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over a year ago
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Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've just been shown this by some kids.
Has anyone else seen it?
Apparently using your private parts as piranha bait is a dumb way to die  "
yes i have seen the show.
piranha bait? the mind pust goes WTF |
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"Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec"
“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what.” - Stephen Fry |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec"
The thread title was actually the title of a cartoon which I watched on YouTube, which I thought I had explained in the OP. It is an information cartoon done by a British train company to try and educate kids to not step out in front of trains.
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"Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec
The thread title was actually the title of a cartoon which I watched on YouTube, which I thought I had explained in the OP. It is an information cartoon done by a British train company to try and educate kids to not step out in front of trains.
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It was obvious to me! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec"
I think you'll find that your definition is probably more offensive. People with Aphasia hate being referred to as 'dumb'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec
“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what.” - Stephen Fry"
Haha love it there's some many people going round saying im offended by this and that soon or later no 1 will be able to say anything |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hello all,
I see that I seem to be alone in thinking that it is offensive for a dumb person (or if you like, the correct medical term) to be called stupid?
Mr Fry is a clever man but sometimes he makes remarks that don't bear scrutiny. His recent programme on homosexuality was excellent but don't you think that he was offended by the options and reactions of the people he met?
Alec
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Hello all,
I see that I seem to be alone in thinking that it is offensive for a dumb person (or if you like, the correct medical term) to be called stupid?
Mr Fry is a clever man but sometimes he makes remarks that don't bear scrutiny. His recent programme on homosexuality was excellent but don't you think that he was offended by the options and reactions of the people he met?
Alec
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If you could kindly show me where I called someone with aphasia dumb or stupid I would really appreciate it.
This thread was in reference to a youtube video I had watched with some kids. Which if you had read my opening post you probably would have gathered. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
I see that I seem to be alone in thinking that it is offensive for a dumb person (or if you like, the correct medical term) to be called stupid?
Mr Fry is a clever man but sometimes he makes remarks that don't bear scrutiny. His recent programme on homosexuality was excellent but don't you think that he was offended by the options and reactions of the people he met?
Alec
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Mate, you're taking this waaaaay too seriously.
People who can't speak aren't dumb, they have a medical condition (aphasia for instance). Stupid people who do stupid things are dumb. You know, like using your wedding tackle as fish food or crashing your mobility scooter down a lift shaft. So lighten up, you'll live longer... |
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"Hello all,
I see that I seem to be alone in thinking that it is offensive for a dumb person (or if you like, the correct medical term) to be called stupid?
Mr Fry is a clever man but sometimes he makes remarks that don't bear scrutiny. His recent programme on homosexuality was excellent but don't you think that he was offended by the options and reactions of the people he met?
Alec
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I thought it wasn't pc to call someone dumb for a medical condition so perhaps you are on your own.
Years ago when I was doing my stage 1 bsl we were taught that calling someone who was deaf and couldn't talk deaf and dumb was incorrect and it should be deaf mute. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
I see that I seem to be alone in thinking that it is offensive for a dumb person (or if you like, the correct medical term) to be called stupid?
Mr Fry is a clever man but sometimes he makes remarks that don't bear scrutiny. His recent programme on homosexuality was excellent but don't you think that he was offended by the options and reactions of the people he met?
Alec
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Language evolves. The vast majority of people would use the word in this context these days. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
I see that I seem to be alone in thinking that it is offensive for a dumb person (or if you like, the correct medical term) to be called stupid?
Mr Fry is a clever man but sometimes he makes remarks that don't bear scrutiny. His recent programme on homosexuality was excellent but don't you think that he was offended by the options and reactions of the people he met?
Alec
I thought it wasn't pc to call someone dumb for a medical condition so perhaps you are on your own.
Years ago when I was doing my stage 1 bsl we were taught that calling someone who was deaf and couldn't talk deaf and dumb was incorrect and it should be deaf mute. "
You're not even supposed to call them that now!
I have to refer to any of my patients with similar conditions as aurally impaired and aphasic! |
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Calling someone dumb who is physiologically or psychologically mute is using an outdated term and could be considered offensive in the way that spastic and mongol are.
Dumb as in not very intelligent or lacking basic common sense is more prevalent in the US but is also used over here.
In this instance I believe the site the OP was referring to is called Dumb ways to die... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In a perfect world we would call them John orpPeter or Pauline or Joan or what ever their actuall names and not define them by their condition  (I know you meant in a professional sense though)"
My patient isn't called any of those names!....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
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"Hello Ruby,
please forgive a slight thread drift, but I really hate the word 'dumb', commonly used across the Atlantic, to mean stupid, but I think it is very offensive for those who may suffer with a speech impediment?
Alec
I think you'll find that your definition is probably more offensive. People with Aphasia hate being referred to as 'dumb'. "
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
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Why don't you just admit you are wrong? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
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WOW how to take things the wrong way and suck the fun out of a thread!!! |
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Lets keep the discussion on the forum.
I'll try and explain a bit better.
The word dumb is offensive to people with speech difficulties because it implies they are stupid because they can't speak.
Getting offended because the word is used to describe stupid people is just, er, dumb. |
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By *adyA01Woman
over a year ago
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I don't see how the OP was disrespecting anyone??? The OP was referring to a title on video she had watched on you tube! If you have a problem with the context the use of the word dumb was used in, complain to the people who posted the video! The rest of us understand the context it was used in! |
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
Why don't you just admit you are wrong?"
I would imagine it's for the same reason you won't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
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Apart from the fact dumb is no longer used in a medical capacity. And is as out of date, as others have mentioned, as terms like spastic, retard and mongol. |
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
Why don't you just admit you are wrong?
I would imagine it's for the same reason you won't."
To admit I was wrong I would have to be, er, wrong. |
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
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you keep mentioning "in America".
we don't live in America |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Me thinks there's a troll in the room...
Resorting to that type of comment when the guy is sensibly and calmly expressing his opinion implies a great deal about you."
Well thankfully I'm not particularly fussed about what anyone's opinion of me is.
I have calmly and effectively explained why I think the word 'dumb' is acceptable as a description of someone who does something stupid and also why referring to someone who has a speach impediment as 'dumb' is offensive and out dated.
Enjoy your Sunday... |
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
Why don't you just admit you are wrong?
I would imagine it's for the same reason you won't.
To admit I was wrong I would have to be, er, wrong."
My point exactly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Dumb ways to die, so many dumb ways to die. Dumb ways to diii so many dumb ways to die
I have had that song in my head for weeks. I think it's a good song to make kids think before they do something.
(Yes I'm ignoring the pc police) |
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"Hello all,
the point seems to have been missed in this discussion.
How would you feel if you were physically unable to speak but read and heard in every day conversation (I know this is predominately in America) that the common name of your disability is used to mean stupid.
Imagine, if instead of a word for a tiny minority of disabled people, that a word for particular race, religion or colour were used, would that phrase exist today?
It is not about political correctness, simply to engender respect for a small minority of disabled people.
Alec
WOW how to take things the wrong way and suck the fun out of a thread!!! "
I was thinking the same thing!  |
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