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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So we have bought a 2002 Saab to tide us over till we can get an engine rebuild done on our 207 gt. Anyway recently it will not start if you take it on say a 1 or 2 mile run. Leave it 4 or 5 hours and it starts. It's so confusing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Which engine is in it?
It's the 2.0 ltr turbo. I thought it could be a bad earth but they have all been checked and cleaned."
Crank sensor would be first guess (presuming its the petrol). If its the 2ltr dti then check the butterfly valve operation in the intake manifold. Had this on an old signum and it would kill all power to the car, fixed it by removing the vacuum pipe and plugging the pipe with blu tac.  |
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"Crank sensor all clear. That us what we thought originally. It's an automatic. The nss has been checked and found to be working correctly. "
Does this happen randomly? Ie. Will start and run fine then refuses to start after a short run? Does the starter motor turn? If not check the starter motor is bolted on correctly as it earths to the engine block. Had one on a mondeo that was only secured with one bolt and it caused random failure to start unless helped with jump leads even though battery was brand new and fully charged. |
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"Crank sensor all clear. That us what we thought originally. It's an automatic. The nss has been checked and found to be working correctly.
Does this happen randomly? Ie. Will start and run fine then refuses to start after a short run? Does the starter motor turn? If not check the starter motor is bolted on correctly as it earths to the engine block. Had one on a mondeo that was only secured with one bolt and it caused random failure to start unless helped with jump leads even though battery was brand new and fully charged."
Random failure to turn over is a different thing to failure to start. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have a vectra Diesel doing exactly the same thing at the moment, it has stumped the finest minds of the automotive trade"
Not starting randomly? Does the yellow spanner come on the dash and you lose all power then it refuses to restart? If so I have the fix |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Crank sensor all clear. That us what we thought originally. It's an automatic. The nss has been checked and found to be working correctly.
Does this happen randomly? Ie. Will start and run fine then refuses to start after a short run? Does the starter motor turn? If not check the starter motor is bolted on correctly as it earths to the engine block. Had one on a mondeo that was only secured with one bolt and it caused random failure to start unless helped with jump leads even though battery was brand new and fully charged.
Random failure to turn over is a different thing to failure to start. "
That's what I wanted to check, the OP mentioned having the earths checked which lead me to wonder if it is not starting or not cranking over. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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It doesn't shut off when driving or stall. For instance we could go out this morning and it would start. Say run 5 or 6 miles. Get out go back to it and it would start. Now make a third journey go to start it and it won't turn over . Leave it say 6 hours and it would start straight away. |
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"It doesn't shut off when driving or stall. For instance we could go out this morning and it would start. Say run 5 or 6 miles. Get out go back to it and it would start. Now make a third journey go to start it and it won't turn over . Leave it say 6 hours and it would start straight away."
Sounds like a starter motor not engaging but is hard to tell without listening to the noise (or lack of) when trying to crank. Ideally you need to check with a multimeter when cranking to make sure you are getting enough current to the starter. When it refuses to crank over, are you able to start it off jump leads? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It doesn't shut off when driving or stall. For instance we could go out this morning and it would start. Say run 5 or 6 miles. Get out go back to it and it would start. Now make a third journey go to start it and it won't turn over . Leave it say 6 hours and it would start straight away."
Next time it refuses to crank, get someone to rest a piece of wood against the starter motor and tap the wood with a hammer. If it fires up then its the starter motor or earth to the starter. Not too expensive to put a new one on. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I have a vectra Diesel doing exactly the same thing at the moment, it has stumped the finest minds of the automotive trade
Not starting randomly? Does the yellow spanner come on the dash and you lose all power then it refuses to restart? If so I have the fix"
Can you PM details please, scratching our heads with it at the moment |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have a vectra Diesel doing exactly the same thing at the moment, it has stumped the finest minds of the automotive trade
Not starting randomly? Does the yellow spanner come on the dash and you lose all power then it refuses to restart? If so I have the fix
Can you PM details please, scratching our heads with it at the moment "
Done, hope it helps. I know it drove me mental for weeks until I got it fixed, Vauxhall wanted 4k to replace the entire intake side of engine. Cost me 5 pence to fix |
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