place at the venue which is more important rather than what it's called. In other words, it's down to their discretion what they require to be licensed.
At £4.3k per annum, it's a nice little earner for a cash strapped council and a neat way for a council licensing officer to justify their role and cover part of their salary. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I thought it was a necessity to have a sexual entertainments license it was the first thing I was told I would need to get if I wanted to try opening any swingers/adult venue and that was 5 years ago. It doesnt matter about the poles or video screenings, theres a whole lot more than goes into than that. "
If you look at the above you can see the licence is geared towards places like lapdancing venues etc... although there is a general "get out" clause.
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The blindingly obvious thing to do is to ask why an entertainment licence is needed and which things (if any) tip the ballance. Then review.
Why pay for a licence you may not actually need?.
However, this equates to about £80 per week so may be worth just taking the hit.
Hope it gets sorted soon because its a great club |
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I have dealings with the council (Beds) on almost a daily basis, the ageing Lib Dem heavy population are easily offended and have plenty of time to complain.... wouldn’t be surprised if this was pushed up the chain by the parish council.
The only thing I would say is just play their games and it will get sorted a lot quicker than trying to fight it -
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"We were forced to get this licence and it took us over a year to get it through, eventually getting the seal of approval in October last year. The guidance is quite strict and is more than tv screens and poles!!!
Great to see people standing together
ALL clubs will eventually need to get this licence and I did put it out there a while back warning clubs that councils will start rolling this out. At the moment it is a recommendation by government for councils to enforce this licence, but it will become compulsory eventually.
It's a pain in the ass but actually it sorts the wheat from the chaff. The clubs who run under the radar and get away with murder will be shut down. So if you can get this through, it will set you aside. For those who are saying fight it though solicitors, you can fight it for now, but you are just delaying your re-opening and delaying the inevitable when it becomes compulsory. I have no problem with clubs being regulated..bring it on!
If you want any help, just PM me as it was a MURDEROUS process and I would be happy to help if it makes things easier for you
Vicky xxx
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By * and PCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a
Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence
If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license
We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license
We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law
Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused "
Just another bump to let those know who may not have seen yet |
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By *RS79Man
over a year ago
Milton Keynes |
Very sad to see this news. Lomgntone since I attended due to changes in life but always a good venue.
There was a guy in the forum recently on this subject who may be able to help but cant find the thread. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just a thought, while the clubs closed why don’t you have a ‘volunteer day’. I’m sure there must be some decorating, painting or maintenance that needs doing? Maybe celebrate the end of the day with a quiet drink in the hot tub? |
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By *eyleighCouple
over a year ago
bishop stortford |
We have used this club several times over the last few years and always left wanting to return so sad to hear of your troubles but I'm sure with a slice of determination and help from others you will open again in the near future. Best of luck. |
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This action by Bedford Borough Council seems to be an old fashioned witch hunt. Your damned either way. Remember the old fashioned ducking stool, if you drown your innocent and if you don’t then your burnt at the stake as a witch. No win scenario!
The application fee of £4300 circ. is NON refundable??? Straight away the hairs on your neck go up, if you read Bedford Boroughs minutes of meetings you will most likely get a feeling of the probability of this licence getting accepted being fairly low without a whole lot of stress, time and additional money being thrown at it. The non refundable issue is also a scary thought, especially with the whole lot of negativity from the licensing team, really would have thought they should be helpful in these matters. I agree time should be given to put “JDs house” in order and they should be allowed to trade until a final decision has been made, or JDs says no thank you and closes the doors themselves. I think all concerned would be happy to bite the bullet and pay the extortionate fee (3 times what Central Beds charges as a next door council). If it was a formality. Poor JDs provides such a safe and secure environment for all of us in the lifestyle, catering for the minority groups and trends and communities that the main stream don’t want.
Since opening their doors with full planning permission as a legit swingers club they have kept a thriving business that has so many positives and fantastic reviews as well as satisfying all other official departments such as Environment Health, Fire and Safety, Police etc. happy, it’s a shame that the powers to be have told licensing to enforce this SEV licence, but as said.. no issues in paying their “put you off” extortionate fee, if all the above are happy that the club is being run safely that they are still allowed to trade whilst going through this process which others have said can take a year to complete.
Above not being fair and putting a huge amount of unneeded stress on any company that has to immediately close its doors, doesn’t mean the bills don’t stop coming in, seems almost illegal. I could understand if there was a risk to life. I think the BBC (That’s Bedford Borough Council). Not the BBC we have come to know.. hmmmm 
should have transparency with their policy and procedures for enforcing this SEV, there seems to be so many councils invoking these in their own formats, with different conditions, especially the immediate closure one. If everyone sung from the same central government song sheet it would be so much better. This was the same when personal licences first came out. The licensing departments each had their own way of doing things!
Rant over.... #supportJDs
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By (user no longer on site)
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I hope guys get this sorted and wish you all in the world.
It seem a little odd the way they have implemented things and I hope there is a way that you can challenge the closure decision whilst you get sorted.
Either way fingers crossed for you all and best of luck. |
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Too echo the above sentiments we really hope you can find a way around this..we would hate too have possibly been the last couple too visit your great club..speaking too another club owner in bedfordshire it seems there maybe.. but probably not as things are set up at present..
T&L x |
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By *nd69Couple
over a year ago
hull |
"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a
Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence
If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license
We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license
We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law
Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused
Just another bump to let those know who may not have seen yet "
Isn't a sev a club that you have to pay for sev e.g. a lap dancing club. Swingers clubs are normally private members clubs and if you're not there for sexual entertainment as such as it's private members doing what they want |
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"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a
Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence
If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license
We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license
We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law
Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused "
Eureka in Kent, had to get rid of the pole and videos.
It’s ridiculous, |
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"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a
Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence
If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license
We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license
We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law
Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused
Just another bump to let those know who may not have seen yet
Isn't a sev a club that you have to pay for sev e.g. a lap dancing club. Swingers clubs are normally private members clubs and if you're not there for sexual entertainment as such as it's private members doing what they want"
no there's much more to it than that xx |
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Let’s hope that common sense prevails and the licence is applied for, accepted,, fee paid (through gritted teeth) and JDs doors are once again open.
And then I woke up out of fantasy land before I came crashing to the ground.
I do like the idea of a dogging car park festival, maybe a drive in cinema experience playing porn on a 50’ screen. Apparently Bedford have a great riverside car park ????. |
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"Let’s hope that common sense prevails and the licence is applied for, accepted,, fee paid (through gritted teeth) and JDs doors are once again open.
And then I woke up out of fantasy land before I came crashing to the ground.
I do like the idea of a dogging car park festival, maybe a drive in cinema experience playing porn on a 50’ screen. Apparently Bedford have a great riverside car park ????. "
Bedford Borough Council has a lovely big car park right outside there offices lol |
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As Dreams United has said we are having problems with the council they are not being very helpful at all and telling us to consult a solicitor all the time. Even though one of their problems was they had done the forms wrong. The price has gone up 3 times to apply for the licence too which seems very strange. So we are as Dreams has said going to grit our teeth and pay the £4,500 to apply and hope for the best that they will accept  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don’t we just love the bureaucrats whose only purpose in life is to perpetuate endless red tape!!!! What a rewarding life they must lead – not !!
Councils and their licenses are legendary in my field of work, licences to print money more like!!!
In terms of effort and expense it is virtually pointless trying to fight them and they know it. They are infamous devils for moving the goal posts again and again should you try.
There is argument certainly – this is a private club with a regulated membership, on private ground well away from public view not a peep show on the High Street.
Sadly your only action, other than changing the business, is as you have said pay the fee and play their game.
In the meantime if the mass dogging festival or 50’ cinema goes ahead count me in ?
Missing you all heaps, let’s hope it isn’t for too much longer. Massive reopening weekend me thinks!!!
Xxx Kitten xxx
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There must be a member that is a solicitor or of legal knowhow that could help out .
We are new members and itching for our second visit ....
It seems like it's all about the financial gain , could you not get around it by saying entrance fee is free but car parking is x amount . |
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Really shocked / surprised that that the council have forced this, we weren't regulars, but enjoyed our visits here. I dont quite understand why they've pushed this, the club wasn't in the middle of town, no close neighbours, schools, no parking issues & in theory it was a private members club. Hope they get their license. |
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It isn't about where we are, its the fact that we needed a Sexual Entertainment Venue licence, its all to do with nudity in the club.
Hopefully we are getting there, its something that councils are gradually introducing, to generate more revenue £4500.00 nonreturnable to apply. |
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Can someone explain how an Sev licence works for a club of this kind. Looking at the conditions holding this licence in any of the listed categories would prohibit sexual acts between customers and require recorded cctv of every area including private rooms.
The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.
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"Can someone explain how an Sev licence works for a club of this kind. Looking at the conditions holding this licence in any of the listed categories would prohibit sexual acts between customers and require recorded cctv of every area including private rooms.
The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.
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I believe that the conditions can be interpreted to include any venue that offers sexual services which does and would include any club that allows sex or portrays sex via video screens in there venue. The punishment for breaking the rules are quite severe. Of course not all councils are implementing the sev requirement but it appears more and more are. The nasty bit is the upfront cost with no guarantee of a successful application. Things have changed a lot over the past 20 years and clubs have become more popular and the number of them has increased which brings them in to view of the local council's and in turn the tax they can generate from them. The obvious conclusion is the smaller venues will fall by the way side. The upside is the strong possibility that there will be a upturn in house parties which is where the clubs scene was born from in the first place. |
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"Can someone explain how an Sev licence works for a club of this kind. Looking at the conditions holding this licence in any of the listed categories would prohibit sexual acts between customers and require recorded cctv of every area including private rooms.
The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.
I believe that the conditions can be interpreted to include any venue that offers sexual services which does and would include any club that allows sex or portrays sex via video screens in there venue. The punishment for breaking the rules are quite severe. Of course not all councils are implementing the sev requirement but it appears more and more are. The nasty bit is the upfront cost with no guarantee of a successful application. Things have changed a lot over the past 20 years and clubs have become more popular and the number of them has increased which brings them in to view of the local council's and in turn the tax they can generate from them. The obvious conclusion is the smaller venues will fall by the way side. The upside is the strong possibility that there will be a upturn in house parties which is where the clubs scene was born from in the first place. "
I really hope it doesn’t go to house parties. We tried it and really didn’t like them. It’s so much safer and less pressure at a club. |
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"Can someone explain how an Sev licence works for a club of this kind. Looking at the conditions holding this licence in any of the listed categories would prohibit sexual acts between customers and require recorded cctv of every area including private rooms.
The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.
I believe that the conditions can be interpreted to include any venue that offers sexual services which does and would include any club that allows sex or portrays sex via video screens in there venue. The punishment for breaking the rules are quite severe. Of course not all councils are implementing the sev requirement but it appears more and more are. The nasty bit is the upfront cost with no guarantee of a successful application. Things have changed a lot over the past 20 years and clubs have become more popular and the number of them has increased which brings them in to view of the local council's and in turn the tax they can generate from them. The obvious conclusion is the smaller venues will fall by the way side. The upside is the strong possibility that there will be a upturn in house parties which is where the clubs scene was born from in the first place.
I really hope it doesn’t go to house parties. We tried it and really didn’t like them. It’s so much safer and less pressure at a club. "
House parties are no different to clubs in as much as No means No in both environments. We have been to lots of clubs and house parties and have never felt any pressure to do anything and I've only ever felt unsafe once and that was a case of to many candles and to much nylon! Don't get me wrong I feel that the powers that be sticking there noses in is a terrible thing and I wish they would sod off and mind there own but that isn't likely to happen. I can think of at 4 club venues within an hour of us that currently operate under the radar and are prime for council intervention. Money talks and that's just the way it is. |
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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago
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I really hope it doesn’t go to house parties. We tried it and really didn’t like them. It’s so much safer and less pressure at a club. "
I know what you mean. At house parties it's always so much more pressure to play |
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Clubs employ professional staff which helps with safety. They also tend to have more equipment available such as hot tubs, saunas, and kink play areas with expensive play equipment. Jaydees has a hot tub so large you can swim in it. No house party could hope to match an excellent club for facilities or atmosphere. |
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"Clubs employ professional staff which helps with safety. They also tend to have more equipment available such as hot tubs, saunas, and kink play areas with expensive play equipment. Jaydees has a hot tub so large you can swim in it. No house party could hope to match an excellent club for facilities or atmosphere. "
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"Clubs employ professional staff which helps with safety. They also tend to have more equipment available such as hot tubs, saunas, and kink play areas with expensive play equipment. Jaydees has a hot tub so large you can swim in it. No house party could hope to match an excellent club for facilities or atmosphere. "
The point I was trying to make was this. The more councils get involved the less clubs there will be and the result of such intervention will be an increase in house parties, life finds a way! And not all clubs employ professional staff and not all clubs have the best equipment or atmosphere. This wasn't a comparison between the two forms it's a simple statement of fact as to what happens when the authorities get involved. |
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By *andrxCouple
over a year ago
bedford |
We really hope there is a happy ending with this situation , at jaydees we have had the most wonderful times both socialy and sexually The time money and effort invested by John , Tracey and the team has made it 100% the best club around by far . Good luck guys and hope to be seeing you real soon .
Steve and Rosie
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The point I was trying to make was this. The more councils get involved the less clubs there will be and the result of such intervention will be an increase in house parties, life finds a way! And not all clubs employ professional staff and not all clubs have the best equipment or atmosphere. This wasn't a comparison between the two forms it's a simple statement of fact as to what happens when the authorities get involved. "
I agree that could well be the result of councils poking their noses into clubs....
However after the post stating this, there were a few posters saying that this would be a good thing as they prefer house parties.
I've done plenty of both, house parties and clubs...and I'd hate to lose clubs for the reasons I outlined. Both type of event have their place, and it looks like councils are not just looking at unprofessionally run clubs as Jaydees is probably as well run as you'll find anywhere...and one of the best equipped. |
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The point I was trying to make was this. The more councils get involved the less clubs there will be and the result of such intervention will be an increase in house parties, life finds a way! And not all clubs employ professional staff and not all clubs have the best equipment or atmosphere. This wasn't a comparison between the two forms it's a simple statement of fact as to what happens when the authorities get involved.
I agree that could well be the result of councils poking their noses into clubs....
However after the post stating this, there were a few posters saying that this would be a good thing as they prefer house parties.
I've done plenty of both, house parties and clubs...and I'd hate to lose clubs for the reasons I outlined. Both type of event have their place, and it looks like councils are not just looking at unprofessionally run clubs as Jaydees is probably as well run as you'll find anywhere...and one of the best equipped. "
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By * and PCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"Is there any news on Jaydees at all?? Heard really good things about it. "
JayDees is still temporarily closed
but keep an eye on the events forums for news of when this very popular and well attended club will be opening again |
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By * and PCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
Yes JayDees is open this Saturday, only a few hours to go now and the interest for our members for our Hight Heels and Short Skirts party is tremendous, think they have missed us all
So don't be shy come and have fun, you will be glad you did |
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By * and PCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
We will keep everyone updated as to when JayDees club will be open again. On our profile, in here and on the events forum. So please be patient while things are being worked out and please keep watching
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