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Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo! |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo! "
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly. |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly. "
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear! |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!"
Actually Megan and I is correct... |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct..."
Not when I was taught English. I does not swap for me if another person is added to the sentence. |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct..."
Cobblers, you don't say 'it's done for we', you say 'it's done for us'. Therefore it's Megan and me (Us) not Megan and I (we). |
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Actually Megan and I is correct..."
I was just about to remark the same thing.
People who enunciate the following incorrectly and sadly it's most people including news readers, politicians.
'Our' as 'are' when it should sound like 'hour'.
'We're' as 'where' when it should sound like 'weir'.
'You're' as 'your' when it should sound like 'ure'.
There are plenty of other examples too. |
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over a year ago
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For the pronunciation fascists there is an interesting article on the web on the History of English website on the Great vowel shift. This may tidy up some preconceptions. |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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Wars have been fought in our office over Trolls - I say it rhymes with stroll, roll and droll......the popular Liverpool accent rhymes it with doll but apparently I am too 'posh' to be from Liverpool and that's why I can't say it 'proper'  |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo! "
No it's not. grrrrr |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct...
Cobblers, you don't say 'it's done for we', you say 'it's done for us'. Therefore it's Megan and me (Us) not Megan and I (we)."
Yep...Megan and I is incorrect. In this context at least.  |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct..."
No it's not. In context given it should be Megan and me not Megan and I. In the sentence "It's done for Megan" "it's" is the subject and "Megan" is the object. Therefore "Megan" would be replaced with the object pronoun "her". The object pronoun for yourself is "me" not "I".
However in, we really want to correct, in this sentence "done for" could be considered reflexive in which case correct pronoun is neither "I" or "me" but "myself". So it should be:-
"it's done for Megan and myself" |
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Scone being pronounced as "sconn".
Also when I lived in Derbyshire, I got sick of being "corrected" on the way I said glass, grass, bath, etc (I pronounce it with the Queen's English) by people who pronounced asked as "aksed".  |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!"
It's down to courtesy though, you're supposed to refer to yourself last in a sentence, my friends and I not me and my friends and to say my friends and me just sounds stupid. The only person who can refer to themselves first in a sentence is supposed to be the queen. |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me."
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch". |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch"."
My biggest bugbear is "youse"....it is not a word.
i do not understand why people cant say "yourselves"..... |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch"."
I don't doubt that at all - I'm just saying I don't like it! |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
It's down to courtesy though, you're supposed to refer to yourself last in a sentence, my friends and I not me and my friends and to say my friends and me just sounds stupid. The only person who can refer to themselves first in a sentence is supposed to be the queen. "
Bollocks. I'm a Republican. |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch"."
I'm pretty dam sure the queen doesn't say it with an 'H' |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch".
I'm pretty dam sure the queen doesn't say it with an 'H'"
Look in the Oxford dictionary...has not changed.. |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch".
I'm pretty dam sure the queen doesn't say it with an 'H'"
The same as she WOULD say "Megan and I"....jeez |
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"People putting an R in Bath, Glass and Grass. "
When our children first went to school we were careful to correct their pronunciation of these words.
We hit a snag though when we discovered their teacher called herself 'Sandra' - even I couldn't get away with calling her 'Sarndra'!
My problem is that I come from a poor family, but had a good education. So there are a large number of words floating around my mind that I have only ever seen written down. It's nice to have that helpful chap from Google speaking the words to me, but it does mean that whenever I quote Thomas Hardy or Dickens, I occasionally drop into a Texan drawl
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By *andom2chatMan
over a year ago
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" . . "would of" instead of "would have"" that's the current one that seems to be everywhere. Clearly confusing the contraction of would've, could've, should've - not would of, could of, should of.
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch".
I'm pretty dam sure the queen doesn't say it with an 'H'
The same as she WOULD say "Megan and I"....jeez"
Actually I'm pretty sure she would say 'Megan and oneself' if used in the original context. I don't think she would say "Megan and I" and definitely not 'Megan and one" in the context because "I" and "one" are the subject pronoun whereas "myself" "oneself" or "me" are object pronouns ("myself" or "oneself" being reflective or emphatic).
It is possible that she might choose to use the first person plural (a royal proactive as in 'we' instead of 'I') in which case it would me 'Megan and ourselves' or 'Megan and us" but never, in the context given 'Megan and we'. |
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The general rule of thumb is if the noun is before the verb then it's the subject and should be replaced with 'I/one, you, he/she/it, we, you, they'. If the noun is after the verb then it's an object and should be replaced with 'me, you, him/her/it, us, you, them'.
The object may be reflective (replacing the same noun as the subject as in "I kick myself") in which case the reflective object pronouns 'myself/oneself, yourself, himself/herself/itself, ourselves, yourselves, themselves' must be used.
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch".
I'm pretty dam sure the queen doesn't say it with an 'H'
The same as she WOULD say "Megan and I"....jeez
Actually I'm pretty sure she would say 'Megan and oneself' if used in the original context. I don't think she would say "Megan and I" and definitely not 'Megan and one" in the context because "I" and "one" are the subject pronoun whereas "myself" "oneself" or "me" are object pronouns ("myself" or "oneself" being reflective or emphatic).
It is possible that she might choose to use the first person plural (a royal proactive as in 'we' instead of 'I') in which case it would me 'Megan and ourselves' or 'Megan and us" but never, in the context given 'Megan and we'."
....my husband and I...Philip and I...
Being facetious is so not attractive...
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!"
I'm challenging that. Its always and I when referring to someone else and yourself. |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct..."
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me.
You wanna take it up with local schools and nurseries, as when we were taught the alphabet, H is pronounced "Haitch".
I'm pretty dam sure the queen doesn't say it with an 'H'
The same as she WOULD say "Megan and I"....jeez
Actually I'm pretty sure she would say 'Megan and oneself' if used in the original context. I don't think she would say "Megan and I" and definitely not 'Megan and one" in the context because "I" and "one" are the subject pronoun whereas "myself" "oneself" or "me" are object pronouns ("myself" or "oneself" being reflective or emphatic).
It is possible that she might choose to use the first person plural (a royal proactive as in 'we' instead of 'I') in which case it would me 'Megan and ourselves' or 'Megan and us" but never, in the context given 'Megan and we'.
....my husband and I...Philip and I...
Being facetious is so not attractive...
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Only when 'husband and I' are the subject (normally at the start of the sentence and before the verb). You'll never hear her say it when 'husband and oneself' are the object (at the end of the sentence and after the verb). |
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I'm challenging that. Its always and I when referring to someone else and yourself."
I see your challenge, and I raise you the accusative, dative, genative and ablative cases of "l" !
In the end the newsreaders got around this difficulty by saying "It's goodnight from him, and from me"
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
I'm challenging that. Its always and I when referring to someone else and yourself."
No it's not. You use "I" when it's the subject always (at the start of the sentence and before the verb) and 'me', 'myself' or 'oneself' if it's the object (at the end of the sentence and after the verb). That's the rule. |
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For me, the word pronunciation itself.
Many people pronounce it as if it is pronounce-iation, I'm in the odd few who pronounces it as pro-nun-ciation.
No idea if that is just me though.
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct..."
I agree. You wouldn't say 'I've done it for Megan and me' that is silly. It is a poorly constructed sentence in general. You would say 'I've done it, for Megan and myself.' ...  |
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I can't complain too much about pronunciation, I have a Geordie accent and therefore pronounce lots of things very differently to you southerners but a word that gets on my nerves is a local thing "littler" instead of "smaller"... Pronounced littla and smaalla... Just so you know.. X |
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"The way "H" is pronounced this days "Haitch"...
This one really pisses me of. There is no bloody 'h' at the start of the word 'aitch'.
This is the only one that really, really, really annoys me."
Haitch is taught in my daughter's school. Drives me bonkers.
It's a perfectly acceptable scrabble word aitch.
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I'm challenging that. Its always and I when referring to someone else and yourself.
I see your challenge, and I raise you the accusative, dative, genative and ablative cases of "l" !
In the end the newsreaders got around this difficulty by saying "It's goodnight from him, and from me"
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Actually it's:-
nominative, vocative, dative, accusative and genitive.
And that's the point. The pronoun has to agree with the noun it is replacing in gender, number and case. The nominative or subject ("I") is normally before the verb and the accusative or object ("me") is normally after the verb.
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
Actually Megan and I is correct...
I agree. You wouldn't say 'I've done it for Megan and me' that is silly. It is a poorly constructed sentence in general. You would say 'I've done it, for Megan and myself.' ... "
You use of the reflective object pronoun "myself" is correct but "I" would still be wrong. In this case the pronoun is referring (reflecting) back to the "I" in "I've". You don't need the ',' between 'it' and 'for' either. |
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"Great to have started a grammar debate, but the subject was pronunciation! Lol"
Rather than using the past tense 'was' I think the statement would be more effective if you used the present perfect
continuous tense 'should have been'. as in:-
Great to have started a grammar debate, but the subject should have been pronunciation! Lol
Or am I still off topic.  |
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"Great to have started a grammar debate, but the subject was pronunciation! Lol
Rather than using the past tense 'was' I think the statement would be more effective if you used the present perfect
continuous tense 'should have been'. as in:-
Great to have started a grammar debate, but the subject should have been pronunciation! Lol
Or am I still off topic. "
Yeah...still off topic! |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack! |
"Mirror as mirrow. This one annoys the crap out of me."
I`ve actually seen it written as mirrow! And that was a school teacher that did that!
For some, pronunciation is down to accent, none more noticeable as an old school friend who would "urrinj" for the colour! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well I'm from South Wales and round here we really enunciate our words. You hear every T roll our R's to within an inch of their lives, our H's are clear that's haitch not aitch, our S's are dragged out a bit too.
I think northerners struggle with pronunciation. Having a northerner say their vowels is fucking hysterical. |
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Actually it's:-
nominative, vocative, dative, accusative and genitive.
And that's the point. The pronoun has to agree with the noun it is replacing in gender, number and case. The nominative or subject ("I") is normally before the verb and the accusative or object ("me") is normally after the verb.
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Well, this one's going well!
Sorry Mr C, didn't you have the ablative case?
Obviously 'me' can never be nominative or vocative, which is why I omitted them. (Although now you have me wondering about the vocative case).The object in the sentence quoted is 'it'. What did you do? I did 'it'. For whom? For that lazy cow Megan who should have done it herself hours ago and saved us all this bally grief.
Oh, and for me, apparently. (Though what I'll ever get out of this whole sorry business I'll never know - please tell me there's at least one lady out there who wants to be put over my knee and spanked while we decline 'amo, amas, amat' together?) |
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Actually it's:-
nominative, vocative, dative, accusative and genitive.
And that's the point. The pronoun has to agree with the noun it is replacing in gender, number and case. The nominative or subject ("I") is normally before the verb and the accusative or object ("me") is normally after the verb.
Well, this one's going well!
Sorry Mr C, didn't you have the ablative case?
Obviously 'me' can never be nominative or vocative, which is why I omitted them. (Although now you have me wondering about the vocative case).The object in the sentence quoted is 'it'. What did you do? I did 'it'. For whom? For that lazy cow Megan who should have done it herself hours ago and saved us all this bally grief.
Oh, and for me, apparently. (Though what I'll ever get out of this whole sorry business I'll never know - please tell me there's at least one lady out there who wants to be put over my knee and spanked while we decline 'amo, amas, amat' together?)"
Amamus, amatis, amant?
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Personally I have no issue with different pronunciation because of accents.
Like others have said it's "should of" and "somethink" that really bug me. Our eldest also says git instead of get which sounds awful  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I absolutely detest "carn't"..or is that to make it sound less like cunt?
You just don't like it when people say you can't shag them. "
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"I absolutely detest "carn't"..or is that to make it sound less like cunt?
You just don't like it when people say you can't shag them.
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or is that bean a cant |
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Amamus, amatis, amant?
Omg, there is a God afterall!!!
(I've never heard Latin in a Geordie accent )
Anyway, back on track, did you pronounce it Via Appia, or Wia Appia, Anna?
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I'm from the Wia school of thought |
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I am not sure I can comment, as my accent can be very combine harvesterish at times. It depends who I am with, as to whether it gets worse or not. Grass becomes graaaaassss and bath - baaaatthh - we seem to elongate the "a" in everything.  |
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I do find my accent takes on aspects of those around me.
When I lived in the USA I developed a mid-Atlantic accent which I retain to some extent as my wife is American.
When I holiday in the West Country I do sound a little like I am from Zummerzet. And I'm not being rude to the locals, I just pick up the way they speak.
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Amamus, amatis, amant?
Omg, there is a God afterall!!!
(I've never heard Latin in a Geordie accent )
Anyway, back on track, did you pronounce it Via Appia, or Wia Appia, Anna?
I'm from the Wia school of thought "
Obvs.
How else would that joke about the notowious cwiminal, Woger, work? (Or was it Woderick, the wobber?)
{goes to ask Biggus Dickus...}
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"I am not sure I can comment, as my accent can be very combine harvesterish at times. It depends who I am with, as to whether it gets worse or not. Grass becomes graaaaassss and bath - baaaatthh - we seem to elongate the "a" in everything. "
Or the"u" - Zyduuuuur! |
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Actually it's:-
nominative, vocative, dative, accusative and genitive.
And that's the point. The pronoun has to agree with the noun it is replacing in gender, number and case. The nominative or subject ("I") is normally before the verb and the accusative or object ("me") is normally after the verb.
Well, this one's going well!
Sorry Mr C, didn't you have the ablative case?
Obviously 'me' can never be nominative or vocative, which is why I omitted them. (Although now you have me wondering about the vocative case).The object in the sentence quoted is 'it'. What did you do? I did 'it'. For whom? For that lazy cow Megan who should have done it herself hours ago and saved us all this bally grief.
Oh, and for me, apparently. (Though what I'll ever get out of this whole sorry business I'll never know - please tell me there's at least one lady out there who wants to be put over my knee and spanked while we decline 'amo, amas, amat' together?)"
There is no ablative case in English. When translated from Latin the ablative normally gets translated in the genitive or dative. The vocative does exist in English but in modern English it is normally done by punctuation as in "Did you hear, John?" (John being vocative) compared with "Did you hear John?". The Old English form of putting "O" in front of the noun, as it "Did you hear O John?" still works but is seldom used these days outside of poetry and music.
And here ends my lesson on the declination of English nouns.
But just one last thing; Amare is the verb to love and in Latin, as in English, you decline nouns but conjugate verbs.
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"I do find my accent takes on aspects of those around me.
When I lived in the USA I developed a mid-Atlantic accent which I retain to some extent as my wife is American.
When I holiday in the West Country I do sound a little like I am from Zummerzet. And I'm not being rude to the locals, I just pick up the way they speak.
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I do that too.
I don't really care for accents, but I still pick them up.
Again I should have been more specific! From my point of view I was referring to people with a similar/the same regional accent pronouncing things totally differently.
I had a teacher in school who I was convinced was a yorkshireman. Grass, bath, pass all rhymed with ass rather than arse. Apparently he was a londoner. Where the hell did he learn to speak like that in london?!  |
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"I am not sure I can comment, as my accent can be very combine harvesterish at times. It depends who I am with, as to whether it gets worse or not. Grass becomes graaaaassss and bath - baaaatthh - we seem to elongate the "a" in everything.
Or the"u" - Zyduuuuur!"
Yep!
Innit - is one I find strange. I knew someone I used to work with that seemed to put it on the end of every sentence. |
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I love accents; the fact that within such a small country we can have such variation in the way we speak is fascinating, and something to be preserved. It would be a sad day for me if accents all died out to be replaced with estuary English (for example). They're an entirely different thing from mispronounciation though. Most of the examples given above aren't accent or dialect, they're people saying things wrong! You can speak entirely 'properly' and in an educated manner with a regional accent. I should know, I do it every day  |
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo!
Of course.
I've just about drummed it in to my daughter to say "X and I"...
You can abuse the language all you like - once you've learnt to use it correctly.
Technically not pronunciation but i'll let you off!
I got an email today saying "it's done for Megan and I". It's Megan and me! You wouldn't say it's done for I you'd say it's done for me. Another little bugbear!
I'm challenging that. Its always and I when referring to someone else and yourself."
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I walked into a Polish shop and asked for something to polish my shoes. After looking around for a minute the Polish shop keeper said he had no polish because this was a Polish shop not a polish shop, however he could sell me a minute Polish sausage, if I liked small sausages.
pronunciation is probably even more important than spelling. However we shouldn't mix up bad or incorrect pronunciation with local accents. |
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"Proven...pronounced pro ven,not prooven!
Innit...Is it not..
Great scene in friends where Gary Oldman is teaching Joey how to `announciate`
And `micturation`.
How can anyone get that wrong "
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"Pronunciation.... Surely accent dictates the difference also??"
Yes it does - you'll probably appreciate that "nut" means "nope" or "no" in Weegie (certainly in a weegie accent it does)!!  |
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By *j73Couple (MM)
over a year ago
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"For me, the word pronunciation itself.
Many people pronounce it as if it is pronounce-iation, I'm in the odd few who pronounces it as pro-nun-ciation.
No idea if that is just me though.
Mr X"
Yes! Finally someone else who finds this hugely annoying. You say it as it's spelled - proNUNciation. Say what you see!
Mispronouncing the word "pronunciation" has got to be the very definition of ironic. |
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By *j73Couple (MM)
over a year ago
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"I love accents; the fact that within such a small country we can have such variation in the way we speak is fascinating, and something to be preserved. "
Absolutely, and different accents can be very attractive too. I love men with Manchester accents, probably because I haven't got one! |
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On a semi-related note, I did discover that if you use the OxfordDictionaries site, you can get a very prim and proper librarian-type lady (librarianne?) to say 'bugger' and 'fucker'
Not that you catch me doing such puerile nonsense...
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"Hey folks.
So, there may or may not be correct ways to pronounce certain words; but which get you riled when you hear them?
Mine are tissue and issue pronounced tissyou and issyou. It's tishoo and ishoo! "
Or ' bog roll' n 'drama' depending on the individual !  |
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