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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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No its not a worse arse thread...(mind you I could name a few  )
Why write/say 'sorry but' before you comment? Surely if you need to apologise before you make your comment you know its going to offend or upset??
'Tbh' is another one. Are you saying your not always honest!!!
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"No its not a worse arse thread...(mind you I could name a few )
Why write/say 'sorry but' before you comment? Surely if you need to apologise before you make your comment you know its going to offend or upset??
'Tbh' is another one. Are you saying your not always honest!!!
Also the I'm only just saying thing bugs me.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would imagine its a preemptive apology incase anyone takes offence to the forthcoming opinion expressed.
Why be sorry about your own opinion??"
I'd always be apologetic if my opinion hurt someone,not be mistaken with offending someone tho |
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Well sorry to say lol. On the forums one remark can upset a few then its a witch hunting party. Opinions are like arse holes and every one has one. Tbh lol if people where a little more thick skinned this place would be a lot better.  |
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over a year ago
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer"
I prefer the "are you for real. I wouldn't ride ya into battle" approach |
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer
I prefer the "are you for real. I wouldn't ride ya into battle" approach "
haha! I'm just too nice!!  |
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I would imagine its a preemptive apology incase anyone takes offence to the forthcoming opinion expressed.
Why be sorry about your own opinion??
I'd always be apologetic if my opinion hurt someone,not be mistaken with offending someone tho "
Before you said it or after? |
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer
To you or to the receiver? "
Kim, you're being quite confrontational today I think.
Maybe, I should say 'sorry but you're quite confrontational today' lol |
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"I would imagine its a preemptive apology incase anyone takes offence to the forthcoming opinion expressed.
Why be sorry about your own opinion??
I'd always be apologetic if my opinion hurt someone,not be mistaken with offending someone tho
Before you said it or after?"
Preemptively,it would be impossible to be apologetic before as I wouldn't know if I hurt someone,so preemptive just in case.As someone else here said,it's just nice |
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer
To you or to the receiver?
Kim, you're being quite confrontational today I think.
Maybe, I should say 'sorry but you're quite confrontational today' lol"
No need for sugar coating with me sweet..
How is this confrontational? Explain I'm curious. |
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer
To you or to the receiver?
Kim, you're being quite confrontational today I think.
Maybe, I should say 'sorry but you're quite confrontational today' lol
No need for sugar coating with me sweet..
How is this confrontational? Explain I'm curious. "
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I would imagine its a preemptive apology incase anyone takes offence to the forthcoming opinion expressed.
Why be sorry about your own opinion??
I'd always be apologetic if my opinion hurt someone,not be mistaken with offending someone tho
Before you said it or after?
Preemptively,it would be impossible to be apologetic before as I wouldn't know if I hurt someone,so preemptive just in case.As someone else here said,it's just nice"
How so? If your opinion disagrees with someone saying sorry doesn't change it. |
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when someone gives an answer you keep on questioning it and I find this confrontational.
I have no problem with a good discussion but sometimes you just have to respect people's opinion. That doesn't mean you agree with them.
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer
To you or to the receiver?
Kim, you're being quite confrontational today I think.
Maybe, I should say 'sorry but you're quite confrontational today' lol"
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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""Sorry but you're not what I'm looking for"
"You're not what I'm looking for"
.... just sounds nicer
To you or to the receiver?
Kim, you're being quite confrontational today I think.
Maybe, I should say 'sorry but you're quite confrontational today' lol
No need for sugar coating with me sweet..
How is this confrontational? Explain I'm curious.
I think ya need a hug there"
No hug needed here thanks. |
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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"when someone gives an answer you keep on questioning it and I find this confrontational.
I have no problem with a good discussion but sometimes you just have to respect people's opinion. That doesn't mean you agree with them.
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I'm not disagreeing. Where have I disagreed. I'm just asking. I do respect other people's opinion but what is wrong with asking why they think that way? I call that a discussion. |
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on a serious note , i really don't think when people type certain words that they mean exactly that, they are almost turns of phrases if that makes sense, i would say sorry but and tbh without even thinkin about it really, it's part of how i form sentences, hope that makes sense. |
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"I would imagine its a preemptive apology incase anyone takes offence to the forthcoming opinion expressed.
Why be sorry about your own opinion??
I'd always be apologetic if my opinion hurt someone,not be mistaken with offending someone tho
Before you said it or after?
Preemptively,it would be impossible to be apologetic before as I wouldn't know if I hurt someone,so preemptive just in case.As someone else here said,it's just nice
How so? If your opinion disagrees with someone saying sorry doesn't change it."
I said if it hurts someone,not whether they disagree I never said that.As in an opinion given freely as opposed to countering another's.It would be incredibly narcissistic to freely express an opinion and not care at all about hurting somebody,hence the preemptive "sorry"
And sorry but,tbh its quite clear you're either not reading properly or misinterpreting what I'm saying and that there is a hint of confrontation being expressed in the thread in general.There are better ways to spend a beautiful Saturday Afternoon....tbh |
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"when someone gives an answer you keep on questioning it and I find this confrontational.
I have no problem with a good discussion but sometimes you just have to respect people's opinion. That doesn't mean you agree with them.
I'm not disagreeing. Where have I disagreed. I'm just asking. I do respect other people's opinion but what is wrong with asking why they think that way? I call that a discussion. "
I'm saying how it comes across to me, reading it. No worries, maybe it's a misunderstanding. |
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Well sorry to say lol. On the forums one remark can upset a few then its a witch hunting party. Opinions are like arse holes and every one has one. Tbh lol if people where a little more thick skinned this place would be a lot better. "
I think your correct. Not just about opinions. Seemingly asking questions is confrontational. Curious as to how others think is now apparently insulting whereas I would call it flattering, someone showing an interest in how or why you think a certain way. |
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"Well sorry to say lol. On the forums one remark can upset a few then its a witch hunting party. Opinions are like arse holes and every one has one. Tbh lol if people where a little more thick skinned this place would be a lot better.
I think your correct. Not just about opinions. Seemingly asking questions is confrontational. Curious as to how others think is now apparently insulting whereas I would call it flattering, someone showing an interest in how or why you think a certain way. "
Ah c'mon! You're not much better, because I'm not allowed to say how your post has come across to me. You don't seem to be that thick skinned either. I said if it may be a misunderstanding. They happen on here, you should know that.
Maybe see it as feedback. Would it be possible that you could improve the way you write your questions?
Again, maybe it's just me being too sensitive and don't have a thick skin enough. Maybe I'm still too foreign and don't understand your way of having a discussion.
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By *imwild OP Woman
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"Well sorry to say lol. On the forums one remark can upset a few then its a witch hunting party. Opinions are like arse holes and every one has one. Tbh lol if people where a little more thick skinned this place would be a lot better.
I think your correct. Not just about opinions. Seemingly asking questions is confrontational. Curious as to how others think is now apparently insulting whereas I would call it flattering, someone showing an interest in how or why you think a certain way.
Ah c'mon! You're not much better, because I'm not allowed to say how your post has come across to me. You don't seem to be that thick skinned either. I said if it may be a misunderstanding. They happen on here, you should know that.
Maybe see it as feedback. Would it be possible that you could improve the way you write your questions?
Again, maybe it's just me being too sensitive and don't have a thick skin enough. Maybe I'm still too foreign and don't understand your way of having a discussion.
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Sweetwhispers I missed your post about misunderstanding.
Again your entitled to your opinion and i welcome it. Maybe it is how I ask a question or maybe its how its read. I have no reason to argue with anyone on here. Why being foreign has anything to do with it I really don't know. |
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Not sure on this theory but maybe it's an Irish thing Kim, I remember when Mr first moved here from England & people would say 'sorry' instead of 'excuse me' to him. It used to catch him every time, he'd be like 'what for?' EVERY time. |
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As a foreign person i agree with sweet, different cultures, the fact that english is not our mother tongue, it creates more misunderstandings, i take up things wrong sometimes  |
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Not sure on this theory but maybe it's an Irish thing Kim, I remember when Mr first moved here from England & people would say 'sorry' instead of 'excuse me' to him. It used to catch him every time, he'd be like 'what for?' EVERY time."
That's exactly it. |
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"As a foreign person i agree with sweet, different cultures, the fact that english is not our mother tongue, it creates more misunderstandings, i take up things wrong sometimes "
That's it, Enna explains it much more eloquently than me. |
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By *imwild OP Woman
over a year ago
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I will apologise if anyone thought for one reason I was being confrontational. It was something I noticed a lot and I was only curious to why people say 'sorry but' and 'tbh' because they are not terms I use.
As someone else has said there are better things to be doing on this Saturday afternoon so enjoy. |
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I think it us a cultural thing saying sorry over here, I remember being taught even if someone bumped into you, you would say sorry. It's only as I've got older that I thought hey why I'm I saying sorry it's not my fault. And I think it's the same here, people use sorry and Tbh sub consciously |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"I think it us a cultural thing saying sorry over here, I remember being taught even if someone bumped into you, you would say sorry. It's only as I've got older that I thought hey why I'm I saying sorry it's not my fault. And I think it's the same here, people use sorry and Tbh sub consciously"
this is true not only of other cultures interpretation of ours but also a west,north ,south and east thing within the country some things we say in the mid west mean something totally different in the north east |
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"I think it us a cultural thing saying sorry over here, I remember being taught even if someone bumped into you, you would say sorry. It's only as I've got older that I thought hey why I'm I saying sorry it's not my fault. And I think it's the same here, people use sorry and Tbh sub consciously"
This is so true, I spent a bit of time in Spain and learnt a bit of the language. Speaking to a Spanish man and I didn't understand him, so I replied lo siento no entiendo, which translates as I'm sorry I don't understand. To me this was the correct response but he laughed at me and told me to just say que, which translates as what, as the Spanish would find my phrase very formal and strange. |
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He was right but if you were to speak to a stranger you would not say " que" ( what ) as you wouldn't here, with my friends or colleagues i use it but not with my customers or strangers
Funny enough the irish are super polite betwen themselves and always say excuse me and that while on the other side the italians and spanish are not as polite ha such a difference |
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"He was right but if you were to speak to a stranger you would not say " que" ( what ) as you wouldn't here, with my friends or colleagues i use it but not with my customers or strangers
Funny enough the irish are super polite betwen themselves and always say excuse me and that while on the other side the italians and spanish are not as polite ha such a difference "
He was someone I knew but not a friend, so yes I'd have still said sorry I didnt understand you, in English, but the Spanish are friendly just not that we'll mannered which you get used too. The use of gracias is rarely used, but in Ireland if you don't say thank you your rude. My point being is the Irish are generally brought up to be well mannered and it comes out in the way we say things sometimes |
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"He was right but if you were to speak to a stranger you would not say " que" ( what ) as you wouldn't here, with my friends or colleagues i use it but not with my customers or strangers "
What should we use informally Enna, 'pèrdon'? |
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"When i lived in Spain i did not realise it, but after 14 years here we spanish are fucking rude!!
Or maybe i have just become irish lol
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I a tally got used to it, it's just there way, they are the friendliest people ever, just no manners lol |
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"When i lived in Spain i did not realise it, but after 14 years here we spanish are fucking rude!!
Or maybe i have just become irish lol
I a tally got used to it, it's just there way, they are the friendliest people ever, just no manners lol "
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"Perdon or disculpe , one of the other is fine Candy , they both mean excuse me "
Gracias. Just one more when you have a minute....
Mr69 keeps asking me to say 'ay papi, más duro'.... |
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Lol!!! Te quiero is i love you!!
I did something like that to my ex, first visit to my family, only my sister speaks english,my parents had no clue, after dinner he wanted to say to my mum " the food was lovely " but me,being a bitch, told him to say " your tits are lovely "
Everybody laughed but my mom, and i have never seen my ex so red ha ha ha ha ha!!!! |
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I agree, the Irish have a much more polite language than on the continent. Not only that but they also know how to queue. Every time I go home it does my head in how much people jump the queue. |
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"No its not a worse arse thread...(mind you I could name a few )
Why write/say 'sorry but' before you comment? Surely if you need to apologise before you make your comment you know its going to offend or upset??
'Tbh' is another one. Are you saying your not always honest!!!
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There are certain words and phrases that we utter that position us to say something negative.
Little conversation movers that transition our conversation from innocent to something negative about someone else. It happens quickly. They are short statements, but can do great damage if you allow them to be a part of our regular vocabulary…for example
“Those people…”
I can’t remember a time I’ve heard positive words after the beginning of this sentence. As soon as we begin this sentence, we immediately place ourselves on a pedestal above whoever “those” are. This phrase quickly moves us to a point in the conversation where we’re not to blame, but can easily point the blame. Unless you’re talking about how much you love “those people,” its often best not to start a sentence this way. “Those people” aren’t around to defend themselves. They may never know you talked about them, but their reputation is already tainted because you or I chose to talk about them.
“Don’t repeat this, but…”
If someone told you something in private, you shouldn’t say it. I’ve heard so much of this lately. Don’t start a sentence this way. The reason we often do is because it means we have some kind of knowledge that we’re proud of and want to pass along. Beginning a sentence with “Don’t repeat this, but” makes us feel better that we repeated it. After all, we’re telling them to keep it quiet, right? Wrong. If we can’t keep our mouths shut, we should probably avoid hearing sentences that begin with, “I don’t want anyone else to know this, but..”
“I’m sorry, but…”
Often this is followed by something very quick that will be at variance with that the reciepient is hoping to hear. I believe if your going to apologise and mean it you would be better off preceding the apology by positioning yourself in the lead in to what makes you different. If you don’t qualify your apology with a reason why you said or did what you did, or think the way you think, then it isn’t really an apology.
There are many more words you can use that are softer and less harsh, you could perhaps say, “…, regrettably…” it suggests a sence of saddness on both sides for what will follow.  |
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"I agree, the Irish have a much more polite language than on the continent. Not only that but they also know how to queue. Every time I go home it does my head in how much people jump the queue. "
Ha ha totally get that, standing in Dia waiting and some old dear just walk in, in front of you and thinks nothing of it lol I found it amusing lol |
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"No its not a worse arse thread...(mind you I could name a few )
Why write/say 'sorry but' before you comment? Surely if you need to apologise before you make your comment you know its going to offend or upset??
'Tbh' is another one. Are you saying your not always honest!!!
There are certain words and phrases that we utter that position us to say something negative.
Little conversation movers that transition our conversation from innocent to something negative about someone else. It happens quickly. They are short statements, but can do great damage if you allow them to be a part of our regular vocabulary…for example
“Those people…”
I can’t remember a time I’ve heard positive words after the beginning of this sentence. As soon as we begin this sentence, we immediately place ourselves on a pedestal above whoever “those” are. This phrase quickly moves us to a point in the conversation where we’re not to blame, but can easily point the blame. Unless you’re talking about how much you love “those people,” its often best not to start a sentence this way. “Those people” aren’t around to defend themselves. They may never know you talked about them, but their reputation is already tainted because you or I chose to talk about them.
“Don’t repeat this, but…”
If someone told you something in private, you shouldn’t say it. I’ve heard so much of this lately. Don’t start a sentence this way. The reason we often do is because it means we have some kind of knowledge that we’re proud of and want to pass along. Beginning a sentence with “Don’t repeat this, but” makes us feel better that we repeated it. After all, we’re telling them to keep it quiet, right? Wrong. If we can’t keep our mouths shut, we should probably avoid hearing sentences that begin with, “I don’t want anyone else to know this, but..”
“I’m sorry, but…”
Often this is followed by something very quick that will be at variance with that the reciepient is hoping to hear. I believe if your going to apologise and mean it you would be better off preceding the apology by positioning yourself in the lead in to what makes you different. If you don’t qualify your apology with a reason why you said or did what you did, or think the way you think, then it isn’t really an apology.
There are many more words you can use that are softer and less harsh, you could perhaps say, “…, regrettably…” it suggests a sence of saddness on both sides for what will follow. "
I agree with you there.
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"Yeah they do it all the time, they say us young people have nothing else to do lol
Bitches, have had more than a fight there and on the bus stop!!"
To be honest, I don't mind when someone much older does that to me. I've been brought up to always make 'room' for the elderly. But when Joe or Jane Bloggs does it, teenagers etc.... oh no. Not having it haha |
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"Yeah they do it all the time, they say us young people have nothing else to do lol
Bitches, have had more than a fight there and on the bus stop!!
To be honest, I don't mind when someone much older does that to me. I've been brought up to always make 'room' for the elderly. But when Joe or Jane Bloggs does it, teenagers etc.... oh no. Not having it haha"
There's making room for us, and there's 'making room'
But thanks for giving up your seat for me that time we met!
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"Yeah they do it all the time, they say us young people have nothing else to do lol
Bitches, have had more than a fight there and on the bus stop!!
To be honest, I don't mind when someone much older does that to me. I've been brought up to always make 'room' for the elderly. But when Joe or Jane Bloggs does it, teenagers etc.... oh no. Not having it haha
There's making room for us, and there's 'making room'
But thanks for giving up your seat for me that time we met!
(Not a reference to anal by the way) "
you're very welcome oh ancient Fooey! I didn't even flinch when you stumbled of your zimmerframe! I'm good like that!
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"Yeah they do it all the time, they say us young people have nothing else to do lol
Bitches, have had more than a fight there and on the bus stop!!
To be honest, I don't mind when someone much older does that to me. I've been brought up to always make 'room' for the elderly. But when Joe or Jane Bloggs does it, teenagers etc.... oh no. Not having it haha
There's making room for us, and there's 'making room'
But thanks for giving up your seat for me that time we met!
(Not a reference to anal by the way)
you're very welcome oh ancient Fooey! I didn't even flinch when you stumbled of your zimmerframe! I'm good like that!
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