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You should sign a prenup before getting married.
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By *hagTonight OP Man 1 week ago
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I am not married but the importance of it came up after I watched what happened at the coldplaygate with the ceo, the wife and the work college, many talked about it, did you also see it?
It was how important it is to sign a prenup before you marry someone, as it will secure your fortune and if someone doesnt want to sign it you should be suspicious of why they dont do it, like outlining how assets and debts will be divided in the event of a divorce, it also allows couples to clarify ownership of pre marital assets to name some of it.
Here is an interesting fact, did you know that those who have a prenup are over 30% more likely to remain married and so by singing a prenup you are automatically increasing your chances of staying married. I guess the reason is because there is nothing for the other one to run away with.
What is your view of it, did you know the importance of it. I didnt know about it, but if I ever got married I would sign it before.
If you are married have you signed it, did you sign it before marriage, or if not, why are you waiting, or what if one want to do it and the other dont want to do it, what will you do then?  |
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I think that signing a prenup is not the cause of studying married but a sign of the couples commitment to discussing how they see their relationship working. They will probably have talked about all aspects of their future together rather than just the finances and worked out how they plan to live their life, what their goals are etc. That in itself will show if they're compatible before they sign on the dotted line.
We don't have a prenup for two reasons. We aren't wealthy enough and we're a partnership. What we own belongs to both of us regardless of where the money came from in the first instance. |
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It all depends on the personalities involved.
If both come from well-off backgrounds prenups will be expected and accepted to protect the family wealth. Done by habit.
If one is a romantic and the other pragmatic then talk of a prenup can derail the relationship and kill the marriage before the vows even get written.
No matter the logic or legal sensibilities, the reason kills the romance and there's few die-hard romantics who would still feel the same knowing their 'one true love' is planning for failure with an exit strategy.
Also, it can light a fire in the other and make THEM start to think strategically rather than emotionally. It could bite the instigator in the ass big time. |
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"I think that signing a prenup is not the cause of studying married but a sign of the couples commitment to discussing how they see their relationship working. They will probably have talked about all aspects of their future together rather than just the finances and worked out how they plan to live their life, what their goals are etc. That in itself will show if they're compatible before they sign on the dotted line.
We don't have a prenup for two reasons. We aren't wealthy enough and we're a partnership. What we own belongs to both of us regardless of where the money came from in the first instance. "
I think also people will stay for the benefits not the person.
I'd rather (and did) pay huge money to get free of the wrong person.
You only get one life. |
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If a miracle happened and I was to get married at this stage of life I think it would be prudent for there to be some kind of legal document outlining finance arrangements should one of us die...especially for the sake of surviving adult children |
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"I think that signing a prenup is not the cause of studying married but a sign of the couples commitment to discussing how they see their relationship working. They will probably have talked about all aspects of their future together rather than just the finances and worked out how they plan to live their life, what their goals are etc. That in itself will show if they're compatible before they sign on the dotted line.
We don't have a prenup for two reasons. We aren't wealthy enough and we're a partnership. What we own belongs to both of us regardless of where the money came from in the first instance.
I think also people will stay for the benefits not the person.
I'd rather (and did) pay huge money to get free of the wrong person.
You only get one life."
True.
It's also wise to have a will if you have children from previous relationships. |
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"If a miracle happened and I was to get married at this stage of life I think it would be prudent for there to be some kind of legal document outlining finance arrangements should one of us die...especially for the sake of surviving adult children "
That's usually a will. |
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Planning on having kids? The woman is going to lose financial prospects for the rest of her life with that. There should be a prenup to make sure she doesn't feel trapped after the birth when her earning capability is drastically reduced.
Wildly different financial status prior to marriage? Massive debts or big inheritance accounts on one side? Protect those with a prenup.
In a country where divorce and inheritance rights heavily favour one party over the other? Get something down. (I'm looking at you Scotland.)
For general financial blending on a relatively even playing field in a country where the standard laws aren't wildly unbalanced? I don't think they're all that necessary 💜 |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 1 week ago
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"I think that signing a prenup is not the cause of studying married but a sign of the couples commitment to discussing how they see their relationship working. They will probably have talked about all aspects of their future together rather than just the finances and worked out how they plan to live their life, what their goals are etc. That in itself will show if they're compatible before they sign on the dotted line.
We don't have a prenup for two reasons. We aren't wealthy enough and we're a partnership. What we own belongs to both of us regardless of where the money came from in the first instance. "
Hi nicecouple, yes, you are right there, that in itself will show if they are compatible before they sign, those 2 reasons of why you dont have a prenup is also good, yes, it depends a lot on ones wealth if it is worth doing too |
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"I have heard that prenup agreements are ignored in divorce proc. They have no legal weight at all. "
That's not true. They're not ignored and are definitely considered.
But a lot depends on the content and how equitable they are in the context of the divorce. |
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Easier to just never get married haha
Not that it makes a difference think if you been together so long it’s same as being married in the eyes of the law
Part of the reason I won’t get in a committed relationship unless the lass had assets of her own, I watched the ex piss half of what I worked to build on herself and her lazy ex crackhead boyfriend and would sooner be dead before I do that again |
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"You're assuming prenups are legally binding, Shag."
Facts. They don't override the actual law on and the judge can choose to ignore it.
It's a contract. But you can't put anything in a contract that override the law of the land that you are living in.
Same with NDA's they don't apply to illegal acts.
A prenuptial agreement, though, can be a guide for the divorce judge to determine what the parties' original intentions were.
Most of these CEO got married with no money because married men are still the leaders in most of our country. Sorry, single men... businesses still like to appear family-oriented, and that includes a wife and kids.
People with generational wealth...such as the royal family and landed gentry already alway have prenupts and most don't get certain inheritances until they marry. |
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"I thought the moral of the story was don’t go to Coldplay concerts.
I think that’s just a good thing to live by in general "
Are they really considered that bad? Lol!
They have won a lot of awards back in the day. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 1 week ago
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"It all depends on the personalities involved.
If both come from well-off backgrounds prenups will be expected and accepted to protect the family wealth. Done by habit.
If one is a romantic and the other pragmatic then talk of a prenup can derail the relationship and kill the marriage before the vows even get written.
No matter the logic or legal sensibilities, the reason kills the romance and there's few die-hard romantics who would still feel the same knowing their 'one true love' is planning for failure with an exit strategy.
Also, it can light a fire in the other and make THEM start to think strategically rather than emotionally. It could bite the instigator in the ass big time."
Hi lovelyday, yes, you are right there, it also depends on the personalities involved, yes, if both come from well off backgrounds prenups will be expected and accepted too |
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By *oelMan 1 week ago
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A UK friend of mine decided never to get married, that's the safest way to provide yourself a little bit more protection in the UK. They have a kid, but he told his partner they will never marry, at least until after the kids leave school. |
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"I am not married but the importance of it came up after I watched what happened at the coldplaygate with the ceo, the wife and the work college, many talked about it, did you also see it?
It was how important it is to sign a prenup before you marry someone, as it will secure your fortune and if someone doesnt want to sign it you should be suspicious of why they dont do it, like outlining how assets and debts will be divided in the event of a divorce, it also allows couples to clarify ownership of pre marital assets to name some of it.
Here is an interesting fact, did you know that those who have a prenup are over 30% more likely to remain married and so by singing a prenup you are automatically increasing your chances of staying married. I guess the reason is because there is nothing for the other one to run away with.
What is your view of it, did you know the importance of it. I didnt know about it, but if I ever got married I would sign it before.
If you are married have you signed it, did you sign it before marriage, or if not, why are you waiting, or what if one want to do it and the other dont want to do it, what will you do then? "
Prenups are not very romantic are they?
If a girl asked me to sign one I’d refuse. |
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Didn't have one, neither of us had much and I found out about his inheritance after we were married so I was never after his money. Walked away with some furniture and my pride. I could have gone after half of everything he had but what was the point? It was never mine and I wasn't interested.
A prenup wouldn't have stopped us getting divorced either. |
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My underwear is that, in the UK at least pre-nuptial agreements aren’t legally binding. This is because the pre-nuptial contract is superseded by the marital contract.
The “rules” regarding a split of assets and wealth in divorce are essentially an opening argument to negotiation. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 1 week ago
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"I just don't plan on ever getting married, having kids, and maintaining my financial independence, solves the problem  "
Hi _estructiondolly, yes, that is good you want to maintain your financial independence too |
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"You're assuming prenups are legally binding, Shag."
Most divorce courts don’t care less that’s what was said in a prenup, they apply the laws on the separation of assets. Just because a solicitor charges you lots of money for something it doesn’t mean it’s legally binding. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 1 week ago
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"Easier to just never get married haha
Not that it makes a difference think if you been together so long it’s same as being married in the eyes of the law
Part of the reason I won’t get in a committed relationship unless the lass had assets of her own, I watched the ex piss half of what I worked to build on herself and her lazy ex crackhead boyfriend and would sooner be dead before I do that again "
Yes, it is easier never to get married, yes, that is a good reason too |
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I divorced 3 decades ago, at that time law favored clearly women, it still does but not so strongly,when I remarried I already owned my own home, I made it very clear that I wouldn't marry without legally binding documents which ensured that should our marriage fail she cant walk off with a chunk of money taken from MY house. |
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People saying prenups aren’t legal in the Uk are wrong. There is case law in place to the contrary .
They are not automatically binding as there are several aspects that have to be followed to allow them to be legal, you can’t just draw one up and think it’s legal, it’s a bit of a process.
It really comes down to personal preference.
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"People saying prenups aren’t legal in the Uk are wrong. There is case law in place to the contrary.
They are not automatically binding as there are several aspects that have to be followed to allow them to be legal, you can’t just draw one up and think it’s legal, it’s a bit of a process.
It really comes down to personal preference.
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They are not legally binding, that doesn’t mean they aren’t legal, it means a Judge in a divorce court can disregard them if he sees cause too. |
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"People saying prenups aren’t legal in the Uk are wrong. There is case law in place to the contrary.
They are not automatically binding as there are several aspects that have to be followed to allow them to be legal, you can’t just draw one up and think it’s legal, it’s a bit of a process.
It really comes down to personal preference.
They are not legally binding, that doesn’t mean they aren’t legal, it means a Judge in a divorce court can disregard them if he sees cause too. "
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"Prenups are not legally binding in the uk.
Came to say this. They’re only given consideration in court if the upholding of them would not be considered unfair to either party"
That was my interpretation of the legality of prenuptial agreements, they are hardly worth the paper they are written on. Although I'm a dinosaur from the era when hardware was something that you got at the iron mongers, and the only software around was located between old men's legs before viagara was invented, when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit trouble to look her best for the occasion and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab because, our financial circumstances were different, and so don't mind looking after someone important to me, the cost of a financial carve up is why I've always maintained that I can't afford lurve, but lust is a different commodity all together, and comes well within budget. |
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"People saying prenups aren’t legal in the Uk are wrong. There is case law in place to the contrary.
They are not automatically binding as there are several aspects that have to be followed to allow them to be legal, you can’t just draw one up and think it’s legal, it’s a bit of a process.
It really comes down to personal preference.
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They are legal contracts, same as any other contract which does not necessarily mean a court or choose to follow it. When two people are getting divorced if one person wants more, they can ask for it and if they can’t decide it will go to a court and they will look at the prenup and they will look at other things and they will make a decision on what they think is right. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 5 days ago
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"I divorced 3 decades ago, at that time law favored clearly women, it still does but not so strongly,when I remarried I already owned my own home, I made it very clear that I wouldn't marry without legally binding documents which ensured that should our marriage fail she cant walk off with a chunk of money taken from MY house."
That is good you made it very clear, that you wouldnt marry without legally binding documents too |
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