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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Jim'll Fix It.
How did I not see how creepy he was  "
Have you watched Louis Theroux's retrospective documentary about Savile which looks back on his first one?
He basically asks himself the same question. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Any of the carry on films. People get far too easily offended these days."
Oh myyy - how could anyone take offence to carry on films they were so bloody fabulous  ... but yep some would  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm fairly sure half of these shows,still get shown now."
Yeah, isn't there a channel called Dave that specialises in airing old programmes? Probably one or two others I imagine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jim'll Fix It.
How did I not see how creepy he was "
I think I always knew in the back of my mind he was creepy 
About 25yrs ago my sister had a creepy sex pest neighbour that we nicknamed Jimmy Saville.
Ralph Harris always gave me the heeby jeebies too |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"I've recently re-watched some old Harry Enfield shows from the mid-late 90s and there was a lot in them that wouldn't be acceptable now
Please share what offended you ?"
I didn't say it offended me personally, I'm adult enough to be able to distinguish between what may have been acceptable at one time that is not generally considered acceptable now and hold my own counsel as to whether I find it funny or not - some of it just wasn't funny at all, not necessarily because of acceptability but because it plain wasn't funny for whatever reason.
Many of the programmes listed on this thread would be the same - acceptability is as much about the person viewing it as it is the content of the programme - some programmes are seen with a nostalgic air and almost funny in a different way than they were originally conceived - as a good example caught the end of one of the On The Buses films last weekend that was funny because of the ridiculousness of two middle aged "lotharios" in Stan and Jack chasing "dolly birds" in an almost seaside saucy postcard way.
Programmes like Mind Your Language or Love Thy Neighbour which played on every stereotype going and highlighted them to the extreme just aren't funny in any way. |
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The 2 Ronnies sketch where they did Top of the Pops & they blacked up as Steamy Winders singing I just called to read you meter & Big Momma singing I'm blacker than a black eyed pea.
Can't see that on ever seeing the light of day again! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I bet they wouldn’t even get away with Gimme Gimme Gimme now! "
They didn't get away with it then
It got absolutely slated in the press, moreso the gay press
Viewers loved it though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I bet they wouldn’t even get away with Gimme Gimme Gimme now!
They didn't get away with it then
It got absolutely slated in the press, moreso the gay press
Viewers loved it though "
It comes with a warning on iPlayer now lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I bet they wouldn’t even get away with Gimme Gimme Gimme now!
They didn't get away with it then
It got absolutely slated in the press, moreso the gay press
Viewers loved it though
It comes with a warning on iPlayer now lol"
Kathy Burke getting her award for playing Linda
Best acceptance speech ever
https://youtu.be/huayAma6y0Y |
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"I bet they wouldn’t even get away with Gimme Gimme Gimme now!
They didn't get away with it then
It got absolutely slated in the press, moreso the gay press
Viewers loved it though
It comes with a warning on iPlayer now lol
Kathy Burke getting her award for playing Linda
Best acceptance speech ever
https://youtu.be/huayAma6y0Y"
I've just watched it , hahaha fuckin awesome . Love that woman  |
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"Let's lock all of those old shows up and pretend they never existed. Change history maybe ."
Or, you know, acknowledge they no longer reflect moral values in our society and learn from them?
I presume you were bleating on about protecting statues that glorify [a word I'm not apparently allowed to type] last year too? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Rastamouse
Someone would complain
Me and my kid loved Rastamouse
Have you shown them the rastamouse.com website "
I haven’t and I feel like this is something I should know about |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I bet they wouldn’t even get away with Gimme Gimme Gimme now!
They didn't get away with it then
It got absolutely slated in the press, moreso the gay press
Viewers loved it though
It comes with a warning on iPlayer now lol
Kathy Burke getting her award for playing Linda
Best acceptance speech ever
https://youtu.be/huayAma6y0Y"
That was funny  |
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Alf Garnett was written by Johnny Speight, he wrote the character to be disliked and that his attitude and views were old fashioned and wrong. He even made him a Tory and was happy he was played by a Jewish actor.
Admittedly it was lost on some of the audience that agreed with Alf’s views, but not the majority who saw the clever writing and the way Alf Garnett was always brought to task over his prejudices.
If anything this is one of the programmes I’d be happy to bring back. As I think a modern audience would get the joke and see Alf as the character Johnny wrote, totally wrong in his views and as an idiot. |
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By *lipy123TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Alf Garnett was written by Johnny Speight, he wrote the character to be disliked and that his attitude and views were old fashioned and wrong. He even made him a Tory and was happy he was played by a Jewish actor.
Admittedly it was lost on some of the audience that agreed with Alf’s views, but not the majority who saw the clever writing and the way Alf Garnett was always brought to task over his prejudices.
If anything this is one of the programmes I’d be happy to bring back. As I think a modern audience would get the joke and see Alf as the character Johnny wrote, totally wrong in his views and as an idiot. "
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A fair bit of the two Ronnie's stuff.
Used black face a fair bit.
However a lot of the younger people saying that certain shows should never be brought back forget at the time most of these shows where"of the time" it doesn't excuse racist and homophobic stuff but certainly was seen as accepted then.
For example
Some mothers do have em.
Clearly laugh's at the expense of someone who today would definitely be seen as vulnerable,yet at the time was one of the biggest shows around.
Funny?
No I hated it, popular yes.
Would it be made today NO.
There was a massive change in direction of humour in the early 80's with the alternative comedy springing up.
Not the nine o'clock news,
Friday night live, the young ones, Ben Elton and the like changed the face of comedy taking it away from the oooerr Mrs, let's all have a joke at the " darkie" and "poofs" stuff that was rife and pretty much all that there was.
To politics and anarchical stuff.
Relevant at the time.
"Loads of Money"
But think recently how many shows have been made that have been extremely popular and not PC.
Inbetweeners, Derek and so on.
I'm glad alot of these shows have been put away in storage and hopefully will never see the light of day again, but they shouldn't be forgotten as we must learn from them.
Sadly I do think the pendulum is swinging too far in the other direction now with comedy becoming sterile and too PC.
Too many shows are being produced now just to tick a box.
Intelligent,edgy, please
Crass and insensitive no thanks. |
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"A fair bit of the two Ronnie's stuff.
Used black face a fair bit.
However a lot of the younger people saying that certain shows should never be brought back forget at the time most of these shows where"of the time" it doesn't excuse racist and homophobic stuff but certainly was seen as accepted then.
For example
Some mothers do have em.
Clearly laugh's at the expense of someone who today would definitely be seen as vulnerable,yet at the time was one of the biggest shows around.
Funny?
No I hated it, popular yes.
Would it be made today NO.
There was a massive change in direction of humour in the early 80's with the alternative comedy springing up.
Not the nine o'clock news,
Friday night live, the young ones, Ben Elton and the like changed the face of comedy taking it away from the oooerr Mrs, let's all have a joke at the " darkie" and "poofs" stuff that was rife and pretty much all that there was.
To politics and anarchical stuff.
Relevant at the time.
"Loads of Money"
But think recently how many shows have been made that have been extremely popular and not PC.
Inbetweeners, Derek and so on.
I'm glad alot of these shows have been put away in storage and hopefully will never see the light of day again, but they shouldn't be forgotten as we must learn from them.
Sadly I do think the pendulum is swinging too far in the other direction now with comedy becoming sterile and too PC.
Too many shows are being produced now just to tick a box.
Intelligent,edgy, please
Crass and insensitive no thanks."
Fair comment and this is why people rejected the Labour party and what it stands for today.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Jim'll Fix It.
How did I not see how creepy he was "
He scared the bejesus out of me as kid (no idea why). I remember my sister saying she had written in to Jim’ll Fix It; was terrified it may get chosen |
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"Alf Garnett was written by Johnny Speight, he wrote the character to be disliked and that his attitude and views were old fashioned and wrong. He even made him a Tory and was happy he was played by a Jewish actor.
Admittedly it was lost on some of the audience that agreed with Alf’s views, but not the majority who saw the clever writing and the way Alf Garnett was always brought to task over his prejudices.
If anything this is one of the programmes I’d be happy to bring back. As I think a modern audience would get the joke and see Alf as the character Johnny wrote, totally wrong in his views and as an idiot. "
I think this angle is interesting. Well aware of Warren Mitchell's position etc. But there's also "Love Thy Neighbour" which tried to use the same justification, but watching some of it, it just looks abhorrently racist to me. Sure the racist white guy is also pathetic and petty but there will have been so many people admiring thin regardless.
Hard to know where the line should be drawn with that sort of thing. If people don't see the irony, they take a justification of hatred and bigotry from it, no matter what the writers (say they..?) meant. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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When I worked in London about 6 years ago I used to go to the secret comedy club, surprised they got away with it as nothing at all was off limits , people would regular walk out in disgust ! There was a guy there once of X factor with learning disabilities telling jokes about pedos, muslins and Down’s syndrome....he was very funny |
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"The Black and White Minstrel Show was appalling.
In decades to come, EastEnders will be slated for its portrayal of lower working class British cultural norms."
The singing and the dancing was excellent though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I remember there was a panel of disabled commentating on the Paralympics and often they made fun of the disabilities.
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Wasn't this where the last leg on channel 4 came from? That's still going... |
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"Alf Garnett was written by Johnny Speight, he wrote the character to be disliked and that his attitude and views were old fashioned and wrong. He even made him a Tory and was happy he was played by a Jewish actor.
Admittedly it was lost on some of the audience that agreed with Alf’s views, but not the majority who saw the clever writing and the way Alf Garnett was always brought to task over his prejudices.
If anything this is one of the programmes I’d be happy to bring back. As I think a modern audience would get the joke and see Alf as the character Johnny wrote, totally wrong in his views and as an idiot.
I think this angle is interesting. Well aware of Warren Mitchell's position etc. But there's also "Love Thy Neighbour" which tried to use the same justification, but watching some of it, it just looks abhorrently racist to me. Sure the racist white guy is also pathetic and petty but there will have been so many people admiring thin regardless.
Hard to know where the line should be drawn with that sort of thing. If people don't see the irony, they take a justification of hatred and bigotry from it, no matter what the writers (say they..?) meant. "
I haven’t watched an episode of love thy neighbour for quite some time but I do recall both of the wife’s come out of it as being reasonable and the men as bad as each other.
So in some cases just like the women in Sickness and Health as his Daughter was a progressive thinker, these programmes actually show women in a good light as well. So they’re not all bad.
I suppose these programmes should be seen for what they are, a reflection of how people thought and were open about their prejudices at the time. Just because we find especially the language distasteful they also show how far we have come as a society that we no longer think those ideas or beliefs are acceptable anymore. |
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"Quite a few of the sketches from Fast Show would probably be a little iffy on tv now, things like the Suit You sketches I can’t see going down well "
What's wrong with the suit you sketches..
Genuinely puzzled ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quite a few of the sketches from Fast Show would probably be a little iffy on tv now, things like the Suit You sketches I can’t see going down well
What's wrong with the suit you sketches..
Genuinely puzzled ?"
Maybe it’s how I remember it growing up but I could see a lot of people getting offended at all the sexual humour in it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Jim'll Fix It.
How did I not see how creepy he was
Have you watched Louis Theroux's retrospective documentary about Savile which looks back on his first one?
He basically asks himself the same question. "
Have you not noticed how creepy Louis Theroux is ?  |
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"Clive James used to show clips from a Japanese game show called Endurance I believe. The West would not make that show then, so they would definitely not make it now. "
Didn’t they make an Endurance UK with Paul Ross and two Japanese looking guys called Hokey Nd Cokey ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Alot still would.
Have you watched family guy? American dad? Anything by sasha baron cohen?
Some pretty fucked up shit still gets shown tbh
Tell me a programme that is old that covered anything the above havnt in modern time tv? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jim'll Fix It.
How did I not see how creepy he was "
If you watch the 'Creation' film about Alan McGee, there's a scene where he goes to Chequers to see Tony Blair & Saville is there too. Makes a statement about how there's no way folk, including Blair, could not have known what he was up to... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Alot still would.
Have you watched family guy? American dad? Anything by sasha baron cohen?
Some pretty fucked up shit still gets shown tbh
Tell me a programme that is old that covered anything the above havnt in modern time tv?"
Yeah i am surprised there has not been a twitter outrage about some of the jokes on Family Guy tbh |
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"Apparently campaigners are objecting to the prince kissing sleeping beauty because she was in a coma and therefore there was no consent..."
Well in the original folk tale version (brothers grimm i think) she is dead and the prince indulges in a bit of necrophilia... Disney didn't put that on the screen! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I should think Life of Brian
Religious freedoms are sometimes rediculed in some quarters, but millions of people believe in their god.
Yes the idea of religious tolerance is great, but I'm not so sure about the idea of religious satire. |
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There were many programmes that were simply unacceptable today as they were offensive BUT there were a lot that were good and some programmes were more liberated and less stuffy and less prudish in its content than today. |
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By *ewfie02Couple
over a year ago
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"Jim'll Fix It. "
I knew him in the 1980's. Used to go running with him occasionally when he was visiting my families health farm. He used to try and impress me with stories about having sex with young girls on his long distance running challenges. I didn't believe him! I didn't like him but I was made to go running with him. |
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I wonder why many so called comedians just revert to saying a swear word to get a laugh. They are actually not allowed to tell a joke unless it offends someone. Easier just to say 'Fuck' and lots of canned laughter follows |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
Fareham |
I am a fan of the origin Blackadder- The BlackAdder.
In the episode The Archbishop Prince Harry discusses the strange death of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
He says “what am I going to tell his catamite”.
One that slipped passed the censors to this day and a good dig at the church. |
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Superstars
The millionaire sports people's agents would want big sums of money and/or their agents wouldn't let them risk getting a little scratch these days
Great programme that I'd love to see back on |
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"What a fucked up modern world it is today. People taking offence at the slightest thing. Have you noticed that all the adverts on tv have to feature multi racial families? "
And that’s a bad thing ?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jim'll Fix It.
How did I not see how creepy he was "
He always weirded me out, never understood why, but I still wanted to go on n get stuff fixed lol... I never wrote in though |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Probably wouldn't get away with TISWAS now, sad really as it was brilliant, harmless fun..
Unless you had ears that could be used to levitate you, might smart a bit.... |
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"What a fucked up modern world it is today. People taking offence at the slightest thing. Have you noticed that all the adverts on tv have to feature multi racial families? "
Yeah only white people should be allowed on the tele
Its pc gone mad |
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"I wonder why many so called comedians just revert to saying a swear word to get a laugh. They are actually not allowed to tell a joke unless it offends someone. Easier just to say 'Fuck' and lots of canned laughter follows"
I suggest you go and watch frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr Thomas |
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"Jim'll Fix It.
I knew him in the 1980's. Used to go running with him occasionally when he was visiting my families health farm. He used to try and impress me with stories about having sex with young girls on his long distance running challenges. I didn't believe him! I didn't like him but I was made to go running with him. "
Erm.... |
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By *ot kevinMan
over a year ago
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"Love thy neighbour was comic gold..."
It was never comedy gold if you were black in a mainly white school. That programme made my school life miserable. It just gave ignorant people more names to bully you with... |
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By *ot kevinMan
over a year ago
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"I've recently re-watched some old Harry Enfield shows from the mid-late 90s and there was a lot in them that wouldn't be acceptable now
Please share what offended you ?
I didn't say it offended me personally, I'm adult enough to be able to distinguish between what may have been acceptable at one time that is not generally considered acceptable now and hold my own counsel as to whether I find it funny or not - some of it just wasn't funny at all, not necessarily because of acceptability but because it plain wasn't funny for whatever reason.
Many of the programmes listed on this thread would be the same - acceptability is as much about the person viewing it as it is the content of the programme - some programmes are seen with a nostalgic air and almost funny in a different way than they were originally conceived - as a good example caught the end of one of the On The Buses films last weekend that was funny because of the ridiculousness of two middle aged "lotharios" in Stan and Jack chasing "dolly birds" in an almost seaside saucy postcard way.
Programmes like Mind Your Language or Love Thy Neighbour which played on every stereotype going and highlighted them to the extreme just aren't funny in any way."
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I revisited Queer As Folk in lockdoen having loved it at the time. The main protagonist is 15... something rather lightly brushed over. The lothario character has his friends jibe at him he's a cradle snatcher, and there's a whole scene where the young lads Dad is laughed at for getting upset someone's fucking his boy.
It's weird as in a way, it was a bit like that in the 90s, I went to my first club at 14... you just explored. But no way that would be written like that now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Any TV show with barrymore! Not due to the swimming pool saga but his sketches/way with words. I saw something on twitter of him and it was basically mocking oriental people. But back in the day it was never seen as wrong in any shape or form |
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