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Has the porn industry created a false world for the swinging community?
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Having read a few threads over the years it would seem that some people’s expectations from our world matches that of the porn industry. My own experiences both as a single and with my wife have been very far from this.
What have your experiences been, like a porn movie or much more the real world? |
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Interesting point O.P. I think it's society wide.
There seems to be an expectation for all sex to be performative, cruel, degrading, painful and damn near abusive ( not to mention sometimes just humanly impossible ) and if you stick your head up to mention this labels like vanilla and boring start being levelled instead of some being able to see that they've lost the sensual, sexual, intimate side of themselves and can't make connectionsor get off anymore without a kink. |
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By *vaRoseWoman 26 weeks ago
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"Interesting point O.P. I think it's society wide.
There seems to be an expectation for all sex to be performative, cruel, degrading, painful and damn near abusive ( not to mention sometimes just humanly impossible ) and if you stick your head up to mention this labels like vanilla and boring start being levelled instead of some being able to see that they've lost the sensual, sexual, intimate side of themselves and can't make connectionsor get off anymore without a kink. "
As an out and happy kinky person there’s definitely some truth in that Granny.
The messages I get are often at the more extreme level of kink and the abuse comes from folk upset that I’m not willing to act like their personal porn star style kink dispenser and fulfill whatever fantasy they’ve cooked up this week.
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"Interesting point O.P. I think it's society wide.
There seems to be an expectation for all sex to be performative, cruel, degrading, painful and damn near abusive ( not to mention sometimes just humanly impossible ) and if you stick your head up to mention this labels like vanilla and boring start being levelled instead of some being able to see that they've lost the sensual, sexual, intimate side of themselves and can't make connectionsor get off anymore without a kink. "
I was with you up to the last bit.
As someone who does like kink, I dislike when people call nonkink people boring for only that factor.
Vanilla though I don't mind. Vanilla is an excellent base for a whole wide world of things, but it's still lovely on its own. I like vanilla ice cream and I also like tiramisu ice cream, the latter still containing that element of vanilla.
I also spend a lot of just normal human time with my kink partners. We cuddle up to watch films, spend hours lazing and touching each other, talk about anything and everything, and have societies version of normal sex too. The depth of connection I have with the people in my life remains. It's not just about those short periods where we beat the life out of each other.
For the original question, probably for those who consume it excessively. It'll depend on their general worldview, how easily influenced they are and many other factors though. I think it's perfectly possible to watch porn objectively without it affecting your view of the world. But there are certainly a lot of people that confuse what happens in some porn with how real life connections work 💜 |
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"Interesting point O.P. I think it's society wide.
There seems to be an expectation for all sex to be performative, cruel, degrading, painful and damn near abusive ( not to mention sometimes just humanly impossible ) and if you stick your head up to mention this labels like vanilla and boring start being levelled instead of some being able to see that they've lost the sensual, sexual, intimate side of themselves and can't make connectionsor get off anymore without a kink. "
Very well put GC. |
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I've nothing against kink or those that take part in it and enjoy it....... it's the expectation from some, that anyone who doesn't indulge should then be labelled.
I'm neither one nor the other ( or should say wasn't )
Something in my psyche clicks at times and only lust or depravity would do it but there'd be no point in expecting it or demanding it from me as it seems to be more in the moment with me......... ( or was ) which is one reason I'm not a fan of 'likes' lists. It's instinctual, partner, mood and stimulant dependent. |
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Porn is overwhelmingly made by men for men so it reflects male fantasies and psychology. The degradation side of porn which GC mentioned is almost all men degrading or humiliating women. Of course some women enjoy this within a safe consensual relationship but I'm sure many more have felt pressured to try things they didn't enjoy or were even physically dangerous for then (ch*King for example). I suspect that's particularly true in the swinging world because as GC also said there's an implicit or explicit pressure not to be seen as boring or 'vanilla'. |
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"Porn is overwhelmingly made by men for men so it reflects male fantasies and psychology. The degradation side of porn which GC mentioned is almost all men degrading or humiliating women. Of course some women enjoy this within a safe consensual relationship but I'm sure many more have felt pressured to try things they didn't enjoy or were even physically dangerous for then (ch*King for example). I suspect that's particularly true in the swinging world because as GC also said there's an implicit or explicit pressure not to be seen as boring or 'vanilla'."
Anything deemed 'ordinary ' just doesn't seem to cut it on here |
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"Porn is overwhelmingly made by men for men so it reflects male fantasies and psychology. The degradation side of porn which GC mentioned is almost all men degrading or humiliating women. Of course some women enjoy this within a safe consensual relationship but I'm sure many more have felt pressured to try things they didn't enjoy or were even physically dangerous for then (ch*King for example). I suspect that's particularly true in the swinging world because as GC also said there's an implicit or explicit pressure not to be seen as boring or 'vanilla'.
Anything deemed 'ordinary ' just doesn't seem to cut it on here "
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We’ve had nights that would rival some of the best porn but also experiences that would be very boring to watch for a casual observer.
In the main though, the effect on us is the same. We enjoy the encounter for its own merits. |
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"I've nothing against kink or those that take part in it and enjoy it....... it's the expectation from some, that anyone who doesn't indulge should then be labelled.
I'm neither one nor the other ( or should say wasn't )
Something in my psyche clicks at times and only lust or depravity would do it but there'd be no point in expecting it or demanding it from me as it seems to be more in the moment with me......... ( or was ) which is one reason I'm not a fan of 'likes' lists. It's instinctual, partner, mood and stimulant dependent. "
I think that summarises how things are for a lot of people.
Lots don’t have a ‘kink’ for want of a better phrase, but in a particular instance everything seems to align and you get caught up in that raw passion that just leads you somewhere. |
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People are probably led by what they see but they also probably do what they like too, so I don't think so on the whole. Some of the meets I was having 5 or 10 years ago, you wouldn't believe. Porn (soc media wise) wasn't half as mainstream or popular and although I remember it being talked about as problematic addiction wise, I don't remember it having a following, it was more seen as a glamour/erotic, over the top Hollywood style. I remember my first ever meet some 25+yrs ago, she pulled out a bag of leather toys that would would scare most even today. |
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I think porn has created unrealistic expectations to a lot. That women should look like this or guys should look like this. When the actresses and actors resemble a tiny percentage of the population. |
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As a trans woman porn sends a very unrealistic image.
Sure there's trans girls with huge cocks and big tits but we have to take testosterone blockers and estrogen too transition, which means the factory standard equipment eventually stops working the way it used to.
You can use pills and pumps and gel of course but you'd have to go far to find the monsters you see in porn.
On top of that you have girls who hate the fact that they have one at all and would rather partners pretended it wasn't the at all.
The amateur stuff is better but the "chicks with dicks" thing gives a very false impression |
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By *AYENCouple 26 weeks ago
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I doubt porn has impacted much on the 'swinging community' - it might however have had an affect on the deluge of single guys that think the women of Fab are so desperate for sex that a 'bored and horny' status accompanied by several pictures of their dick will bring a gaggle of gagging women to replace their right hand. K. |
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"Interesting point O.P. I think it's society wide.
There seems to be an expectation for all sex to be performative, cruel, degrading, painful and damn near abusive ( not to mention sometimes just humanly impossible ) and if you stick your head up to mention this labels like vanilla and boring start being levelled instead of some being able to see that they've lost the sensual, sexual, intimate side of themselves and can't make connectionsor get off anymore without a kink.
As an out and happy kinky person there’s definitely some truth in that Granny.
The messages I get are often at the more extreme level of kink and the abuse comes from folk upset that I’m not willing to act like their personal porn star style kink dispenser and fulfill whatever fantasy they’ve cooked up this week.
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I'm not sure how it's impacted the swinging community, but definitely agree with the above regarding attitudes to sex.
I get a lot of messages about BDSM fantasies that make it clear the sender doesn't understand the basics of what BDSM dynamics really involve, including consent and safety. |
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I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
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" a lot of messages about BDSM fantasies that make it clear the sender doesn't understand the basics of what BDSM dynamics really involve, including consent and safety. "
To be fair though, you get that just as much on BDSM specific sites.
I blame 50 shades but that's a whole other soapbox. |
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"Having read a few threads over the years it would seem that some people’s expectations from our world matches that of the porn industry. My own experiences both as a single and with my wife have been very far from this.
What have your experiences been, like a porn movie or much more the real world?"
In the world of porn, the ‘swinging’ storylines make meeting likeminded fun seekers seem really easy? Fab, and swinger clubs are the Polar opposite in reality.
Obviously I say this from a solo guy’s experiences, but even when I’ve visited swinger clubs as a couple, it’s been difficult to find a 4-way attraction, so one of you isn’t ‘taking one for the team’, unlike said porn movies, where everyone is gorgeous and keen to crack on…..  |
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"I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
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Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts |
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"I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts"
Is that because your perception of sex has been skewed by porn? |
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" a lot of messages about BDSM fantasies that make it clear the sender doesn't understand the basics of what BDSM dynamics really involve, including consent and safety.
To be fair though, you get that just as much on BDSM specific sites.
I blame 50 shades but that's a whole other soapbox."
Ah yes, 50 Shades of Shite  |
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By *bi HaiveMan 26 weeks ago
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"I doubt porn has impacted much on the 'swinging community' - it might however have had an affect on the deluge of single guys that think the women of Fab are so desperate for sex that a 'bored and horny' status accompanied by several pictures of their dick will bring a gaggle of gagging women to replace their right hand. K."
I'm with you 100% on this.
Just because people may have a few nude or teasing pics, some see that as an open invite to send horrendous wank fodder porn style scenarios and fantasies to you, without even a simple 'hello' introduction first.
As if just by having a profile people are open to doing anything and everything with everyone and anyone.
The truth couldn't be further apart. 🤦♂️🤷♂️ |
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"I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts"
Kinda proving my point , this isn't a porn site . It's a swinging site . Porn bores the life outta me . It's a bit like wrestling in my opinion, set up fakery for entertainment. Folk posting videos of their genuine encounters are just that a 1 minute moment in their own real life encounter imo worlds apart . |
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"I doubt porn has impacted much on the 'swinging community' - it might however have had an affect on the deluge of single guys that think the women of Fab are so desperate for sex that a 'bored and horny' status accompanied by several pictures of their dick will bring a gaggle of gagging women to replace their right hand. K."
I'd say about 90% of the action vids posted on Fab (mostly couples) are people trying to recreate porn. |
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"I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts
Is that because your perception of sex has been skewed by porn?"
It's more me seeing them as rhythmically challenged or a bit pokey. If I was licking pussy and it looked like I was tasting a lemon, I wouldn't be loading it. |
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"I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts
Kinda proving my point , this isn't a porn site . It's a swinging site . Porn bores the life outta me . It's a bit like wrestling in my opinion, set up fakery for entertainment. Folk posting videos of their genuine encounters are just that a 1 minute moment in their own real life encounter imo worlds apart ."
In the same breath, if you're recording your encounters to load here, you'd post your best bits? I didn't have the slightest thought to record as I was concentrating on (them) her, but posting a 10 sec vid of you whacking a few fingers into dry lips? It's hardly intimate - more oversharing. |
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It's more me seeing them as rhythmically challenged or a bit pokey. If I was licking pussy and it looked like I was tasting a lemon, I wouldn't be loading it. "
Different strokes for different folks , just because it's not what you enjoy seeing doesn't means others won't. 99.9999% of folk don't look good having sex , strange faces ,strange sounds , weird unflattering positions, but it's what feels good to them that counts and what turns them on that counts , and should they choose to post it if it turns someone else on then that's a bonus . Not all videos posted on site are for your singular viewing entertainment . |
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In the same breath, if you're recording your encounters to load here, you'd post your best bits? I didn't have the slightest thought to record as I was concentrating on (them) her, but posting a 10 sec vid of you whacking a few fingers into dry lips? It's hardly intimate - more oversharing. "
All different people get all different kinks .what's for me won't be for others and vice versa . The site is a big place with many users who won't share in your kinks , turn ons and fantasies and that's alright ,it's a very narrow view point to assume because you don't find something as a turn on others won't. |
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In the same breath, if you're recording your encounters to load here, you'd post your best bits? I didn't have the slightest thought to record as I was concentrating on (them) her, but posting a 10 sec vid of you whacking a few fingers into dry lips? It's hardly intimate - more oversharing. "
Also a bit hypocritical that your slating others "whacking fingers into dry lips" when your adding to the sea of whacking one out in the bath and uploading it , but aslong as someone enjoys it eh  |
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In the same breath, if you're recording your encounters to load here, you'd post your best bits? I didn't have the slightest thought to record as I was concentrating on (them) her, but posting a 10 sec vid of you whacking a few fingers into dry lips? It's hardly intimate - more oversharing.
All different people get all different kinks .what's for me won't be for others and vice versa . The site is a big place with many users who won't share in your kinks , turn ons and fantasies and that's alright ,it's a very narrow view point to assume because you don't find something as a turn on others won't. "
Strange this, as a wise woman said something earlier in this thread that sounded pretty judgey.
"I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
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Yet me making a comment of people loading clips that are a bit pokey - viewable to the public, is seen as narrow minded. |
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I've never been a fan of porn ive always preferred the amateur stuff.
In real life it's not perfect and people are not squirting like hose pipes and men don't all have over 8 inches.
We've been to clubs where people seem to be performing making the fake noises and getting all the great angles and it's probably what they think people want to see and hear. |
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In the same breath, if you're recording your encounters to load here, you'd post your best bits? I didn't have the slightest thought to record as I was concentrating on (them) her, but posting a 10 sec vid of you whacking a few fingers into dry lips? It's hardly intimate - more oversharing.
Also a bit hypocritical that your slating others "whacking fingers into dry lips" when your adding to the sea of whacking one out in the bath and uploading it , but aslong as someone enjoys it eh "
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I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Yet me making a comment of people loading clips that are a bit pokey - viewable to the public, is seen as narrow minded. "
That was in response to the OP asking "Having read a few threads over the years it would seem that some people’s expectations from our world matches that of the porn industry. My own experiences both as a single and with my wife have been very far from this.What have your experiences been, like a porn movie or much more the real world?".. you took it down the road of fab videos slating them but coincidentally have posted multiple bath wank videos. As I say each to there own but the hypocrisy is rife "eating pussy like a melon" whacking fingers into dry lips" and being "pokey" is what ye said . If your gonna post receipts post all the receipts ,just a thought .
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In the same breath, if you're recording your encounters to load here, you'd post your best bits? I didn't have the slightest thought to record as I was concentrating on (them) her, but posting a 10 sec vid of you whacking a few fingers into dry lips? It's hardly intimate - more oversharing.
Also a bit hypocritical that your slating others "whacking fingers into dry lips" when your adding to the sea of whacking one out in the bath and uploading it , but aslong as someone enjoys it eh
Thanks for the fabs!"
Oops I didn't fab them (shhhh, I didn't even watch them just looked at the stills) |
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I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Yet me making a comment of people loading clips that are a bit pokey - viewable to the public, is seen as narrow minded.
That was in response to the OP asking "Having read a few threads over the years it would seem that some people’s expectations from our world matches that of the porn industry. My own experiences both as a single and with my wife have been very far from this.What have your experiences been, like a porn movie or much more the real world?".. you took it down the road of fab videos slating them but coincidentally have posted multiple bath wank videos. As I say each to there own but the hypocrisy is rife "eating pussy like a melon" whacking fingers into dry lips" and being "pokey" is what ye said . If your gonna post receipts post all the receipts ,just a thought .
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You could always read my first post?? For some reason you've got a bit narky with me quoting you. |
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I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Yet me making a comment of people loading clips that are a bit pokey - viewable to the public, is seen as narrow minded.
That was in response to the OP asking "Having read a few threads over the years it would seem that some people’s expectations from our world matches that of the porn industry. My own experiences both as a single and with my wife have been very far from this.What have your experiences been, like a porn movie or much more the real world?".. you took it down the road of fab videos slating them but coincidentally have posted multiple bath wank videos. As I say each to there own but the hypocrisy is rife "eating pussy like a melon" whacking fingers into dry lips" and being "pokey" is what ye said . If your gonna post receipts post all the receipts ,just a thought .
You could always read my first post?? For some reason you've got a bit narky with me quoting you. "
I wasn't being narky what i said was kinda proving my point with your response "Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts" there not meant as adverts . . Next! .. sometimes written text gets taken the wrong way . To me it was a discussion |
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I think genuinely it's skewed the perception of what good sex is . Where that be in the world of fab or not .
There is something to be said of porn being so readily available at the swipe of a device .
There's a whole generation that believe that's what a sexual interaction consists of and that women (generally) only enjoy sex if it's hard-core practices.
Yet me making a comment of people loading clips that are a bit pokey - viewable to the public, is seen as narrow minded.
That was in response to the OP asking "Having read a few threads over the years it would seem that some people’s expectations from our world matches that of the porn industry. My own experiences both as a single and with my wife have been very far from this.What have your experiences been, like a porn movie or much more the real world?".. you took it down the road of fab videos slating them but coincidentally have posted multiple bath wank videos. As I say each to there own but the hypocrisy is rife "eating pussy like a melon" whacking fingers into dry lips" and being "pokey" is what ye said . If your gonna post receipts post all the receipts ,just a thought .
You could always read my first post?? For some reason you've got a bit narky with me quoting you.
I wasn't being narky what i said was kinda proving my point with your response "Having watched a few vids on here, I am honestly disappointed why some bother posting them.. they aren't exactly great adverts" there not meant as adverts . . Next! .. sometimes written text gets taken the wrong way . To me it was a discussion "
A discussion where you've personalised it and I generalised it. Where you posted receipts; made comment on my pics/vids but I've made non on yours or of anyone else's. Where your discussion of hardcore practices, and my comment of pokeyness, stems into a backtracking of their choice and can't please everyone.
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I don’t think it affects the vast majority of the community here.
I think it has a negative effect on young people, eg boys expecting girls to act like their porn counterparts.
I have also heard from a friend who works in family services, that she has had boys telling her that the best way to make sure you don’t get someone pregnant is to only have anal sex! |
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A discussion where you've personalised it and I generalised it. Where you posted receipts; made comment on my pics/vids but I've made non on yours or of anyone else's. Where your discussion of hardcore practices, and my comment of pokeyness, stems into a backtracking of their choice and can't please everyone.
One thing I do agree on - Next. "
I commented on your videos highlighting the hypocrisy in your staments about others videos I refer to my earlier statements "eating a melon" "whacking fingers into a dry hole" your comments would've had some validity if yu didn't have umpteen bath wank videos .. just an observation .
The point of my first comment on the thread was in response to a question being asked . |
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A discussion where you've personalised it and I generalised it. Where you posted receipts; made comment on my pics/vids but I've made non on yours or of anyone else's. Where your discussion of hardcore practices, and my comment of pokeyness, stems into a backtracking of their choice and can't please everyone.
One thing I do agree on - Next.
I commented on your videos highlighting the hypocrisy in your staments about others videos I refer to my earlier statements "eating a melon" "whacking fingers into a dry hole" your comments would've had some validity if yu didn't have umpteen bath wank videos .. just an observation .
The point of my first comment on the thread was in response to a question being asked ."
You've said it a few times now so... I talked about people being rhythmically challenged, and looking like they are licking a lemon. If people having sex in a stop start fashion is your thing and if a guy looking like he's got cat hair on his tongue is your thing I'll give you a muffin. I fail to see how we differ in thinking that someone trying to dry fingerbang someone is erotic.
There's nothing hypocritical in a me wanking, it's not like I don't know how to do it, and I'm not doing on somebody else.. are you against people showing boob pics for the same reason (as there's too many)? Your logic doesn't make sense. |
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