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What are your thoughts on the new age verification for porn
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"It's a good thing, I don't see people's issues. Easy enough to prove you're over 18.
It's to protect children, which is the point most seem to be missing."
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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I think folk are just worried that their browsing history might be used against them.
If you use Amazon, EBay, Other online portals then your information is already out there and available to be hacked if someone really wanted to.
Crikey, I have an online account with Marks & Spencer and look what happened there 🤷🏻♀️ so yeah, I don’t buy folk being worried about their privacy.
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
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"My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
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I think if anyone is concerned by that they should avoid using them. It would mean they can't access porn via that route but I don't see another way round it.
Recent hacks of M and S and Co-Op and all the previous well publicised data leaks have made people wary and I understand that but here we are. |
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By *b03Man 46 weeks ago
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While there are some legitimate concerns about a 'chilling effect' in reality the 'click button to prove you are 18' method was hideously outdated.
i only use fab and the 18+ verification took all of 10 seconds. I wasn't inconvenienced at all. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"Porn no longer so easy to access in the UK
Happy or not happy? "
Pointless. Takes an adult seconds to get approved, takes a tech savvy kid seconds to by pass.
Another example of burden of responsibility being offloaded by parents who can't be bothered using effective and established systems to protect their kids online on to government mandated systems that are easily by passed and give a fallacious sense of protection to the lazy and stupid. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
I think if anyone is concerned by that they should avoid using them. It would mean they can't access porn via that route but I don't see another way round it.
Recent hacks of M and S and Co-Op and all the previous well publicised data leaks have made people wary and I understand that but here we are. "
The M&S and Co-Op hacks were small fry to what’s going on in the US right now with the Tea app, those women on the app have had their passports, driving licenses etc downloaded and the data is being horrifically abused publicly (do have a look, it’s horrifying).
The “just don’t use it” argument isn’t really acceptable either, there are significantly better ways to fix the challenge at hand, cyber-security professionals even said the implementation is poor, so why are they ignored?
To further my point, a savvy 13 year old can put Proton VPN on their device, steal their parents passport or driving license and done, checks bypassed. 👍🏻 it’s protected no one and the system has been defeated by a teen with some forward thinking. |
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"My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
I think if anyone is concerned by that they should avoid using them. It would mean they can't access porn via that route but I don't see another way round it.
Recent hacks of M and S and Co-Op and all the previous well publicised data leaks have made people wary and I understand that but here we are.
The M&S and Co-Op hacks were small fry to what’s going on in the US right now with the Tea app, those women on the app have had their passports, driving licenses etc downloaded and the data is being horrifically abused publicly (do have a look, it’s horrifying).
The “just don’t use it” argument isn’t really acceptable either, there are significantly better ways to fix the challenge at hand, cyber-security professionals even said the implementation is poor, so why are they ignored?
To further my point, a savvy 13 year old can put Proton VPN on their device, steal their parents passport or driving license and done, checks bypassed. 👍🏻 it’s protected no one and the system has been defeated by a teen with some forward thinking. "
What do you suggest we as individuals do to mitigate this? |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
I think if anyone is concerned by that they should avoid using them. It would mean they can't access porn via that route but I don't see another way round it.
Recent hacks of M and S and Co-Op and all the previous well publicised data leaks have made people wary and I understand that but here we are.
The M&S and Co-Op hacks were small fry to what’s going on in the US right now with the Tea app, those women on the app have had their passports, driving licenses etc downloaded and the data is being horrifically abused publicly (do have a look, it’s horrifying).
The “just don’t use it” argument isn’t really acceptable either, there are significantly better ways to fix the challenge at hand, cyber-security professionals even said the implementation is poor, so why are they ignored?
To further my point, a savvy 13 year old can put Proton VPN on their device, steal their parents passport or driving license and done, checks bypassed. 👍🏻 it’s protected no one and the system has been defeated by a teen with some forward thinking.
What do you suggest we as individuals do to mitigate this? "
It’s a two pronged thing in my opinion;
Firstly; ISP’s include content filtering on their routers they send out, and they do have filters that can be applied on top, there are also free tools available that can be put on devices to do the same job with minimal configuration and then locked down with a password.
Secondly; discussions and supervision, talk with kids, make them aware that out on the internet there are nasty people, that things might be seen that are unsavoury and make them feel as though they can talk to their parents without fear of repercussions.
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"My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
I think if anyone is concerned by that they should avoid using them. It would mean they can't access porn via that route but I don't see another way round it.
Recent hacks of M and S and Co-Op and all the previous well publicised data leaks have made people wary and I understand that but here we are.
The M&S and Co-Op hacks were small fry to what’s going on in the US right now with the Tea app, those women on the app have had their passports, driving licenses etc downloaded and the data is being horrifically abused publicly (do have a look, it’s horrifying).
The “just don’t use it” argument isn’t really acceptable either, there are significantly better ways to fix the challenge at hand, cyber-security professionals even said the implementation is poor, so why are they ignored?
To further my point, a savvy 13 year old can put Proton VPN on their device, steal their parents passport or driving license and done, checks bypassed. 👍🏻 it’s protected no one and the system has been defeated by a teen with some forward thinking.
What do you suggest we as individuals do to mitigate this?
It’s a two pronged thing in my opinion;
Firstly; ISP’s include content filtering on their routers they send out, and they do have filters that can be applied on top, there are also free tools available that can be put on devices to do the same job with minimal configuration and then locked down with a password.
Secondly; discussions and supervision, talk with kids, make them aware that out on the internet there are nasty people, that things might be seen that are unsavoury and make them feel as though they can talk to their parents without fear of repercussions.
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I'm *always* banging on about parental/carer/guardian responsibility. In the early 2000s when our kids first started using the net we checked what they were doing all the time. We headed off a few disasters that way. I do wonder why some parents feel they can't do the same. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"My concern with the OSA is not to do with protecting kids from harmful content, by all means restrict what they can view if it’s harmful, extremist etc etc.
But, as we saw with the Tea app in the US, what are the repercussions if one of the age verification companies gets it horrifically wrong and suddenly your personal details are leaked out?
I think if anyone is concerned by that they should avoid using them. It would mean they can't access porn via that route but I don't see another way round it.
Recent hacks of M and S and Co-Op and all the previous well publicised data leaks have made people wary and I understand that but here we are.
The M&S and Co-Op hacks were small fry to what’s going on in the US right now with the Tea app, those women on the app have had their passports, driving licenses etc downloaded and the data is being horrifically abused publicly (do have a look, it’s horrifying).
The “just don’t use it” argument isn’t really acceptable either, there are significantly better ways to fix the challenge at hand, cyber-security professionals even said the implementation is poor, so why are they ignored?
To further my point, a savvy 13 year old can put Proton VPN on their device, steal their parents passport or driving license and done, checks bypassed. 👍🏻 it’s protected no one and the system has been defeated by a teen with some forward thinking.
What do you suggest we as individuals do to mitigate this?
It’s a two pronged thing in my opinion;
Firstly; ISP’s include content filtering on their routers they send out, and they do have filters that can be applied on top, there are also free tools available that can be put on devices to do the same job with minimal configuration and then locked down with a password.
Secondly; discussions and supervision, talk with kids, make them aware that out on the internet there are nasty people, that things might be seen that are unsavoury and make them feel as though they can talk to their parents without fear of repercussions.
I'm *always* banging on about parental/carer/guardian responsibility. In the early 2000s when our kids first started using the net we checked what they were doing all the time. We headed off a few disasters that way. I do wonder why some parents feel they can't do the same. "
I don’t think it’s parents themselves squarely to blame, I think it’s a total lack of awareness of the availability of these tools and the complexity, it needs to be simple to set up, it needs to be successful to block, it also needs to be able to learn new words etc on the fly to catch attempts at circumventing.
ISP’s also need to enable these filters on their end, it cannot be left to just the parents to enable. |
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^^ no it isn't parents squarely to blame, it needs everyone to take responsibility. However I've too often seen devastated parents on tv when something awful has happened to their kid as a direct result of interaction on the net that they were completely unaware of.
As I said we headed off trouble on more than one occasion but we also missed stuff until it was nearly too late. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"^^ no it isn't parents squarely to blame, it needs everyone to take responsibility. However I've too often seen devastated parents on tv when something awful has happened to their kid as a direct result of interaction on the net that they were completely unaware of.
As I said we headed off trouble on more than one occasion but we also missed stuff until it was nearly too late. "
I agree, I do blame content providers for giving stage time to horrific individuals, algorithms that constantly promote sex, OnlyFans, violence etc on a constant treadmill of crap.
That’s where the work needs to start, in addition to these filters etc. |
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