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By (user no longer on site) OP 41 weeks ago
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Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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By *avie65Man 41 weeks ago
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It is being introduced here as well. I don’t know who will enforce it as the traffic attendants only patrol one town in the council area.
I also think it will be a cash cow, for a while at least. Many households have 2 or more cars but, older properties may only have room for 1 car or the car is too wide to fit on the driveway so they have to park on the pavement/road. |
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If they ban parking on over the kirb, there's roads I can think of where the local buses (even the 'small' buses tend to be much wider than a car) will no longer be able to fit down ... life could become very 'interesting' very quickly? |
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There’s about 90 houses in our road which is a cul-de-sac. We live very close to the junction with the main road and where we park outside our house, the road is just about 2 cars wide. The pavement is only about 2 feet wide and there’s only a pathway on one side of the road, the other side is a very steep grass bank.
If we don’t put one wheel on the pavement the council bin lorry and recycling truck wouldn’t get past. Even the supermarket delivery vans would struggle.
Been asking the council for years to scrape some of the bank off but they refuse. |
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This is amazing. I live near a road where all the cars park mostly on pavement. It's a road towards the village centre and school. People have been forced to walk in the road and pushchairs and wheelchair can't get through the space and have to go on road. |
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"If you're in a wheelchair or pushing a pram this can't be implemented soon enough "
When my daughter was young I took great joy pushing her pram against cars that had taken up too much of the footpath. Probably caused hundreds of pounds of damage over a few years.
There are areas cars need to park on the footpath but they should be leaving room. |
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"I thought this was already an offence?
According to the highway code and my driving instructor when I was 17."
Exactly, it's always been an offence.
Most traffic wardens ignore it depending on the area.
But in area's where car's double park, park on on near a bend/ junction, starting on people parking on the kerb is going to be a difficult one to enforce.
But it's an easy money maker for councils and in most cases will probably involve no interaction with offenders.
As a photo is all that's required.
But yeah I always thought it was something that's been in place for years.
Given the amount of bad drivers that jump red lights every minute of the day I don't think many will care about parking on a kerb. |
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If you can’t park on the road without impeding other vehicles you should not be parking there, that in itself is an offence, utilising the pavement and causing an obstruction to those using it is not acceptable either. |
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By *usie pTV/TS 41 weeks ago
taunton |
Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London or Scotland. Exceptions are allowed in limited circumstances. You should not park partially or wholly on the pavement elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Has anyone ever seen a sign that says its Ok to park on the pavement |
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I live on a narrow and quiet road where we have to park partially on the pavement or you'd not get vehicles through.
Generally there is little through traffic so we can get away with it, but on busier roads it infuriates me to see cars blocking pavements. |
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People will have to adjust their behaviour and they will already know that they are breaking the law. There's no right to have road space for parking near to where you want to deposit your vehicle. People will have to consider their choices.
And especially, when buying huge oversized vehicles, which inhibits road and parking space as well as helps to lead to more deaths, including from pollution |
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I'm way out in the sticks, so we don't have kerbs- which is a handy excuse for the council to avoid sending anyone to pick up the copious amounts of shit dropped by passing cars, do any road maintenance or cut the verges more than once a year- usually about 2 months after it becomes impossible to see while pulling out of the side road on the NSL lane.
Good job i don't get charged an absolute fucking fortune for fuck all besides getting the bin emptied eh?  |
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"Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London or Scotland. Exceptions are allowed in limited circumstances. You should not park partially or wholly on the pavement elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Has anyone ever seen a sign that says its Ok to park on the pavement"
Seen a few signs. And I was thinking this is the rule. But now they want to make money out of it. |
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By *angzMan 41 weeks ago
Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle |
"Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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Stupid rule which will be enforced by retarded councils. I can see this leading to roads being impassable by emergency service vehicles because people parked "correctly" and slightly wider vehicles were unable to get through. |
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I think the law is dumb in respect it'll cause problems unnecessarily in some places. Personally I think the law should allow kerb parking as long as you leave say a meter worth of foot path to allow the use of all path users. Because not all curbsides are equal, some are very wide yet the road still narrow.
Path users need to be priority. However I see this having a causing problem in some areas. Especially old terraced house streets were houses don't have space to park on the property yet the road is too narrow to allow cars parked on both side and allow wider through traffic such as fire engines to pass if cars weren't parked on the curb. You would you have to put red doubles on one side of the street I guess. Not only would you lose half the parking causing a vicious parking war, you'd also make it more difficult for these residents to even consider EVs.
I think it will see and increase hit and run incidents on street parked cars as cars have to navigate tighter streets. I think this will have an affect on car insurance prices. Especially if you live on such a street. And also have negative effect on some house prices in areas where street parking becomes more difficult or even impossible.
Path users need priority. However a dumb blanket rule like this without considering to alternate infrastructure or allowance where curb parking would be practical if there is space is a disastrous policy. |
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"Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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Stupid rule which will be enforced by retarded councils. I can see this leading to roads being impassable by emergency service vehicles because people parked "correctly" and slightly wider vehicles were unable to get through. "
If you are obstructing vehicles from using the highway you are not parked “correctly”. |
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By (user no longer on site) 41 weeks ago
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The wider problem here is cars are bigger now than ever and the majority of people are more than happy with a ‘big’ car, most of the roads aren’t designed for said big cars, then the local authorities come across as either powerless or money grabbing, they will say if you cannot park your car in the road without impeding traffic then don’t park there but what if you are disabled or frail and need your vehicle clos by? You cannot fix this problem in this country, our society won’t let you yet ….
In Japan you aren’t allowed to park on the road at all, smaller cars are the norm and most people especially in the cities don’t need a car as everything is close by, within your prefecture you have all the shops schools train stations etc
This is a ‘You’ problem not a ‘they’ problem, therefore it won’t be fixed |
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"Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London or Scotland. Exceptions are allowed in limited circumstances. You should not park partially or wholly on the pavement elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Has anyone ever seen a sign that says its Ok to park on the pavement"
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"The wider problem here is cars are bigger now than ever and the majority of people are more than happy with a ‘big’ car, most of the roads aren’t designed for said big cars, then the local authorities come across as either powerless or money grabbing, they will say if you cannot park your car in the road without impeding traffic then don’t park there but what if you are disabled or frail and need your vehicle clos by? You cannot fix this problem in this country, our society won’t let you yet ….
In Japan you aren’t allowed to park on the road at all, smaller cars are the norm and most people especially in the cities don’t need a car as everything is close by, within your prefecture you have all the shops schools train stations etc
This is a ‘You’ problem not a ‘they’ problem, therefore it won’t be fixed"
Bigger cars are party caused by safety standards / Ncap etc., and party the manufacturers fault. Bigger cars are more profitable.
It’s so much fun driving a car under 500kg and little over 1.5m wide, I highly recommend it. |
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By *batMan 41 weeks ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
The trouble is that there are some older housing estates that were never designed for car ownership, let alone multi cars in one family.
During the day, a lot of those cars are in use, congesting the motorways, main roads, factory car parks, etc.
But at night, most people go home and there's simply not enough room to park anywhere legally.
It's all well and good saying they will have to find somewhere, but in many places there simply is nowhere. The car must exist in time and space, so it's got to go somewhere?
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Massive increases to large vehicle taxation would start to discourage their purchase. These are having an impact on road safety, health, pollution and availability of road space for all.
People who park on the pavement know it's not legal and have possibly chosen to live in the wrong place, with the wrong vehicles. They have some authority and power, to be able to rectify this and to avoid penalties. |
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Just came accross this thread. Being a carer and trying to get a wheelchair passed cars on the path is a nightmare. We don't go out much now as we are on the road more than the path. People do think I'm alright Jack. Its illegal to drive along a pavement so no excuses. I had to go along a main A road for over half a mile as cars parked and no dropped kerbs due to more illegal parking. If you have to park on a path think to yourself can a double buggy get passed your car, if not don't leave it there. School children walk the paths and you risk their lives each time. Councils should make parking spaces where there is room. We have a new estate with massive parking bays behind the houses. Quite a few use the bays most block the paths. People are odle. |
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"Well that's gonna be fun if you live in a tiny village like mine, if everyone parked on the road you would literally have about 1ft between the car on the other side of the road."
Why should a child or wheelchair user be put at risk though. They need to use the path it is afterall for pedestrians. I drive and if its not safe I dont park simple. It does seem that people do not care if they endanger others. A lot drive the same. Not sure but I should think careless driving law could apply aswell as obstructing the Kings highway law. |
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By (user no longer on site) 9 weeks ago
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Tbf I agree with the new laws. I don’t know what’s happened lately but the last 5 years or so I keep seeing cars parked fully on the pavement.
Even in busy city centre areas, and in places where you’re forced to walk onto a busy road to get around it.
Just follow the rules. |
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"Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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never happen, in today's world with 2 or 3 cars to an house other vehicle would never get down a street |
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"Tbf I agree with the new laws. I don’t know what’s happened lately but the last 5 years or so I keep seeing cars parked fully on the pavement.
Even in busy city centre areas, and in places where you’re forced to walk onto a busy road to get around it.
Just follow the rules."
coppers don't bother with vehicles parked on double yellows these days |
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"Tbf I agree with the new laws. I don’t know what’s happened lately but the last 5 years or so I keep seeing cars parked fully on the pavement.
Even in busy city centre areas, and in places where you’re forced to walk onto a busy road to get around it.
Just follow the rules.coppers don't bother with vehicles parked on double yellows these days "
That is because the laws have changed and delgated parking to the local authority, effectively making it no longer a road traffic offence.
It's a bit like noise complaints are not a police issue, it's all down to the environmental heath which again is handled by the local authority. |
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The laws haven’t changed…… Yet. They will be later this year.
It’s an offence in London but not elsewhere in the country unless the Council have already banned parking on pavement which is advertised by signage or there is a yellow line on the road.
As someone who has disabled / wheelchair bound friends it is a major issue for visually impaired and those who cannot access the pavement for its desired purpose… PEDESTRIANS.
But there is clearly a balance to be found as certain areas clearly need some form of pavement parking to not hinder the vehicles on the highway and create further issues. |
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By *oys99Man 9 weeks ago
Grimsby |
Impossible to impose, I’m in Grimsby, not major built up city, nor a country village, just a fair size town like lots of towns in the country, and there’s lots of residential roads around here, that are simply too narrow for cars not to park partly on the path. The fact is like most of the rest of the world roads were simply not designed to accommodate the amount of traffic there is these days. |
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By *eandRaCouple 9 weeks ago
Pontypridd |
"Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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only a cash cow if you break it. Great news for wheelchairs and prams. Not having to go into the road. |
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It is one of the easieat fines to impose. To actually stop it haplening however is different.
Its a photo of the vehicle parked on the kerb, a fine in the post. Like most fines from local councils it will be neigh on impossible to overturn as the arguement, "but if i dont park on the path,fire engines /ambulances etc cant pass, i'll be blocking the road" will not be entertained and you'll still end up paying the fine. |
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I live in a Kent cotrolled area where patial parking on the pavement is accepted and works well.
I would love to see how push chairs and blind people get past the telephone poles, trees etc. which occupy the same pavement intrusion as a partly parked car!
Further down the road it is a London borough. Some years back they ripped out all the
grassed parts of the wide pavements there and tarmacked them over. Aha,we thought. This is so cars will be able to pass more easily in the road. No such luck. They simply didn't
want to maintain the grassy bits! They started issuing fines and there is still a constant interruption to the traffic flow from cars having to pull in and wait.
Street planners need to get real about modern life.
Paint pushchair/disability scooter borders where needed and then start nicking drivers for parking beyond them. |
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I think it is a good rule. Pavements are for people.
There is a chap (always smiling!) in an electric wheelchair who I regularly see as I walk around town. I often see him having to go out into the road to get round vehicles that have blocked the pavement. That’s just not right. |
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Why is it OK for cars to park.on the pavement when they have the road to fill and cause congestion. They have no right to the pavement that is for pedestrians etc and any vulnerable road user to give them a safe space to move around.
Try using your car less and then the issue goes away.
Oh and by the way I have 2 cars personally. And I love to drive. But parking is in the correct places. Not footpaths.
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By *wcdfor2TV/TS 9 weeks ago
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They could start with fining the idiot who parks their car in the Emergency services through fair on our housing estate.
Parks in front of the locked bollards that the Emergency services have a key for. |
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A car partially parked on the pavement, but still leaving enough room for all the pavement users to pass uninterrupted is fine in my opinion. The morons who completely block the pavement forcing pedestrians into the road are the reason that these bans are being implemented. |
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1 house 4 cars 1 on drive 3 on road/path. Another van on drive 3 cars on road/path and dropped kerb blocked by car and upto the van so no way other than walk on road. This is within 100mtrs of each other. We had 4 cars for kids and parent, we made garden into parking. If they need more than 1 car per house and no off street parking then public transport. People by big cars and dump them anywhere to park, its just thoughtless and I'm glad I have more respect for pedestrians and wheelchair users. I walked passed a parked car 1 day my coat caught the door mirror as was so far on path. Driver jumped out screaming at me and my neice who is 6 coming from school. F ing and blinding wanting to fight me. Kids from school were crying but he thought he was right. The 4 police officers who arrested him thought different and best of it is walking from his street to school is half a mile at most. He told me his address to go round and he could beat me up. His wife was cringing and his kids crying. I guess roadrage is also in parked cars on paths but he got the finr and court case for the abuse. Walking to schools is better.
The country gone mad since lockdowns. |
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"1 house 4 cars 1 on drive 3 on road/path. Another van on drive 3 cars on road/path and dropped kerb blocked by car and upto the van so no way other than walk on road. This is within 100mtrs of each other. We had 4 cars for kids and parent, we made garden into parking. If they need more than 1 car per house and no off street parking then public transport. People by big cars and dump them anywhere to park, its just thoughtless and I'm glad I have more respect for pedestrians and wheelchair users. I walked passed a parked car 1 day my coat caught the door mirror as was so far on path. Driver jumped out screaming at me and my neice who is 6 coming from school. F ing and blinding wanting to fight me. Kids from school were crying but he thought he was right. The 4 police officers who arrested him thought different and best of it is walking from his street to school is half a mile at most. He told me his address to go round and he could beat me up. His wife was cringing and his kids crying. I guess roadrage is also in parked cars on paths but he got the finr and court case for the abuse. Walking to schools is better.
The country gone mad since lockdowns."
You didn't get stabbed, then? |
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"1 house 4 cars 1 on drive 3 on road/path. Another van on drive 3 cars on road/path and dropped kerb blocked by car and upto the van so no way other than walk on road. This is within 100mtrs of each other. We had 4 cars for kids and parent, we made garden into parking. If they need more than 1 car per house and no off street parking then public transport. People by big cars and dump them anywhere to park, its just thoughtless and I'm glad I have more respect for pedestrians and wheelchair users. I walked passed a parked car 1 day my coat caught the door mirror as was so far on path. Driver jumped out screaming at me and my neice who is 6 coming from school. F ing and blinding wanting to fight me. Kids from school were crying but he thought he was right. The 4 police officers who arrested him thought different and best of it is walking from his street to school is half a mile at most. He told me his address to go round and he could beat me up. His wife was cringing and his kids crying. I guess roadrage is also in parked cars on paths but he got the finr and court case for the abuse. Walking to schools is better.
The country gone mad since lockdowns.
You didn't get stabbed, then?"
No thank god but it shows a simple walk to school can lead to an idiot doing this and thinking its ok. I've wondered ever since was he on drugs and wish cops had tested him. |
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By *jhd94Man 8 weeks ago
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It’s nothing new. It’s always been a thing, hence why in the driving test you can’t park on the pavement.
I’ve seen traffic wardens ticket cars on the pavement before - there was a whole street of them and it was like the warden was having a bloody field day 🙄 |
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By *bostCouple 8 weeks ago
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It’s been a law in Scotland for a while but is locally enforced by councils.
Some don’t bother.
Wish drivers wouldn’t though, wheelchair users being forced off the pavement by parked cars and onto the road, as well as prams etc, is just a tragedy waiting to happen. |
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"The law as I understand it is, outside of London you can park on the kerb providing you leave enough space for a wheelbarrow to pass."
I hope you mean wheelchair as getting a 20st man in and out of wheelbarrow would be a bugger to do  |
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It would appear that many on here consider pavements suitable for cars.
Lets go all the way and park cars on roundabouts,yellow cross hatched areas and parks and gardens!!!.
Get to grips, its ALWAYS been an offence.
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"It would appear that many on here consider pavements suitable for cars.
Lets go all the way and park cars on roundabouts,yellow cross hatched areas and parks and gardens!!!.
Get to grips, its ALWAYS been an offence.
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It’s only ever been an offence in London or Scotland. Bristol considered it. |
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The offence in law is that they drive along a path. Why they do not get fined for that and points I dont know, they would rake in £millions. Saw a child nearly hit by driver driving on path as car coming other way. I hope the selfish who do the parking and bad driving get to experience back 1 day. Part of test may be push a person in a wheelchair round the streets see how it feels to be left having to risk life going on main roads. |
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I had a bellow knee amputation last year and spent a few months in a wheelchair recovering before I was had my prosthetic. Parking even partially on pavements caused me so much drama as well as cars parked in front of dropped kerbs.
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"Always thought it was against the law to park on the path hope it does come in and has a heavy on the Spot fine it might deter the ignorant or arrogant drivers nowadays "
Law currently is only if blocks access for prams and wheelchairs |
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To clarify, inside London it is a blanket offence you cannot park on the pavement.
Outside of London you can park on it, unless restrictions on the road such as yellow lines. Or if the council have banned it. But very few have.
Later on this year new laws / legislation is 100% being introduced to ban it everywhere in the country but it will be up to councils to determine how to deal with it.
I know this due to extensive research due to disabled and visually impaired friends who have constant issues with selfish people who park half on half off or even fully on the pavement.
Mark my words this will impact every area of the country by the end of this year at the latest. |
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