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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I seem to see constantly now online more and more stories of children being horribly abused. Now of course this is disgusting and it seems as though as soon as the press get wind that the abuser was a swinger or bi-sexual that they use it against them as though it is also disgusting. Now, I won't say what I think should happen to these people but using there sexuality or the fact that they're swingers against them gives everyone on this site a bad name also. I just want to know your thoughts. Is it wrong or do you think that the press should use it to make a horrible person look even worse? |
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"I think it is merely used to add spice to a horrible story. "
Hopefully this, and not:
"I think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people."
We're still new and finding it scary enough as it is!
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"I think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people.Really? What makes you think that? "
He is kinda right, it's just a game of numbers. Once you reach a certain threshhold, the chances are you'll encompass everything. I mean right now there are 17000+ members online, if the online tool is to believed.
That's a huge number and will almost certainly contain a % of dodgy people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers"
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent. |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people.Really? What makes you think that?
He is kinda right, it's just a game of numbers. Once you reach a certain threshhold, the chances are you'll encompass everything. I mean right now there are 17000+ members online, if the online tool is to believed.
That's a huge number and will almost certainly contain a % of dodgy people."
Which is why people shouldn't mention their kids on here then....abusers are from all walks of life, saying that there is a link between the swinging lifestyle and abusers is just plain sensationalism...we are marginalized in society as it is...... |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent."
But why do you 'think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people'? |
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"Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
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this..
they are the most cunning, devious and secretive of criminals..
this aspect will have some like any profession will have however to say this attracts them is not logical..
this aspect is for and about adults, where is the attraction in that for a paedophile.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent.
But why do you 'think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people'?"
It does amaze me how many people accommodate with their kids in bed, and openly admit to that on these forums, I'm sorry to say but that really could attract some undesirable visitors |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent.
But why do you 'think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people'?
It does amaze me how many people accommodate with their kids in bed, and openly admit to that on these forums, I'm sorry to say but that really could attract some undesirable visitors "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent.
But why do you 'think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people'?"
Fred and rosemary west comes to mind.
I was on another site before this one and a man was talking to me about child abuse, I don't know who he was just that he lived in America.
I have met some strange people on here, mostly they were ok though. |
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent.
But why do you 'think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people'?
Fred and rosemary west comes to mind.
I was on another site before this one and a man was talking to me about child abuse, I don't know who he was just that he lived in America.
I have met some strange people on here, mostly they were ok though."
Doreen are you now saying that this aspect also attracts mass murderers..?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
no I havnt either although someone did mention it on the forums a while ago, about a man who was on here who had been charged with child abuse, it was in the newspaper he came from kent.
But why do you 'think it stands to reason that this lifestyle will attract a few of those types of people'?
Fred and rosemary west comes to mind.
I was on another site before this one and a man was talking to me about child abuse, I don't know who he was just that he lived in America.
I have met some strange people on here, mostly they were ok though.
Doreen are you now saying that this aspect also attracts mass murderers..?
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No, fred and rose west were perverts who raped and abused women and their own children. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Statistically there's around 100 pedophiles online, here, right now"
There probably is
Child abuse has been going since the dawn of time, at one time there were no laws against it, people just had sex who they liked, making laws, unfortunately wont change people's sexual preferences they will just be more undercover about it, you will never stop child abuse and abusers will always be around us |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
this..
they are the most cunning, devious and secretive of criminals..
this aspect will have some like any profession will have however to say this attracts them is not logical..
this aspect is for and about adults, where is the attraction in that for a paedophile.."
Single mothers perhaps ?
Paedophiles groom the parents too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
this..
they are the most cunning, devious and secretive of criminals..
this aspect will have some like any profession will have however to say this attracts them is not logical..
this aspect is for and about adults, where is the attraction in that for a paedophile.."
Single women who invite men round to their homes while their kids are in bed?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I read of some 14 yr old girl who had made a toddler give her oral sex and videoed it and sent it to a friend who went to the police....what the hell is the world coming to I dont know  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I seem to see constantly now online more and more stories of children being horribly abused. Now of course this is disgusting and it seems as though as soon as the press get wind that the abuser was a swinger or bi-sexual that they use it against them as though it is also disgusting. Now, I won't say what I think should happen to these people but using there sexuality or the fact that they're swingers against them gives everyone on this site a bad name also. I just want to know your thoughts. Is it wrong or do you think that the press should use it to make a horrible person look even worse?"
Most of the press are low life scumbags anyway, without morals, and will use anything to spice up a story or attempt to add 'substance' to their 'story'. |
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"Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
this..
they are the most cunning, devious and secretive of criminals..
this aspect will have some like any profession will have however to say this attracts them is not logical..
this aspect is for and about adults, where is the attraction in that for a paedophile..
Single women who invite men round to their homes while their kids are in bed??"
actually you and crakatak make a fair point, i suppose like anything that its down to how those who are parents single or otherwise vet their prospective meets.. |
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We have been swinging many year,s and the worst part is were the lady is just there for the man it,s happened on a good few occasions over the year,s We have had girls start to cry not because my husband is ugly and force full far from it. Simply they have been emotionally black mailed into it we have never gone through with fun if all are not happy. Paul as never once tried to make me do any thing i dont want too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
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Agreed!
Please bare in mind that for every story you see in the news there is over 100 unreported cases! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hate to disagree but I would say there is probably a good chance that sexual "deviants" maybe more inclined to log into adult "swinging". Sites, so yes it's probably true that there's a higher percentage of them who are members.
That doesn't mean every swinger is a sexual deviant though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hate to disagree but I would say there is probably a good chance that sexual "deviants" maybe more inclined to log into adult "swinging". Sites, so yes it's probably true that there's a higher percentage of them who are members.
That doesn't mean every swinger is a sexual deviant though."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Statistically there's around 100 pedophiles online, here, right now
There probably is
Child abuse has been going since the dawn of time, at one time there were no laws against it, people just had sex who they liked, making laws, unfortunately wont change people's sexual preferences they will just be more undercover about it, you will never stop child abuse and abusers will always be around us "
exactly, I was just going by numbers. On numbers alone of course Facebook would be the worse |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hate to disagree but I would say there is probably a good chance that sexual "deviants" maybe more inclined to log into adult "swinging". Sites, so yes it's probably true that there's a higher percentage of them who are members.
That doesn't mean every swinger is a sexual deviant though."
Agree with this. On an almost daily basis I get messages asking for taboo play. Usually in far more extreme sexual detail. I find it hard to believe that those who indulge in that kind of play don't find it as a starting point for sexual abuse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hate to disagree but I would say there is probably a good chance that sexual "deviants" maybe more inclined to log into adult "swinging". Sites, so yes it's probably true that there's a higher percentage of them who are members.
That doesn't mean every swinger is a sexual deviant though.
Agree with this. On an almost daily basis I get messages asking for taboo play. Usually in far more extreme sexual detail. I find it hard to believe that those who indulge in that kind of play don't find it as a starting point for sexual abuse. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hate to disagree but I would say there is probably a good chance that sexual "deviants" maybe more inclined to log into adult "swinging". Sites, so yes it's probably true that there's a higher percentage of them who are members.
That doesn't mean every swinger is a sexual deviant though."
The numbers of this may well be hidden due to the obvious ramifications when the authorities questions are asked.
Where did you meet this man ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sexual deviants come from anywhere, just because swingers are sexually liberated does not make them bad people.
Mothers that allow men to move in or introduced the children after five minutes are asking for trouble.
Sorry but i think any male or female coming in front of peoples kids should be trusted by the parent first.
As for allowing someone to groom me brainwash me ect, would be straight out the door.and reported or worse...i would see the intentions.
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By (user no longer on site)
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The fact that someone is anything other than a child rapist and is being reported as something other than that, for the purpose of making others in that separate category look bad, is wrong.
Yes it will happen because some people are stupid, fact. Some people can be easily swayed to others agendas and be taken in by propaganda, and that is what they're trying to achieve, others being a part of their agenda and supporting them.
Loads of people think there's a purpose to life, a purpose to people, and they choose to force their _iews onto others, this is also wrong but the way our whole society is shaped now.
People are individuals, made up of loads of categories, and to lump people of one category into another is just stupid but so are some people stupid.
There used to be a lot of propaganda against promiscuity, we were headed towards being more liberal and sharing safety of that lifestyle instead. Scaring people into not being a part of that lifestyle instead of giving them the facts is wrong, but also keeps them stupid, which is what propagandists want so they can sway them to whatever _iews they want. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hate to disagree but I would say there is probably a good chance that sexual "deviants" maybe more inclined to log into adult "swinging". Sites, so yes it's probably true that there's a higher percentage of them who are members.
That doesn't mean every swinger is a sexual deviant though."
Nor does it mean every non-swinger is totally safe 
Bottom line is - children are vulnerable to anybody older/bigger/authority figures/anyone that has power over them.
It's up to the parent/responsible adult to never let their guard down and keep them safe. Trust no one basically, where kids are concerned.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Liberated? Sexual deviant? Amazing that we say liberated when most in vanilla land would class us as deviants.
The facts are quite simple from my _iew. Yes there are paedophiles on here of which I have no doubt but there are also many many cases where they are teachers, scout leaders and brownie leaders, statistically paedophiles target areas where close contact with children is the norm. Swinging does not really supply that. Any parent who feels it acceptable to bring strangers into their home for fun while their children are home needs their head testing in my opinion. Vigilance is the key to keeping children safe. I trust no one with my kids except their mum, my sisters and my mother. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Liberated? Sexual deviant? Amazing that we say liberated when most in vanilla land would class us as deviants.
The facts are quite simple from my _iew. Yes there are paedophiles on here of which I have no doubt but there are also many many cases where they are teachers, scout leaders and brownie leaders, statistically paedophiles target areas where close contact with children is the norm. Swinging does not really supply that. Any parent who feels it acceptable to bring strangers into their home for fun while their children are home needs their head testing in my opinion. Vigilance is the key to keeping children safe. I trust no one with my kids except their mum, my sisters and my mother. "
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
Me neither. Do you have an example?
Fred & Rise West"
Ah I suppose they could be _iewed as swingers. Personally I thought their habits leaned more towards sexual abuse. But hey ho. |
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
Me neither. Do you have an example?
Fred & Rise West
Ah I suppose they could be _iewed as swingers. Personally I thought their habits leaned more towards sexual abuse. But hey ho."
I think they had a few livers who they didn't murder.
Bit I'm not saying they were swingers I'm saying the press reported them as being swingers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
Me neither. Do you have an example?
Fred & Rise West
Ah I suppose they could be _iewed as swingers. Personally I thought their habits leaned more towards sexual abuse. But hey ho."
Yes, and they were swingers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Paedophiles come from all walks of life.
From teenagers to pensioners. Cleaners to clergymen.
It's perpetrated by parents, brothers and sisters, not just strangers
Being sexually liberated has sweet FA to do with paediphillia.
It's a perversion. Abusive. Assaultative.
It's a crime.
Since when was sex between consenting adults a crime?
So no. I don't see a connection at all
this..
they are the most cunning, devious and secretive of criminals..
this aspect will have some like any profession will have however to say this attracts them is not logical..
this aspect is for and about adults, where is the attraction in that for a paedophile.."
I think calling nonces criminals is an affront to honest hard working criminals. Criminals have feelings to ...pedos are segregated and protected in prison society they have there own wing. You seem to forget criminals have sons and daughters to ,,as for the comment they can see this website attracting pedos ime with the majority ...why ?? majority of swingers I met at parties were doctors barristers even police officers 1 of which I actually provided no resistance to and came quietly  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've never seen a story where the parents of a abused child were outed as swingers
Me neither. Do you have an example?
Fred & Rise West
Mick Philpott "
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Statistically you could probably make a link between swingers and any criminal activity. Swingers are ordinary people who come from a cross section of society but as has been said it adds shock factor. |
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"Statistically you could probably make a link between swingers and any criminal activity. Swingers are ordinary people who come from a cross section of society but as has been said it adds shock factor."
yes, equally one could say pretty much the same about any walk of life and any aspect of behaviour..
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