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Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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By *avie65Man 2 weeks ago
In the west. |
It is being introduced here as well. I don’t know who will enforce it as the traffic attendants only patrol one town in the council area.
I also think it will be a cash cow, for a while at least. Many households have 2 or more cars but, older properties may only have room for 1 car or the car is too wide to fit on the driveway so they have to park on the pavement/road. |
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If they ban parking on over the kirb, there's roads I can think of where the local buses (even the 'small' buses tend to be much wider than a car) will no longer be able to fit down ... life could become very 'interesting' very quickly? |
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There’s about 90 houses in our road which is a cul-de-sac. We live very close to the junction with the main road and where we park outside our house, the road is just about 2 cars wide. The pavement is only about 2 feet wide and there’s only a pathway on one side of the road, the other side is a very steep grass bank.
If we don’t put one wheel on the pavement the council bin lorry and recycling truck wouldn’t get past. Even the supermarket delivery vans would struggle.
Been asking the council for years to scrape some of the bank off but they refuse. |
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This is amazing. I live near a road where all the cars park mostly on pavement. It's a road towards the village centre and school. People have been forced to walk in the road and pushchairs and wheelchair can't get through the space and have to go on road. |
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"If you're in a wheelchair or pushing a pram this can't be implemented soon enough "
When my daughter was young I took great joy pushing her pram against cars that had taken up too much of the footpath. Probably caused hundreds of pounds of damage over a few years.
There are areas cars need to park on the footpath but they should be leaving room. |
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"I thought this was already an offence?
According to the highway code and my driving instructor when I was 17."
Exactly, it's always been an offence.
Most traffic wardens ignore it depending on the area.
But in area's where car's double park, park on on near a bend/ junction, starting on people parking on the kerb is going to be a difficult one to enforce.
But it's an easy money maker for councils and in most cases will probably involve no interaction with offenders.
As a photo is all that's required.
But yeah I always thought it was something that's been in place for years.
Given the amount of bad drivers that jump red lights every minute of the day I don't think many will care about parking on a kerb. |
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If you can’t park on the road without impeding other vehicles you should not be parking there, that in itself is an offence, utilising the pavement and causing an obstruction to those using it is not acceptable either. |
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By *usie pTV/TS 2 weeks ago
taunton |
Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London or Scotland. Exceptions are allowed in limited circumstances. You should not park partially or wholly on the pavement elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Has anyone ever seen a sign that says its Ok to park on the pavement |
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I live on a narrow and quiet road where we have to park partially on the pavement or you'd not get vehicles through.
Generally there is little through traffic so we can get away with it, but on busier roads it infuriates me to see cars blocking pavements. |
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People will have to adjust their behaviour and they will already know that they are breaking the law. There's no right to have road space for parking near to where you want to deposit your vehicle. People will have to consider their choices.
And especially, when buying huge oversized vehicles, which inhibits road and parking space as well as helps to lead to more deaths, including from pollution |
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I'm way out in the sticks, so we don't have kerbs- which is a handy excuse for the council to avoid sending anyone to pick up the copious amounts of shit dropped by passing cars, do any road maintenance or cut the verges more than once a year- usually about 2 months after it becomes impossible to see while pulling out of the side road on the NSL lane.
Good job i don't get charged an absolute fucking fortune for fuck all besides getting the bin emptied eh?  |
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"Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London or Scotland. Exceptions are allowed in limited circumstances. You should not park partially or wholly on the pavement elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Has anyone ever seen a sign that says its Ok to park on the pavement"
Seen a few signs. And I was thinking this is the rule. But now they want to make money out of it. |
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By *angzMan 2 weeks ago
Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle |
"Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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Stupid rule which will be enforced by retarded councils. I can see this leading to roads being impassable by emergency service vehicles because people parked "correctly" and slightly wider vehicles were unable to get through. |
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I think the law is dumb in respect it'll cause problems unnecessarily in some places. Personally I think the law should allow kerb parking as long as you leave say a meter worth of foot path to allow the use of all path users. Because not all curbsides are equal, some are very wide yet the road still narrow.
Path users need to be priority. However I see this having a causing problem in some areas. Especially old terraced house streets were houses don't have space to park on the property yet the road is too narrow to allow cars parked on both side and allow wider through traffic such as fire engines to pass if cars weren't parked on the curb. You would you have to put red doubles on one side of the street I guess. Not only would you lose half the parking causing a vicious parking war, you'd also make it more difficult for these residents to even consider EVs.
I think it will see and increase hit and run incidents on street parked cars as cars have to navigate tighter streets. I think this will have an affect on car insurance prices. Especially if you live on such a street. And also have negative effect on some house prices in areas where street parking becomes more difficult or even impossible.
Path users need priority. However a dumb blanket rule like this without considering to alternate infrastructure or allowance where curb parking would be practical if there is space is a disastrous policy. |
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"Read yesterday that it's going to be illegal soon to park any part of your car on the kerb.
Doesn't say how much the fine will be or who will issue it,though I'm expecting it to be the local council.
For a daft laugh,we've just done a 10 min trip to the local shops and say at a £100 a time, the local council would have made £1,700.
Another "Cash-Cow" me thinks.
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Stupid rule which will be enforced by retarded councils. I can see this leading to roads being impassable by emergency service vehicles because people parked "correctly" and slightly wider vehicles were unable to get through. "
If you are obstructing vehicles from using the highway you are not parked “correctly”. |
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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago
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The wider problem here is cars are bigger now than ever and the majority of people are more than happy with a ‘big’ car, most of the roads aren’t designed for said big cars, then the local authorities come across as either powerless or money grabbing, they will say if you cannot park your car in the road without impeding traffic then don’t park there but what if you are disabled or frail and need your vehicle clos by? You cannot fix this problem in this country, our society won’t let you yet ….
In Japan you aren’t allowed to park on the road at all, smaller cars are the norm and most people especially in the cities don’t need a car as everything is close by, within your prefecture you have all the shops schools train stations etc
This is a ‘You’ problem not a ‘they’ problem, therefore it won’t be fixed |
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"Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London or Scotland. Exceptions are allowed in limited circumstances. You should not park partially or wholly on the pavement elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Has anyone ever seen a sign that says its Ok to park on the pavement"
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By *latandTCouple 2 weeks ago
South Essex |
"The wider problem here is cars are bigger now than ever and the majority of people are more than happy with a ‘big’ car, most of the roads aren’t designed for said big cars, then the local authorities come across as either powerless or money grabbing, they will say if you cannot park your car in the road without impeding traffic then don’t park there but what if you are disabled or frail and need your vehicle clos by? You cannot fix this problem in this country, our society won’t let you yet ….
In Japan you aren’t allowed to park on the road at all, smaller cars are the norm and most people especially in the cities don’t need a car as everything is close by, within your prefecture you have all the shops schools train stations etc
This is a ‘You’ problem not a ‘they’ problem, therefore it won’t be fixed"
Bigger cars are party caused by safety standards / Ncap etc., and party the manufacturers fault. Bigger cars are more profitable.
It’s so much fun driving a car under 500kg and little over 1.5m wide, I highly recommend it. |
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By *batMan 2 weeks ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
The trouble is that there are some older housing estates that were never designed for car ownership, let alone multi cars in one family.
During the day, a lot of those cars are in use, congesting the motorways, main roads, factory car parks, etc.
But at night, most people go home and there's simply not enough room to park anywhere legally.
It's all well and good saying they will have to find somewhere, but in many places there simply is nowhere. The car must exist in time and space, so it's got to go somewhere?
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Massive increases to large vehicle taxation would start to discourage their purchase. These are having an impact on road safety, health, pollution and availability of road space for all.
People who park on the pavement know it's not legal and have possibly chosen to live in the wrong place, with the wrong vehicles. They have some authority and power, to be able to rectify this and to avoid penalties. |
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