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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire

As it’s nearly November it’s a hot and topical question, right?

Me? First week of December normally, but if I could get away with doing a week or so earlier I would!

But this isn’t a thread about me. It’s a thread about YOU! When do you get all festive my lovelies?

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By *hisStagsVixenCouple 27 weeks ago

peterborough


"As it’s nearly November it’s a hot and topical question, right?

Me? First week of December normally, but if I could get away with doing a week or so earlier I would!

But this isn’t a thread about me. It’s a thread about YOU! When do you get all festive my lovelies?

"

In about 2 weeks! It’s my favourite time of the year and I like to enjoy it as long as possible!

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By *ickshawedCouple 27 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Usually the first weekend in December. Our eldest is born in December so we always give him the choice. Every year he wants the tree up before his birthday, so we oblige

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By *am101aMan 27 weeks ago

swad

Doesnt happen!

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By *apybarasCouple 27 weeks ago

Harwich

I only put it up if I'm hosting Xmas for the family (my ex-wife and I take in turns), so I won't be this year!

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By *aitonelMan 27 weeks ago

Liverpool/Wallasey

Boxing day

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By *ora the explorerWoman 27 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

30th November then the elf comes with all the advent calendars etc on the 1st

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By *evonduoCouple 27 weeks ago

Devon

We put ours up early December. J refuses to get one earlier.

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By *winging_couple300Couple 27 weeks ago

Doncaster

Early December usually

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple 27 weeks ago

kent

Our chaos goes up two weeks before and comes down again New Years Eve, so we start the year fresh without anything hanging over from the previous year… as far as this is possible.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman 27 weeks ago

ashford

Not till Dec x

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple 27 weeks ago

Manchester-ish

Oh, I am here for the Christmas emojis!

We get a real tree so usually mid-December.

Looking forward to getting some porno gingerbread decorations for this year's tree.

J

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

I put it up whenever I feel like it. Last year it was up the last week of November I love decorating the house, making it all Christmasy!

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By *ehindHerEyesCouple 27 weeks ago

SomewhereOnlyWeKnow

First advent Sunday is when ours go up, so some years it's in November some it in December. We take them down on Three Kings the 6th of January

Tinder x

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By *ools and the brainCouple 27 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

If I had my way Xmas eve then down day after boxing Day, however as Mrs (jools)is a Christmas fanatic probably the beginning of December and down end of January.

I'm already done with Xmas and it's not even here yet.

Baaa humbug

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By *orphia2003Woman 27 weeks ago

Tonypandy.

I don't if I can help it.

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By *rozac_fairyCouple 27 weeks ago

Tamworth

End of November, start of December... depends when we have time honestly

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By *affron40Woman 27 weeks ago

manchester

Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November.

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By *piderBunnyCouple 27 weeks ago

Back of Nowhere and Beyond


"

Oh, I am here for the Christmas emojis!

We get a real tree so usually mid-December.

Looking forward to getting some porno gingerbread decorations for this year's tree.

J"

You say the best things

I've had a tree up since July because I've been taking product photos... but my actual tree will go up, if it goes up, the first week of December. Probably the Tuesday because I think this year the Monday will be a write off.

Posh

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff

It's not even officially Halloween yet!

(though that seems to last a whole month now too).

Why does everything have to last forever?

Some people have been taking about Christmas all October!

I was going to say it's like being 12 again, but to be frank when I was 12 we simply didn't so this.

What gives?

pt

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By *piderBunnyCouple 27 weeks ago

Back of Nowhere and Beyond


"It's not even officially Halloween yet!

(though that seems to last a whole month now too).

Why does everything have to last forever?

Some people have been taking about Christmas all October!

I was going to say it's like being 12 again, but to be frank when I was 12 we simply didn't so this.

What gives?

pt"

I've been talking Christmas since June. But that's because I have to start making Christmas decorations for market then.

When I was 12 I'm pretty sure we talked about Christmas a lot of the year, on and off... we were excited. Some people love it and it's gorgeous to see the enthusiasm!

Posh

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

1st November the decorations start creeping in.

Tree not till 1st December.

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By *phrodite_AdonisCouple 27 weeks ago

~~

Last year I put ours up mid-November because we were going on holiday and I didn’t want the faff to when we got home in December.

This year we’ve got a 40kg German Shepherd pup to contend with so I’ll be lucky if I get 3 days out of a tree

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By * and M lookingCouple 27 weeks ago

Worcester

Given the chance, never.

Sadly I don't have a say but will always hold out for as long as possible.

Mr M

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By *lexm87Man 27 weeks ago

Cumford

That is a very important comma.

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire


"Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November. "

Good luck with the op my lovely - sending all the best wishes to you!

Hopefully the house will be lovely and festive for your recuperation at home xx

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By *ora the explorerWoman 27 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"That is a very important comma. "

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire


"That is a very important comma. "

Reading some of the threads on here, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised what some people get up to with their tree!

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By *affron40Woman 27 weeks ago

manchester


"Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November.

Good luck with the op my lovely - sending all the best wishes to you!

Hopefully the house will be lovely and festive for your recuperation at home xx "

Thanks Dan dreading the op but looking forward to December off work in my pjs eating all the Christmas goodies!!

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By *ora the explorerWoman 27 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November.

Good luck with the op my lovely - sending all the best wishes to you!

Hopefully the house will be lovely and festive for your recuperation at home xx

Thanks Dan dreading the op but looking forward to December off work in my pjs eating all the Christmas goodies!! "

will there be some of your special brownies? I may pop over

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"It's not even officially Halloween yet!

(though that seems to last a whole month now too).

Why does everything have to last forever?

Some people have been taking about Christmas all October!

I was going to say it's like being 12 again, but to be frank when I was 12 we simply didn't so this.

What gives?

pt

I've been talking Christmas since June. But that's because I have to start making Christmas decorations for market then.

When I was 12 I'm pretty sure we talked about Christmas a lot of the year, on and off... we were excited. Some people love it and it's gorgeous to see the enthusiasm!

Posh

"

It's only a fun post I know, but is the OP 12 though?

We are but 2 days from Nov with Halloween in between (November being a time people like me will just put up with it OP!) - talk about excitable!!

When I was 12, on October 30th I thought about Halloween (though it wasn't quite so huge back then), not Christmas!

But it's consumerism all year now, that's what I'm getting at I think.

A lot of that iconography is about the Winter solstice too. Seasonal greetings, like the gaudy tree. We are just not there yet though, let alone the Catholic date for the birth of Christ!

To some people it's like seeing their life fly past at hyperspeed.

When I was a kid it was about birthdays, Easter, half-terms, Tournaments, the Summer hols, Halloween, Bonfire Night.. we honestly didn't think about Christmas all-year round at all. It's something that 'hit' in November because it was the next thing in line.

pt

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By *edeWoman 27 weeks ago

the abyss

It shall be going up the 1st week in December or maybe the week before because I can

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By *KTim61Man 27 weeks ago

Tipton


"If I had my way Xmas eve then down day after boxing Day, however as Mrs (jools)is a Christmas fanatic probably the beginning of December and down end of January.

I'm already done with Xmas and it's not even here yet.

Baaa humbug "

As I live on my own, I dont even bother putting a tree up or bother with trimmings

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire


"It's not even officially Halloween yet!

(though that seems to last a whole month now too).

Why does everything have to last forever?

Some people have been taking about Christmas all October!

I was going to say it's like being 12 again, but to be frank when I was 12 we simply didn't so this.

What gives?

pt

I've been talking Christmas since June. But that's because I have to start making Christmas decorations for market then.

When I was 12 I'm pretty sure we talked about Christmas a lot of the year, on and off... we were excited. Some people love it and it's gorgeous to see the enthusiasm!

Posh

It's only a fun post I know, but is the OP 12 though?

We are but 2 days from Nov with Halloween in between (November being a time people like me will just put up with it OP!) - talk about excitable!!

When I was 12, on October 30th I thought about Halloween (though it wasn't quite so huge back then), not Christmas!

But it's consumerism all year now, that's what I'm getting at I think.

A lot of that iconography is about the Winter solstice too. Seasonal greetings, like the gaudy tree. We are just not there yet though, let alone the Catholic date for the birth of Christ!

To some people it's like seeing their life fly past at hyperspeed.

When I was a kid it was about birthdays, Easter, half-terms, Tournaments, the Summer hols, Halloween, Bonfire Night.. we honestly didn't think about Christmas all-year round at all. It's something that 'hit' in November because it was the next thing in line.

pt"

“Bah, Humbug!!”

“Christmas is a humbug, pt!”, replies Dan, “you don’t mean that, I am sure?”

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"If I had my way Xmas eve then down day after boxing Day, however as Mrs (jools)is a Christmas fanatic probably the beginning of December and down end of January.

I'm already done with Xmas and it's not even here yet.

Baaa humbug

As I live on my own, I dont even bother putting a tree up or bother with trimmings"

.

Me neither when I'm single, and when I used to make one for a family environment I treated it as I did when I was a kid... not something to over-spoil kids with. It's a period of time, then life goes back to normal. Life went from normal to Christmas to normal. Now there is a 4-month extended commercial 'silly season' that can last from the end of September to February sometimes, if that's the end of the Boxing Day Sale.

Being arsed to get it down and boxed up again though?... I admit that can last a bit longer than I've planned it to though lol!

pt

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"It's not even officially Halloween yet!

(though that seems to last a whole month now too).

Why does everything have to last forever?

Some people have been taking about Christmas all October!

I was going to say it's like being 12 again, but to be frank when I was 12 we simply didn't so this.

What gives?

pt

I've been talking Christmas since June. But that's because I have to start making Christmas decorations for market then.

When I was 12 I'm pretty sure we talked about Christmas a lot of the year, on and off... we were excited. Some people love it and it's gorgeous to see the enthusiasm!

Posh

It's only a fun post I know, but is the OP 12 though?

We are but 2 days from Nov with Halloween in between (November being a time people like me will just put up with it OP!) - talk about excitable!!

When I was 12, on October 30th I thought about Halloween (though it wasn't quite so huge back then), not Christmas!

But it's consumerism all year now, that's what I'm getting at I think.

A lot of that iconography is about the Winter solstice too. Seasonal greetings, like the gaudy tree. We are just not there yet though, let alone the Catholic date for the birth of Christ!

To some people it's like seeing their life fly past at hyperspeed.

When I was a kid it was about birthdays, Easter, half-terms, Tournaments, the Summer hols, Halloween, Bonfire Night.. we honestly didn't think about Christmas all-year round at all. It's something that 'hit' in November because it was the next thing in line.

pt

“Bah, Humbug!!”

“Christmas is a humbug, pt!”, replies Dan, “you don’t mean that, I am sure?”

"

.

I actually quite like humbugs. Have you read my profile? pt

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

24th of December.

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire


"

“Bah, Humbug!!”

“Christmas is a humbug, pt!”, replies Dan, “you don’t mean that, I am sure?”

.

I actually quite like humbugs. Have you read my profile? pt"

No.

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

Not overly fond of Xmas trees, I’ll probably get one of those small already done ones. Tinsel/baubles/wreaths/anything glittery though, count me in

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago


"Not overly fond of Xmas trees, I’ll probably get one of those small already done ones. Tinsel/baubles/wreaths/anything glittery though, count me in"
From around 1st Dec!

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 27 weeks ago

Leeds

December sometime and down boxing day.

Mrs

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"

“Bah, Humbug!!”

“Christmas is a humbug, pt!”, replies Dan, “you don’t mean that, I am sure?”

.

I actually quite like humbugs. Have you read my profile? pt

No.

"

I bet you have (or looked at it I should say lol, few have fully read it)

pt

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire


"

“Bah, Humbug!!”

“Christmas is a humbug, pt!”, replies Dan, “you don’t mean that, I am sure?”

.

I actually quite like humbugs. Have you read my profile? pt

No.

I bet you have (or looked at it I should say lol, few have fully read it)

pt"

I did look, just then!

TL:DR

Can you summarise, please?

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"December sometime and down boxing day.

Mrs "

Me too, ideally. Well done on getting it down that day though! pt

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

December 1st (Christmas)

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"

“Bah, Humbug!!”

“Christmas is a humbug, pt!”, replies Dan, “you don’t mean that, I am sure?”

.

I actually quite like humbugs. Have you read my profile? pt

No.

I bet you have (or looked at it I should say lol, few have fully read it)

pt

I did look, just then!

TL:DR

Can you summarise, please? "

The summary is at the top lol

(it's ok don't sweat it I've met a few grumpy old men) pt

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By *affron40Woman 27 weeks ago

manchester


"Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November.

Good luck with the op my lovely - sending all the best wishes to you!

Hopefully the house will be lovely and festive for your recuperation at home xx

Thanks Dan dreading the op but looking forward to December off work in my pjs eating all the Christmas goodies!!

will there be some of your special brownies? I may pop over "

I shall be baking and batch cooking before I go in.. shocker

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple 27 weeks ago

Lincoln

There had one year when we already had it up on Halloween, but just the tree, not the whole house being decorated.

Last year's Christmas was kinda meh, so I'm not really feeling festive yet this year.

K

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By *piderBunnyCouple 27 weeks ago

Back of Nowhere and Beyond


"Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November.

Good luck with the op my lovely - sending all the best wishes to you!

Hopefully the house will be lovely and festive for your recuperation at home xx

Thanks Dan dreading the op but looking forward to December off work in my pjs eating all the Christmas goodies!!

will there be some of your special brownies? I may pop over

I shall be baking and batch cooking before I go in.. shocker "

That's exactly what looking after yourself means...

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By *esthetic21Man 27 weeks ago

west midlands

Day after bonfire night

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman 27 weeks ago

Next Door

My neighbour have there lights on already

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By *obilebottomMan 27 weeks ago

All over

Sadly I am not going to put it up this year. Usually though no later than 6th Dec and it stays up at least until the 6th Jan. I find it strange when people start taking their tree down before new year and not wait till after Epiphany day.

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"My neighbour have there lights on already

"

I so so so feel for you. If they are down towards the end of Jan that's almost 3 whole months too. I just hope they at least get them down in good speed. pt

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By *a LunaWoman 27 weeks ago

Southern Wales

Once my birthday has gone, which is in December. Near the beginning of the month. Between the 3rd and the 5th.

*hint hint*

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

After Thanksgiving

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By *ora the explorerWoman 27 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"Fuck a duck!! Good point Dan!! I’m going in for a big op end of November so mine will be up on the 26th November.

Good luck with the op my lovely - sending all the best wishes to you!

Hopefully the house will be lovely and festive for your recuperation at home xx

Thanks Dan dreading the op but looking forward to December off work in my pjs eating all the Christmas goodies!!

will there be some of your special brownies? I may pop over

I shall be baking and batch cooking before I go in.. shocker "

To this day I’ve never tasted a brownie as good as yours!

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By *panksspankedMan 27 weeks ago

Edinburgh

Start of December usually. I always mean to do the cards then too but it never happens. I can be grumpy about doing all the preparations but I quite like it really.

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By *ife NinjaMan 27 weeks ago

Dunfermline

First weekend in December

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"Once my birthday has gone, which is in December. Near the beginning of the month. Between the 3rd and the 5th.

*hint hint*"

Deck the fourth be with you!

And no cock pics (unless you want them lol) pt

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

Never

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"Never "

.

You do live in the middle of a pine forest in fairness.

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By *ersiantugMan 27 weeks ago

Cardiff


"Never

.

You do live in the middle of a pine forest in fairness. "

Near the gingerbread house lol

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By *ixenforfunWoman 27 weeks ago

banes mask


"Once my birthday has gone, which is in December. Near the beginning of the month. Between the 3rd and the 5th.

*hint hint*"

Ooh birthday sister

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By *ixenforfunWoman 27 weeks ago

banes mask

Id have mine up the min halloween is over if i was allowed lol. I usually aim for towards the end of november.i usually spend about a week putting everything up then rearranging and rearranging again. Bloody fairy light placement

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

Yesterday

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By *unandgamegeekMan 27 weeks ago

Bolton

In the first week of December along with all the decorations that I love doing every year

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

As rarely in my flat for Christmas never decorated it

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By *ixiePoisonWoman 27 weeks ago

Darlington

First week of December, usually take it down on the 1st of January….

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By *ebel.heartWoman 27 weeks ago

glasgow

First weekend in December usually

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By *harlieandMontyCouple 27 weeks ago

Seaton

Never

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 27 weeks ago

Central

Not before Christmas eve

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By *4bimMan 27 weeks ago

Farnborough Hampshire

Eve.

Down on the 27th.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 27 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

Morning of the 25th, it’s a little two foot tall talking Father Christmas one that I bring straight out the cupboard, all ready to go, no hassles. Put it back in the cupboard evening of the 25th.

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By *ornucopiaMan 27 weeks ago

Bexley


"When do you put your Christmas tree up, Fabsters?"

I put mine up in the loft years ago and it can stay there!

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By *addad99Man 27 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay

I don't I get a few days off fuck chance I'm spending it putting crap up then taking it all down

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

Steady on, we've not had bonfire night yet. Don't rush the festivities

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By *uby StarCouple 27 weeks ago

Durham

About the 2nd weekend in December.

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By *oudnproudWoman 27 weeks ago

penrith

The Elfs bring the tree in the night on the 30th of November, they leave it bare and a box of decorations for the children to help decorate it. In exchange for their help they get there advent calendar!

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By *tsJustKateWoman 27 weeks ago

London

2 weeks before and its down a week after.

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By *lidMan 27 weeks ago

Cambridge

Mines up already .. Up in the loft that is.

Until 2 weeks before

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS 27 weeks ago

Ramsey

Everything dragged out of storage a few days before & investigated ready for the final Sunday in November, whatever date that happens to be. Maximum of a month before is plenty of time to enjoy the effort taken.

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire

I’m negotiating a “last week of November” deal currently. I’ll let you know how it goes!

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By *ornucopiaMan 27 weeks ago

Bexley

Here's a suggestion.

Since is take them down day is 6th January, why not make 6th December put it up day?

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By *eneralKenobiMan 27 weeks ago

North Angus

Haven’t had a tree up for about 6 years

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By *orridgeCoupleCouple 27 weeks ago

Outskirts of Bideford

If we didn’t have children, we probably wouldn’t bother tbh

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By *aggonerMan 27 weeks ago

for a penny

Christmas Eve.

Down on Twelfth Night.

I don’t really celebrate but if I’m taking part in a ritual I like to do it properly.

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By *he milf next doorWoman 27 weeks ago

Cardiff-ish

Up December 1st down New Year’s Day

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By *oxesMan 27 weeks ago

Southend, Essex


"Usually the first weekend in December. Our eldest is born in December so we always give him the choice. Every year he wants the tree up before his birthday, so we oblige "

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By *oxesMan 27 weeks ago

Southend, Essex


"Here's a suggestion.

Since is take them down day is 6th January, why not make 6th December put it up day?"

Traditionally the 12 days of Christmas is the period in Christian theology that marks the span between the birth of Christ and the coming of the Magi, the three wise men.

So technically Christmas eve to January 6th the decoration are up.

However in the orthodox religious. Their Christmas is on January 6th or 7th (with the Ukrainian orthodox church having an unofficial day of solidarity on the 25th). So god knows if they have a 12 days of Christmas. Maybe someone in the forum could tell us.

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By *dward_TeagueMan 27 weeks ago

wolverhampton

It will go up in mid December and it gets packed away on 1st January

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By *anBerks OP   Man 27 weeks ago

Berkshire


"Here's a suggestion.

Since is take them down day is 6th January, why not make 6th December put it up day?"

I’ve always taken them down on the 5th Jan, it depends if you count Christmas Day itself as Day 1, different factions use a different day as Twelfth Night, although Epiphany is on Jan 6th.

Anyway does that mean I can put mine up on December 5th?

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By *om and JennieCouple 27 weeks ago

Chams or Socials

Depends if we’re having a home-grown tree or the one in the loft. Real is as late as possible, fake will be 9/10 December if I can be bothered. T did buy me a new bauble yesterday though which is hanging from the light fitting in dining room so I don’t lose it in a “safe place”

J x

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By *lex46TV/TS 27 weeks ago

Near Wells

About a week before Christmas and down on New Year's Eve.

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By *ietsenmakerMan 27 weeks ago

Hartford

Depends...if I'm home then a couple of days before, just the tree, down NYE ..if I'm away or in and out over the December/NY time I don't bother

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By *2000ManMan 27 weeks ago

Worthing

Usually a week before Christmas Eve.

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By *obilebottomMan 27 weeks ago

All over


"Here's a suggestion.

Since is take them down day is 6th January, why not make 6th December put it up day?

Traditionally the 12 days of Christmas is the period in Christian theology that marks the span between the birth of Christ and the coming of the Magi, the three wise men.

So technically Christmas eve to January 6th the decoration are up.

However in the orthodox religious. Their Christmas is on January 6th or 7th (with the Ukrainian orthodox church having an unofficial day of solidarity on the 25th). So god knows if they have a 12 days of Christmas. Maybe someone in the forum could tell us."

Not all orthodox christians celebrate on 6th Jan. I believe in Greece, Cyprus and Romania they celebrate on 25th Dec but presents are given on New year's day. 6th is epiphany day. May other christian countries celebrate epiphany much more than we do and is a holiday for some including Austria, Italy, Greece and few more.

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By *addyandtheprincessCouple 27 weeks ago

Cheltenham/Derby

Xmas tree goes up a day or two before Xmas day and goes down boxing day.

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By *azza72Man 27 weeks ago

Leeds

Christmas time

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By *eatrice BadinageWoman 27 weeks ago

In a Sparkly Dress

Closest weekend to thanksgiving is erection time

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago

Used to always be 2 weeks before going up and 2 weeks after coming down. Now it's just whenever I feel like it though never in November.

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By *andadbodMan 27 weeks ago

Liverpool

2nd saturday in december

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By *oxesMan 27 weeks ago

Southend, Essex


"Here's a suggestion.

Since is take them down day is 6th January, why not make 6th December put it up day?

Traditionally the 12 days of Christmas is the period in Christian theology that marks the span between the birth of Christ and the coming of the Magi, the three wise men.

So technically Christmas eve to January 6th the decoration are up.

However in the orthodox religious. Their Christmas is on January 6th or 7th (with the Ukrainian orthodox church having an unofficial day of solidarity on the 25th). So god knows if they have a 12 days of Christmas. Maybe someone in the forum could tell us.

Not all orthodox christians celebrate on 6th Jan. I believe in Greece, Cyprus and Romania they celebrate on 25th Dec but presents are given on New year's day. 6th is epiphany day. May other christian countries celebrate epiphany much more than we do and is a holiday for some including Austria, Italy, Greece and few more. "

You learn something new every day.

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By *aizyWoman 27 weeks ago

west midlands

First or second week of December.

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