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Anyone else worry what the future holds for the next generation?
What world are kids will be brought up in?
I’m not taking about climate change and net zero by 2050.
When we were growing up life seemed simple and straight forward.
Seems to be a lot of you can’t do this or that and you have to be this and that.
A lot of people seem to worry about what job your neighbor has what type of car they drive and what kind of house they live in.
You can’t seem to call anyone out anymore or else you’re in the wrong. People are gone soft
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You may be spending too much time on social media.
That thing that seems to be common these days about how "you can't say anything anymore" is mostly a social media invention and is mostly said by people with extreme views. |
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Can't say I've noticed any of that in the real world beyond the internet.
Life and people's interactions are exactly the same as they've always been.
For as long as I've been on the planet there have been some who have to keep up with the Jones's and are quick to tell you how many holidays they've been on.
Apart from that all the other bs is manufactured and it's only those who buy into it that have problems. |
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"Can't say I've noticed any of that in the real world beyond the internet.
Life and people's interactions are exactly the same as they've always been.
For as long as I've been on the planet there have been some who have to keep up with the Jones's and are quick to tell you how many holidays they've been on.
Apart from that all the other bs is manufactured and it's only those who buy into it that have problems. "
I dont think it's only on the internet. I agree that a lot of the BS is manufactured, and spread on the internet. But that has led to it being a problem in real life.
We see it on the threads every day. Tunnel vision on their views with no give on either side. You can go to any social gathering and the same arguments are happening with the same results.
We are being divided like never before. Friends and family not talking because of their opposing views. |
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"Can't say I've noticed any of that in the real world beyond the internet.
Life and people's interactions are exactly the same as they've always been.
For as long as I've been on the planet there have been some who have to keep up with the Jones's and are quick to tell you how many holidays they've been on.
Apart from that all the other bs is manufactured and it's only those who buy into it that have problems.
I dont think it's only on the internet. I agree that a lot of the BS is manufactured, and spread on the internet. But that has led to it being a problem in real life.
We see it on the threads every day. Tunnel vision on their views with no give on either side. You can go to any social gathering and the same arguments are happening with the same results.
We are being divided like never before. Friends and family not talking because of their opposing views. "
People of a certain age who have never been on the internet have had entrenched views for generations so it's nothing new. I'm not sure what type of social gatherings you are going to but I would be avoiding those as I've never experienced that.
Family members have fallen out but usually over things that affect them directly within the family.
I've never yet seen anyone fall out over political views or things that seem to trigger social media users.
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There are movements that are growing across the Western world that are more polarized than they have ever been and it wouldn't be possible without the internet.
Terfs and the toxic manosphere to name but a few.
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By *og-ManMan 6 weeks ago
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Genuinely I worry about the future generations for lack of affordable housing
My other worry and maybe I'm wrong but my adult kids dont seem to spend time meeting other people to have relationships
My two eldest have never had a boyfriend/ girlfriend but my youngest is out 2 nights a week with lots of his mates
I don't seem to worry about him coming home at 5 in the morning
I worry about the other 2 not going out
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Mines a climate worry tbh, we're all like lobsters in a pot at the minute as the temperature slowly increases.
And that is partly what's leading to movement of populations, housing pressures, and general feelings of agitation.
I agree with other posters above though, getting out of the house, being in the beauty of Irish summer in our parks and gardens, saying howaya to people or sharing a smile is a good antidote to worries. Xx  |
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"Anyone else worry what the future holds for the next generation?
What world are kids will be brought up in?
I’m not taking about climate change and net zero by 2050.
When we were growing up life seemed simple and straight forward.
Seems to be a lot of you can’t do this or that and you have to be this and that.
A lot of people seem to worry about what job your neighbor has what type of car they drive and what kind of house they live in.
You can’t seem to call anyone out anymore or else you’re in the wrong. People are gone soft
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As you have already noticed in this thread there are plenty of people that will tell you that what you are noticing is completely untrue, thereby proving that what you said is completely correct. You really can't say anything. |
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"There are movements that are growing across the Western world that are more polarized than they have ever been and it wouldn't be possible without the internet.
Terfs and the toxic manosphere to name but a few.
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The Terf movement = reality/fact based Women.
Yeah that's some new movement alright 👍  |
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"Can't say I've noticed any of that in the real world beyond the internet.
Life and people's interactions are exactly the same as they've always been.
For as long as I've been on the planet there have been some who have to keep up with the Jones's and are quick to tell you how many holidays they've been on.
Apart from that all the other bs is manufactured and it's only those who buy into it that have problems.
I dont think it's only on the internet. I agree that a lot of the BS is manufactured, and spread on the internet. But that has led to it being a problem in real life.
We see it on the threads every day. Tunnel vision on their views with no give on either side. You can go to any social gathering and the same arguments are happening with the same results.
We are being divided like never before. Friends and family not talking because of their opposing views.
People of a certain age who have never been on the internet have had entrenched views for generations so it's nothing new. I'm not sure what type of social gatherings you are going to but I would be avoiding those as I've never experienced that.
Family members have fallen out but usually over things that affect them directly within the family.
I've never yet seen anyone fall out over political views or things that seem to trigger social media users.
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Really?? Politics, economics, immigration to name but a few never come up in any social gatherings you attend. I dont know if you think i attend some secret, invite only events but I'm saying I only have to go to the local shop to hear people arguing over these topics. I'll take your word for it that you don't see it, but I see it everywhere. Maybe it's just cavan. I'd like to live where you live😊, because it does my head in to be honest. If you don't agree with someone you are on "the other side". I'm not on any "side". I'll happily meet anyone in the middle because that's generally where the truth is. |
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"Can't say I've noticed any of that in the real world beyond the internet.
Life and people's interactions are exactly the same as they've always been.
For as long as I've been on the planet there have been some who have to keep up with the Jones's and are quick to tell you how many holidays they've been on.
Apart from that all the other bs is manufactured and it's only those who buy into it that have problems.
I dont think it's only on the internet. I agree that a lot of the BS is manufactured, and spread on the internet. But that has led to it being a problem in real life.
We see it on the threads every day. Tunnel vision on their views with no give on either side. You can go to any social gathering and the same arguments are happening with the same results.
We are being divided like never before. Friends and family not talking because of their opposing views.
People of a certain age who have never been on the internet have had entrenched views for generations so it's nothing new. I'm not sure what type of social gatherings you are going to but I would be avoiding those as I've never experienced that.
Family members have fallen out but usually over things that affect them directly within the family.
I've never yet seen anyone fall out over political views or things that seem to trigger social media users.
Really?? Politics, economics, immigration to name but a few never come up in any social gatherings you attend. I dont know if you think i attend some secret, invite only events but I'm saying I only have to go to the local shop to hear people arguing over these topics. I'll take your word for it that you don't see it, but I see it everywhere. Maybe it's just cavan. I'd like to live where you live😊, because it does my head in to be honest. If you don't agree with someone you are on "the other side". I'm not on any "side". I'll happily meet anyone in the middle because that's generally where the truth is. "
I've lived politics and people being on opposite sides for most of my life so I avoid all that shite and don't watch or listen to news.
I can honestly say I've never actually sat in a room where two people were discussing immigration and I've only ever seen healthy debates regarding other topics with no major rows or falling out.
I don't hang out with people who have extreme views on anything so I can easily say I've only ever seen people going off on one either on here or on social media. |
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No, not beyond climate and sustainability. They are the things that worry me.
Society is ever evolving. With each generation comes more tolerance and an erosion of the entrenched views that generations that came before appear to cling to. It's rare you'll hear a young person espouse the idea that you can't say anything these days |
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Today's snowflake is yesterday's pc brigade.
There's always been butt hurt bigots railing against people who are the 'wrong' color, nationality, gender or sexuality and while that rhetoric will likely never go away it's worth remembering that there are actual Nazis in government in Germany with support billionaire tech oligarchs and the reach of people like Tate and Rowling is enormous and influential.
Look at how the laws are being rolled back decade's in the States and there are children being raised there that will vote for more of it.
The people that shout the loudest about 'not being able to say anything' usually want to insult someone or take away the rights of someone who's already vulnerable.
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"Anyone else worry what the future holds for the next generation?
What world are kids will be brought up in?
I’m not taking about climate change and net zero by 2050.
When we were growing up life seemed simple and straight forward.
Seems to be a lot of you can’t do this or that and you have to be this and that.
A lot of people seem to worry about what job your neighbor has what type of car they drive and what kind of house they live in.
You can’t seem to call anyone out anymore or else you’re in the wrong. People are gone soft
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No, I don't agree, some of the young people I have the privilege and pleasure to work with are a breath of fresh air and in my humble opinion the world is in good hands.
They are hard working, highly educated, open and honest.
Sadly, they don't make good media.
The industry I'm involved has far more women than at any time in my career, they bring exceptional skills as do the men, I never judge by anything but skill, interpersonal skills, laughter and honesty and the young people I'm around have it in barrow loads.
Good luck to them and the fantastic careers they have ahead of them.
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By *uke02Man 6 weeks ago
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I'm gonna be fully honest. I'm not a big fan of a lot of people my age at all. I find there is a lot of entitlement and a lack of respect nowadays. I find people my age are a bit too sensitive and get offended by everything and aren't as much craic either. Now that's probably me being negative and I'm not trying to be. But I find I get with people more that are a few years older than me. It's probably cause I'm the youngest in my family by 12 years but yeah that's my experience with the people growing up now. |
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By *appyPandaMan 6 weeks ago
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"No, not beyond climate and sustainability. They are the things that worry me.
Society is ever evolving. With each generation comes more tolerance and an erosion of the entrenched views that generations that came before appear to cling to. It's rare you'll hear a young person espouse the idea that you can't say anything these days"
Agreed, and to ask about worries of the future without talking climate or the ecological crisis we're in is naive to the extreme.
It's going to dominate so much of how we try to organise or live our lives.
I don't blame folk for distrusting the self serving career politicians that fly to COP meetings or the political class that flock to Davos all trying to figure out how to maintain their control over the system, but that doesn't mean this isn't happening.
We'll see major increases in population movement as more areas become more inhospitable, more crop failures between soil erosion from intensive farming and conditions not being stable enough for the crops anymore as well as possible conflicts over water sources as well as other resources like rare earth minerals. That's saying nothing for the extinctions between conditions changing too fast for species and ecosystems which are already in major decline to adapt to and ocean acidification.
There's no happy ending under mankind's current trajectory, just different levels of fucked, where those suffering earliest and worst are the poor and least responsible. We need to try ensure the situation is one of the less fucked ones and less controlled by a select rich minority.
Complaining that "people were mean to me because I said something some people thought was offensive" just seems laughably childish to me.
I'm well aware some people can get too sensitive now and the internet has in many ways allowed us to become trapped in reaffirming echo chambers where group think and identity has in some way made divisions worse, but we have far far greater issues to worry about. |
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Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids |
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By *appyPandaMan 6 weeks ago
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"Like the war between Israel and Iran?"
Oh definitely, as well as knowing how much investment AI military and surveillance tech is getting, which as global and regional instability increases as we come closer to very likely societal breakdowns due to so many factors (and not just due to real world causes like climate and ecological loss, but also problems within society like increasing inequality, cost of living, diminishing marginal returns and our concept of money becoming utterly distorted by an economic system dependant on debt that prioritises unfathomable immaterial and arguably imaginary amounts of money over real world values that normal people deal with), there'll be those in power very motivated to ensure they're in control as long as possible, regardless of how many suffer or how many die. |
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids"
We've more in common with struggling, displaced people than we do with the billionaires who caused these problems and now fan the flames to divide us. The 1% want us to be fighting each other so we don't invade their private islands or disturb their very important spaceship plans.  |
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By *appyPandaMan 6 weeks ago
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids"
And so sorry to hear you're all in that situation and hope something comes along. So many stuck in that situation and know a good few in similar situations where it doesn't seem there's any work on actually dealing with these problems just getting worse and worse as working people get pushed further and further down. |
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
We've more in common with struggling, displaced people than we do with the billionaires who caused these problems and now fan the flames to divide us. The 1% want us to be fighting each other so we don't invade their private islands or disturb their very important spaceship plans. "
Interesting that to be in the global 1% bracket you only have to earn $32k a year. So it’s more like the 0.01% |
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By *appyPandaMan 6 weeks ago
Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun |
"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
We've more in common with struggling, displaced people than we do with the billionaires who caused these problems and now fan the flames to divide us. The 1% want us to be fighting each other so we don't invade their private islands or disturb their very important spaceship plans. "
Exactly. Can't tell how much is coincidental and how much has been orchestrated or at least urged along, but seems suspicious that we've become so divided since the financial crash of 2008 where movements like Occupy Wall street sprang up all over the world.
Of course it could be purely coincidental or due to things like how we weren't ready as a species for how much the internet could change us and have us become trapped in echochambers that get increasingly separated from each other, but is very very convenient to have the poor constantly distracted fighting amongst itself over culture wars and the ilk than to recognise they're being screwed and need to fight a class war instead. |
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By *og-ManMan 6 weeks ago
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids"
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would |
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would "
Given that there’s more vacant properties than homeless people, the problem is not with IPAS.
I worry about the climate issue and the rise of the far right and bigots. The world is not a pleasant place at the moment. |
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would
Given that there’s more vacant properties than homeless people, the problem is not with IPAS.
I worry about the climate issue and the rise of the far right and bigots. The world is not a pleasant place at the moment. "
You are just proving the OP right, you can't speak about anything as there is always someone ready with the dumb insults for anyone who dares disagree. |
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By *azarMan 6 weeks ago
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would
Given that there’s more vacant properties than homeless people, the problem is not with IPAS.
I worry about the climate issue and the rise of the far right and bigots. The world is not a pleasant place at the moment.
You are just proving the OP right, you can't speak about anything as there is always someone ready with the dumb insults for anyone who dares disagree. "
where are the dumb insults?
Just other opinions that have been stated.
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would "
How much did the government recently spend on buying that hotel for housing ipas applicants? Just saying it gives off a vibe that they don't care about the next generation, and its true as most of my age group have jumped ship overseas |
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Call me naive, but I do feel the world is like a pressure cooker ready to explode. .
Peoples views and opinions have become aggressive, bigoted, and that is what I see daily at local level not just online. There is a horrible lack of acceptance of anyone that is seen to be different. People feel that its their right to shout their opinion as loud as they can regardless of the hurt they cause. We can't say well I just avoid people like that as its impossible unless you shut yourself away and bury your head in the sand. I do feel we need to stand together and say enough is enough but seeing what is going on in the States and in our own country makes for a scary realisation that this is going to cost lives. We live in a very uncertain world and what the future holds for the next generation is a scary thought.
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By *og-ManMan 6 weeks ago
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would
How much did the government recently spend on buying that hotel for housing ipas applicants? Just saying it gives off a vibe that they don't care about the next generation, and its true as most of my age group have jumped ship overseas"
The amount they paid is still less that what they've spend on the same hotel over the last 5 years to rent it
If it wasn't used as a IPA centre it would still be a hotel so not used for homeless people
The people protesting about these centres would be the first to object to social housing or hostels for single homeless men
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would
How much did the government recently spend on buying that hotel for housing ipas applicants? Just saying it gives off a vibe that they don't care about the next generation, and its true as most of my age group have jumped ship overseas
The amount they paid is still less that what they've spend on the same hotel over the last 5 years to rent it
If it wasn't used as a IPA centre it would still be a hotel so not used for homeless people
The people protesting about these centres would be the first to object to social housing or hostels for single homeless men
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Exactly my point they wouldn't do it for themselves, they've no problem spending that sort of money for single males from whatever country to live comfortably, and I don't know what to say about your last comment it just baffles me |
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By *og-ManMan 6 weeks ago
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I don't know what to say about your last comment it just baffles me
It just means that anytime anyone applies to build social housing then the local residents are usually the first to object
Usually along the lines of it will either devalue their houses or there's no schools or doctors in the area
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I've had two petitions at my door from the local residents association objecting to affordable housing projects in the area. There's plenty of room for them. All they are worried about is their property value.
Not everyone is a bigot or a racist. Sometimes they are just middle class assholes.
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"Some amount of lefties on here, the topic was about our future generations not about what we see now, for example I'm technically homeless with 2 kids, no where or nothing to rent that's affordable and building is not an option, seeing ipas applicants getting housed over born and bred Irish is what is the scary thing, if we can't find housing now how will my kids
Sorry to hear of your problems
But if we had no IPA in the country at all do you think it would make any difference to the homeless figures
I don't think it would
How much did the government recently spend on buying that hotel for housing ipas applicants? Just saying it gives off a vibe that they don't care about the next generation, and its true as most of my age group have jumped ship overseas"
There's a certain irony here... |
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Times were never simpler before. It’s just nostalgia that makes people think it was simpler.
If someone isn’t happy with some part of their life, examine how you can change it. And work towards it.
I remember the days of people calling to the house unannounced, it was a pain in the arse. |
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By *oo32Man 6 weeks ago
tipperary |
I know what cars my neighbours have and what jobs they do
Not one worry about any of that...
The left and the right and the middle need to stop shouting abuse at each other and the other people and work out what or who the problems are
The labour force seems to be gone...
Social media seems to hold sway over a lot of tbings,online...get off the interweb and go outside(I realise the irony of me saying this..online,but I'm on my break...
No respect for property or belongings
And...smile...say hello to people..
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Call me naive, but I do feel the world is like a pressure cooker ready to explode. .
Peoples views and opinions have become aggressive, bigoted, and that is what I see daily at local level not just online. There is a horrible lack of acceptance of anyone that is seen to be different. People feel that its their right to shout their opinion as loud as they can regardless of the hurt they cause. We can't say well I just avoid people like that as its impossible unless you shut yourself away and bury your head in the sand. I do feel we need to stand together and say enough is enough but seeing what is going on in the States and in our own country makes for a scary realisation that this is going to cost lives. We live in a very uncertain world and what the future holds for the next generation is a scary thought.
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The "World Economic Forum" are quite clear on this.. "You will own nothing and be happy" Klaus Schwab. The question we need to ask ourselves is, how do "they" (The World Economic Forum) intend to achieve this? |
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Call me naive, but I do feel the world is like a pressure cooker ready to explode. .
Peoples views and opinions have become aggressive, bigoted, and that is what I see daily at local level not just online. There is a horrible lack of acceptance of anyone that is seen to be different. People feel that its their right to shout their opinion as loud as they can regardless of the hurt they cause. We can't say well I just avoid people like that as its impossible unless you shut yourself away and bury your head in the sand. I do feel we need to stand together and say enough is enough but seeing what is going on in the States and in our own country makes for a scary realisation that this is going to cost lives. We live in a very uncertain world and what the future holds for the next generation is a scary thought.
The "World Economic Forum" are quite clear on this.. "You will own nothing and be happy" Klaus Schwab. The question we need to ask ourselves is, how do "they" (The World Economic Forum) intend to achieve this?"
I suspect the 2265 Billionaires on the planet are exempt! |
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By *appyPandaMan 6 weeks ago
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Call me naive, but I do feel the world is like a pressure cooker ready to explode. .
Peoples views and opinions have become aggressive, bigoted, and that is what I see daily at local level not just online. There is a horrible lack of acceptance of anyone that is seen to be different. People feel that its their right to shout their opinion as loud as they can regardless of the hurt they cause. We can't say well I just avoid people like that as its impossible unless you shut yourself away and bury your head in the sand. I do feel we need to stand together and say enough is enough but seeing what is going on in the States and in our own country makes for a scary realisation that this is going to cost lives. We live in a very uncertain world and what the future holds for the next generation is a scary thought.
The "World Economic Forum" are quite clear on this.. "You will own nothing and be happy" Klaus Schwab. The question we need to ask ourselves is, how do "they" (The World Economic Forum) intend to achieve this?
I suspect the 2265 Billionaires on the planet are exempt!"
Oh definitely. Still allowed their private jets and everything, where priority is going to be how do they stay on top no matter what happens.
Just a reminder that eating one billionaire would do more for the environment than 10,000 people going vegan, especially when it comes to how much sway they have in how our political and economic systems are run.
Personal carbon footprint was a term that originated with BP to focus the populace on their own small scale effects while distracting them from the fact that it's large companies and the ultra rich that are much more responsible.
Same happened with plastic recycling where the petrochemical industry knew decades ago that we would never have the capacity to deal with the amount of plastic they wanted to sell, but spent a huge amount on marketing it as recyclable just because technically it could be even if it wouldn't, shifting the burden into the consumer.
And now we have plastic everywhere, as well as embedded in us with micro and nano plastic contaminating our bodies and being found in our brains, testes and the placentas of pregnant women. |
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