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"I know of at least one female Garda on here but no way would I give her name out.
It’s her profession and her livelihood
There's more than a few  "
Unless she can get rid of a few penalty points for me I couldnt care less what she does for a living  |
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"  just get a woman into roleplay how are you since sorry you had too block me gorgeous
Lmao I'm good . Hope u find what ye want "
its just a person I’d like too meet like nurses or soldiers I have seen been looked for |
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"I know of at least one female Garda on here but no way would I give her name out.
It’s her profession and her livelihood
There's more than a few
Unless she can get rid of a few penalty points for me I couldnt care less what she does for a living "
Well since Saint McCabe there is no discretion anymore and guards can no longer get anyone off anything or use their common sense . All being taken away from them and being turned into zero tolerance and in the long term it's the communities that will suffer as the personal touch of the local guards and the ability of the guards to apply a warning instead of fines and points is being eroded . Rant over lol . But yes there is plenty banners on here and fair play to them just like plenty soldiers and teachers and nurses and accountants . A collection of every profession |
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"I know of at least one female Garda on here but no way would I give her name out.
It’s her profession and her livelihood
There's more than a few
Unless she can get rid of a few penalty points for me I couldnt care less what she does for a living well I think the do great work and look very well I’d love too chat with one
Well since Saint McCabe there is no discretion anymore and guards can no longer get anyone off anything or use their common sense . All being taken away from them and being turned into zero tolerance and in the long term it's the communities that will suffer as the personal touch of the local guards and the ability of the guards to apply a warning instead of fines and points is being eroded . Rant over lol . But yes there is plenty banners on here and fair play to them just like plenty soldiers and teachers and nurses and accountants . A collection of every profession "
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"I know of at least one female Garda on here but no way would I give her name out.
It’s her profession and her livelihood
There's more than a few
Unless she can get rid of a few penalty points for me I couldnt care less what she does for a living
Well since Saint McCabe there is no discretion anymore and guards can no longer get anyone off anything or use their common sense . All being taken away from them and being turned into zero tolerance and in the long term it's the communities that will suffer as the personal touch of the local guards and the ability of the guards to apply a warning instead of fines and points is being eroded . Rant over lol . But yes there is plenty banners on here and fair play to them just like plenty soldiers and teachers and nurses and accountants . A collection of every profession "
Jazus I was joking....
But.....
No a Garda having personal discretion is open to abuse which is exactly what happened.
If someones idea of a garda having personal discretion is leaving their golfing buddy off a speeding fine then they do not share the same idea of community policing as I would.
I see loads of good work being done by Community Garda that hasnt been affected in the least by Mcabe.
Cuts in finance and personal ia a much bigger issue |
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"I know of at least one female Garda on here but no way would I give her name out.
It’s her profession and her livelihood
There's more than a few
Unless she can get rid of a few penalty points for me I couldnt care less what she does for a living id just love too chat too one think the are very sexy in uniform also be interesting too know what kind of underwear have on underneath it
Well since Saint McCabe there is no discretion anymore and guards can no longer get anyone off anything or use their common sense . All being taken away from them and being turned into zero tolerance and in the long term it's the communities that will suffer as the personal touch of the local guards and the ability of the guards to apply a warning instead of fines and points is being eroded . Rant over lol . But yes there is plenty banners on here and fair play to them just like plenty soldiers and teachers and nurses and accountants . A collection of every profession
Jazus I was joking....
But.....
No a Garda having personal discretion is open to abuse which is exactly what happened.
If someones idea of a garda having personal discretion is leaving their golfing buddy off a speeding fine then they do not share the same idea of community policing as I would.
I see loads of good work being done by Community Garda that hasnt been affected in the least by Mcabe.
Cuts in finance and personal ia a much bigger issue"
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That's not what happened at all. There was no abuse of the system by guards . There was issues with senior management who are of course aligned to politicians . And the effects of McCabe are widespread and causing serious issues now due to the force becoming overly beaurocratic now and audit after audit leading to more and more guards stuck behind desks .
The Guards were the envy of every police force in Europe due to their personal ability to be able to engage with communities . Hence one of the only police forces in the world unarmed . So if giving a warning to a decent person late for a hospital appointment instead of a ticket is abuse then it's a sad state of affairs . That's not abuse that's common sense and being fair . |
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"That's not what happened at all. There was no abuse of the system by guards . There was issues with senior management who are of course aligned to politicians . And the effects of McCabe are widespread and causing serious issues now due to the force becoming overly beaurocratic now and audit after audit leading to more and more guards stuck behind desks .
The Guards were the envy of every police force in Europe due to their personal ability to be able to engage with communities . Hence one of the only police forces in the world unarmed . So if giving a warning to a decent person late for a hospital appointment instead of a ticket is abuse then it's a sad state of affairs . That's not abuse that's common sense and being fair . "
A police force needs to be audited.
When you have checkpoints being recorded that never even took place. It doesnt matter at what level the rules are broken, proper procedures and checks protects the public and the force.
Lets take your scenario for a moment.. who checks the person is actually late for an appointment?
What speed os acceptable what wjat kind of apppintments? how do you ensure 1 or 2 poor Garda dont abuse it?
We have laws for a reason. |
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"That's not what happened at all. There was no abuse of the system by guards . There was issues with senior management who are of course aligned to politicians . And the effects of McCabe are widespread and causing serious issues now due to the force becoming overly beaurocratic now and audit after audit leading to more and more guards stuck behind desks .
The Guards were the envy of every police force in Europe due to their personal ability to be able to engage with communities . Hence one of the only police forces in the world unarmed . So if giving a warning to a decent person late for a hospital appointment instead of a ticket is abuse then it's a sad state of affairs . That's not abuse that's common sense and being fair .
A police force needs to be audited.
When you have checkpoints being recorded that never even took place. It doesnt matter at what level the rules are broken, proper procedures and checks protects the public and the force.
Lets take your scenario for a moment.. who checks the person is actually late for an appointment?
What speed os acceptable what wjat kind of apppintments? how do you ensure 1 or 2 poor Garda dont abuse it?
We have laws for a reason."
The guards have always since 1922 had the power of discretion . It's up to the individual guard to analyise the situation and make a judgement call. If you are advocating zero tolerance then in theory every single day of a week there is not a single person who doesn't commit some kind of offence . Laws that you might even know exist such as leaving keys in ignition of a running car , or smokey exhaust . There is extreme laws which arnt enforced for common sense . No one is against audits , I'm saying excessive audits . Saint McCabe wasn't doing his job yet no one was making issue of that . Amazing how everyone is suddenly an expert on policing and took him for his word and yet not one of them looked into his role in it and how he failed to supervise and how his poor leadership and ability to handle discipline issues actually led to situations getting worse .
Not all laws need to be enforced all the time . Do you want a situation like the states where people get fined for walking across the road . Is that Better is it ? |
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"That's not what happened at all. There was no abuse of the system by guards . There was issues with senior management who are of course aligned to politicians . And the effects of McCabe are widespread and causing serious issues now due to the force becoming overly beaurocratic now and audit after audit leading to more and more guards stuck behind desks .
The Guards were the envy of every police force in Europe due to their personal ability to be able to engage with communities . Hence one of the only police forces in the world unarmed . So if giving a warning to a decent person late for a hospital appointment instead of a ticket is abuse then it's a sad state of affairs . That's not abuse that's common sense and being fair .
A police force needs to be audited.
When you have checkpoints being recorded that never even took place. It doesnt matter at what level the rules are broken, proper procedures and checks protects the public and the force.
Lets take your scenario for a moment.. who checks the person is actually late for an appointment?
What speed os acceptable what wjat kind of apppintments? how do you ensure 1 or 2 poor Garda dont abuse it?
We have laws for a reason.
The guards have always since 1922 had the power of discretion . It's up to the individual guard to analyise the situation and make a judgement call. If you are advocating zero tolerance then in theory every single day of a week there is not a single person who doesn't commit some kind of offence . Laws that you might even know exist such as leaving keys in ignition of a running car , or smokey exhaust . There is extreme laws which arnt enforced for common sense . No one is against audits , I'm saying excessive audits . Saint McCabe wasn't doing his job yet no one was making issue of that . Amazing how everyone is suddenly an expert on policing and took him for his word and yet not one of them looked into his role in it and how he failed to supervise and how his poor leadership and ability to handle discipline issues actually led to situations getting worse .
Not all laws need to be enforced all the time . Do you want a situation like the states where people get fined for walking across the road . Is that Better is it ? "
But you just said it yourself the extreme laws still arent enforced so there is still an element of discretion. |
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You are saying that leads to abuse - I'm saying discretion is being eroded . By your way of thinking all laws should be rigorously enforced . We are not a police state. Our guards still have just about a handle on the communities but slowly that is being taken away . A few tickets being quashed was a small price to pay for cooperation of communities .
At the end of the day only in Ireland could this take down ministers and commissioners . Other police forces around the world were corrupt , taking bribes , murders, allowing drug dealing . In Ireland a few tickets were quashed . In the scheme of things it's fairly pathetic the ruckus that caused |
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