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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hi
I'm rather curious as to why you chose to allow users to filter their results by ethnicity but not by any other user metrics such as height, build, tattoos etc.
It seems rather strange that for some reason you are allowing people to have racial preferences but not like big or slim people for example.
Any chance you could explain this, well ill call it what it is, mildly racist search option?
I have no issue with it if you let users search by all the available criteria but singling out race seems to be a bad idea to me!
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I don't think it is ethnically biased but the point the OP makes that it could certainly look that way when you aren't able to filter other attributes that are more relevant.
I think most users would support much more detailed search filters and options for putting in more types of information but that's been true for years. |
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jezz the word racist used to be a powerful word to describe hate for someone of a different culture or colour.nowadays its thrown around for any old reason.op mabye people just dont feel attracted to people of certain colour or culture, and that is fine.it does not mean they hate or despise them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It wasn't there when I originally joined, but lots of request for it. Why does it have to mean anyone is racist.
Yes some other option would be nice, but come so many lie or don't describe themselves correctly anyway.
Not quite sure what some people use to measure there height and body types is laughable sometimes.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Maybe because everyone views themselves differently, because I think someone is fat doesn't mean they think of themselves as fat, someone with 10 tattoos might not class themselves as heavily tattooed, someone with 10 piercings might not think they are heavily pierced, etc etc etc, so how can you filter it? You can't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was just quite disappointed to find that there wasn't an option for people fitting the aryan criteria!
Blonde hair, white, blue eyes, not a gypsy/Jewish etc...  |
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"Racist? i think you need to find other things to get annoyed at"
Nicely put 
Being racist is about hating people because of their race. It is not about having preferences for the people you choose to have sex with.
Put the racist card away  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If i want to search for a black women i will, am i allowed to say black?
Course you're allowed to say black! Why wouldn't you? "
If he's encountered the forum police it's a reasonable question ...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If i want to search for a black women i will, am i allowed to say black?
Course you're allowed to say black! Why wouldn't you? "
what about BBW? is that rasist AND body shaming |
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"Hi
I'm rather curious as to why you chose to allow users to filter their results by ethnicity but not by any other user metrics such as height, build, tattoos etc.
It seems rather strange that for some reason you are allowing people to have racial preferences but not like big or slim people for example.
Any chance you could explain this, well ill call it what it is, mildly racist search option?
I have no issue with it if you let users search by all the available criteria but singling out race seems to be a bad idea to me!
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We see you have selected "Not looking for single guys" on your profile. Isn't that a tad... sexist?  |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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"Hi
I'm rather curious as to why you chose to allow users to filter their results by ethnicity but not by any other user metrics such as height, build, tattoos etc.
It seems rather strange that for some reason you are allowing people to have racial preferences but not like big or slim people for example.
Any chance you could explain this, well ill call it what it is, mildly racist search option?
I have no issue with it if you let users search by all the available criteria but singling out race seems to be a bad idea to me!
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Racist? Let's see,... Is there malice in your heart while you search?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No, its not racist. Its called personal preference.
There many better things to do than look for racism under every stone.
Unless of course you're trolling the forums. |
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By *il_MissBMFCWoman
over a year ago
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"If i want to search for a black women i will, am i allowed to say black?
Course you're allowed to say black! Why wouldn't you?
If he's encountered the forum police it's a reasonable question...
xx"
Trust you two to pop up Hope you're ok..
Well, at the BMFC, we're f**ked if you can't say black |
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Racist or not being able to search for a certain ethnicity is all well and good, but still could be wasting time if they're not looking for you type.
Surely it's not necessarily about racism and more about saving peoples time.
I do agree that more filters would be good, like another site I used to use were they had the things your suggesting even things like religion where included, but the cost of that site was just too much.
How much can we ask of Fab's administration considering so many use the site for free |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"jezz the word racist used to be a powerful word to describe hate for someone of a different culture or colour.nowadays its thrown around for any old reason.op mabye people just dont feel attracted to people of certain colour or culture, and that is fine.it does not mean they hate or despise them."
Again your making my point for me. I used that word to spark the conversation however why is it being segregated against other metrics? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It wasn't there when I originally joined, but lots of request for it. Why does it have to mean anyone is racist.
Yes some other option would be nice, but come so many lie or don't describe themselves correctly anyway.
Not quite sure what some people use to measure there height and body types is laughable sometimes.
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All those refernaces to size etc are relevant to opinion. Allowing a non exact version of a persons size such as fab accepts makes for no firm grounds on personal preference thus resulting in a purely objective view. They allow height to be specific yet decide size is relative to opinion.
For example I'm 6'2" which by comparison to the average jockey (should I be in that world) would be very large yet if I was a basketball player I'd feel small and may describe myself as such.
My point is that using a mid of specific and subjective variables to assettain people's views of themselves makes for very ambiguous results and makes it impossible to search fairly for people you may or may not be attracted to as some thing such as race or high the are counted as facts and this can be searched upon and others such as size are relative to the individuals view of themselves and thus unusable.
Having such ill though out search criteria and metrics makes for both a bad user experience and make the site weighted to (in this case) "racist" (tenuous use of that word) views yet size or weight are deemed inappropriate.
Look forward to everyone's responses. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If i want to search for a black women i will, am i allowed to say black? "
Very tru but can you say fat women or thin women. Maybe black thin men or Asian fat TV's wo are below 5'6" I could go on.
I'm all for searching or saying what things are however I'm against saying what is ok to serve and what's not.
It's either all or nothing! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I was just quite disappointed to find that there wasn't an option for people fitting the aryan criteria!
Blonde hair, white, blue eyes, not a gypsy/Jewish etc... "
Are you attempting to make a pony here or are you genuinely looking for the third reich search? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Racist? i think you need to find other things to get annoyed at
Nicely put
Being racist is about hating people because of their race. It is not about having preferences for the people you choose to have sex with.
Put the racist card away "
Happily do that but would anyone have looked if I had not put that in the title wonder?
Also I did not state it was I asked the question. Should i not question how things are done just because it's the way it is done? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Hi
I'm rather curious as to why you chose to allow users to filter their results by ethnicity but not by any other user metrics such as height, build, tattoos etc.
It seems rather strange that for some reason you are allowing people to have racial preferences but not like big or slim people for example.
Any chance you could explain this, well ill call it what it is, mildly racist search option?
I have no issue with it if you let users search by all the available criteria but singling out race seems to be a bad idea to me!
Racist? Let's see,... Is there malice in your heart while you search? "
Nope.
Mostly blind horn!!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If i want to search for a black women i will, am i allowed to say black?
Course you're allowed to say black! Why wouldn't you?
If he's encountered the forum police it's a reasonable question...
xx
Trust you two to pop up Hope you're ok..
Well, at the BMFC, we're f**ked if you can't say black "
Who said you can't say what you want.
I'm saying you can and you should. But I'm saying if you can say black or white you should be able to say tall or thin or fat or short!
Equal is equal. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Racist or not being able to search for a certain ethnicity is all well and good, but still could be wasting time if they're not looking for you type.
Surely it's not necessarily about racism and more about saving peoples time.
I do agree that more filters would be good, like another site I used to use were they had the things your suggesting even things like religion where included, but the cost of that site was just too much.
How much can we ask of Fab's administration considering so many use the site for free"
Having worked I web development regularly I'm very sure that adding a variables that already exist in their database to the search options is not only simple it's realitivly cheap and requires little more development time than it has taken me to write the meany response to this post. Assuming a competent coder is behind the site and the architecture is relatively sound.
Ps I'm well aware I'm awful at spelling and grammar as I'm dyslexic so please try to ignor that and judge me on my content not your views on my grammar etc as so often happens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Personally I'm a little confused as to who you think the search criteria is racist against? All Races are available for everyone's personal preference. If you can think of a race of people missed from the list then I would love to know, and then I could maybe understand your point (Obviously Neanderthal's are not in existence any more, so don't play that card). |
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"jezz the word racist used to be a powerful word to describe hate for someone of a different culture or colour.nowadays its thrown around for any old reason.op mabye people just dont feel attracted to people of certain colour or culture, and that is fine.it does not mean they hate or despise them.
Again your making my point for me. I used that word to spark the conversation however why is it being segregated against other metrics? "
thing is though is that black is black white is white etc.bbw and "skinny"and stuff are all subjective so it wouldn't work would it. . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm looking for a pansexual Aryan dwarf heamaphrodite with only moderate right wing views,smokes a pipe and great personal hygiene.im also a vegan,where are my search filters?... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"jezz the word racist used to be a powerful word to describe hate for someone of a different culture or colour.nowadays its thrown around for any old reason.op mabye people just dont feel attracted to people of certain colour or culture, and that is fine.it does not mean they hate or despise them.
Again your making my point for me. I used that word to spark the conversation however why is it being segregated against other metrics? thing is though is that black is black white is white etc.bbw and "skinny"and stuff are all subjective so it wouldn't work would it. ."
Race isn't the ONLY filter though is it? You have age, sex and location don't forget.
It's not perfect, but I don't think it's racist. I certainly don't think it's intentional been done that way.. Which is when youd be well within your rights to hand out the race card.
Personally I think the emojis are racist.. One green to sixteen yellow? Wtf? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"jezz the word racist used to be a powerful word to describe hate for someone of a different culture or colour.nowadays its thrown around for any old reason.op mabye people just dont feel attracted to people of certain colour or culture, and that is fine.it does not mean they hate or despise them.
Again your making my point for me. I used that word to spark the conversation however why is it being segregated against other metrics? thing is though is that black is black white is white etc.bbw and "skinny"and stuff are all subjective so it wouldn't work would it. .
Race isn't the ONLY filter though is it? You have age, sex and location don't forget.
It's not perfect, but I don't think it's racist. I certainly don't think it's intentional been done that way.. Which is when youd be well within your rights to hand out the race card.
Personally I think the emojis are racist.. One green to sixteen yellow? Wtf? "
Mr emoji-san was Chinese! Hence the ratio...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"jezz the word racist used to be a powerful word to describe hate for someone of a different culture or colour.nowadays its thrown around for any old reason.op mabye people just dont feel attracted to people of certain colour or culture, and that is fine.it does not mean they hate or despise them.
Again your making my point for me. I used that word to spark the conversation however why is it being segregated against other metrics? thing is though is that black is black white is white etc.bbw and "skinny"and stuff are all subjective so it wouldn't work would it. .
Race isn't the ONLY filter though is it? You have age, sex and location don't forget.
It's not perfect, but I don't think it's racist. I certainly don't think it's intentional been done that way.. Which is when youd be well within your rights to hand out the race card.
Personally I think the emojis are racist.. One green to sixteen yellow? Wtf?
Mr emoji-san was Chinese! Hence the ratio...
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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My point must have not been clear as everyone seems to be reiterating the same things and not taking my original point that it's not ok to say you like thin or fat on this site or short or tall.
If you like mowhaks etc that's perfect and if they add a field to allow hair style then it to should be searchable.
Basically I'm saying that the search is shit and that why have they singled out race and why do you all feel that's ok.
I agree hat everyone has their types and that that's brilliant. I also agree that it's most likely unintentional
and that when whom Weber programmed this they decided. That age, sex, location and race were the things you could search on.
If your going to have a basic search ASL makes sense. If your gonna have a good search then all available variables I.e. Hight, build, race, sexual preference, kinks etc should all be filters.
Be it racist or not to single out race as the only searchable discriminating factor is somewhat irelavant but what is is that fact that the search is shit!! Lol.
Ps. Maybe the emoji making task was sent to the minions and they modelled them after themselves. |
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I see what you are getting at that you want better filters.
Ie body Size and height.
But by throwing in the racist grenade you've kinda blinded your main point.
As you say a height range would be simple to add.
The weight one is subjective as people can self classify, but could be added. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi
I'm rather curious as to why you chose to allow users to filter their results by ethnicity but not by any other user metrics such as height, build, tattoos etc.
It seems rather strange that for some reason you are allowing people to have racial preferences but not like big or slim people for example.
Any chance you could explain this, well ill call it what it is, mildly racist search option?
I have no issue with it if you let users search by all the available criteria but singling out race seems to be a bad idea to me!
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How is it racist?? And racist to who exactly? Those you don't want to meet and who don't meet your preference? Nothing demeans true racism like some whiny person who thinks he's missing out because he doesn't fit people's preferences.
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Hi
I'm rather curious as to why you chose to allow users to filter their results by ethnicity but not by any other user metrics such as height, build, tattoos etc.
It seems rather strange that for some reason you are allowing people to have racial preferences but not like big or slim people for example.
Any chance you could explain this, well ill call it what it is, mildly racist search option?
I have no issue with it if you let users search by all the available criteria but singling out race seems to be a bad idea to me!
We see you have selected "Not looking for single guys" on your profile. Isn't that a tad... sexist? "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I see what you are getting at that you want better filters.
Ie body Size and height.
But by throwing in the racist grenade you've kinda blinded your main point.
As you say a height range would be simple to add.
The weight one is subjective as people can self classify, but could be added."
Boom! Best point made. |
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"I see what you are getting at that you want better filters.
Ie body Size and height.
But by throwing in the racist grenade you've kinda blinded your main point.
As you say a height range would be simple to add.
The weight one is subjective as people can self classify, but could be added."
Have you seen how wrong some people get their height 
Point well made though |
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mass noun] Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior:
‘a programme to combat racism’
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1.1 The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races
How will we ever get rid of it when it's used to justify bollocks like this? I shag who I want I suggest we all worry about our own choices instead of using the relevant ism to make others choices wrong |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If i want to search for a black women i will, am i allowed to say black?
Course you're allowed to say black! Why wouldn't you? what about BBW? is that rasist AND body shaming "
Big women aren't a race of their own, despite some people thinking we require our own country to live in! |
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"I am racist, heightest, sexist, ageist, and a whole load of other 'ists'. And I am also a 'couldn't give a tossist' to anyone who has a problem with my 'ists'"
I agree. It's my body and my rules. I'll choose who to have sex with and who not to. Irrespective of any perceived attitudes. I know me, other people don't. |
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I think OP was simply suggestion that if ethnicity is searchable/filterable then all the criteria should be.
I don't see why there would be an issue with allowing all the criteria to the searchable/filterable so that people can search/filter on their preferences. |
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