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Brief history of OUR country!!

By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

Right, all the following is historical FACT, so read and weep englisher pig-dogs!!

Before 1066, Britian was inhabited mostly by Celtic tribes, mostly peace-loving and friendly.

Then at Hastings in 1066 a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys (hereafter known as the Norman french) invaded.

Thet quickly pushed the celts North, (Scotland) and West (Wales and cornwall). When they tried to move into Wales and Scotland, the (by now very pissed off!!) Celts decided to make a stand.

This stand-off went on for a few hundred years, and then the Normans decided they wanted to take Wales (by this time the Irish had island hopped into Scotland and wiped out most of the remaining Celts there). They invaded Wales, and set about trying to wipe out the Celts, often by killing entire villages, women, children and the old too.

On occassion, monks would follow the armies around, and documented that the Norman knights(in armour, on horseback) often outnumbered the Celts (on foot, with basic weapons) by 4 or 6 to 1, and on one notable occassion 10 to 1, and still they got their butts kicked!!

Wales was NEVER conquered, the Normans built huge castles to live in when they came here and could never live freely without getting slaughtered.

Your flag (cross of Saint George) is from the city state of Genoa, brought to london and hung over their shops by genoaes money-lenders as a way of avoiding paying taxes, so its a flag of convienience for criminals.

Wales was never conquered, we even had to be INVITED to join the Union (U.K.) as you couldnt force us!!!

These facts are not taught fully in history lessons as it doesnt fit with the percieved view of the english as a "civilised" nation.

IR GYMRU!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well well I never had you down as a patriot lol ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well i hope you feel better for that and thanks for sharin!! always good to get a bit of culture that doesnt involve yoghurts!

i would give you the scottish version but after havin to do an essay on thatcherism im feelin a bit ill as it is!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

So what about that red haired windbag who was supposed to cut corruption in the E.U. and he and his family were well 'paid'. He managed to sack the whistleblower. Reminds me of an old rhyme about Beef.

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By *lirty14uMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

So... I'm guessing your from our little western colony then..?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

zzzzzzzzzzz

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By *lirty14uMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"zzzzzzzzzzz"

Is that Welsh??

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

Well, before you lot spoilt things, we had real metal money (before you!), our own parliament (before you!) laws laid down on paper (before you, see a pattern emerging?) two universities (before.....oh, I guess you get the picture!!), dont forget, we are talking history here, not modern day!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"zzzzzzzzzzz

Is that Welsh??"

I just googled it and it means "fuck off you red nosed twat"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"zzzzzzzzzzz

Is that Welsh??"

NO! would you like lessons in one of europes oldest tongues?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"zzzzzzzzzzz

Is that Welsh??

I just googled it and it means "fuck off you red nosed twat"

*whistles*

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"zzzzzzzzzzz

Is that Welsh??"

Nope silly boy, its boredom.

At least we have a language that goes back thousands of years and is virtually unchanged, whereas yours is a mixture of Italian, Latin, German and french..... Cynach yr bant!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Whens Bob Geldof gonna do a concert for the Welsh?...

Only joking.Tongue in cheek and all that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cynach yr bant!! oooh you said a naughty word lol

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By *lirty14uMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"zzzzzzzzzzz

Is that Welsh??

NO! would you like lessons in one of europes oldest tongues?

Not if it means being spat on so much.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

See, there's that deep seated inferiority complex bubbling to the surface. Its not your fault you are french!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whens Bob Geldof gonna do a concert for the Welsh?...

Only joking.Tongue in cheek and all that

Only in cheek? damn! lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"zzzzzzzzzzz

Is that Welsh??

NO! would you like lessons in one of europes oldest tongues?

Not if it means being spat on so much.

Ahhhh! ignorance must be bliss

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By *lirty14uMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys..."

You're not a Welsh version of Al Murray are you?

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Whens Bob Geldof gonna do a concert for the Welsh?...

Only joking.Tongue in cheek and all that

Only in cheek? damn! lol"

For "tongue in cheek" read... "hasn't got the bottle to admit its what he really thinks"

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By *lirty14uMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

a bunch of ***always late*** cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys...

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

""a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys..."

You're not a Welsh version of Al Murray are you?

Ah, a man after my own heart.... a patriot, even if he doesnt know his history lol!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"a bunch of ***always late*** cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys..."

sheesh!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

.....and as for Caer Caradoc its in England. Well Shropshire.lol

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"well i hope you feel better for that and thanks for sharin!! always good to get a bit of culture that doesnt involve yoghurts!

i would give you the scottish version but after havin to do an essay on thatcherism im feelin a bit ill as it is!!

Hate to rain on your parade hun but....

William Wallace?....... half Welsh..... TRUE!

Robert the Bruce..... quarter Welsh..... TRUE!!

Modern "scottish" people? Irish decent..... TRUE!!!

Sorry!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

cheese eatin surrender monkeys? was that no used by groundskeeper willie in the simpsons??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

Which also probably explains why we never really bothered

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

Poor old Glyndwr fled to England where he lived the rest of his life in an English castle in luxury whilst his kin starved and lived horribly at the hands of their own land owners..Who were mainly Welsh themselfs...

So ner ner back at ya...

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

Nothing worth having.... like gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters, and miles of perfect coastline?

TUT tut, methinks you are clutching at straws?

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

So ner ner back at ya..."

He must be related to Kinnock then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well i hope you feel better for that and thanks for sharin!! always good to get a bit of culture that doesnt involve yoghurts!

i would give you the scottish version but after havin to do an essay on thatcherism im feelin a bit ill as it is!!

Hate to rain on your parade hun but....

William Wallace?....... half Welsh..... TRUE!

Robert the Bruce..... quarter Welsh..... TRUE!!

Modern "scottish" people? Irish decent..... TRUE!!!

Sorry!!"

so basically everyone that got beaten had welsh genetics????

didnt think dna tests were around in those days....

oh and for arguements case moi 1/4 scots 1/4 irish 1/4 spanish 1/4 polish

no snp for me or bnp ,..... il just go pack my bags just now and start my own wee colony lol! xxx

its an interestin thread and good to seee other nations viewpoints and history x

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

Nothing worth having.... like gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters, and miles of perfect coastline?

TUT tut, methinks you are clutching at straws?"

AND I dont think they would have tried for 4 hundred years if there wasnt anything worth having? I know the french are stupid, but surely not that dull?

Hmmm, or maybe .... lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Dear me I'm off to the cilmeri stone .... heathens telling us about our history now lol ... anyone read the blue books lately?

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"well i hope you feel better for that and thanks for sharin!! always good to get a bit of culture that doesnt involve yoghurts!

i would give you the scottish version but after havin to do an essay on thatcherism im feelin a bit ill as it is!!

Hate to rain on your parade hun but....

William Wallace?....... half Welsh..... TRUE!

Robert the Bruce..... quarter Welsh..... TRUE!!

Modern "scottish" people? Irish decent..... TRUE!!!

Sorry!!

so basically everyone that got beaten had welsh genetics????

didnt think dna tests were around in those days....

oh and for arguements case moi 1/4 scots 1/4 irish 1/4 spanish 1/4 polish

no snp for me or bnp ,..... il just go pack my bags just now and start my own wee colony lol! xxx

its an interestin thread and good to seee other nations viewpoints and history x"

Beaten?

Well, yes, I guess you are correct....... but why did they try if they knew they were massively outnumbered, with no chance of success?

Cos they had balls!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

Nothing worth having.... like gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters, and miles of perfect coastline?

TUT tut, methinks you are clutching at straws?"

I know but look at it now, maybe us and the French had a bit more vision than you are giving us credit for

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well i hope you feel better for that and thanks for sharin!! always good to get a bit of culture that doesnt involve yoghurts!

i would give you the scottish version but after havin to do an essay on thatcherism im feelin a bit ill as it is!!

Hate to rain on your parade hun but....

William Wallace?....... half Welsh..... TRUE!

Robert the Bruce..... quarter Welsh..... TRUE!!

Modern "scottish" people? Irish decent..... TRUE!!!

Sorry!!

so basically everyone that got beaten had welsh genetics????

didnt think dna tests were around in those days....

oh and for arguements case moi 1/4 scots 1/4 irish 1/4 spanish 1/4 polish

no snp for me or bnp ,..... il just go pack my bags just now and start my own wee colony lol! xxx

its an interestin thread and good to seee other nations viewpoints and history x

Beaten?

Well, yes, I guess you are correct....... but why did they try if they knew they were massively outnumbered, with no chance of success?

Cos they had balls!!!

obviousley that was the scottish bit lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well i hope you feel better for that and thanks for sharin!! always good to get a bit of culture that doesnt involve yoghurts!

i would give you the scottish version but after havin to do an essay on thatcherism im feelin a bit ill as it is!!

Hate to rain on your parade hun but....

William Wallace?....... half Welsh..... TRUE!

Robert the Bruce..... quarter Welsh..... TRUE!!

Modern "scottish" people? Irish decent..... TRUE!!!

Sorry!!

so basically everyone that got beaten had welsh genetics????

didnt think dna tests were around in those days....

oh and for arguements case moi 1/4 scots 1/4 irish 1/4 spanish 1/4 polish

no snp for me or bnp ,..... il just go pack my bags just now and start my own wee colony lol! xxx

its an interestin thread and good to seee other nations viewpoints and history x

Beaten?

Well, yes, I guess you are correct....... but why did they try if they knew they were massively outnumbered, with no chance of success?

Cos they had balls!!!

With mint sauce on...Yum...

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

So ner ner back at ya...

He must be related to Kinnock then?"

You know that for a fact?

Cos historians the world over would love to know where he lived and where he is buried..... guess you must be cleverer than all of them then!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

or marmite......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

So ner ner back at ya...

He must be related to Kinnock then?

You know that for a fact?

Cos historians the world over would love to know where he lived and where he is buried..... guess you must be cleverer than all of them then!!"

Dr K W West of Cambridge University no less...My Uncle...Ooooooo!

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By *ebzStarWoman over a year ago

Notting

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

Nothing worth having.... like gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters, and miles of perfect coastline?

TUT tut, methinks you are clutching at straws?

I know but look at it now, maybe us and the French had a bit more vision than you are giving us credit for

"Us and the french"...??? YOU are french, just seperated by a few hundred years of history!!

And we still have gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters and miles of unspoilt coastline, DESPITE the englishers efforts to screw it all up!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

all this where we come from is a bit crappy imo, history is great to learn from and it's about time we started learning instead of trying to live for the past.

we are all humans living on planet earth regardless of which small corner we apparently come from.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx"

Thank you babes .... baaaa

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

Don;t try to tell me you have EVER been turned down, if so then that must be about sexuality.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

So ner ner back at ya...

He must be related to Kinnock then?

You know that for a fact?

Cos historians the world over would love to know where he lived and where he is buried..... guess you must be cleverer than all of them then!!

Dr K W West of Cambridge University no less...My Uncle...Ooooooo!

Well best you tell the rest of the world then, cos every book i have read loses track of Glyndwr not long after the Mid 1400's.

The book most of the info comes from was written by a guy (well known to me and a top bloke) who lectured on WELSH history at the Sorbonne in Paris, and has spent about 30 years researching the subject. He had access to historical documents fromn the french court of the time, as well as access to lots of stuff in the UK that many people never get to see.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

Don;t try to tell me you have EVER been turned down, if so then that must be about sexuality.

I honestly have no idea what you are on about hun .... but I am laughing my ass off here lol

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx

Thank you babes .... baaaa

Well, having met serens up close, I can honestly say no sheep would get a second look.

Well, perhaps that sexy one over there might be a fall-back if serens gives me the knock-back lol!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

Don;t try to tell me you have EVER been turned down, if so then that must be about sexuality.

I honestly have no idea what you are on about hun .... but I am laughing my ass off here lol "

I'm sucking up to you, though I would see if it actually works, I'm saying I don't believe you would ever be turned down (a shag, lol), and stated this after you agreed we are all different which lead me to believe you was suggesting you had been turned down.

I'm creeping.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

Don;t try to tell me you have EVER been turned down, if so then that must be about sexuality.

I honestly have no idea what you are on about hun .... but I am laughing my ass off here lol "

Hun, he means the bloke that turns you down must be gay.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx

Thank you babes .... baaaa

Well, having met serens up close, I can honestly say no sheep would get a second look.

Well, perhaps that sexy one over there might be a fall-back if serens gives me the knock-back lol!!"

Bites galore tonight lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

Don;t try to tell me you have EVER been turned down, if so then that must be about sexuality.

I honestly have no idea what you are on about hun .... but I am laughing my ass off here lol

Hun, he means the bloke that turns you down must be gay."

In short, yeah that's it.

Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Oh that is soooooo true

Don;t try to tell me you have EVER been turned down, if so then that must be about sexuality.

I honestly have no idea what you are on about hun .... but I am laughing my ass off here lol

I'm creeping.

Ah gotcha lol .... sorry I've been posting here and watching fawlty towers too lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx

Thank you babes .... baaaa

Well, having met serens up close, I can honestly say no sheep would get a second look.

Well, perhaps that sexy one over there might be a fall-back if serens gives me the knock-back lol!!

Bites galore tonight lol xx"

Who's biting me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx

Thank you babes .... baaaa

Well, having met serens up close, I can honestly say no sheep would get a second look.

Well, perhaps that sexy one over there might be a fall-back if serens gives me the knock-back lol!!

Bites galore tonight lol xx

Who's biting me

Not you miss, but fun is being had

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By *lirty14uMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Well, as long as Wales keeps producing lasses like Mrs Serens2, they are welcome to be as patriotic as they like!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is it true the guys shag sheep though?

I'm not saying I believe it like, but you know, it's often said.

A naughty welsh girl or a sheep ... what do you think?

I know what I would choose, but we're not all the same.

Well a choice between Serens and the sheep - that would be a REALLY hard decision - but think Serens wins by a hair....;) xx

Thank you babes .... baaaa

Well, having met serens up close, I can honestly say no sheep would get a second look.

Well, perhaps that sexy one over there might be a fall-back if serens gives me the knock-back lol!!

Bites galore tonight lol xx

Who's biting me

Not you miss, but fun is being had

Aw shame ill just shut the door behind me then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats all good and well but where does all your money come from

So considering we never invaded, never conquered etc and you had it so good how did it all go so horribly wrong

Well, it was all the fault of the french... again lol!

Owain Glyndwr.... the last true Prince of Wales, fought the "english", and asked the true french nobility to help him with men and money. They promised to, but betrayed him (why am I not surprised?)

I suspect that having visited, the French came to the conclusion that there was feck all worth having so made the smart financial move and did a runner, only a thought tho

Nothing worth having.... like gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters, and miles of perfect coastline?

TUT tut, methinks you are clutching at straws?

I know but look at it now, maybe us and the French had a bit more vision than you are giving us credit for

"Us and the french"...??? YOU are french, just seperated by a few hundred years of history!!

And we still have gold mines, lush valleys, crystal clear waters and miles of unspoilt coastline, DESPITE the englishers efforts to screw it all up!!!"

Now seriously confused, lived on Angelsey for 2 years, relatives in Bangor, holidayed in the south, visited Cardiff and Newport and whilst I would fully agree with some of what you say perhaps thats a slightly rose tinted outlook you have there

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By *ricky_DickyMan over a year ago

Mirfield

How tedious, my country is better than your country, your like feckin kids in the playground.

We after all originated from the same part of Africa millenia ago. Why can't we all just get along.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Might be tricky dicky

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How tedious, my country is better than your country, your like feckin kids in the playground.

We after all originated from the same part of Africa millenia ago. Why can't we all just get along."

Not if you believe the theory of tandem evolution of man in Asia as well as Africa

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How tedious, my country is better than your country, your like feckin kids in the playground.

We after all originated from the same part of Africa millenia ago. Why can't we all just get along."

Just a theory that mate, no real proof.

but you are right that we all originate from the same place, the world!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Make luv not war yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I knew there had to be a reason why the welsh were so crap at footie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well, as long as Wales keeps producing lasses like Mrs Serens2, they are welcome to be as patriotic as they like!

Now that's better lol x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How tedious, my country is better than your country, your like feckin kids in the playground.

We after all originated from the same part of Africa millenia ago. Why can't we all just get along."

I fear you may have spectactularly missed the satire in all this hun

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By *uton_coupleCouple over a year ago

luton

the norman french did indeed invade in 1066 , but prior to that we were invaded by the romans in 54AD

in due course they defeated the celtic tribes lead by bodica in st albans

they then subsequently defeated the welsh and made good use of there gold mines

at around this time scotland was under constant attack by the vikings and have a very long history of colonisation

in the 5th century we had further invasion by the saxons from now eastern germany

so wales was in fact conquered , and the romans called it DEMETAE

i dont blame the welsh students for getting it wrong as every nation teaches its students with a very heavy political slant in it own favour and the students must find it very difficult to understand the welsh language jibber jabber

your use of the phrase " pig dogs " would suggest to me that theres more german in you than norsk , or italian , or indeed the ancient britain celtic blood line

if one was to talk about facts , the fact is the stock of the british isles is now made up of a group mongrels , a bastard race ........... i do of course include myself in that catergory

am i of french , german , norsk , italian , or indeed romany gipsy stock ? or perhaps a melting pot of all the above

well unless i have a DNA test i wont know

but the same applies to you , but be carefull about your welsh gingoism as you might find that your great great great great grandad came from the ivory coast ........... yaki da

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How tedious, my country is better than your country, your like feckin kids in the playground.

We after all originated from the same part of Africa millenia ago. Why can't we all just get along.

I fear you may have spectactularly missed the satire in all this hun

Exactly miss, not a nasty word has been traded and it's all been good natured banter

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My ribs are killing me

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

Robert the Bruce was actualy victorious not beaten, and Scotland remained independent till they were sold out by the greed of the Scottish nobles (as greedy as todays politicians)otherwise known as quizzlings and it was a union of the crowns not an English victory over the Scots the ubion flag has the flag of all the UK nations on it and it is a British flag not an english flag as some folk think and as for money if it wasnt for north sea oil Britian would be in an far worse state than it is today.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well i guess leaving school at 14 didnt do me no harm,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My ribs are killing me

As are mine, all my mums side are from Wales, all my dads side are from Scotland and I am just enjoying the word play

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Robert the Bruce was actualy victorious not beaten, and Scotland remained independent till they were sold out by the greed of the Scottish nobles (as greedy as todays politicians)otherwise known as quizzlings and it was a union of the crowns not an English victory over the Scots the ubion flag has the flag of all the UK nations on it and it is a British flag not an english flag as some folk think and as for money if it wasnt for north sea oil Britian would be in an far worse state than it is today."

I thought all the oil money from OFFSHORE went on health care for the tab smoking lard eating inhabitants of north of the border??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wales is not represented on the union flag hence I do not recognise it ... they would say we are represented by the cross of st george but that would be due to an illegal act of union ... sorry couldn't resist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The fact is that many celts were impregnated by the Normans and Saxons. The only ones pure are the ginners!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The fact is that many celts were impregnated by the Normans and Saxons. The only ones pure are the ginners!

Ginners! I prefer wine lol

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By *uton_coupleCouple over a year ago

luton

i,ll second that , its all in good fun

wont open this thread again as it takes 15 minutes to get to the bottom on this slow connection

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

sorry serens you are right Wales is not on it as it was not a kingdom.

And I thinkthere are tab eating smoking junkies in all parts of the UK or am I wrong about that ? enlighten me please.

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By *herokee18Couple over a year ago

Carlisle

you got a problem with the Normans? I am of Norman descent and am still sword fighting you english

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MM sheep !! edge of a cliff ,and then they will push back ,must remember my wellies ,

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By *herokee18Couple over a year ago

Carlisle

Sorry forgot and the Welsh!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sorry serens you are right Wales is not on it as it was not a kingdom.

And I thinkthere are tab eating smoking junkies in all parts of the UK or am I wrong about that ? enlighten me please."

Nothing to do with kingdoms .... an illegal act of union in 1536 annexed wales into england .... as for tab eating smoking junkies ... please enlighten me

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

It was in part answer to Saucy Fairies reference to tab smoking lard eating inhabitnts north of the border I just elaborated a wee bit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It was in part answer to Saucy Fairies reference to tab smoking lard eating inhabitnts north of the border I just elaborated a wee bit.

Ah I see lol ... nothing wrong with the scots

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

What a side splitting thread here! But at the end of it all we are Great Britain.

The queen as far as I know is sovereign of both Wales and Scotland. The Price of Wales is………..fuck you can have him. The duke of Edinburgh is………..Arr well all I can say is HA HA HA HA (in a Nelson Munt aka Simpsons style) We dumped our lame royals on you lot…..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well maggie put paid to that!! she took the revenue from north sea oil to stabilise the economy after destroyin the manufacturing industry and look at the mess we in now because of it!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

"
the lady is not for turning

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

Nothing wrong that a small nuclear device wouldn't put right lol .... thatcher is universally despised in the valleys

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

Nothing wrong that a small nuclear device wouldn't put right lol .... thatcher is universally despised in the valleys

She is universally despised in a lot of places does not change the fact that she was the best this country has seen in a long long while

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Right, all the following is historical FACT, so read and weep englisher pig-dogs!!

Before 1066, Britian was inhabited mostly by Celtic tribes, mostly peace-loving and friendly.

Then at Hastings in 1066 a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys (hereafter known as the Norman french) invaded.

Thet quickly pushed the celts North, (Scotland) and West (Wales and cornwall). When they tried to move into Wales and Scotland, the (by now very pissed off!!) Celts decided to make a stand.

Wales was NEVER conquered, the Normans built huge castles to live in when they came here and could never live freely without getting slaughtered.

Wales was never conquered, we even had to be INVITED to join the Union (U.K.) as you couldnt force us!!!

These facts are not taught fully in history lessons as it doesnt fit with the percieved view of the english as a "civilised" nation.

IR GYMRU!!"

As an archaeologist and ancient/medieval/military historian i have to say this 'history' is not true at all!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

Nothing wrong that a small nuclear device wouldn't put right lol .... thatcher is universally despised in the valleys

She is universally despised in a lot of places does not change the fact that she was the best this country has seen in a long long while

I like you mr bonks but I have to disagree .... she destroyed communities ... manufacturing ... the mining industry ... I can't go on cos I'll only feel

....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Right, all the following is historical FACT, so read and weep englisher pig-dogs!!

Before 1066, Britian was inhabited mostly by Celtic tribes, mostly peace-loving and friendly.

Then at Hastings in 1066 a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys (hereafter known as the Norman french) invaded.

Thet quickly pushed the celts North, (Scotland) and West (Wales and cornwall). When they tried to move into Wales and Scotland, the (by now very pissed off!!) Celts decided to make a stand.

Wales was NEVER conquered, the Normans built huge castles to live in when they came here and could never live freely without getting slaughtered.

Wales was never conquered, we even had to be INVITED to join the Union (U.K.) as you couldnt force us!!!

These facts are not taught fully in history lessons as it doesnt fit with the percieved view of the english as a "civilised" nation.

IR GYMRU!!

As an archaeologist and ancient/medieval/military historian i have to say this 'history' is not true at all!!!!! "

Archaeology is fascinating ... history is full of lies, some of the worst being in the blue books regarding the industrial revolution ... have a google x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have to confess to actually getting a stiffy over Mrs Thatcher years ago...

I'm nothing if not honest lol..

She was Awsome.... till she wasn't!

More balls than any other pm.. good or bad you remembered her lol..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

Nothing wrong that a small nuclear device wouldn't put right lol .... thatcher is universally despised in the valleys

She is universally despised in a lot of places does not change the fact that she was the best this country has seen in a long long while

I like you mr bonks but I have to disagree .... she destroyed communities ... manufacturing ... the mining industry ... I can't go on cos I'll only feel

.... "

I agree with some of what you say but she also gave folk like my parents the chance to own their own home. She will always be blamed for destruction of, but very few will ever accept their own part in the winds of change.

I also like you and very much admire your style and type of posting so shall we shake hands and agree to disagree as I suspect you will hate the sight of a grown man crying

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

Nothing wrong that a small nuclear device wouldn't put right lol .... thatcher is universally despised in the valleys

She is universally despised in a lot of places does not change the fact that she was the best this country has seen in a long long while

I like you mr bonks but I have to disagree .... she destroyed communities ... manufacturing ... the mining industry ... I can't go on cos I'll only feel

....

I also like you and very much admire your style and type of posting so shall we shake hands and agree to disagree as I suspect you will hate the sight of a grown man crying

I don't shake hands I prefer a cwtch in agreeing to disagree ... err! I think

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Feck all wrong with Maggie, best we have had in a very long while

Nothing wrong that a small nuclear device wouldn't put right lol .... thatcher is universally despised in the valleys

She is universally despised in a lot of places does not change the fact that she was the best this country has seen in a long long while

I like you mr bonks but I have to disagree .... she destroyed communities ... manufacturing ... the mining industry ... I can't go on cos I'll only feel

....

I also like you and very much admire your style and type of posting so shall we shake hands and agree to disagree as I suspect you will hate the sight of a grown man crying

I don't shake hands I prefer a cwtch in agreeing to disagree ... err! I think

If thats what I think it is, and even if it's not it gets my vote every time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We hearded the Welsh women into Wales to make Swinging easier...

Having the sexy fookers strewn all over the place was just plain madness..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Right, all the following is historical FACT, so read and weep englisher pig-dogs!!

Before 1066, Britian was inhabited mostly by Celtic tribes, mostly peace-loving and friendly."

Before 1066 England was made up of Anglo-Saxons (with ever growing Viking incursions) and NOT Celtic tribes as the op states. In fact the Anglo-Saxons had ruled England for around 500 years before the Normans invaded. The Romans were the ones who had virtually eliminated many of the Celtic traditions by wiping out the Druids in Anglesey .

"Then at Hastings in 1066 a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys (hereafter known as the Norman french) invaded.

Thet quickly pushed the celts North, (Scotland) and West (Wales and cornwall). When they tried to move into Wales and Scotland, the (by now very pissed off!!) Celts decided to make a stand. "

The Normans didn't push any Celts anywhere because the Celtic peoples were no longer prevalent in what we know as England. And what is a Celt? The word Celt derives from the Ancient Greeks who called anyone none Greek as Keltoi. People who live in Wales/Ireland/Scotland often call themselves Celtic but the ancient Celts are long gone and what we perceive as being Celtic is in fact a modern reinvention. Even the Celtic knot is actually Germanic in origin and not Celtic.

"This stand-off went on for a few hundred years, and then the Normans decided they wanted to take Wales (by this time the Irish had island hopped into Scotland and wiped out most of the remaining Celts there). They invaded Wales, and set about trying to wipe out the Celts, often by killing entire villages, women, children and the old too.

Wales was NEVER conquered, the Normans built huge castles to live in when they came here and could never live freely without getting slaughtered.

The Normans as a separate people existed until 1204 when the French invaded and took Normandy. By this time the Normans in England were already classed as English and the Normans in Normandy became French.

What sources have you got for the troop numbers as they are vastly incorrect. To begin with the majority of the Norman army were foot soldiers and so the idea most were cavalry is plain wrong. The Welsh armies were also armoured and had excellent weaponry, such as the much feared longbow. And to be honest the Norman Armies never outnumbered any Welsh field army by those amounts and often fought against larger enemy armies.

There was a series of Norman and English military incursions into Wales which in fact became more of a stalemate than a outright victory for either side. Edward I began the building of castles to control the areas of importance and along the English/Welsh border, which worked to control the territory but not defeat the Welsh as a people. However, we must not forget many Welsh fought alongside the English against the Welsh and also against their fellow ‘Celts’ the Scots and Irish. The Welsh Longbow was perhaps the greatest weapon in the Medieval world until the advent of fire arms and the Welsh mercenary was widely sought after and copied. And the hymn ’Men of Harlot’ that is sung by the Welsh is actually an English song written to celebrate the English victory over the Welsh!

Also the Irish who invaded and settled in Pictavia land were called the Scotti who later gave Scotland it’s name had already done this some time before in the late 5th century, so your time frames are way off!

"Your flag (cross of Saint George) is from the city state of Genoa, brought to london and hung over their shops by genoaes money-lenders as a way of avoiding paying taxes, so its a flag of convienience for criminals."

Again not true and I would urge anyone to look at something like wikipaedia for a better description of the St George Cross origin theories.

"These facts are not taught fully in history lessons as it doesnt fit with the percieved view of the english as a "civilised" nation."

These ‘facts’ are not taught in schools because there all blatantly wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Problem with wikipedia Gothica is I believe pretty much anyone can add to it, so often incorrect.

Don't get me wrong I don't know for a fact but it has been mentioned to me several times by several people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She is universally despised in a lot of places does not change the fact that she was the best this country has seen in a long long while

I like you mr bonks but I have to disagree .... she destroyed communities ... manufacturing ... the mining industry ... I can't go on cos I'll only feel

....

I also like you and very much admire your style and type of posting so shall we shake hands and agree to disagree as I suspect you will hate the sight of a grown man crying

I love most of what she did.. Not all but as a woman who gave the country self respect again.. and like you say many the chance to escape poverty and 'own' something she was awsome..

Ok.. selling us back what we already owned was a tad naughty..

I'd shake your hand anytime.. (assuming you washed it first lol)

I think over time we have learned much from each other.. and about each other..

I know I have...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Problem with wikipedia Gothica is I believe pretty much anyone can add to it, so often incorrect.

Don't get me wrong I don't know for a fact but it has been mentioned to me several times by several people."

Wiki gives people a chance to see the St George Flag origin theories...no one can say what is rightly or wrongly where it came from but it's better to read the theories than the rubbish written on here!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Problem with wikipedia Gothica is I believe pretty much anyone can add to it, so often incorrect.

Don't get me wrong I don't know for a fact but it has been mentioned to me several times by several people.

Good point well put.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

how did i know u were goin to say that........... oohh u r a devil lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"how did i know u were goin to say that........... oohh u r a devil lol xx

What a nice spankable bum you have lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

aww thanks lol

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

I thought wales was a principlity and not a country

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Right, all the following is historical FACT, so read and weep englisher pig-dogs!!

Before 1066, Britian was inhabited mostly by Celtic tribes, mostly peace-loving and friendly.

Then at Hastings in 1066 a bunch of cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys (hereafter known as the Norman french) invaded.

Thet quickly pushed the celts North, (Scotland) and West (Wales and cornwall). When they tried to move into Wales and Scotland, the (by now very pissed off!!) Celts decided to make a stand.

Wales was NEVER conquered, the Normans built huge castles to live in when they came here and could never live freely without getting slaughtered.

Again not true and I would urge anyone to look at something like wikipaedia for a better description of the St George Cross origin theories.

These facts are not taught fully in history lessons as it doesnt fit with the percieved view of the english as a "civilised" nation.

These ‘facts’ are not taught in schools because there all blatantly wrong. "

"Men of Harlot". . . . actually its "Men of Harlech" !!