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"It's a tough one...as some feel it's out of love that they are giving them the food they want. I think there needs to be some education and support before ever considering removing the children but if the parents are not changing then I can understand the reasoning. I'm overweight but I would never allow my child to become obese.."  | |||
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"Ja ! I am in the street with my fat callipers now ..... Here kiddy kiddy kiddy ... Ooooooo I am pinching inchings ....." This truly made me spit out my coffee laughing  | |||
"Ja ! I am in the street with my fat callipers now ..... Here kiddy kiddy kiddy ... Ooooooo I am pinching inchings ..... This truly made me spit out my coffee laughing "It's such a tough one. My siblings and I were all very slim growing up, we had minimal naughty food and all treats were carefully monitored and never unlimited. ( ie friends who could take treats out of the fridge or cookie jar any time) Now older, we are all a bit porky and all naturally go for calorie rich food. We sometimes wonder if we allow ourselves a few too many treats now to compensate for when we were younger! | |||
"Ja ! I am in the street with my fat callipers now ..... Here kiddy kiddy kiddy ... Ooooooo I am pinching inchings ..... This truly made me spit out my coffee laughing
It's such a tough one. My siblings and I were all very slim growing up, we had minimal naughty food and all treats were carefully monitored and never unlimited. ( ie friends who could take treats out of the fridge or cookie jar any time) Now older, we are all a bit porky and all naturally go for calorie rich food. We sometimes wonder if we allow ourselves a few too many treats now to compensate for when we were younger! "Same here. Add in that most treats were homemade and that the ones most strictly controlled were the bought ones and it seams that I'm now hardwired to think that bought/readymade is more desirable!  | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse?" only after all other avenues have been explored and failed. | |||
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"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse?" Yes if after mountains of support and nutritional education is ignored then it is right,it is abuse,overfeeding is not love | |||
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"a lot of the problem is our snacks are too easy to give most kids live on crisps and fast food yes the parents should be helped but im not sure on the phycological effect on a child being taken away from their home" Would you worry about the effect of removing a starving child from their home? | |||
"a lot of the problem is our snacks are too easy to give most kids live on crisps and fast food yes the parents should be helped but im not sure on the phycological effect on a child being taken away from their home" Kids only live on fast food and crisps if that is what their parents feed them... | |||
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"Based on a wholly unscientific survey of kids around where I live, the fat kids seem to have fat parents. I doubt this is purely hereditary/ genetic, probably more the kids desire to be like Mum and Dad." The child stands no chance,it wil eat whats available,I don't think a child recognises at a young age the desire to get fat in a bid to be like its parents,its being nurtured by its parents lifestyle | |||
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" The authorities should either take the kids or have a term words with parents there is no excuse whatsoever for a kid to be massively overweight, " So they take the kids - enter them into the foster care system. Remove all contact from their biological parents. Create instability, cause heatbreak, resentment and a multitude of psychological damage to the child. As well as cost thousands of pounds for the taxpayer. Best idea I have heard  | |||
"There's no no excuse for a kid being obese people it is down to the parent, the kid will grow to up thinking it's ok and normal, parents should take more control of what their kids eat, one thing I'm praised on all the time is my daughter's diets, they snack on pepper cucumber tomatoes and fruit, treats for them are seafood sticks, prawns and the occasional Mac McDonalds, I cook all meals from scratch the only thing they don't eat is mushrooms, they eat every veg, and aren't fussy over food, it's up to the parent to not 'force' them to eat healthy but encourage them! That's the problem and the excuse ' I don't want to force my kid to eat something they dont want to' that and laziness in trying to encourage them more, it's easier to say have a bag of crisps rather than prepare a healthy snack, but then kids will eat a pepper like an apple or eat a whole half a cucumber. The authorities should either take the kids or have a term words with parents there is no excuse whatsoever for a kid to be massively overweight, " | |||
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" The authorities should either take the kids or have a term words with parents there is no excuse whatsoever for a kid to be massively overweight, So they take the kids - enter them into the foster care system. Remove all contact from their biological parents. Create instability, cause heatbreak, resentment and a multitude of psychological damage to the child. As well as cost thousands of pounds for the taxpayer. Best idea I have heard "Foster care isn't cheap. | |||
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"All seems a bit drastic and over the top. Do we then take kids from parents that smoke drink gamble or even those that swing? "actually if the drinking / gambling is affecting the life, health and well being of the child, yes they do get removed. | |||
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"All seems a bit drastic and over the top. Do we then take kids from parents that smoke drink gamble or even those that swing?
actually if the drinking / gambling is affecting the life, health and well being of the child, yes they do get removed. "I'd expect this would only because the child is at direct risk of physical abuse. A child being obese is different as it is manageable/reversible given the right direction or education. | |||
"All seems a bit drastic and over the top. Do we then take kids from parents that smoke drink gamble or even those that swing?
actually if the drinking / gambling is affecting the life, health and well being of the child, yes they do get removed. "Ok then what about parents that argue a lot, or the husband that lives his life at the fishing lakes or at football or even spends too much time at work? Can you see where I'm coming from? Mental abuse can be far more damaging to a child than physical feeling them to much food. Where do you draw the line? Remember we are who we are as adults some times because of our parents and sometimes in spite of them. | |||
"Ja ! I am in the street with my fat callipers now ..... Here kiddy kiddy kiddy ... Ooooooo I am pinching inchings ....." Haben Sie ein net like der child catcher in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? | |||
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"Surely its obvious to some parents that their children are morbidly obese? Mandatory Education avenues should be pursued before children are removed. "Obesity, once it reaches a certain degree, can be classed as a disability. Some parents don't see why they or their children should deny themselves anything. Or have to work for anything. | |||
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"There's no no excuse for a kid being obese people it is down to the parent, the kid will grow to up thinking it's ok and normal, parents should take more control of what their kids eat, one thing I'm praised on all the time is my daughter's diets, they snack on pepper cucumber tomatoes and fruit, treats for them are seafood sticks, prawns and the occasional Mac McDonalds, I cook all meals from scratch the only thing they don't eat is mushrooms, they eat every veg, and aren't fussy over food, it's up to the parent to not 'force' them to eat healthy but encourage them! That's the problem and the excuse ' I don't want to force my kid to eat something they dont want to' that and laziness in trying to encourage them more, it's easier to say have a bag of crisps rather than prepare a healthy snack, but then kids will eat a pepper like an apple or eat a whole half a cucumber. The authorities should either take the kids or have a term words with parents there is no excuse whatsoever for a kid to be massively overweight, " | |||
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"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse?" As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. " Kids are fat because parents have failed them. Totally different to adult obesity. | |||
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"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. Kids are fat because parents have failed them. Totally different to adult obesity." Yes you are right, and your point is? | |||
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"Surely its obvious to some parents that their children are morbidly obese? Mandatory Education avenues should be pursued before children are removed.
Obesity, once it reaches a certain degree, can be classed as a disability.
Some parents don't see why they or their children should deny themselves anything. Or have to work for anything. "The world has gone mad. | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse?" we live near two schools and cannot get in or out of our street for fat mam's dropping there fat kids off in the car most of them only live around the corner !  | |||
"Ja ! I am in the street with my fat callipers now ..... Here kiddy kiddy kiddy ... Ooooooo I am pinching inchings ..... Haben Sie ein net like der child catcher in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?" Ja"! Aber ich trage meinen net über meine Haare sind wie alle fett Großmutter tun würde | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. Kids are fat because parents have failed them. Totally different to adult obesity. Yes you are right, and your point is?" You said people have many reasons why they are fat, and for adults we agree, but children are only fat as a result of neglect and abuse, and the state should offer them protection. Education is key. | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? we live near two schools and cannot get in or out of our street for fat mam's dropping there fat kids off in the car most of them only live around the corner ! "Sometimes.... a post is just too evocative for sanity .....  | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. Kids are fat because parents have failed them. Totally different to adult obesity. Yes you are right, and your point is? You said people have many reasons why they are fat, and for adults we agree, but children are only fat as a result of neglect and abuse, and the state should offer them protection. Education is key." Right so kids cannot have thyroid problems or the load of other problems that help you put on weight. Also there are a number of medications that help you put on weight. Just eating less and exercising more is not always the answer. Many parents are well educated is this matter and try their best for their children, often with medical help but their children still put weight on. To say ALL fat kids are neglect and abuse just show who little you understand the subject. For the record by best friend at school had a long standing health problem meaning he had to take pills very day at school. He used to eat a salad for his lunch every day and do his best to work out at break times, Yes he was fat. | |||
"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. Kids are fat because parents have failed them. Totally different to adult obesity. Yes you are right, and your point is? You said people have many reasons why they are fat, and for adults we agree, but children are only fat as a result of neglect and abuse, and the state should offer them protection. Education is key. Right so kids cannot have thyroid problems or the load of other problems that help you put on weight. Also there are a number of medications that help you put on weight. Just eating less and exercising more is not always the answer. Many parents are well educated is this matter and try their best for their children, often with medical help but their children still put weight on. To say ALL fat kids are neglect and abuse just show who little you understand the subject. For the record by best friend at school had a long standing health problem meaning he had to take pills very day at school. He used to eat a salad for his lunch every day and do his best to work out at break times, Yes he was fat. " there will always be some medical issues (and I sympathise with your friend), so I should have said 99% of kids are fat because they are allowed to eat too much and are not encouraged to exercise enough. Poor diet, whether it be too much , too little or not enough of the right food is leading to huge issues with behaviour, learning and health problems. It is like watching a slow car crash, so the more that can be done the better, as the future implications for our nation are huge. | |||
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"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse?" Remove them and put them where? I can see there is a _iew from some that letting your child get obese is not seen as fully caring for a child as it isn't and I can see intervention and re-educating the parents but aren't there kids in worse environments that should be removed first? | |||
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"is it right that morbidly obese kids are being removed from their parents as its seen as abuse? As long as they are given the opportunity to do something about it first. And the only reason they are fat is they eat far too much, then yes. Many very fat people have other reasons why they are fat. Kids are fat because parents have failed them. Totally different to adult obesity. Yes you are right, and your point is? You said people have many reasons why they are fat, and for adults we agree, but children are only fat as a result of neglect and abuse, and the state should offer them protection. Education is key. Right so kids cannot have thyroid problems or the load of other problems that help you put on weight. Also there are a number of medications that help you put on weight. Just eating less and exercising more is not always the answer. Many parents are well educated is this matter and try their best for their children, often with medical help but their children still put weight on. To say ALL fat kids are neglect and abuse just show who little you understand the subject. For the record by best friend at school had a long standing health problem meaning he had to take pills very day at school. He used to eat a salad for his lunch every day and do his best to work out at break times, Yes he was fat. there will always be some medical issues (and I sympathise with your friend), so I should have said 99% of kids are fat because they are allowed to eat too much and are not encouraged to exercise enough. Poor diet, whether it be too much , too little or not enough of the right food is leading to huge issues with behaviour, learning and health problems. It is like watching a slow car crash, so the more that can be done the better, as the future implications for our nation are huge." It is as much an issue of malnutrition as being underfed is. Malnutrition simply means poor nutrition. If some parents KNOWINGLY feed their children badly they need intervention of some sort. | |||
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"Fat kids are useful as replacement sandbags for keeping the flood-water out." Is it wrong to laugh at this | |||
"Fat kids are useful as replacement sandbags for keeping the flood-water out.Is it wrong to laugh at this "nope | |||
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"I know someone who had all three of her children taken of her. The three year old weighed 8 stone, but they tried all different options. No way was I going to have a fat child " Same here. My three daughters are all a size 8. My eldest was a 12 at her heaviest, 6 her smallest when she married. | |||
"Unfortunately the people that believe they are educated on food and nutrition often have no idea what their food contains. People also lazily and naively think that their are restrictions put in place to protect us from the food manufacturers but food you wouldn't imagine could be bad for you is. It does make it harder for parents I suppose but there are many alternatives if you're aware. Sugar is just as bad as fats and all the other worrying stuff our food contains. Also in some supermarket chains don't assume that just because something has green labels one week that the ingredients and preservatives haven't been charged suddenly. The town I live in has one of the highest obesity communites in the uk the problem is because it upsets people to talk about it it has become the norm." Bring back compulsory home economics in schools and teach kids about food and how to cook. I know it's convenient and cheap, but ready meals are no substitute for cooking your own and controlling what goes into your body. | |||
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"Fat kids are useful as replacement sandbags for keeping the flood-water out." Fat is quite buoyant really, they'd just float away. Skinny people would make better sandbags… scuba divers need lead weights to sink most of the time. Removal of children in care should be a last resort. Not sure how you can force parents into education etc. This countries healthiest time as far as weight is concerned was during rationing. How far do we want to go down the nanny state road. | |||
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