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End of the three point turn in driving tests
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The three-point turn could be dropped from the UK driving test as part of biggest update to the exam in 20 years.
Under a revised practical exam, learners may also be asked to use a satellite navigation system instead of following road signs.
About 1,000 learners will take part in a trial of a new practical exam.
The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency said any eventual changes would be subject to full public consultation.
"We are carrying out initial research to explore how the driving test could better reflect real-life driving."
Have they gone mad? Don't people need to turn their cars round any more? As it is some drivers do a 9 point turn ! Plus, surely following road signs makes sense - I don't have a sat nav and would everyone taking their test? Makes no sense to me! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What does a driving test prove anyway other than you can drive safely for approx. 30 minutes then like a fffing idiot for the next 50 years.
How many people do we see these days that will not give way to cars on a roundabout, the shits have the audacity to pull out in front of you and put up an apologetic hand to say sorry which they are not, longer bans for those that flout the law should be used.
And now im in rant mode lol much is made of people who speed but what about the twats that always drive 10 to 20 MPH below the national speed limit, part of the current test is that you can drive to the standard sped limits Police should pull these idiots over as they cause more accidents than any speeding car, and relax  |
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I heard this and thought "how mad is that?" So, dispense with some essential basic manoeuvrability testing, and replace it with using a gadget whilst driving, at the expense of being able to follow road signs - which moron(s) thought that load of bollocks up ffs! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What does a driving test prove anyway other than you can drive safely for approx. 30 minutes then like a fffing idiot for the next 50 years.
How many people do we see these days that will not give way to cars on a roundabout, the shits have the audacity to pull out in front of you and put up an apologetic hand to say sorry which they are not, longer bans for those that flout the law should be used.
And now im in rant mode lol much is made of people who speed but what about the twats that always drive 10 to 20 MPH below the national speed limit, part of the current test is that you can drive to the standard sped limits Police should pull these idiots over as they cause more accidents than any speeding car, and relax "
Do you feel better now you've got that off your chest ? Made me laugh!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What does a driving test prove anyway other than you can drive safely for approx. 30 minutes then like a fffing idiot for the next 50 years.
How many people do we see these days that will not give way to cars on a roundabout, the shits have the audacity to pull out in front of you and put up an apologetic hand to say sorry which they are not, longer bans for those that flout the law should be used.
And now im in rant mode lol much is made of people who speed but what about the twats that always drive 10 to 20 MPH below the national speed limit, part of the current test is that you can drive to the standard sped limits Police should pull these idiots over as they cause more accidents than any speeding car, and relax
Do you feel better now you've got that off your chest ? Made me laugh! "
yes thanks I'm in bed ask me when I've returned home after driving GRRRRR  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm learning now, nearly test ready. Reversing round corner needs to go.. In real life nobody hugs the kerb.. . Pointless.
And the theory test is just a money spinner... |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Under a revised practical exam, learners may also be asked to use a satellite navigation system instead of following road signs."
What happens if the sat nav is out of date? Aren't some sings kind of important? Like 'no entry', 'diversion', and 'slow: accident'.
Seeing potential disaster in that one. |
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All the current manoeuvring skills need to stay. First and foremost, people need to be able to control the vehicle safely and effectively.
Just because it might need a bit of practise to get to an acceptable standard, doesn't mean it should be dropped IMHO |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think they should introduce regular tests even for those who have passed...If you look in your working life you train and train..If u have eye tests they are regular...would stop people driving poorly. I for myself admit that I hardly ever reverse park between two cars mainly because I haven't done it since my test 10 years ago...i just think people would have better skills at driving if regular tests were done say every few years...just my opinon |
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"Yeah - even that's been dumbed down. When I took my test, you had to do it in 3 - hence the old term"
When did you take your test? I did mine 28 years ago and the instruction was 'turn the vehicle to face the opposite direction using the forward and reverse gears'. No mention of doing it in 3 manoeuvres... 3 was just the ideal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I got turn in the road for my maneuver in my test.. The road was so wide I literally just locked the wheel all the way round and did a U turn! Instructor just laughed and said well done |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Shite! Turn in the road is the only manoeuvre I can actually do. Reversing round a corner should be dropped...no one does that. If I was a driver I'd just drive round the block instead. |
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"Yeah - even that's been dumbed down. When I took my test, you had to do it in 3 - hence the old term
When did you take your test? I did mine 28 years ago and the instruction was 'turn the vehicle to face the opposite direction using the forward and reverse gears'. No mention of doing it in 3 manoeuvres... 3 was just the ideal."
yeah I think you're probably right on that - it was over 30 years ago
As I recall, perceived wisdom at the time, was that the examiner would expect you to do it in 3 if, in the opinion of the examiner, the road was wide enough.
In those days, they didn't have any formal scoring system, minors, majors etc, they made just made a few notes, ticked a few boxes and you passed or failed based largely on their overall impression, though things like crashes, mounting the kerb etc, were automatic failure.
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"Shite! Turn in the road is the only manoeuvre I can actually do. Reversing round a corner should be dropped...no one does that. If I was a driver I'd just drive round the block instead. "
So you turn into a road and it's blocked by an accident or somesuch. The police direct you to reverse out back into the road you turned in from - what do you do? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Shite! Turn in the road is the only manoeuvre I can actually do. Reversing round a corner should be dropped...no one does that. If I was a driver I'd just drive round the block instead.
So you turn into a road and it's blocked by an accident or somesuch. The police direct you to reverse out back into the road you turned in from - what do you do?"
Ask the copper to do it for them haha |
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"Shite! Turn in the road is the only manoeuvre I can actually do. Reversing round a corner should be dropped...no one does that. If I was a driver I'd just drive round the block instead. "
but you actually use that method when reversing into your drive or reversing into a parking space between cars
id probably get annoyed with the tech driving itself and turn it off |
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when stationed in Cyprus my then mrs took her test lasted 30 mins 15 of which were in th office doing "road signs" (actually the examiner was on the phone ordering coffee) passed and got a certificate sent off to DVLA and got a full uk liscence YAY eurozone!! |
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By *xpresMan
over a year ago
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I have passed 4 different driving tests plus advanced drivers course. I am a drivers assessor for my company yet I know no matter how good I am there are over a million others who can't use mirrors don't know the basics in getting from AtoB I put my life in others hands every time I get behind the wheel Thats Scarey |
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"I have passed 4 different driving tests plus advanced drivers course. I am a drivers assessor for my company yet I know no matter how good I am there are over a million others who can't use mirrors don't know the basics in getting from AtoB I put my life in others hands every time I get behind the wheel Thats Scarey"
What do they teach these days about mirrors? I took my first test in Canada, and though I never took a professional lesson, their manuals stated that you should rear view, signal, shoulder check before manoeuvre.
I had a minor moment a couple of years back when merging at speed, and had become too reliant on rear view and door mirrors. Every vehicle has a blind spot(s). I'm now much more diligent in shoulder checking before each lane change. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Like mentioned above I also have passed 4 driving tests and am now cringing at some of the replies in here.
I live in a private road that some use for turning. My door opens out onto the street, I have had to replace my doorstep and several plant pots as in the past month I've counted 6 drivers mount the kerb and hit my doorstep
Which is situated 5ft away from the road.
I regularly turn a Transit van in a full lock without having to use reverse gear at all, if the road is wide enough to turn a long wheel based van how come some folks cannot turn a Renault Clio in the same space
Sat Nav so your driving along a country road and you take your eyes off the road to check where you are I the Sat Nav, you are not driving with the correct care and attention to the road ie reckless driving I say bin the fuckers nothing beats pre planning your route
Also mirrors. I was taught to check all mirrors every 8 seconds.
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It's a valid skill to have mastered so it's something I'd complain about in the consultation. As roads get busier, beuming able to manoeuvre away from blocks etc, without major inconvenience to oncoming traffic is needed. I've seen people all hot and bothered as ymthey can only point and shoot a car forwards.
And satnav is not for basic driving competency. Road signs may supersede satnavs, on diversions, blocks etc. Blindly following a sat nav requires mastery of driving skills first.
We won't get bad drivers stopped and ticketed etc whilst the ConDems have cut their numbers.
Frequent driving tests are needed, with increasing standard pass level requirements. And international visitors need testing too, if they live here. I'd be ok with that if moving abroad. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's called 'turn in the road' not 3 point as you can take as long as you feel necessary "
Add to the fact some cars can't do it in three points. Mine has the low speed turning circle of an oil tanker!..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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From what was reported on the radio it's not just use of a satnav that's being considered.
They are also thinking of including how to turn on heated rear windows!!
Is it just me, I'd have thought familiarise yourself with your car after you've sorted the basics of driving first!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"they should teach them all to use there indicators properly especialy those that aspire to but large german cars on passing
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They do but clearly to some, flicking an indicator on with one finger is way too much effort! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Shoulder checking
This is drummed into you constantly when driving a motor cycle yet car drivers ignore it completely
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I've always shoulder checked , Even more so, since a nasty accident when a Spanish lorry driver didn't do that, said I was in his blind spot and wrote my car off ! I'm really wary now when passing lorries on the motorway especially left hand drive ones. |
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