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By *aid back OP Man
over a year ago
by a lake with my rod out |
after coaching a lads soccer team for a number of years they are moving into tje senior leagues and myself and the other coach have decided to come out of retirement and be player managers. so I have a question anyone any tips on how to get match fit quick enough without or limiting the risk of injury iv to take it easy enough on my knee ? |
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"after coaching a lads soccer team for a number of years they are moving into tje senior leagues and myself and the other coach have decided to come out of retirement and be player managers. so I have a question anyone any tips on how to get match fit quick enough without or limiting the risk of injury iv to take it easy enough on my knee ?"
Best advice is to talk to a physio about it, they'll advise you on what you can and can't do after injuries, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Even a few games of 5 a side on the astro for couple weeks and some swimming which would me gental on the knee id imagin mate ... or as above a physo will have great advice |
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By *aid back OP Man
over a year ago
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"Start with 2 or 3 long lung busting training sessions and then get in a couple of friendly games.
Yea !!!
absolutely NOT this Laid "
yeah maybe if I was 20 lol. and not out of the game 15 years due to a pretty bad knee problem |
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Get yourself into the water as much as you can and push yourself as hard as you can Laid. Its the gentlest way to protect your knee while building your muscle on your legs. Its an all over work out.  |
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It really depends what level of fitness you are at now and injuries (whats the craic with the knee?)
Also what level you are aiming for?
For example the top over 35s division in Dublin is far tougher than any of the mid division stuff in regular leagues its riddled with ex LOI And semi pros |
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By *ean0001Man
over a year ago
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Start slow and build it up. Its the only way.
Rome not built in a day and it you rush it you end up injured and its game over.
I would imagine a multi approach training system would help with swim and bikework to build fitness without putting pressure on the knee, would be a good idea.
And get your diet and nutrition sorted, or again you going to run out of steam.
And good luck and enjoy it.. |
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"after coaching a lads soccer team for a number of years they are moving into tje senior leagues and myself and the other coach have decided to come out of retirement and be player managers. so I have a question anyone any tips on how to get match fit quick enough without or limiting the risk of injury iv to take it easy enough on my knee ?"
I see a sweeper role ... Strolling around at the back ala Pirlo ? (?  |
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First of all get a good Physio, ask them to do a programme to strengthen your knee..
To be anyways match fit, the hard yards have to be put in on the pitch, We do the magic square, 25x25 running at a steady pace for 7 minutes to start, during the 7 minutes when the whistle blows sprint a lenght of the square at full pace and slow it down into a jog, next whistle sprint two lengths and build it up until your sprinting round the square adding two minutes every time you do it... |
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By *aid back OP Man
over a year ago
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"It really depends what level of fitness you are at now and injuries (whats the craic with the knee?)
Also what level you are aiming for?
For example the top over 35s division in Dublin is far tougher than any of the mid division stuff in regular leagues its riddled with ex LOI And semi pros "
my current level of fitness is so so but I smoke like a chimney. I had to give up playing ages ago due to my knee grinding it sounds horrific but the pain has subsided in the past year iv built up my quads and calf muscles to take some of the strain off the knee.. iv played the odd game ov 35s a few years ago for the club. its a tough league ill not be lining out for them. I know ill not be playing every week but the odd 90 mins when the lads forget to turn up for a match |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Start slow and build it up. Its the only way.
Rome not built in a day and it you rush it you end up injured and its game over.
I would imagine a multi approach training system would help with swim and bikework to build fitness without putting pressure on the knee, would be a good idea.
And get your diet and nutrition sorted, or again you going to run out of steam.
And good luck and enjoy it.."
The water work will help the knee the bike not so much.
soccer is a unique sport re fitness ,each position can be targeted specifically for example yan molby and roy keane. Both midfielders, both brilliant at what they did, one was mister blobby and one was a muscle!!
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"First of all get a good Physio, ask them to do a programme to strengthen your knee..
To be anyways match fit, the hard yards have to be put in on the pitch, We do the magic square, 25x25 running at a steady pace for 7 minutes to start, during the 7 minutes when the whistle blows sprint a lenght of the square at full pace and slow it down into a jog, next whistle sprint two lengths and build it up until your sprinting round the square adding two minutes every time you do it... "
Agree with mistress do as much training as u can on the field as I went back playing rugby a couple of years ago and even though I was fit from running and the bike, I still had to build up fitness that was relevant to the position. Also had old knee injuries but found protein bar before training and shake after helped keep the knee pain free and recovered quickly. |
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"First of all get a good Physio, ask them to do a programme to strengthen your knee..
To be anyways match fit, the hard yards have to be put in on the pitch, We do the magic square, 25x25 running at a steady pace for 7 minutes to start, during the 7 minutes when the whistle blows sprint a lenght of the square at full pace and slow it down into a jog, next whistle sprint two lengths and build it up until your sprinting round the square adding two minutes every time you do it...
Agree with mistress do as much training as u can on the field as I went back playing rugby a couple of years ago and even though I was fit from running and the bike, I still had to build up fitness that was relevant to the position. Also had old knee injuries but found protein bar before training and shake after helped keep the knee pain free and recovered quickly. "
your lucky you could go back playing my shoulder injury and recent back injury prevents me from playing again  |
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"after coaching a lads soccer team for a number of years they are moving into tje senior leagues and myself and the other coach have decided to come out of retirement and be player managers. so I have a question anyone any tips on how to get match fit quick enough without or limiting the risk of injury iv to take it easy enough on my knee ?"
stick to being a manager it won't just be your knee that you will be having trouble with in the future...
I went back playing for a while and was getting knocks almost every time I played and they take longer to heal as well.
Anyway you don't want your body wrecked if ur planning on riding until u die...
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"Schmokes are bad and I'd be worried about your hamstring more than your knee. Get your cute arse to the physio xxx"
I said this at the start minus the cute arse bit  here's hoping he listens to you, I know I would for fear of a kick up the arse  |
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"Schmokes are bad and I'd be worried about your hamstring more than your knee. Get your cute arse to the physio xxx
I said this at the start minus the cute arse bit here's hoping he listens to you, I know I would for fear of a kick up the arse "
great minds think alike, obviously Lim |
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By *aid back OP Man
over a year ago
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"Schmokes are bad and I'd be worried about your hamstring more than your knee. Get your cute arse to the physio xxx
I said this at the start minus the cute arse bit here's hoping he listens to you, I know I would for fear of a kick up the arse
great minds think alike, obviously Lim "
there's a second part of that saying .... I think it goes and fools seldom differ pmsl |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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I am thinking a lot of water work laid like carrying the tray of water bottles and running in to the lads when the get a knock splash a bit on the injury and tell them run it off
But on a serious note as I said before goalie looks good leave the hard work to the young lads till u have the fitness required to not only last 90 mins on the field but also to prevent further injury
Notice I said 90 mins on the field I can imagine the comments I'd I left it at 90 mins |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Schmokes are bad and I'd be worried about your hamstring more than your knee. Get your cute arse to the physio xxx
I said this at the start minus the cute arse bit here's hoping he listens to you, I know I would for fear of a kick up the arse
great minds think alike, obviously Lim
there's a second part of that saying .... I think it goes and fools seldom differ pmsl"
right no more rubs for you   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm a huge fan of cycling rather than using the car unless it's necessary. Yes cycling can make your top end speed slower, but it will mean no impact and use of the quad muscles. Push yourself on the way home and use a phone app to keep tabs on your time/distance/speeds. Also if you reckon your quad is weak, work on the old pistol squats!
Other than that, just work hard and make sure to rest up properly: hot and cold showers, ice the knee, foam roller plenty of water etc etc! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Schmokes are bad and I'd be worried about your hamstring more than your knee. Get your cute arse to the physio xxx
I said this at the start minus the cute arse bit here's hoping he listens to you, I know I would for fear of a kick up the arse
great minds think alike, obviously Lim
there's a second part of that saying .... I think it goes and fools seldom differ pmsl"
Belles no fool |
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Just do what you would coach the kids to do.
If I was injured I would just go for runs/walks in the sea with weights on my back. I wouldn't swim id just walk and run. Sea stays shallow very far out would be handy.
If my knee allowed it I would do tabata on a bike as its quicker than running to get your cardio up.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It really depends what level of fitness you are at now and injuries (whats the craic with the knee?)
Also what level you are aiming for?
For example the top over 35s division in Dublin is far tougher than any of the mid division stuff in regular leagues its riddled with ex LOI And semi pros
my current level of fitness is so so but I smoke like a chimney. I had to give up playing ages ago due to my knee grinding it sounds horrific but the pain has subsided in the past year iv built up my quads and calf muscles to take some of the strain off the knee.. iv played the odd game ov 35s a few years ago for the club. its a tough league ill not be lining out for them. I know ill not be playing every week but the odd 90 mins when the lads forget to turn up for a match "
Fair enough then its a bit of endurance work and then focus on the short stuff, the usual... shuttles and square work, get involved in alot of 3v2 and 4v2 during pre-season
You are tall I assume knowing the approach here you played somewhere down the middle? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Give up smoking for a start !start slow And stretch and stretch again warm up properly ! A lot of injures can be avoided by proper stretching and warm ups . Google dynamic stretching . It wilol help u avoid injuries . Most of all enjoy ! |
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Yoga...yoga...yoga...Laid.
Go to a proper class, not just some old doll working from home. Make sure you choose an instructor that concentrates on the breathing exercises as well as the stretches.
Breathing and flexibility are the key.
No reason why you can't play well into your 50's....
And most importantly don't forget to enjoy it old boy...
Ollie |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Stay off the AstroTurf!!!!!
..laid..go out and jog then try and simulate movements at your own pace on your own..
..but..gradual build up..only thing..
Stay off the AstroTurf/3g/4g!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If I were you I'd get into the pool and swim loads and loads.as much of it underwater as possible.it'll do wonders for your lungs.avoid the astro turf like the plague-it's very hard on the knees and ankles.running on the sand would be a good way to ease yourself back in also. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Start with 2 or 3 long lung busting training sessions and then get in a couple of friendly games.
Yea !!!
absolutely NOT this Laid
yeah maybe if I was 20 lol. and not out of the game 15 years due to a pretty bad knee problem"
didn't know you were out that long. Once the physio gives the go ahead a slight increase in training load each week should work and then coming on as sub late in the games. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was told scout pacing is great to help build up fitness quick but not sure if its good for your knees. "
Cycling is great, better exercise for knees than jogging or running!!  |
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Don't even think about going back. The older the players the more aggressive they are in my experience. Too slow and fat to put in a decent tackle so they just lash out if they get in lashing out distance. You'll have some 16stone centre half halve you in half for hafters |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Think they may have a hell of a time cutting laid in half. He's not exactly small
I would agree with the swimming and cycling. Much easier for the knees then running. Just don't go killing yourself killing yourself. Kitty wouldn't like to see you with a oxygen tank and a bad hamstring next time we run into eachother |
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By *aid back OP Man
over a year ago
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physio booked for sat morning.
as for getting more aggressive as a player ages i was pretty aggressive when i was playing the center halves had there work cut out for them when i played up front.
i'll most likely be playing center mid or up front ( target man) or my least favorite position as keeper when we are stuck. |
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"physio booked for sat morning.
as for getting more aggressive as a player ages i was pretty aggressive when i was playing the center halves had there work cut out for them when i played up front.
i'll most likely be playing center mid or up front ( target man) or my least favorite position as keeper when we are stuck. "
Remember Laid as all us defenders know, it's always the keepers fault. ..fecks sake!!
Us older players aren't all dirty....well okay...only if you sleep with us...hehe |
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"Read Ray Wilkins biography. He moved down the leagues as he got older - said it was lethal"
That was what greeviesy said his greatest mistake was...to retire at the top....
I'm just in the pub after playing myself...The best bit... |
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