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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Whilst listening to BBC Radio Devon around lunchtime they were talking about Princess Hay shopping centre in Exeter now using mobile phones to track where customers go whilst shopping (specific shops and where abouts within those shops)
The only way to opt out of this is to turn your mobile phone off before entering. The tracking system looses contact with your device if it hasn't been moved for 6 hours and still switched on.
Invasion of privacy a step too far? or perhaps just some no nuisance market research?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Corrct me if Im wrong but if you were to turn off the GPS on the phone but leave your phone on then I dont think they can follow you"
sounds logical to me. |
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It doesn't work using GPS, it works using the phone signal. It doesn't take any personal data, just x amount of people are shopping in Primark etc.
Invasion of privacy, not really at the moment, but if it is developed further, then yes it could be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Invasion of privacy?
Whether or not it records specific data on you then yes as far as I'm concerned it is
People are being tracked and that's wrong
Won't be in my life time I hope but compulsory chipping of all newborns to track them and hold data on them in a readable body implanted chip is on the way George Orwell just got the date wrong is all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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With the right know how you can turn a phone into a listening device to listen to calls or even the area surroundihng the phone and see what the camera can see, view messages sent and received, view call lists, phone book. Not science fiction fact!!!  |
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Shopping centers have always tracked people shopping. They did it with CCTV, which cost man hours, but now with technology progressing they can do it easier with mobile phones.
Yes, I agree it is an invasion of privacy. But compared to what goes on everyday by other means, I think a shopping center tracking my shopping habits, is small fish.
Sometimes I want to be Bart Simpson sat in a corner cowering with tin foil wrapped around my head so "they" can't get me!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The tracking system looses contact with your device if it hasn't been moved for 6 hours and still switched on. "
This is way beyond market resarch, it's an invasion of your life, and I would say time to boycott the shopping centres that use it....
Not personalised? lets follow this then.
you walk into a shopping centre and all the camera's are on you, after 2 or 3 location changes they can put your face photo with your phone number. along with all your purchases,
Where you live is about the only place your phone is still for 6 hours so all they need is a name (card purchase) to have.
Name
Address
Photo
Phone Number
and everywhere you go on your way home!
how personalised does it have to be? |
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By *exybabyMan
over a year ago
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"The tracking system looses contact with your device if it hasn't been moved for 6 hours and still switched on.
This is way beyond market resarch, it's an invasion of your life, and I would say time to boycott the shopping centres that use it....
Not personalised? lets follow this then.
you walk into a shopping centre and all the camera's are on you, after 2 or 3 location changes they can put your face photo with your phone number. along with all your purchases,
Where you live is about the only place your phone is still for 6 hours so all they need is a name (card purchase) to have.
Name
Address
Photo
Phone Number
and everywhere you go on your way home!
how personalised does it have to be? "
BIG BROTHER again!! He won't be satisfied until he knows how often you go to the toilet and whether or not it was a number one or a jobbie!!  |
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It is a bit sneaky but I believe the data is anonymous.
Anybody use a reward card type thing like nectar points or similar?
Now that IS big brother, the shit they know about you but also what they can predict you will do and when from those things is utterly frightening! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No they couldn't, thats why the man who invented the "loyalty card" is a multi-millionaire now... the shops didn't have any way of getting your home address without that! 
plus paying by card wouldn't show you walking through the streets, stopping for meets etc. on your way home.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some cashback sites use this functionality, albeit as an opt in rather than an opt out system.
You go into shop, click on app to say you are there...you get cashback.
You are right ...big brother is watching, along with his sister and the rest of his family from the sounds of things lol |
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at the time of the last election it was hinted at in the press that it would be the last one with the traditional paper vote and that in future we'd see ballot stations in supermarkets, etc as loyalty cards, credit cards, etc have more info on us than even HMG |
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"Invasion of privacy?
Whether or not it records specific data on you then yes as far as I'm concerned it is
People are being tracked and that's wrong
Won't be in my life time I hope but compulsory chipping of all newborns to track them and hold data on them in a readable body implanted chip is on the way George Orwell just got the date wrong is all"
There is a family in America who got implanted with chips in about 2004. The gullible fools were on the news saying well if it help keeps my family safe I am up for it. The chip constantly monitors where they are 24 hours a day.
Apprently a lot of US soldiers and Mexican police have the implants.
If you search you tube for RFID implants be prepared to get very scared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9T71XdydmE&feature=related |
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"With the right know how you can turn a phone into a listening device to listen to calls or even the area surroundihng the phone and see what the camera can see, view messages sent and received, view call lists, phone book. Not science fiction fact!!! "
You can also still be listened to you when your mobile is switched off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"With the right know how you can turn a phone into a listening device to listen to calls or even the area surroundihng the phone and see what the camera can see, view messages sent and received, view call lists, phone book. Not science fiction fact!!!
You can also still be listened to you when your mobile is switched off. "
that's it then, we are all pucked! |
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I'm not sure I can post a link to the site to back this up, but if you Google the keywords F-Secure German Police Silent SMS then you'll find the details
Briefly the police in Germany have been found to be sending "silent text messages" to suspects' mobile phones, in order to track them. These text messages don't appear on your phone, and you don't even know that your phone has received one, but your phone does acknowledge the SMS and as a result then communicates with your network's nearest base station.
They sent almost half a million of these last year alone!
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By *edhotminxWoman
over a year ago
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The monitoring they do at Princesshey is using Bluetooth technology. If you switch your Bluetooth off they can't track your footfall. Allegedly it's all about marketing, to make the shopping experience more enjoyable and for shopping centres to decide on what shops to have in their centres.
The signs that they have telling you about this are usually too high up and you can't read the damn things. I know that in future I'll be turning my Bluetooth off when in Exeter. |
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