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Are you team sceptic or team believer?
I've always been an ardent sceptic but in the words of Fox Mulder "I want to believe"
I would be very open to being proven wrong by some irrefutable evidence of the paranormal. I listen to/watch a lot of podcasts and documentaries as I find it fascinating, but I'm mostly left thinking "what a load of rubbish".
There was an interesting one on iplayer I watched a couple of nights ago though about the last woman to be imprisoned for witchcraft in the UK. It was during WW2 as she kept giving away military secrets during seances and they couldn't figure out how she knew a warship had been sunk by the Germans before the admiralty of the navy knew.
Have you ever had any paranormal experiences? Are you a hardcore non believer?
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Yes I have had paranormal experiences. I wouldn't say I'm a believer but I'm not a non believer either.
I grow weary of people who don't know me and weren't there telling me I'm mistaken about my experiences though. |
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"Yes I have had paranormal experiences. I wouldn't say I'm a believer but I'm not a non believer either.
I grow weary of people who don't know me and weren't there telling me I'm mistaken about my experiences though. "
I think it's good to be open minded. I think if you weren't there, it's unhelpful to discredit other people's experiences even if you think there might be other explainations. It's still their lived experience.
A few of the podcasts I listen to will have a parapsychologist and a sceptic and listening to their discussions is always interesting as they often find flaws with eachothers views. Quite often the suggestions put forward by the sceptic are discredited as much as the other way around.
They never get to an answer though  |
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"I lurve the paranormal😍
Got tons of books about the subject. But am an ardent skeptic. However, I want to believe.
I have seen a UFO though
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Same! I find it fascinating and want to be proven wrong but I'm still a sceptic. Doesn't stop it being interesting though. |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
Depends the type of paranormal activity. I believe there is a lot we don't have a scientific explanation for (yet). I also will 100% believe someone who tells me they have seen a ghost / UFO / etc. whether I believe there was actually a ghost there is a different story, but everything you see is a hallucination (I work with complicated vision stuff), so the hallucination not being true to life isn't that weird |
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"Always wondered about the old abandoned hospital in cheadle off Kingway road heard loads about it would love to go check it out sometime
Is that known for being "haunted"? " yes there's been a few things on YouTube about it and the morgue is still fully intact too would love to try a night there see if anything happens |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
"Yes I have had paranormal experiences. I wouldn't say I'm a believer but I'm not a non believer either.
I grow weary of people who don't know me and weren't there telling me I'm mistaken about my experiences though. "
Your average person, especially the "if science doesn't have an answer it's wrong" brigade are usually too dumb to understand that there are unexplainable things. Everything you see is false, so there is no way of ever knowing 100% if things you see and other don't are real or not.
I'm a man of science and have had experiences (2 x ghosty types and 1 insane psychic one) that I cannot explain using our current understanding |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 weeks ago
Burley |
I was a paramedic for over 20 years. Present at the deaths of many people, been in places where many have died, morgues and mortuaries etc. I've never seen or felt anything that suggested there is more to a human being than flesh and bones powered by a small amount of cardio-electricity. Once switched off (died), there's nothing left, as far as I've ever witnessed, or believe in. |
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"Depends the type of paranormal activity. I believe there is a lot we don't have a scientific explanation for (yet). I also will 100% believe someone who tells me they have seen a ghost / UFO / etc. whether I believe there was actually a ghost there is a different story, but everything you see is a hallucination (I work with complicated vision stuff), so the hallucination not being true to life isn't that weird "
This is the thing, I believe people believe they have seen the things they have seen. What those things are is another story and there's plenty of things we don't have a scientific explanation for (yet) |
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I've never really believed, until a few years ago when the council knocked down the unstable dry wall between our little cul-de-sac and a cemetery. Both myself and my son witnessed our downstairs toilet door opening and closing at speed. That was creepy in itself, but then the flush was being pressed (it's a button flush on top on the systen), mostly in the small hours. It stopped when the wall was rebuilt. It was a bit spooky to begin with, then we realised the ghosts were just keeping our toilet smelling fresh. |
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"You know what makes me laugh. People who say they don't believe in anything paranormal. Yet when you bring up a ouija board, they get all scared and say don't use it. " I'd love to try 1 see if they actually work
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"I was a paramedic for over 20 years. Present at the deaths of many people, been in places where many have died, morgues and mortuaries etc. I've never seen or felt anything that suggested there is more to a human being than flesh and bones powered by a small amount of cardio-electricity. Once switched off (died), there's nothing left, as far as I've ever witnessed, or believe in."
Yes, and I think in my own experience of death I'd be inclined to agree. I've never witnessed anything myself that makes me believe in ghosts, or any spiritual energy after death, and being an atheist the idea of some kind of religious afterlife doesn't hold any weight. I'm still intrigued by the experiences of others though. |
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"You know what makes me laugh. People who say they don't believe in anything paranormal. Yet when you bring up a ouija board, they get all scared and say don't use it. "
they've watched too many horror films |
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By *ucka39Man 7 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"You know what makes me laugh. People who say they don't believe in anything paranormal. Yet when you bring up a ouija board, they get all scared and say don't use it. I'd love to try 1 see if they actually work "
Or try and contact a dead loved relative/close friend |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 weeks ago
Burley |
"You know what makes me laugh. People who say they don't believe in anything paranormal. Yet when you bring up a ouija board, they get all scared and say don't use it. "
This makes me laugh too. The Ouija board was nothing more than a board game made by Hasbro in the 19th century - the same company who make My Little Pony, Monopoly and Twister these days.  |
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"I've never really believed, until a few years ago when the council knocked down the unstable dry wall between our little cul-de-sac and a cemetery. Both myself and my son witnessed our downstairs toilet door opening and closing at speed. That was creepy in itself, but then the flush was being pressed (it's a button flush on top on the systen), mostly in the small hours. It stopped when the wall was rebuilt. It was a bit spooky to begin with, then we realised the ghosts were just keeping our toilet smelling fresh. "
They were very considerate spirits! I hope they squired some toilet duck around the rim while they were at it That does sound very creepy though. I'm not sure what I'd think if my toilet started flushing itself in the middle of the night especially living alone  |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS 7 weeks ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
I love a good shiver, but total sceptic. Just because something seems inexplicable doesn't mean it is paranormal.
As James Randi said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence  |
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"You know what makes me laugh. People who say they don't believe in anything paranormal. Yet when you bring up a ouija board, they get all scared and say don't use it.
This makes me laugh too. The Ouija board was nothing more than a board game made by Hasbro in the 19th century - the same company who make My Little Pony, Monopoly and Twister these days. "
Yeah and tbh I'm extremely sceptical about mediums/sceances anyway as so much of it has been discredited and can be explained with suggestion, psychology and downright trickery. Even if a medium told me something that literally nobody could know I don't think I'd be 100% convinced 😂 |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
I'd say 99% of the time medium are total frauds who use clever tricks to elicit responses. I do believe there is a bit more to the idea of psychic activity from an experience I had personally doing meditation |
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All ways believed in a after life and I don't mean hell or heaven.
More a different plane.
Have experienced my fair share of strange and wonderful stuff.
Some very haunted places around Andover.
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Plus living on ufo ally in Wiltshire I have seen a few strange sights.
Not sure alien what to vist Trowvegas.
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
"All ways believed in a after life and I don't mean hell or heaven.
More a different plane.
Have experienced my fair share of strange and wonderful stuff.
Some very haunted places around Andover.
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Plus living on ufo ally in Wiltshire I have seen a few strange sights.
Not sure alien what to vist Trowvegas.
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They just love the accent |
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"I'd say 99% of the time medium are total frauds who use clever tricks to elicit responses. I do believe there is a bit more to the idea of psychic activity from an experience I had personally doing meditation "
My experience wasn’t meditation or alcohol induced
It was out walking my dog years ago
I’ve since found out the same thing happened to other people in the same place in Darlington |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
"I'd say 99% of the time medium are total frauds who use clever tricks to elicit responses. I do believe there is a bit more to the idea of psychic activity from an experience I had personally doing meditation
My experience wasn’t meditation or alcohol induced
It was out walking my dog years ago
I’ve since found out the same thing happened to other people in the same place in Darlington "
Where in Darlo if you don't mind me asking? I'm not a native but there does seem to be a lot more paranormal stuff here than wherever I've lived before |
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"Yes I have had paranormal experiences. I wouldn't say I'm a believer but I'm not a non believer either.
I grow weary of people who don't know me and weren't there telling me I'm mistaken about my experiences though.
Your average person, especially the "if science doesn't have an answer it's wrong" brigade are usually too dumb to understand that there are unexplainable things. Everything you see is false, so there is no way of ever knowing 100% if things you see and other don't are real or not.
I'm a man of science and have had experiences (2 x ghosty types and 1 insane psychic one) that I cannot explain using our current understanding"
I always prefaced accounts of my experiences by saying that I had no explanation but I was not saying they had anything to do with dead people. Still people told me I was wrong 🤷♀️ |
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"I'd say 99% of the time medium are total frauds who use clever tricks to elicit responses. I do believe there is a bit more to the idea of psychic activity from an experience I had personally doing meditation "
Yes the famous ones are all frauds.
Out of interest I went to several medium evenings. I saw nothing to convince me that they were anything other than deluded at best and cynical exploiters at worst. I think some of them actually believed they were in contact with dead people and the lucky recipients of the messages were so pleased to have been chosen that they clutched on to the tiniest scrap of 'evidence'. |
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"All ways believed in a after life and I don't mean hell or heaven.
More a different plane.
Have experienced my fair share of strange and wonderful stuff.
Some very haunted places around Andover.
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Plus living on ufo ally in Wiltshire I have seen a few strange sights.
Not sure alien what to vist Trowvegas.
They just love the accent "
Someone has too  |
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"The human brain is a prolific trickster.
Modern neuroscience is showing us just how insane brain function is. It's effectively a guessing machine, just sometimes the guesses are a bit weird "
Absolutely! The brain has to process the things we experience somehow using the senses we have got. |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
"I'd say 99% of the time medium are total frauds who use clever tricks to elicit responses. I do believe there is a bit more to the idea of psychic activity from an experience I had personally doing meditation
Yes the famous ones are all frauds.
Out of interest I went to several medium evenings. I saw nothing to convince me that they were anything other than deluded at best and cynical exploiters at worst. I think some of them actually believed they were in contact with dead people and the lucky recipients of the messages were so pleased to have been chosen that they clutched on to the tiniest scrap of 'evidence'. "
For me the contacting the dead stuff is far less likely than the ability read minds or astrally project. Physics is showing that things are connected in ways we can't perceive i.e quantum entanglement I don't think QE explains speaking to the dead imho |
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"Are you team sceptic or team believer?
I've always been an ardent sceptic but in the words of Fox Mulder "I want to believe"
I would be very open to being proven wrong by some irrefutable evidence of the paranormal. I listen to/watch a lot of podcasts and documentaries as I find it fascinating, but I'm mostly left thinking "what a load of rubbish".
There was an interesting one on iplayer I watched a couple of nights ago though about the last woman to be imprisoned for witchcraft in the UK. It was during WW2 as she kept giving away military secrets during seances and they couldn't figure out how she knew a warship had been sunk by the Germans before the admiralty of the navy knew.
Have you ever had any paranormal experiences? Are you a hardcore non believer?
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I love the Paranormal and it's always intrigued me.
I'm neither a believer or a no believer so defiantly in the middle at the moment.
There's lots of stuff out there I don't believe, a lot of these ghost hunting programmes and mediums, it's all made up or exaggerated for tv.
I love Uncanny and Danny Collin though and am currently reading his book too.
People are genuinely witnessing something and what gets me is when two or more people witness the same thing. Something must be happening but what is it?
And people have genuinely scared for years about lots of things that are going on and been happening to them. Not saying it is a ghost there but it must be something they are witnessing.
The Poltergeist of Battersea Park and The Enfield Poltergeist are very interesting stories too.
Would be something I'd like to pursue more if I had the time  |
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I'd suggest watching some of the Derren Brown investigates series on YT. DB uses "cold-reading" in his earlier career performance work, which is the same technique "psychic" mediums and the like employ. Probably garnered from the same books to be fair.
Humans are irrational and complex creatures. We suffer cognitive dissonance and bias. Some really do want to believe as it gives them comfort.
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DB's final observations were that for some, who deep down really do know it's a sham and fraudulent, chose to ignore that because the comfort they derive from the performance is of more value to them than the truth.
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I'm with DB on this. The truth matters more than someone else's feelings, especially if there is a financial dimension involved.
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I love the Paranormal and it's always intrigued me.
I'm neither a believer or a no believer so defiantly in the middle at the moment.
There's lots of stuff out there I don't believe, a lot of these ghost hunting programmes and mediums, it's all made up or exaggerated for tv.
I love Uncanny and Danny Collin though and am currently reading his book too.
People are genuinely witnessing something and what gets me is when two or more people witness the same thing. Something must be happening but what is it?
And people have genuinely scared for years about lots of things that are going on and been happening to them. Not saying it is a ghost there but it must be something they are witnessing.
The Poltergeist of Battersea Park and The Enfield Poltergeist are very interesting stories too.
Would be something I'd like to pursue more if I had the time "
Yes I listen to/watch the Uncanny podcast and TV show and the cases with multiple unrelated witnesses always intrigue me. Maybe it's a mass visual/auditory hallucination, or there's another scientific explination that just hasn't been discovered yet, but it lends more weight that "something" has happened when there's multiple people experiencing the same phenomenon. |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
"I'd suggest watching some of the Derren Brown investigates series on YT. DB uses "cold-reading" in his earlier career performance work, which is the same technique "psychic" mediums and the like employ. Probably garnered from the same books to be fair.
Humans are irrational and complex creatures. We suffer cognitive dissonance and bias. Some really do want to believe as it gives them comfort.
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DB's final observations were that for some, who deep down really do know it's a sham and fraudulent, chose to ignore that because the comfort they derive from the performance is of more value to them than the truth.
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I'm with DB on this. The truth matters more than someone else's feelings, especially if there is a financial dimension involved.
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That sums up the human experience, we don't tend to think about what we pay attention to and what we don't. There are some great illustrations of this in psychology - such as the video where you are tasked with counting how many footballers walk in and out of the shot. At the end you are asked if you saw the gorilla and when it's played back some dude in a gorilla suit has just swanned across the screen and you don't notice. |
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"I'd suggest watching some of the Derren Brown investigates series on YT. DB uses "cold-reading" in his earlier career performance work, which is the same technique "psychic" mediums and the like employ. Probably garnered from the same books to be fair.
Humans are irrational and complex creatures. We suffer cognitive dissonance and bias. Some really do want to believe as it gives them comfort.
.
DB's final observations were that for some, who deep down really do know it's a sham and fraudulent, chose to ignore that because the comfort they derive from the performance is of more value to them than the truth.
.
I'm with DB on this. The truth matters more than someone else's feelings, especially if there is a financial dimension involved.
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Yes I've seen some of his stuff on this and I agree. I think most, if not all, psychics and mediums are tricksters using psychology to manipulate people into thinking they're talking to their loved ones. And when people are vulnerable they will chose to believe even if deep down they know it's not real.
But there is other paranormal phenomenon that occurs totally unrelated to psychics and mediumship that I find more interesting and intriguing. |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
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P.s. the Watcher guys are good on youtube - a sceptic and a believer on the case.
IMHO i think they dont embelish whatever they show find ( some of ther episodes they get nothing investigation wise) |
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By *zeroMan 7 weeks ago
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I'm interested in tne Paranormal. Stories of unexplained events and monsters that have been sighted. I don't really believe in ghosts as i think a lot of that has to do with human fear and your mind playing tricks on you. This is of course from someone who has never experienced anything like that.
I do believe in aliens however. Mainly because the universe is so vast and the galaxy we are in has never truly been explored, I don't think we are the only life that exists. |
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"P.s. the Watcher guys are good on youtube - a sceptic and a believer on the case.
IMHO i think they dont embelish whatever they show find ( some of ther episodes they get nothing investigation wise)"
Thanks for the recommendation will have a look, always open for good recommendations  |
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By *irsSubCouple 7 weeks ago
Darlington |
"Love this chat!
I want to believe ( and would love to go ghost hunting) but also will try to explain everything logically first.
A sort of on the fence hybrid
Ow xn"
With ghosts... The appearance of ghosts tend to follow similar patterns, translucent, grey and often wearing dresses. The human brain is wired to look at features then make a guess. We commonly see where this goes wrong in a condition called Charles Bonnet syndrome. It doesn't take the largest leap to notice that how ghosts appear is remarkably similar to how beans of light appear from windows etc in dark dusty houses. My best guess is the brain just gets confused and you actually "see" the ghost, doesn't mean it's there though |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 weeks ago
Burley |
I don't think belief in the paranormal is any different to the belief in gods, religion, fate, luck, kharma etc. Random occurrences that are translated by the mind of an individual, based on brain chemistry, external experiences and recognition of long-held mass beliefs. |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
Atlantic Wharf |
"I'm interested in tne Paranormal. Stories of unexplained events and monsters that have been sighted. I don't really believe in ghosts as i think a lot of that has to do with human fear and your mind playing tricks on you. This is of course from someone who has never experienced anything like that.
I do believe in aliens however. Mainly because the universe is so vast and the galaxy we are in has never truly been explored, I don't think we are the only life that exists."
I agree also but thats another forum entirely!
I think it was Neil Degrasse Tyson that said... if you dipped a glass into the ocean and there was no fish ( no life) in the glass... would you conclude that there was no life in the ocean?
Universe is waay too big. |
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"I'm interested in tne Paranormal. Stories of unexplained events and monsters that have been sighted. I don't really believe in ghosts as i think a lot of that has to do with human fear and your mind playing tricks on you. This is of course from someone who has never experienced anything like that.
I do believe in aliens however. Mainly because the universe is so vast and the galaxy we are in has never truly been explored, I don't think we are the only life that exists."
I 100% believe that other life must exist in the universe! Do I believe in little green men in flying saucers? Less so.
That's not to say UFOs don't exist. |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
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"P.s. the Watcher guys are good on youtube - a sceptic and a believer on the case.
IMHO i think they dont embelish whatever they show find ( some of ther episodes they get nothing investigation wise)
Thanks for the recommendation will have a look, always open for good recommendations "
No probs, Shane and Ryan they are called - Watcher TV ( used to be on Buzzfeed) |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
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"Love this chat!
I want to believe ( and would love to go ghost hunting) but also will try to explain everything logically first.
A sort of on the fence hybrid
Ow xn
With ghosts... The appearance of ghosts tend to follow similar patterns, translucent, grey and often wearing dresses. The human brain is wired to look at features then make a guess. We commonly see where this goes wrong in a condition called Charles Bonnet syndrome. It doesn't take the largest leap to notice that how ghosts appear is remarkably similar to how beans of light appear from windows etc in dark dusty houses. My best guess is the brain just gets confused and you actually "see" the ghost, doesn't mean it's there though "
Nice will google Charles Bonet Syndrome now 🤗 |
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I’ve had a few.
1. I had a spare out building at my house. We only had one key for it. I lost the key for it for days. I could occasionally hear whistling from inside the out building. Eventually we kicked the door down to gain access - the key was on the floor in the middle of the empty room of the outbuilding.
2. As a kid, a boy I know passed away quite violently. One rainy night several years later I walked passed his house and I saw what looked to be him stood underneath a willow tree in his garden, looking just as young as back in the day. I legged it as fast as I could.
I think there’s a logical explanation for all things paranormal. But I do enjoy the weirdness and scariness of unexplained moments. |
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By *zeroMan 7 weeks ago
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"I'm interested in tne Paranormal. Stories of unexplained events and monsters that have been sighted. I don't really believe in ghosts as i think a lot of that has to do with human fear and your mind playing tricks on you. This is of course from someone who has never experienced anything like that.
I do believe in aliens however. Mainly because the universe is so vast and the galaxy we are in has never truly been explored, I don't think we are the only life that exists.
I 100% believe that other life must exist in the universe! Do I believe in little green men in flying saucers? Less so.
That's not to say UFOs don't exist. "
Maybe humans are just some alien beings version of The Sims that they just forgot about 😄 |
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I love a conspiracy theory, not sure if I fully believe in the paranormal.. I'm more inclined to believe in aliens because of the whole "How were the pyramids built?" debate so I guess I can't close off my mind to ghosts and spirits but I'm not an active believer in them. |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
Atlantic Wharf |
"I'm interested in tne Paranormal. Stories of unexplained events and monsters that have been sighted. I don't really believe in ghosts as i think a lot of that has to do with human fear and your mind playing tricks on you. This is of course from someone who has never experienced anything like that.
I do believe in aliens however. Mainly because the universe is so vast and the galaxy we are in has never truly been explored, I don't think we are the only life that exists.
I 100% believe that other life must exist in the universe! Do I believe in little green men in flying saucers? Less so.
That's not to say UFOs don't exist.
Maybe humans are just some alien beings version of The Sims that they just forgot about 😄"
That would explain alot 🤭🤭🤭 |
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"I'm interested in tne Paranormal. Stories of unexplained events and monsters that have been sighted. I don't really believe in ghosts as i think a lot of that has to do with human fear and your mind playing tricks on you. This is of course from someone who has never experienced anything like that.
I do believe in aliens however. Mainly because the universe is so vast and the galaxy we are in has never truly been explored, I don't think we are the only life that exists.
I 100% believe that other life must exist in the universe! Do I believe in little green men in flying saucers? Less so.
That's not to say UFOs don't exist.
Maybe humans are just some alien beings version of The Sims that they just forgot about 😄"
Isn't that what Scientologists believe |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
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"I love a conspiracy theory, not sure if I fully believe in the paranormal.. I'm more inclined to believe in aliens because of the whole "How were the pyramids built?" debate so I guess I can't close off my mind to ghosts and spirits but I'm not an active believer in them."
The recent news regarding the Pyramids is wild!
I would recommend checking it out |
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"I’ve had a few.
1. I had a spare out building at my house. We only had one key for it. I lost the key for it for days. I could occasionally hear whistling from inside the out building. Eventually we kicked the door down to gain access - the key was on the floor in the middle of the empty room of the outbuilding.
2. As a kid, a boy I know passed away quite violently. One rainy night several years later I walked passed his house and I saw what looked to be him stood underneath a willow tree in his garden, looking just as young as back in the day. I legged it as fast as I could.
I think there’s a logical explanation for all things paranormal. But I do enjoy the weirdness and scariness of unexplained moments."
That does sound pretty freaky! |
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"I love a conspiracy theory, not sure if I fully believe in the paranormal.. I'm more inclined to believe in aliens because of the whole "How were the pyramids built?" debate so I guess I can't close off my mind to ghosts and spirits but I'm not an active believer in them.
The recent news regarding the Pyramids is wild!
I would recommend checking it out"
Ooh yes I saw this the other day. The research paper hasn't been peer reviewed though so it could be a lot of nonsense/exaggeration! |
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"What always makes me chuckle is "why don't you get ghosts dressed in modern clothing or cavemen ghosts? Or animal ghosts?"
Fair questions " cavemen ghosts? Maybe you've just explained the yeti/bigfoot. |
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"What always makes me chuckle is "why don't you get ghosts dressed in modern clothing or cavemen ghosts? Or animal ghosts?"
Fair questions cavemen ghosts? Maybe you've just explained the yeti/bigfoot. "
now it all makes sense!! |
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"I'd suggest watching some of the Derren Brown investigates series on YT. DB uses "cold-reading" in his earlier career performance work, which is the same technique "psychic" mediums and the like employ. Probably garnered from the same books to be fair.
Humans are irrational and complex creatures. We suffer cognitive dissonance and bias. Some really do want to believe as it gives them comfort.
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DB's final observations were that for some, who deep down really do know it's a sham and fraudulent, chose to ignore that because the comfort they derive from the performance is of more value to them than the truth.
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I'm with DB on this. The truth matters more than someone else's feelings, especially if there is a financial dimension involved.
Yes I've seen some of his stuff on this and I agree. I think most, if not all, psychics and mediums are tricksters using psychology to manipulate people into thinking they're talking to their loved ones. And when people are vulnerable they will chose to believe even if deep down they know it's not real.
But there is other paranormal phenomenon that occurs totally unrelated to psychics and mediumship that I find more interesting and intriguing. "
The financial implications are sad when people are exploited and vulnerable that way.
"Clever Hans" the horse that could do Maths has taught us that even an animal with a not so big brain can read very subtle social cues from people and respond accordingly. It hardly surprising then that humans would exploit others so
Those after financial gain in this area aside, I'm pretty skeptical generally myself.
The possibility of UFOs (as I've seen mentioned here) on the other hand I wouldn't class as paranormal at all. |
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"I love a conspiracy theory, not sure if I fully believe in the paranormal.. I'm more inclined to believe in aliens because of the whole "How were the pyramids built?" debate so I guess I can't close off my mind to ghosts and spirits but I'm not an active believer in them.
The recent news regarding the Pyramids is wild!
I would recommend checking it out
Ooh yes I saw this the other day. The research paper hasn't been peer reviewed though so it could be a lot of nonsense/exaggeration! "
Just had a quick look at this. One Egyptian archeologist says "The claim of using radar inside the pyramid is false, and the techniques employed are neither scientifically approved nor validated." but it could still be true, plenty of theories were ridiculed before proved true.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's real and I believe it could be.. whatever made the pyramids is wild enough, it's plausible that there is a city underneath |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 weeks ago
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"I love a conspiracy theory, not sure if I fully believe in the paranormal.. I'm more inclined to believe in aliens because of the whole "How were the pyramids built?" debate so I guess I can't close off my mind to ghosts and spirits but I'm not an active believer in them.
The recent news regarding the Pyramids is wild!
I would recommend checking it out
Ooh yes I saw this the other day. The research paper hasn't been peer reviewed though so it could be a lot of nonsense/exaggeration! "
On the plus side, tourism interest to the region has increased and continues to increase steadily, so - yay for the "research"  |
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I believe I saw a ghost as a child, but I do not belive in ghosts... 🤔
The key element to that sentence and this whole debate is the word 'believe'. There is no factual reference, only that which we choose to perceive. I categorically believe when that's it, that's it. Done. Blackness. Gone. (but again, just a belief; I don't 'know')
...but do I get scared by walking through spooky places in the dark? You bet your sweet ass I do!! That's the power of imagination, not ghosts and ghouls. |
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By *a LunaWoman 7 weeks ago
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"Yes I have had paranormal experiences. I wouldn't say I'm a believer but I'm not a non believer either.
I grow weary of people who don't know me and weren't there telling me I'm mistaken about my experiences though. "
This, though I tend to believe more than I disbelieve - but mainly because my experiences have been comforting.
If they were hellish I’d probably disbelieve more!  |
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"Depends the type of paranormal activity. I believe there is a lot we don't have a scientific explanation for (yet). I also will 100% believe someone who tells me they have seen a ghost / UFO / etc. whether I believe there was actually a ghost there is a different story, but everything you see is a hallucination (I work with complicated vision stuff), so the hallucination not being true to life isn't that weird "
I Have to disagree, unless groups 20 people see exactly the same thing week in week out at the same location. And the "hallucination" moves between the group. |
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"I believe I saw a ghost as a child, but I do not belive in ghosts... 🤔
The key element to that sentence and this whole debate is the word 'believe'. There is no factual reference, only that which we choose to perceive. I categorically believe when that's it, that's it. Done. Blackness. Gone. (but again, just a belief; I don't 'know')
...but do I get scared by walking through spooky places in the dark? You bet your sweet ass I do!! That's the power of imagination, not ghosts and ghouls."
Yeah the bit I find hard to reconcile is the fact I don't believe in an afterlife, nor heaven and hell, not gods/deities of any sort. So what are these spirits/ghosts then and where would they come from? If there is no hell then demons and evil spirits can't exist can they?
I am positive that when we die, we die, and that's it. But I can't help being bloody intrigued by people's experiences of unexplained phenomenon and like you say, be scared of creepy dark places where things might jump out  |
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By *ischi3fMan 7 weeks ago
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"I love a conspiracy theory, not sure if I fully believe in the paranormal.. I'm more inclined to believe in aliens because of the whole "How were the pyramids built?" debate so I guess I can't close off my mind to ghosts and spirits but I'm not an active believer in them.
The recent news regarding the Pyramids is wild!
I would recommend checking it out
Ooh yes I saw this the other day. The research paper hasn't been peer reviewed though so it could be a lot of nonsense/exaggeration! "
Wwwww ok duely noted  |
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Our vision is actually quite low bandwidth. When we "see" something it's not an accurate image of the outside word because the optic nerves aren't capable of carrying that amount of information. Nor is the brain fast enough to process that amount of information.
What we perceive as real is based on a model in our head that we've built up over our entire lives and our mind uses small cues from the eyes to trigger (and slightly modify) that model. So to a large extent we only see what we expect to see and if we expect to see things like ghosts or fairies then we sometimes will. |
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I've mentioned it before but I know of a gentleman with a masters degree in physics and he was doing another masters in quantum mechanics.
His research for his second masters was based on observations that there are "entities" around us which we cannot see, but certain equipment can faintly detect or at least infer.
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He said to me that "My religion teaches that these "beings" are devils and angels, but I believe there is a much more rational explanation to this, even if we don't fully understand it. My personal thought is they are intra-dimensional beings, but exactly what they are I have no idea.".
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Unfortunately he told me his lecturer strongly advised that he drop his research, because "they will come for you and they will kill you, as this is blasphemous in the religion. It will challenge them and their authority."
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He said he changed his dissertation to comply and left his country. I asked him if he was still working on his original research and he said "Yes, of course. This is too significant not to. But even here in the UK I have to be careful."
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Alas I lost touch with him, but I suspect we might meet again at a few events coming up later this year and I want to talk more.
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It's certainly plausible.
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We spoke at great length about his religion and it was very clear he is a man of science, with no love for his religion at all. He hated it, in fact. |
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By (user no longer on site) 7 weeks ago
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I lived in a hunted house for years even my kids tried to tell me it wasn't till I saw the little girl heard her playing in our loft at night moved boxes scattered all over even when I tidy up.
Then the last time I saw her she ran into me felt her almost knocked me over then I said get out and watch her run through the front door from the passage.
Never saw her again. |
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"I left my car open keys in the ignition and engine running went inside the house when I came outside the car had gone.
If that's not paranormal activity nothing is!
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That must have been a ghost!! 😱 |
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"Our vision is actually quite low bandwidth. When we "see" something it's not an accurate image of the outside word because the optic nerves aren't capable of carrying that amount of information. Nor is the brain fast enough to process that amount of information.
What we perceive as real is based on a model in our head that we've built up over our entire lives and our mind uses small cues from the eyes to trigger (and slightly modify) that model. So to a large extent we only see what we expect to see and if we expect to see things like ghosts or fairies then we sometimes will."
I feel like this makes a lot of sense. |
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I've had a long interest in perception as an active rather than passive process.
There was a famous study by Erismann and Kohler called the Innsbruck Goggle Experiments where Kohler wore a special contraption that inverted his vision so that up was down and vice versa. After a few weeks his brain had adapted so that he could see the world the right way up and could even ride a bicycle. When he eventually stopped using the contraption the world seemed upside down again until his brain readapted.
Between the age of 19 and 23 I took psilocybin on an almost weekly basis. I'm definitely not recommending anyone does this by the way. The first time was an extreme experience and fortunately I had two trusted companions who looked after me. The second time I realised that my mind had already learned that perception could be radically altered and the experience was much milder. After a few years I found I had some control of the hallucinations and cured myself of severe arachnophobia by desensitising myself by looking in a mirror and visualising spiders crawl on my face. I knew I'd succeeded when I burst out laughing watching a tarantula crawl into my mouth in the mirror.
In summary, I am convinced that what we "see" is the result of an active mental process that has evolved over a period of at least 500 million years and although it gives us a view of the world that is just about accurate enough for us to survive, what we see isn't real in the naive sense but rather mediated by maluable mental processes that are unique to each individual. Therefore eyewitness accounts are not reliable and you can't 100% trust what you see even with your own eyes.
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By *ooBulMan 7 weeks ago
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Well, Einstein says alternate realities are possible.....
I don't know really. Not seen dopplegangers before someone dies nor ghosts.
Thank god relatives aren't contacting cos lets face it me & my cousins have had a lot of shit to put up with when we were teenagers & adults in the past...
I'm in the camp of I'll believe it when I see it...  |
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Complete skeptic.
Just because something can't be immediately explained by current science doesn't make it paranormal or (worse) subject of faith miracles. Down that road is a millennia of ignorance fed superstition |
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Sorry, previous message had severe typos!
I'm out to lunch on this as a former ardent non believer.
I have has sme experiences that ai can't explain, 3 in total, and it did make me think twice.
I come from a known family of non believers, and two old aunts told me their stories they kept secret for fear of ridicule that happened in London in the 1970's. |
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Was a skeptic but with all the amount of ghosting I received I might start to believe. Jokes aside, I tend to be strongly skeptical about some paranormal phenomena, especially "ghostly/demonic" manifestations. I do believe in aliens, not the little grey shits with the anal fetish but you know, some blob of cells swimming in a cold ocean on a moon orbiting Jupiter, for example. |
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"I sometimes wonder if 'paranormal 'experiences are just a glitch in 'time,after all we as yet don't understand fully the various dynamics of of space and time etc."
They may be.
But I'd generally put my attention on states of mind and psychology of consciousness etc |
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Definitely believe and have experienced strange unexplained events, mainly in the house I lived in with brother and parents during my teenage years. We were all convinced there was some "ghost-like" presence as we all experienced something
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I did the paranormal experience at the Bodmin Jail Hotel recently (Amazing place, highly recommended).
As a sceptic though, I didn't get the same thrill as the believers down in the basement cells for the evening.
...I don't think I helped matters much when the medium was 'in contact with an energy in the room' asking it to "swing the amulet clockwise if you are a boy or anticlockwise if you are a girl" and I piped up from the back, "what if they're a they/them?!" |
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There is a really interesting case which supports reincarnation or genetic memory. A young girl Dorothy Eady was declared dead and later found awake and healthy. She now had new memories of being a different person who worked in an Egyptian temple. She was able to describe it in detail. Later in her life she went to Egypt and entered the temple that she claimed to have worked in. She described features and hidden tunnels to Egyptologists that were unknown to them. She was correct. |
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"I did the paranormal experience at the Bodmin Jail Hotel recently (Amazing place, highly recommended).
As a sceptic though, I didn't get the same thrill as the believers down in the basement cells for the evening.
...I don't think I helped matters much when the medium was 'in contact with an energy in the room' asking it to "swing the amulet clockwise if you are a boy or anticlockwise if you are a girl" and I piped up from the back, "what if they're a they/them?!""
You're such a dick 🤣 |
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"I did the paranormal experience at the Bodmin Jail Hotel recently (Amazing place, highly recommended).
As a sceptic though, I didn't get the same thrill as the believers down in the basement cells for the evening.
...I don't think I helped matters much when the medium was 'in contact with an energy in the room' asking it to "swing the amulet clockwise if you are a boy or anticlockwise if you are a girl" and I piped up from the back, "what if they're a they/them?!""
"Then the cuckoo comes out" came the medium's reply. |
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By *ddie1966Man 4 weeks ago
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I'm a devout sceptic but I want to believe.
As a digital imaging specialist I've been asked to take a look at so many irrefutable images of the paranormal that people have captured and not a single one could stand up to the claims. |
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By *mf123Man 4 weeks ago
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I once believed in the power of wishes the power of the moon n stars but that was all part of the fantasy i created for myself to explain my good fortune at the time but ghosts spooks gods n monsters id need to see feel n touch to believe |
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I grew up very religious and believed in the supernatural, particularly jinn. I even saw someone get 'possessed' by one.
Now that I'm older, I don't believe in them or anything supernatural. I'm a materialist, so I'm happy to say we don't have a material explanation for everything that happens. However, I do always try to be respectful of people's beliefs and experiences as these things can feel or are very real to those experiencing them. |
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