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"Just talk normally but type it. You don't say 'show us ya minge' in a bar, so why say it in here? Yes, it's not a bar but the basic premise remains. Just be yourself and let your personality shine through. " Worse than useless advice apparently - what do I know? | |||
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"Be CONFIDENT women love it, look up a guy named corey Wayne on youtube" Yeah, slightly rapey pickup artists are really sexy! FFS. | |||
"Just talk normally but type it. You don't say 'show us ya minge' in a bar, so why say it in here? Yes, it's not a bar but the basic premise remains. Just be yourself and let your personality shine through. Worse than useless advice apparently - what do I know? " Some men do get away with that shit though. I've seen it. The whole women love a bastard trick seem to work to. Being myself isn't exactly what women seem to want. The ones of come across romanticise am idea they have of me, the veil slips and the fabric of reality hits home. I also can't rely on alcohol to limber me up anymore | |||
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"Just talk normally but type it. You don't say 'show us ya minge' in a bar, so why say it in here? Yes, it's not a bar but the basic premise remains. Just be yourself and let your personality shine through. Worse than useless advice apparently - what do I know? " but he is being himself. And he's still not able to talk to women. | |||
"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said..." I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time  | |||
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"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said... I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time "lol, women run for miles if I say I'm a TV..they want a bloke and I am a bit girly in real life too.. and I need a woman who will buy into my dressing because Im not going to give it up, Rachael is a part of me and \i have loads and loads of clothes and wigs. Most married TVs have a bin liner or something that they keep hidden - my stuff is all over my flat | |||
"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said... I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time
lol, women run for miles if I say I'm a TV..they want a bloke and I am a bit girly in real life too.. and I need a woman who will buy into my dressing because Im not going to give it up, Rachael is a part of me and \i have loads and loads of clothes and wigs.
Most married TVs have a bin liner or something that they keep hidden - my stuff is all over my flat "do they run a mile when yer dressed as a girl. personally I find women flock to me | |||
"Try the "fuck it,won't hurt trying" approach. If they don't want to talk to you what have you lost? " The self confidence that takes a long time for me to build up | |||
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"A guy could send me a message asking what I had for breakfast that morning and provided he was tall, handsome and had a big dick I'd respond to him and have a conversation with a view to meeting. I really don't think if matters what you say as your opening message if you physically match what that particular person is looking for. If you break things down in percentages you could find that 30%of women don't like long hair on a guy or 30% don't want to meet guys that are listed as bisexual or guys that want to meet TG's. That's over half the women on this site already taken out of the equation. " Wow, that leaves me with 40% of the pool and none that percentage live in London | |||
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"A guy could send me a message asking what I had for breakfast that morning and provided he was tall, handsome and had a big dick I'd respond to him and have a conversation with a view to meeting. I really don't think if matters what you say as your opening message if you physically match what that particular person is looking for. If you break things down in percentages you could find that 30%of women don't like long hair on a guy or 30% don't want to meet guys that are listed as bisexual or guys that want to meet TG's. That's over half the women on this site already taken out of the equation. Wow, that leaves me with 40% of the pool and none that percentage live in London "Don't forget the ones you don't fancy and the ones that don't fancy you 
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"And what is wrong with long hair on a man? " In my opinion nothing, I quite like long hair on guys but surely you know, like everything not everybody will like it | |||
"I realised that even now at the age of 37 I'm still crap at talking to women, and I think it shows. I'm especially bad at talking to women on Fab as I don't really understand what is women want to hear/read. Tried being friendly and polite. Tried the dirty old fucker approach; 'alright darling, nice legs. What do they open etc. How do you prefer to be approached on Fab? " I can xx. | |||
"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said... I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time
lol, women run for miles if I say I'm a TV..they want a bloke and I am a bit girly in real life too.. and I need a woman who will buy into my dressing because Im not going to give it up, Rachael is a part of me and \i have loads and loads of clothes and wigs.
Most married TVs have a bin liner or something that they keep hidden - my stuff is all over my flat
do they run a mile when yer dressed as a girl.
personally I find women flock to me"do you mean in real life? I get interest when Im dressed but I'm really talking about a relationship. I real life I have plucked eyebrows and I wear skinny jeans and I move like a woman and I get looks because of it. But I'm still a bloke, I'm not gay, if a lovely girl and a guy passed me I'd never look at the guy. The sexual partners I attract are pretty well all blokes and Ive got a bit afraid of trying to "get off" with a woman. It's all a bit deep to get into here lol | |||
"Im shit at talking to men, especially ones I fancy, I get all tongue tied and usually just walk off, flirting isn't my forte "Me too, I can talk and talk and talk to skmeone I've met off here but meeting off here they've already expressed interest. In real life where I'm not sure if the guy finds me attractive, I can't bring myself to flirt. | |||
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"Im shit at talking to men, especially ones I fancy, I get all tongue tied and usually just walk off, flirting isn't my forte "That's my problem too. I'm not a good flirt especially if it's expected of me, by me or someone else. I'm not even that good at smiling. Saw the same woman in Tesco twice yesterday, the second time I managed a smile but I think it looked more like I was trying to fart  | |||
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"by the way, I imagine that's a bit like the OP is feeling...I imagine he's had some knocks and has lost his confidence...and it doesn't really matter how much we tell him to be confident. He needs to meet someone without sex involved but then the problem is how to move from platonic to sexual " We all get knock backs though You just have to dust yourself off and carry on Nobodies for everybody, even those who think they are | |||
"Im shit at talking to men, especially ones I fancy, I get all tongue tied and usually just walk off, flirting isn't my forte
That's my problem too. I'm not a good flirt especially if it's expected of me, by me or someone else. I'm not even that good at smiling. Saw the same woman in Tesco twice yesterday, the second time I managed a smile but I think it looked more like I was trying to fart "See OP, you're not alone. Loads of us are fucked up. Maybe that's why we are here and maybe that's why loads and loads of blokes are having sex with each other. Building relationships are soo soo hard. | |||
"Im shit at talking to men, especially ones I fancy, I get all tongue tied and usually just walk off, flirting isn't my forte
That's my problem too. I'm not a good flirt especially if it's expected of me, by me or someone else. I'm not even that good at smiling. Saw the same woman in Tesco twice yesterday, the second time I managed a smile but I think it looked more like I was trying to fart "I'm not even any good at recognising people flirting with me, even in swinging clubs if guys come over to me and talk I just think they are being polite and talking to pass time till somebody they fancy comes alone
Loads of people are like you, you just have to be yourself either it will work or it won't and if being yourself don't work I'd say they aren't for you anyway because people who like you will like you for you | |||
"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said... I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time
lol, women run for miles if I say I'm a TV..they want a bloke and I am a bit girly in real life too.. and I need a woman who will buy into my dressing because Im not going to give it up, Rachael is a part of me and \i have loads and loads of clothes and wigs.
Most married TVs have a bin liner or something that they keep hidden - my stuff is all over my flat
do they run a mile when yer dressed as a girl.
personally I find women flock to me
do you mean in real life? I get interest when Im dressed but I'm really talking about a relationship. I real life I have plucked eyebrows and I wear skinny jeans and I move like a woman and I get looks because of it. But I'm still a bloke, I'm not gay, if a lovely girl and a guy passed me I'd never look at the guy. The sexual partners I attract are pretty well all blokes and Ive got a bit afraid of trying to "get off" with a woman.
It's all a bit deep to get into here lol"OH,,not gay,,what not even bi,,i thought ALL tvs where bi despite what they say. | |||
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"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said... I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time
lol, women run for miles if I say I'm a TV..they want a bloke and I am a bit girly in real life too.. and I need a woman who will buy into my dressing because Im not going to give it up, Rachael is a part of me and \i have loads and loads of clothes and wigs.
Most married TVs have a bin liner or something that they keep hidden - my stuff is all over my flat
do they run a mile when yer dressed as a girl.
personally I find women flock to me
do you mean in real life? I get interest when Im dressed but I'm really talking about a relationship. I real life I have plucked eyebrows and I wear skinny jeans and I move like a woman and I get looks because of it. But I'm still a bloke, I'm not gay, if a lovely girl and a guy passed me I'd never look at the guy. The sexual partners I attract are pretty well all blokes and Ive got a bit afraid of trying to "get off" with a woman.
It's all a bit deep to get into here lol
OH,,not gay,,what not even bi,,i thought ALL tvs where bi despite what they say."And I was hoping they were | |||
He sends perfectly nice messages. | |||
"And what is wrong with long hair on a man? " Women's personal preferences, believe it or not they are allowed to prefer guys with muscles, 6 packs, beer bellies, skinny, fat etc it's there choice | |||
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Work out which one of those lines was said tongue-in-cheek lol | |||
"Try the "fuck it,won't hurt trying" approach. If they don't want to talk to you what have you lost? When you find someone you have things in common with the conversation should flow. " This 
There is no set approach that works with me. Some people I just find it easy to chat with on here and others I don't.
With the right people it shouldn't be hard work.
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"you know of course that everyone is going to tell you to be yourself which is less than useless. I have a confession. It's been several years since I've been in bed with a woman. Plenty of guys but they don't really do it for me like women. But my lifestyle precludes having a woman partner and I can't remember what it's like...and you develop a bit of a phobia. Blimey what have iI said... I'd be interested to know how your lifestyle precludes women. I've seen some pretty crazy set-ups in my time
lol, women run for miles if I say I'm a TV..they want a bloke and I am a bit girly in real life too.. and I need a woman who will buy into my dressing because Im not going to give it up, Rachael is a part of me and \i have loads and loads of clothes and wigs.
Most married TVs have a bin liner or something that they keep hidden - my stuff is all over my flat
do they run a mile when yer dressed as a girl.
personally I find women flock to me
do you mean in real life? I get interest when Im dressed but I'm really talking about a relationship. I real life I have plucked eyebrows and I wear skinny jeans and I move like a woman and I get looks because of it. But I'm still a bloke, I'm not gay, if a lovely girl and a guy passed me I'd never look at the guy. The sexual partners I attract are pretty well all blokes and Ive got a bit afraid of trying to "get off" with a woman.
It's all a bit deep to get into here lol
OH,,not gay,,what not even bi,,i thought ALL tvs where bi despite what they say."oh, did I say Im not bi-? We're into rainbow territory here. I don't really fancy blokes. I go with them and I love cock and I like sex with them (I love sex with them) but I fancy girls... a lot, I remember how wonderful a pussy feels and smells. I hate any man putting an arm round my shoulders if we are sitting together because I do not want to feel protected or to give up my independance (manhood) in that way. Having said that I do sometimes look at a good looking bloke but I think that is a learned response rather than inbuilt.. It is complicated, isn't it. | |||
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"Im shit at talking to men, especially ones I fancy, I get all tongue tied and usually just walk off, flirting isn't my forte
That's my problem too. I'm not a good flirt especially if it's expected of me, by me or someone else. I'm not even that good at smiling. Saw the same woman in Tesco twice yesterday, the second time I managed a smile but I think it looked more like I was trying to fart ". Haha that made me laugh | |||
"Be CONFIDENT women love it, look up a guy named corey Wayne on youtube" That's your advice...REALLY???? Oh dear! | |||
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"If you can't be yourself, be batman! " yes, this. the confident blokes I see being most successful are completely unaware of their limitations. | |||
"You don't say 'show us ya minge' in a bar." Ah, that's where I've been going wrong  | |||
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Hope this helps. | |||
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"Read our profiles!" That is actually the best piece of advice so far !! | |||
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"Don't treat women as women but as an individual person. That's whether you fancy them or not. If you're wanting to get to know someone then not having a formula is better Imo. Treat and respond to me as the unique person that I am and I'll respect you for it. Even if you just want to shag me, I'll prefer it if I appreciate that it's me that's wanted. If you respect someone then you can earn respect back. If we like each other, whilst getting along and building trust, then it can move to another level. Confidence is a separate matter. And probably the subject of a different discussion. Though having all manner of relationships with women, friends or lovers, that are high quality relationships, is likely to build confidence. I don't think that hammering your dick through a long list of women, just because you can pull them, is a strong foundation for confidence though. But only we each individually know the causes for our self-doubts etc. Be a warm and open friend, the rest may follow. " Splendid advice. | |||
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