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Debunking Sexual Myths 1: Squirting
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Over recent days I’ve been involved in conversations with forum users about myths and prejudices surrounding human sexuality. As a result I ran a thread yesterday to see if we could generate some themes. When I have the time and inclination I’ll do a spin off thread on one of the themes.
So the theme for this one is squirting. It has arisen innumerable times on forum threads. However it would be great if this thread was conducted in a spirit of respectful mutual inquiry. We can share experiences and understand each other’s perspectives without the need to shame anyone and be derogatory which sometimes happens.
To kick it off I’m going to share recent BBC article that references the latest research into the subject that I know of and sets about trying to understand this mysterious and somewhat controversial topic.
Have a read and let’s see how this goes...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/544c5686-e3bc-4ac2-b4ca-f91eccefe441 |
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Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it. |
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I was under the impression that squirting as seen maybe in porn movies, is just a case of the female performer drinking lots of liquids and force projecting urine, helped by the pressure placed on bladder from the male performer. Most performers don't experience real orgasms as is well known so a natural 'squirt' and the amount of natural stimulation ie:-'mental/emotional' a female performer would need is highly unlikely I think? |
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"Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it. "
I think one of the issues is certainly how it has been glorified through the porn industry. However sex in general can be messy, I think one important part of this issue is those who do squirt sometimes are made to feel ashamed about it. |
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"If you put your cock too close to the sun it will melt proven other day by that guy wanting his son to join him in a 3some icarus lied"
Is your cock feathered LoO?  ps. No I dont want it before you say something.
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"I was under the impression that squirting as seen maybe in porn movies, is just a case of the female performer drinking lots of liquids and force projecting urine, helped by the pressure placed on bladder from the male performer. Most performers don't experience real orgasms as is well known so a natural 'squirt' and the amount of natural stimulation ie:-'mental/emotional' a female performer would need is highly unlikely I think?"
In the article that is exactly what is reported by porn actresses as well as the pressure to actually squirt. This in my view certainly significantly contribute to why unrealistic expectations and to the glorification of the imagined spectacle of squirting. |
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"If you put your cock too close to the sun it will melt proven other day by that guy wanting his son to join him in a 3some icarus lied"
I appreciate your humour LOO however it would be great if we could stay on topic. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it.
I think one of the issues is certainly how it has been glorified through the porn industry. However sex in general can be messy, I think one important part of this issue is those who do squirt sometimes are made to feel ashamed about it. "
But has it? Well yes, but by that I mean its popular in porn, so those watching it clearly enjoy it, otherwise as a... Trend it would not be as common if it was not being watched. A bit of give the people what they want. |
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"Just to add, a discussion should be seen as educational, not an attack on your "opinions". Be open to learning from what others have said. "
This is very much the intent of this these threads. Thank you.
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"Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it.
I think one of the issues is certainly how it has been glorified through the porn industry. However sex in general can be messy, I think one important part of this issue is those who do squirt sometimes are made to feel ashamed about it.
But has it? Well yes, but by that I mean its popular in porn, so those watching it clearly enjoy it, otherwise as a... Trend it would not be as common if it was not being watched. A bit of give the people what they want. "
I think the popularity has certainly arisen due to the spectacle and the apparent pleasure that porn has promoted. The shaming has come through misconceptions and uncertainty about the science behind the phenomena as well as the unrealistic expectations placed on women because of it. |
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"If you put your cock too close to the sun it will melt proven other day by that guy wanting his son to join him in a 3some icarus lied
I appreciate your humour LOO however it would be great if we could stay on topic."
sorry d7de im crap at serious
So il just say squirting is what it is some do some dont
Its like some people will see a ghost and shit some wont  |
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"If you put your cock too close to the sun it will melt proven other day by that guy wanting his son to join him in a 3some icarus lied
I appreciate your humour LOO however it would be great if we could stay on topic.sorry d7de im crap at serious
So il just say squirting is what it is some do some dont
Its like some people will see a ghost and shit some wont "
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"Here is a recent thread on the topic that starts with the myth 
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/943123
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That was such a popcorn post, however there were some remarks people made that certainly shamed and ostracized people based on their opinions, or what they like, as a result of....who knows. I was actually discussing two remarks made by two different responders on that post in private. |
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"Here is a recent thread on the topic that starts with the myth
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/943123
That was such a popcorn post, however there were some remarks people made that certainly shamed and ostracized people based on their opinions, or what they like, as a result of....who knows. I was actually discussing two remarks made by two different responders on that post in private. "
Yes I noticed that. Behaviour like that only serves to perpetuate misunderstandings, feelings of shame and reinforce the preconceptions sadly. |
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"Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it. "
The article says it's can only be 0.3 ml this is much less volume than a male ejaculates, so very messy is adding to the myth. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Here is a recent thread on the topic that starts with the myth
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/943123
That was such a popcorn post, however there were some remarks people made that certainly shamed and ostracized people based on their opinions, or what they like, as a result of....who knows. I was actually discussing two remarks made by two different responders on that post in private.
Yes I noticed that. Behaviour like that only serves to perpetuate misunderstandings, feelings of shame and reinforce the preconceptions sadly."
Indeed. It is perfectly possible and reasonable to dislike something, yet do so without demonising something that is enjoyed by all those involved.
Even if you think something is the most monstrous act in the world, it is not a requirement to have those that enjoy it be made to feel demonised.
Personally it does nothing extra for me, if who I'm with enjoys it I will enjoy it. It neither enhances or detracts from my enjoyment of the experience with them.
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Squirting is just another way our bodies react to pleasure, like ladies who pass out in orgasm, everyone is different and getting hung up on "I must achieve that result" often produces a different reaction anyway. As long as we all achieve pleasure in the journey the end result is not important to me. |
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Biggest myth for us is that it equates to an orgasm. The two can mutually coincide but doesn’t mean squirting is actually an orgasm, it’s more a reaction to certain stimulation - like a sneeze! - and usually happens without orgasm for me.
To be honest, it’s a spectacle but don’t particularly enjoy it and we don’t usually try and do it between ourselves. Something that has happened on meets before but it’s something that wouldn’t bother me if never happened again and quite puts us off now when guys are desperate for “a squirter” xx |
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"Biggest myth for us is that it equates to an orgasm. The two can mutually coincide but doesn’t mean squirting is actually an orgasm, it’s more a reaction to certain stimulation - like a sneeze! - and usually happens without orgasm for me.
To be honest, it’s a spectacle but don’t particularly enjoy it and we don’t usually try and do it between ourselves. Something that has happened on meets before but it’s something that wouldn’t bother me if never happened again and quite puts us off now when guys are desperate for “a squirter” xx "
I’m not surprised it is off putting when it is sought like some holy grail - a goal oriented approach to sex tends to lead to less satisfaction and enjoyment for all involved in my experience. It creates pressure, performance anxiety and a negative self image at times as well. |
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"Squirting is just another way our bodies react to pleasure, like ladies who pass out in orgasm, everyone is different and getting hung up on "I must achieve that result" often produces a different reaction anyway. As long as we all achieve pleasure in the journey the end result is not important to me."
I think concentrating on discovering what gives each other pleasure is a much more appropriate goal or result to achieve. Enjoying the journey of mutual exploration if you like. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Biggest myth for us is that it equates to an orgasm. The two can mutually coincide but doesn’t mean squirting is actually an orgasm, it’s more a reaction to certain stimulation - like a sneeze! - and usually happens without orgasm for me.
To be honest, it’s a spectacle but don’t particularly enjoy it and we don’t usually try and do it between ourselves. Something that has happened on meets before but it’s something that wouldn’t bother me if never happened again and quite puts us off now when guys are desperate for “a squirter” xx
I’m not surprised it is off putting when it is sought like some holy grail - a goal oriented approach to sex tends to lead to less satisfaction and enjoyment for all involved in my experience. It creates pressure, performance anxiety and a negative self image at times as well."
Both sides promote it too, yes it tends to be mostly men, but there are definitely women who will boast or even expect it.
Which is fine that they enjoy it, but they are just enforcing the Holy grail effect. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum 
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity"
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation. |
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"Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it. "
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Thanks for the interesting article OP. It’s similar to a few other articles I’ve read in the past.
The first time I gushed it was such a surprise, I wasn’t sure what the flipping heck had happened. Thankfully the partner I was with was pretty cool about it and we ended up having a laugh. Since then I’ve learnt exactly what makes me gush, what position and how to stop it if my partner doesn’t like it.
I’ll also add that just because I gushed doesn’t mean I’ve cum. For me they are usually two different things entirely. But I guess everyone is different eh. That’s the joy of being human |
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"Biggest myth for us is that it equates to an orgasm. The two can mutually coincide but doesn’t mean squirting is actually an orgasm, it’s more a reaction to certain stimulation - like a sneeze! - and usually happens without orgasm for me.
To be honest, it’s a spectacle but don’t particularly enjoy it and we don’t usually try and do it between ourselves. Something that has happened on meets before but it’s something that wouldn’t bother me if never happened again and quite puts us off now when guys are desperate for “a squirter” xx
I’m not surprised it is off putting when it is sought like some holy grail - a goal oriented approach to sex tends to lead to less satisfaction and enjoyment for all involved in my experience. It creates pressure, performance anxiety and a negative self image at times as well.
Both sides promote it too, yes it tends to be mostly men, but there are definitely women who will boast or even expect it.
Which is fine that they enjoy it, but they are just enforcing the Holy grail effect. "
The reinforcement of the holy grail myth is for sure not just done by men. Both sexes contribute by colluding in its perpetuation. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation."
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
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"Biggest myth for us is that it equates to an orgasm. The two can mutually coincide but doesn’t mean squirting is actually an orgasm, it’s more a reaction to certain stimulation - like a sneeze! - and usually happens without orgasm for me.
To be honest, it’s a spectacle but don’t particularly enjoy it and we don’t usually try and do it between ourselves. Something that has happened on meets before but it’s something that wouldn’t bother me if never happened again and quite puts us off now when guys are desperate for “a squirter” xx
I’m not surprised it is off putting when it is sought like some holy grail - a goal oriented approach to sex tends to lead to less satisfaction and enjoyment for all involved in my experience. It creates pressure, performance anxiety and a negative self image at times as well.
Both sides promote it too, yes it tends to be mostly men, but there are definitely women who will boast or even expect it.
Which is fine that they enjoy it, but they are just enforcing the Holy grail effect.
The reinforcement of the holy grail myth is for sure not just done by men. Both sexes contribute by colluding in its perpetuation."
Not a myth we would reinforce though, quite the opposite. Would rather cum once than squirt a dozen times honestly but each to their own xx |
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"Thanks for the interesting article OP. It’s similar to a few other articles I’ve read in the past.
The first time I gushed it was such a surprise, I wasn’t sure what the flipping heck had happened. Thankfully the partner I was with was pretty cool about it and we ended up having a laugh. Since then I’ve learnt exactly what makes me gush, what position and how to stop it if my partner doesn’t like it.
I’ll also add that just because I gushed doesn’t mean I’ve cum. For me they are usually two different things entirely. But I guess everyone is different eh. That’s the joy of being human "
I have never experienced it, but the more we understand about it, what it is, how it occurs, how it can be controlled, what factors make it more or less likely and recognise it as one of the possible joys of being human, the better. |
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"Biggest myth for us is that it equates to an orgasm. The two can mutually coincide but doesn’t mean squirting is actually an orgasm, it’s more a reaction to certain stimulation - like a sneeze! - and usually happens without orgasm for me.
To be honest, it’s a spectacle but don’t particularly enjoy it and we don’t usually try and do it between ourselves. Something that has happened on meets before but it’s something that wouldn’t bother me if never happened again and quite puts us off now when guys are desperate for “a squirter” xx
I’m not surprised it is off putting when it is sought like some holy grail - a goal oriented approach to sex tends to lead to less satisfaction and enjoyment for all involved in my experience. It creates pressure, performance anxiety and a negative self image at times as well.
Both sides promote it too, yes it tends to be mostly men, but there are definitely women who will boast or even expect it.
Which is fine that they enjoy it, but they are just enforcing the Holy grail effect.
The reinforcement of the holy grail myth is for sure not just done by men. Both sexes contribute by colluding in its perpetuation.
Not a myth we would reinforce though, quite the opposite. Would rather cum once than squirt a dozen times honestly but each to their own xx"
Yes. I think that is one of the aspects of the myth that somehow it is a spectacular symbol of ecstatic pleasure. Some orgasms are not as spectacular and therefore mustn’t be as pleasurable. |
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I have slept with... a number of women . Only one could squirt. It was fun but then so is giving women convulsing orgasms!
Personally I never have but then I've never had an orgasm just from gspot stimulation. Yet I have managed to have a few simply by squeezing my legs together when I have been very excited. Gspot stimulation has made me create some rather impressive wet patches when combined with clitoral stimulation but nothing has ever squirted out. In fact I only tend to notice the puddle after so I'm not sure if it happened during orgasm or just gradually spread from me getting wetter and wetter during play.
I think people often get too hung up on what they can and cannot do sexually or what they can and cannot do to others. As long as everyone is happy with the experience that is really all that matters. We are all built differently, as the article says.
It's interesting what it says about finding something that is produced by the prostate. We do all start off the same in the womb and develop differently depending on the hormones we are exposed to and I have long believed that we basically have different versions of the same bits. Some men can cum just from prostate stimulation alone and some can't just like with women and their gspot. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation.
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
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Indeed but even if they have no wish to be involved in it or for it to happen understanding will help them not to feel it is somehow a disgusting act. We can at least respect our differences and preferences in an informed way. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation.
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
Indeed but even if they have no wish to be involved in it or for it to happen understanding will help them not to feel it is somehow a disgusting act. We can at least respect our differences and preferences in an informed way."
Respect works both ways. Someone may find it disgusting but keep that to themselves- respectful. Suggesting their dislike is 'wrong' and that they should change how they feel about it is surely disrespecting their preferences. |
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Personally I really enjoy it when a woman squirts regardless of what the fluid actually is. So long as we're both enjoying our time together surely that's all that matters.
It isn't a trophy or goal to be won for me. If it happens, bonus! If it doesn't I can guarantee I'll have still enjoyed our time together.
Porn has a lot to answer for though in terms of warping people's perception and expectations of not just this but sex in general.
Good informative article though OP and good to have a positive discussion rather than a playground dispute.
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"I have slept with... a number of women . Only one could squirt. It was fun but then so is giving women convulsing orgasms!
Personally I never have but then I've never had an orgasm just from gspot stimulation. Yet I have managed to have a few simply by squeezing my legs together when I have been very excited. Gspot stimulation has made me create some rather impressive wet patches when combined with clitoral stimulation but nothing has ever squirted out. In fact I only tend to notice the puddle after so I'm not sure if it happened during orgasm or just gradually spread from me getting wetter and wetter during play.
I think people often get too hung up on what they can and cannot do sexually or what they can and cannot do to others. As long as everyone is happy with the experience that is really all that matters. We are all built differently, as the article says.
It's interesting what it says about finding something that is produced by the prostate. We do all start off the same in the womb and develop differently depending on the hormones we are exposed to and I have long believed that we basically have different versions of the same bits. Some men can cum just from prostate stimulation alone and some can't just like with women and their gspot."
Like you I have only experienced very wet sex with big damp patches and know that the activities leading up to orgasm where significant contributing factors.
The link between the Skene glands and prostatic fluids is an interesting finding but has been known about for a while.
However I find convulsing female and male orgasms very enjoyable to experience. Finding out how I could end up convulsing was probably my most memorable sexual experience. Shame it took to the age of 54 to find out |
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"I have slept with... a number of women . Only one could squirt. It was fun but then so is giving women convulsing orgasms!
Personally I never have but then I've never had an orgasm just from gspot stimulation. Yet I have managed to have a few simply by squeezing my legs together when I have been very excited. Gspot stimulation has made me create some rather impressive wet patches when combined with clitoral stimulation but nothing has ever squirted out. In fact I only tend to notice the puddle after so I'm not sure if it happened during orgasm or just gradually spread from me getting wetter and wetter during play.
I think people often get too hung up on what they can and cannot do sexually or what they can and cannot do to others. As long as everyone is happy with the experience that is really all that matters. We are all built differently, as the article says.
It's interesting what it says about finding something that is produced by the prostate. We do all start off the same in the womb and develop differently depending on the hormones we are exposed to and I have long believed that we basically have different versions of the same bits. Some men can cum just from prostate stimulation alone and some can't just like with women and their gspot.
Like you I have only experienced very wet sex with big damp patches and know that the activities leading up to orgasm where significant contributing factors.
The link between the Skene glands and prostatic fluids is an interesting finding but has been known about for a while.
However I find convulsing female and male orgasms very enjoyable to experience. Finding out how I could end up convulsing was probably my most memorable sexual experience. Shame it took to the age of 54 to find out "
At least you found out at 54 and still have time to explore it further! |
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"Personally I really enjoy it when a woman squirts regardless of what the fluid actually is. So long as we're both enjoying our time together surely that's all that matters.
It isn't a trophy or goal to be won for me. If it happens, bonus! If it doesn't I can guarantee I'll have still enjoyed our time together.
Porn has a lot to answer for though in terms of warping people's perception and expectations of not just this but sex in general.
Good informative article though OP and good to have a positive discussion rather than a playground dispute.
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Yes I’m glad the thread is going the way I hoped so far.
I particularly liked the bit in the article that explained porn actresses use extreme hydration or vaginal douching to create the spectacle that is seen in so many squirting videos and how that perpetuates the glorification aspect of the myth. |
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"I have slept with... a number of women . Only one could squirt. It was fun but then so is giving women convulsing orgasms!
Personally I never have but then I've never had an orgasm just from gspot stimulation. Yet I have managed to have a few simply by squeezing my legs together when I have been very excited. Gspot stimulation has made me create some rather impressive wet patches when combined with clitoral stimulation but nothing has ever squirted out. In fact I only tend to notice the puddle after so I'm not sure if it happened during orgasm or just gradually spread from me getting wetter and wetter during play.
I think people often get too hung up on what they can and cannot do sexually or what they can and cannot do to others. As long as everyone is happy with the experience that is really all that matters. We are all built differently, as the article says.
It's interesting what it says about finding something that is produced by the prostate. We do all start off the same in the womb and develop differently depending on the hormones we are exposed to and I have long believed that we basically have different versions of the same bits. Some men can cum just from prostate stimulation alone and some can't just like with women and their gspot.
Like you I have only experienced very wet sex with big damp patches and know that the activities leading up to orgasm where significant contributing factors.
The link between the Skene glands and prostatic fluids is an interesting finding but has been known about for a while.
However I find convulsing female and male orgasms very enjoyable to experience. Finding out how I could end up convulsing was probably my most memorable sexual experience. Shame it took to the age of 54 to find out
At least you found out at 54 and still have time to explore it further!"
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These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is |
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"These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is "
That’s a really nice summary of the assumptions |
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"I didn't even experience this until this year! Im 45 x
Did you think you couldn’t squirt or gush?"
I don't think i even knew what it was lol! Im quite innocent, until I'm not if that makes sense, i very much view my body.as an experimental vessel and there's little i won't do at least once!
No-one had ever tried tbh that i know of. |
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"I didn't even experience this until this year! Im 45 x
Did you think you couldn’t squirt or gush?
I don't think i even knew what it was lol! Im quite innocent, until I'm not if that makes sense, i very much view my body.as an experimental vessel and there's little i won't do at least once!
No-one had ever tried tbh that i know of."
Yeah I view my body in the same way and love to meet people who feel similarly.
I think this is when things like squirting often happen inadvertently because those involved are engaged in an open minded, mutually respectful voyage of discovery of what gives each other pleasure. |
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"These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is "
More money should be spent on researching what squirting is. Cancer won't ever be cured, they could use that money. |
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"These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is
More money should be spent on researching what squirting is. Cancer won't ever be cured, they could use that money."
I didn't suggest any money should be spend on it. What I find strange that so many people state that they know what squirting is when even those Drs who study it don't. |
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"These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is
More money should be spent on researching what squirting is. Cancer won't ever be cured, they could use that money.
I didn't suggest any money should be spend on it. What I find strange that so many people state that they know what squirting is when even those Drs who study it don't."
I agree. |
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I feel what's interesting through all of this is that culturally - there is a derision on this topic. This topic would never get the spectacle it has here over in North America; squirting and female ejaculation is considered a celebrated and natural act, and to suggest it is dirty, or as reasons to admonish those who can from being part of orgies or group sex due to be it unclean, or that there is an incontinence issue behind it would be cause for serious backlash on those people who say that, where here it is almost opposite based on what I have observed in the forums on this site.
I think it's important to note that because british law has ruled out female squirting and ejaculation in porn that maybe there is less knowledge around it which contributes to these myths being so widely accepted.
It's all just an opinion, loosely based on what I have observed thus far.
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"These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is
More money should be spent on researching what squirting is. Cancer won't ever be cured, they could use that money.
I didn't suggest any money should be spend on it. What I find strange that so many people state that they know what squirting is when even those Drs who study it don't."
I think the most valuable research will come from people sharing their experiences and validating each other’s subjective experiences. The positivistic scientific research won’t get much further until there are other ways to investigate such phenomena at relatively lost costs. |
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"I feel what's interesting through all of this is that culturally - there is a derision on this topic. This topic would never get the spectacle it has here over in North America; squirting and female ejaculation is considered a celebrated and natural act, and to suggest it is dirty, or as reasons to admonish those who can from being part of orgies or group sex due to be it unclean, or that there is an incontinence issue behind it would be cause for serious backlash on those people who say that, where here it is almost opposite based on what I have observed in the forums on this site.
I think it's important to note that because british law has ruled out female squirting and ejaculation in porn that maybe there is less knowledge around it which contributes to these myths being so widely accepted.
It's all just an opinion, loosely based on what I have observed thus far.
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Thankfully the guidelines for the CPS on obscene pornography were changed early this year which means we are now is more permissive in this area. However our historical prudishness, antiquated laws and sexually repressive culture have undoubtedly contributed to the distorted perceptions and beliefs. |
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I’ve gushed a couple of times and it’s definitely not like weeing myself. Luckily it’s been welcomed by my partners at the time. But squirting isn’t something I aspire to do. I think it would make me feel bad if someone I was with thought if it happened it was messy and dirty x |
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"What concerns me about the article is the reference that the fluid comes from the urethra
In my experience it certainly has not. it has always come from within the vagina "
At this time there’s no scientific study that reveals a vaginal discharge consistent with squirting. Like you I have only experienced when a woman gets very wet through vaginal lubrication but neither of those in my experience would I have called squirting or gushing.
There is still much to be understood. |
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"I’ve gushed a couple of times and it’s definitely not like weeing myself. Luckily it’s been welcomed by my partners at the time. But squirting isn’t something I aspire to do. I think it would make me feel bad if someone I was with thought if it happened it was messy and dirty x "
I think that’s really important. For those of who are sensitive it is very likely that they would feel ‘bad’ when the act is described in negative ways. |
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"These are the things I think are the most common myths.
1. All women can squirt.
2. It's always messy as the article states can be as small a volume as 0.3 ml hardly constitutes messy.
3. It is not akin to watersports, it's not a concious decision to pee on another.
4. It's urinary incontinence due to sexual activity due to a weak pelvic floor.
5. Science know what exactly it is.
As for the science part all the trials the scientists have said, that it's difficult to study it effectively. Due to small numbers in the studies and that either it requires participants to take their fluids into the centre or they are in a lab. None of which are ideal for determining what the phenomenon is "
Thank you Frida! |
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Sometimes it is hard to find balance between sharing that you enjoy something and exposing yourself to some criticism, but at the same time also not sounding like a boasting cow . Hope i never did. But it's also not good to suppress a joy of sharing things that make you sexually happy, I think.
So good to read the views of all... also helps me to be more aware of those who find it too much.. to inform them beforehand of possibility of it happening and allowing them to make a choice. So thanks for that. |
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"Sometimes it is hard to find balance between sharing that you enjoy something and exposing yourself to some criticism, but at the same time also not sounding like a boasting cow . Hope i never did. But it's also not good to suppress a joy of sharing things that make you sexually happy, I think.
So good to read the views of all... also helps me to be more aware of those who find it too much.. to inform them beforehand of possibility of it happening and allowing them to make a choice. So thanks for that. "
I think it’s both important to be able to celebrate the things that give us pleasure and understand each other’s preferences without feeling either will be criticised. However I’m talking about preferences rather than prejudices. |
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It's not something I've experienced personally - I've been with a few women who have but what makes it hot isn't the fact they have but more the amount of pleasure they received from it at the time (talking from personal experience and not dismissing the not orgasming but squirting experiences). I do get incredibly wet and sometimes I've felt like I've been about to but then nothing happens. I kind of worry about getting *too* wet and not squirting! A bit like I'm disappoting the other. As far as the makeup of it, it doesn't really concern me. It's bodily fluids and that's okay with me.
I do feel like sometimes there can be a pressure to, like when people proudly proclaim I've not been with them yet and there's this failsafe "technique". I think that for some women it won't happen and that's okay. If it ends up feeling like that's the primary goal I end up drying up and uninterested. |
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Absolutely!! Squirting probably originates from the bladder, as there isn’t any other structure within that area of the female anatomy that’s able to hold that much liquid, or propel it with that much strength,”
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"It's not something I've experienced personally - I've been with a few women who have but what makes it hot isn't the fact they have but more the amount of pleasure they received from it at the time (talking from personal experience and not dismissing the not orgasming but squirting experiences). I do get incredibly wet and sometimes I've felt like I've been about to but then nothing happens. I kind of worry about getting *too* wet and not squirting! A bit like I'm disappoting the other. As far as the makeup of it, it doesn't really concern me. It's bodily fluids and that's okay with me.
I do feel like sometimes there can be a pressure to, like when people proudly proclaim I've not been with them yet and there's this failsafe "technique". I think that for some women it won't happen and that's okay. If it ends up feeling like that's the primary goal I end up drying up and uninterested. "
It’s funny there was a time when I thought I must be pretty shit because I hadn’t ever caused a woman to gush or squirt. I was reassured when I discovered some of the realities and how women really felt about it. I’m simply glad that I am able to help a woman to orgasm from time to time, when I get an opportunity and no longer concern myself with it. |
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"Absolutely!! Squirting probably originates from the bladder, as there isn’t any other structure within that area of the female anatomy that’s able to hold that much liquid, or propel it with that much strength,”
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Yes it’s highly probable although as sensualove said above his personal experience suggested something else may have happened. I think the important bit is qualitative difference in the consistency, taste and smell of the ejaculate compared to normal urine. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation.
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
Indeed but even if they have no wish to be involved in it or for it to happen understanding will help them not to feel it is somehow a disgusting act. We can at least respect our differences and preferences in an informed way.
Respect works both ways. Someone may find it disgusting but keep that to themselves- respectful. Suggesting their dislike is 'wrong' and that they should change how they feel about it is surely disrespecting their preferences. "
I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed. |
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"Absolutely!! Squirting probably originates from the bladder, as there isn’t any other structure within that area of the female anatomy that’s able to hold that much liquid, or propel it with that much strength,”
Yes it’s highly probable although as sensualove said above his personal experience suggested something else may have happened. I think the important bit is qualitative difference in the consistency, taste and smell of the ejaculate compared to normal urine."
Does it really matter where it comes from? All males ejaculation travels via the urethra. For me personally if I squirt it's a small volume of a milky white fluid, plus it does not shoot out with any force. Although this is different to what other ladies on this forum have described. Think as with everything in life there is lot of variation, whereas porn has sold us one view of squirting |
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"Absolutely!! Squirting probably originates from the bladder, as there isn’t any other structure within that area of the female anatomy that’s able to hold that much liquid, or propel it with that much strength,”
Yes it’s highly probable although as sensualove said above his personal experience suggested something else may have happened. I think the important bit is qualitative difference in the consistency, taste and smell of the ejaculate compared to normal urine.
Does it really matter where it comes from? All males ejaculation travels via the urethra. For me personally if I squirt it's a small volume of a milky white fluid, plus it does not shoot out with any force. Although this is different to what other ladies on this forum have described. Think as with everything in life there is lot of variation, whereas porn has sold us one view of squirting"
And the porn picture of squirting is frequently based on fakery using douching and extreme hydration.
I think understanding it helps educate people. I am not bothered personally whether it comes from the Urethra or not. I think it is a wonder of the human body and see it that way. How the phenomena manifests itself will vary as does everything in life. |
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"What concerns me about the article is the reference that the fluid comes from the urethra
In my experience it certainly has not. it has always come from within the vagina "
Just curious how you can tell? They're like half a centimetre apart and I assume there is something in the vagina. |
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I've always been under the impression it's mainly urine and for me that article just reinforces what I believe.
So, during sex I've never felt the desire to make anyone squirt. Watersports aren't really my thing.
However, having said that, if I happen to make someone squirt, because they've momentarily lost control.. I wouldn't want them feeling bad, or ashamed about it.. Unless they squirted in my face without prior warning, then I'd be pretty damn annoyed and probably end things there and then.
If it happened through intercourse or vigorous finger curling, I'd not be bothered in the slightest. Especially if it makes them feel great. Provided I'm not soaked by the stuff, I'm quite happy. |
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"I have been in rooms in clubs after ladies have "squirted",it smells of piss for a reason.
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I tasted and smelled mine. Nothing like urine. Anecdotal 'evidence'. |
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"I have been in rooms in clubs after ladies have "squirted",it smells of piss for a reason.
I tasted and smelled mine. Nothing like urine. Anecdotal 'evidence'. "
Glad we're not the only ones who have, totally unscientific but I concur |
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"I have been in rooms in clubs after ladies have "squirted",it smells of piss for a reason.
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I’m sure you could find a less derogatory way to phase this. There is no need to express it in this way. |
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"I have been in rooms in clubs after ladies have "squirted",it smells of piss for a reason.
I tasted and smelled mine. Nothing like urine. Anecdotal 'evidence'.
Glad we're not the only ones who have, totally unscientific but I concur"
There is significant anecdotal evidence that there can be significant differences in the smell, taste and colour from what is implied in that comment. |
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"I have been in rooms in clubs after ladies have "squirted",it smells of piss for a reason.
I’m sure you could find a less derogatory way to phase this. There is no need to express it in this way. "
*NOTED* Try to speak in Queens English when talking to you in future |
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"Over recent days I’ve been involved in conversations with forum users about myths and prejudices surrounding human sexuality. As a result I ran a thread yesterday to see if we could generate some themes. When I have the time and inclination I’ll do a spin off thread on one of the themes.
So the theme for this one is squirting. It has arisen innumerable times on forum threads. However it would be great if this thread was conducted in a spirit of respectful mutual inquiry. We can share experiences and understand each other’s perspectives without the need to shame anyone and be derogatory which sometimes happens.
To kick it off I’m going to share recent BBC article that references the latest research into the subject that I know of and sets about trying to understand this mysterious and somewhat controversial topic.
Have a read and let’s see how this goes...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/544c5686-e3bc-4ac2-b4ca-f91eccefe441"
My take is it’s just down to technic. An a women being fully relaxed. I think the numbers are out.
I thought I couldn’t squirt. It’s more than just an orgasm  |
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"I have been in rooms in clubs after ladies have "squirted",it smells of piss for a reason.
I’m sure you could find a less derogatory way to phase this. There is no need to express it in this way.
*NOTED* Try to speak in Queens English when talking to you in future "
I’m not so bothered about Queen’s English as what could be implied by the way the comment was phrased. |
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Being that I covered female genitalia etc in my medic exams I understand some of the article from the link.
I’m a squirter  but only two sexual partners have ever managed to achieve it with me. It’s definitely NOT an orgasm and it’s definitely NOT urine... it’s a much paler colour and odourless. Even if I have visited the ladies prior to play I’m still capable of a good gush and subsequent soaking!
It’s not something I actively encourage but I’m open to the suggestion during play if said partner is. Nope, it’s not for everyone but it’s not an unpleasant sensation |
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"Over recent days I’ve been involved in conversations with forum users about myths and prejudices surrounding human sexuality. As a result I ran a thread yesterday to see if we could generate some themes. When I have the time and inclination I’ll do a spin off thread on one of the themes.
So the theme for this one is squirting. It has arisen innumerable times on forum threads. However it would be great if this thread was conducted in a spirit of respectful mutual inquiry. We can share experiences and understand each other’s perspectives without the need to shame anyone and be derogatory which sometimes happens.
To kick it off I’m going to share recent BBC article that references the latest research into the subject that I know of and sets about trying to understand this mysterious and somewhat controversial topic.
Have a read and let’s see how this goes...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/544c5686-e3bc-4ac2-b4ca-f91eccefe441
My take is it’s just down to technic. An a women being fully relaxed. I think the numbers are out.
I thought I couldn’t squirt. It’s more than just an orgasm "
Not sure what you mean by the numbers are out? Could you say a bit more?
Also when you say it’s just down to technique, what do you mean? |
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"Being that I covered female genitalia etc in my medic exams I understand some of the article from the link.
I’m a squirter but only two sexual partners have ever managed to achieve it with me. It’s definitely NOT an orgasm and it’s definitely NOT urine... it’s a much paler colour and odourless. Even if I have visited the ladies prior to play I’m still capable of a good gush and subsequent soaking!
It’s not something I actively encourage but I’m open to the suggestion during play if said partner is. Nope, it’s not for everyone but it’s not an unpleasant sensation "
Thanks DC. Your experience and anecdotal evidence of the nature of the fluid corroborates what a number of others are saying too.
There is quite clearly a process that kicks in in some women’s bodies when they are aroused in a specific way. The full nature of that process is not yet clear, but it is qualitatively significantly different to normal urination. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation.
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
Indeed but even if they have no wish to be involved in it or for it to happen understanding will help them not to feel it is somehow a disgusting act. We can at least respect our differences and preferences in an informed way.
Respect works both ways. Someone may find it disgusting but keep that to themselves- respectful. Suggesting their dislike is 'wrong' and that they should change how they feel about it is surely disrespecting their preferences.
I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed."
People don't have to experience something to know they don't like it. Calling them prejudiced is unfair.
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Over the years I have been lucky enough to know & play with 4 ladies that were Squirters... in their case it was totally natural, didnt happen every time, did coincide with orgasm, left them drained & very sensative.
Personally i loved everything about it & consider mysefl lucky to have experiienced it |
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"Over recent days I’ve been involved in conversations with forum users about myths and prejudices surrounding human sexuality. As a result I ran a thread yesterday to see if we could generate some themes. When I have the time and inclination I’ll do a spin off thread on one of the themes.
So the theme for this one is squirting. It has arisen innumerable times on forum threads. However it would be great if this thread was conducted in a spirit of respectful mutual inquiry. We can share experiences and understand each other’s perspectives without the need to shame anyone and be derogatory which sometimes happens.
To kick it off I’m going to share recent BBC article that references the latest research into the subject that I know of and sets about trying to understand this mysterious and somewhat controversial topic.
Have a read and let’s see how this goes...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/544c5686-e3bc-4ac2-b4ca-f91eccefe441"
Really do not mind what it is, rarely smells or tastes bad and is a lot of fun. Trouble is when people think it is neccesary for good sex, heck I no longer cum all the time but still have tons of fun during sex. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation.
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
Indeed but even if they have no wish to be involved in it or for it to happen understanding will help them not to feel it is somehow a disgusting act. We can at least respect our differences and preferences in an informed way.
Respect works both ways. Someone may find it disgusting but keep that to themselves- respectful. Suggesting their dislike is 'wrong' and that they should change how they feel about it is surely disrespecting their preferences.
I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed.
People don't have to experience something to know they don't like it. Calling them prejudiced is unfair.
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I didn’t phrase that well. Prejudice is based on unfounded assumptions, distorted beliefs and ignorance and if it is used to judge others as disgusting or filthy then that is a prejudice. if it is based on thinking I don’t think I would like or enjoy it even though I haven’t experienced it then I agree that is just a preference and shouldn’t be seen as a prejudice. |
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"What concerns me about the article is the reference that the fluid comes from the urethra
In my experience it certainly has not. it has always come from within the vagina
At this time there’s no
scientific study that reveals a vaginal discharge consistent with squirting. Like you I have only experienced when a woman gets very wet through vaginal lubrication but neither of those in my experience would I have called squirting or gushing.
There is still much to be understood."
I know where the urethra is and I know where copious amounts of fluid way beyond lubrication has come from and it was the vagina not the urethra |
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"Thanks for the post. The article is quite long and I'm only part-way through it but it's certainly interesting.
Our take on squirting is that we don't see any appeal. It would actually put us off meeting somebody. It sounds very messy and we don't see an upside.
That's not to put down anybody who does. Some people like it, some don't. We're in the second camp and don't get why so many men make a big deal of wanting it, watching it or helping to cause it.
I think one of the issues is certainly how it has been glorified through the porn industry. However sex in general can be messy, I think one important part of this issue is those who do squirt sometimes are made to feel ashamed about it. "
I haven’t read the article yet but I’d like to add another POV to your last sentence - that *some* squirters see it as a badge of honour and “shame” those who either can’t or don’t wish to.We’ve all seen those posts of “everyone can squirt” etc etc etc..... |
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Personally, I’m aware of doing this a few times, completely unintentionally and although in the moment it was hot I can’t say it’s something I (and partners) want to be obsessed with making it happen. |
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"I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed.
People don't have to experience something to know they don't like it. Calling them prejudiced is unfair.
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Whilst I agree calling someone "prejudiced" for disliking something is unfair - I disagree that someone can *know* they don't like something if they've not tried it - they can *think* they don't like it but not *know*.
To take the anchovies example I used to *think* I didn't like them and would always ask for them to be removed from any dish containing them, until a waitress in a restaurant suggested I tried them as they enhanced the dish in question and guess what? I flipping love them now.
As with any preference it's not the preference that is the issue but how it is expressed and sadly squirting/gushing is one of those preferences that tends to be described in derogatory terms by those that don't like it, and usually based on unsubstantiated knowledge, such as the ones we have seen on this thread.
Personally I have experienced it with play partners and find it a highly pleasurable and erotic experience, but it is just another element of sex and sexuality that can be part of that experience and is *not* an end goal to be achieved or something that has to happen either with someone that does happen to squirt or with someone who never has done.
What the chemical consistency of it is doesn't really matter so long as all involved enjoy the experience and take pleasure from it.
My only beef with it is those that express their dislike of it in derogatory terms and those men who see it as a medal of honour to have "made" a woman do it. |
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Hi, I have not read the whole thread so apologies if I repeat said knowledge.
I have read some information that squirting also termed as female ejaculation is down to the individual. Yes there can be porn made scenarios of drinking lots of fluid or in some cases filling vaginal area with liquid to to get the squirting effect.
From a research paper I have read it says that female ejaculation/ squirting is where the female being pleasured has a good threshold of enjoying orgasms. If a someone can orgsam and not stop due the intensity of pleasure it is likely they will ejaculate/ squirt. According to this report females can often hold back and stop when the orgasm gets to much but by relaxing and carrying on ejaculation or squirting is most likely to occur.
It says that the feeling and sensation some females get of wanting to wee during sex puts them off and also the intensity of the orgasm is to much to continue before ejaculating.
On a Male perspective I never understood a dry orgasm. I had arranged a meet with someone and during sex I orgasmed but didnt cum and therefore continued to enjoy sex until I did cum. This has only happened the once but was such an amazing experience for me and my partner.
Regarding female ejaculation it is a sensation that is remembered by those who achieve it and apparently an orgasm that cannot be described.
Obviously there are many takes on this topic and only speaking to individuals directly would give a full account. And yes the mess side of things is not enjoyed by some.
Me myself would appreciate pleasing a lady so much that she ejaculates/squirts. Especially in an environment where it would the two of us enjoying each other. No gimmicks,porn or video making, just good sex between two people. |
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"What concerns me about the article is the reference that the fluid comes from the urethra
In my experience it certainly has not. it has always come from within the vagina
At this time there’s no
scientific study that reveals a vaginal discharge consistent with squirting. Like you I have only experienced when a woman gets very wet through vaginal lubrication but neither of those in my experience would I have called squirting or gushing.
There is still much to be understood.
I know where the urethra is and I know where copious amounts of fluid way beyond lubrication has come from and it was the vagina not the urethra "
Perhaps in your experience the female you were with had skenes glands that emptied into her vaginal opening as well as the bladder? |
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Having been with a few women that do this, my opinion is that I don’t really care where it comes from, just that the sex is going the right way if she feels secure enough to not hold back when it feels like she wants to squirt.
Do it or not, I really don’t mind. I only care if you want to and feel you can’t. |
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"What concerns me about the article is the reference that the fluid comes from the urethra
In my experience it certainly has not. it has always come from within the vagina
At this time there’s no
scientific study that reveals a vaginal discharge consistent with squirting. Like you I have only experienced when a woman gets very wet through vaginal lubrication but neither of those in my experience would I have called squirting or gushing.
There is still much to be understood.
I know where the urethra is and I know where copious amounts of fluid way beyond lubrication has come from and it was the vagina not the urethra "
I’m not suggesting that’s not what you experienced, I can’t corroborate it from mine. As I said there’s still much to leaden. |
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"Personally, I’m aware of doing this a few times, completely unintentionally and although in the moment it was hot I can’t say it’s something I (and partners) want to be obsessed with making it happen."
This is a consistent theme and is also consistent with challenging the ‘badge of honour’ thinking that is so detrimental. |
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"I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed.
People don't have to experience something to know they don't like it. Calling them prejudiced is unfair.
Whilst I agree calling someone "prejudiced" for disliking something is unfair - I disagree that someone can *know* they don't like something if they've not tried it - they can *think* they don't like it but not *know*.
To take the anchovies example I used to *think* I didn't like them and would always ask for them to be removed from any dish containing them, until a waitress in a restaurant suggested I tried them as they enhanced the dish in question and guess what? I flipping love them now.
As with any preference it's not the preference that is the issue but how it is expressed and sadly squirting/gushing is one of those preferences that tends to be described in derogatory terms by those that don't like it, and usually based on unsubstantiated knowledge, such as the ones we have seen on this thread.
Personally I have experienced it with play partners and find it a highly pleasurable and erotic experience, but it is just another element of sex and sexuality that can be part of that experience and is *not* an end goal to be achieved or something that has to happen either with someone that does happen to squirt or with someone who never has done.
What the chemical consistency of it is doesn't really matter so long as all involved enjoy the experience and take pleasure from it.
My only beef with it is those that express their dislike of it in derogatory terms and those men who see it as a medal of honour to have "made" a woman do it."
As usual you’ve conveyed some of my thoughts in a more coherent way and also base your view on having experienced it happening to a partner. I can’t because I haven’t. |
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"Hi, I have not read the whole thread so apologies if I repeat said knowledge.
I have read some information that squirting also termed as female ejaculation is down to the individual. Yes there can be porn made scenarios of drinking lots of fluid or in some cases filling vaginal area with liquid to to get the squirting effect.
From a research paper I have read it says that female ejaculation/ squirting is where the female being pleasured has a good threshold of enjoying orgasms. If a someone can orgsam and not stop due the intensity of pleasure it is likely they will ejaculate/ squirt. According to this report females can often hold back and stop when the orgasm gets to much but by relaxing and carrying on ejaculation or squirting is most likely to occur.
It says that the feeling and sensation some females get of wanting to wee during sex puts them off and also the intensity of the orgasm is to much to continue before ejaculating.
On a Male perspective I never understood a dry orgasm. I had arranged a meet with someone and during sex I orgasmed but didnt cum and therefore continued to enjoy sex until I did cum. This has only happened the once but was such an amazing experience for me and my partner.
Regarding female ejaculation it is a sensation that is remembered by those who achieve it and apparently an orgasm that cannot be described.
Obviously there are many takes on this topic and only speaking to individuals directly would give a full account. And yes the mess side of things is not enjoyed by some.
Me myself would appreciate pleasing a lady so much that she ejaculates/squirts. Especially in an environment where it would the two of us enjoying each other. No gimmicks,porn or video making, just good sex between two people."
Thank you for sharing that. I think the article refers to similar findings. I think the main concern is it would be easy on that basis to assume that all women ‘should be able to squirt’. I think it’s a dangerous assumption because our anatomies vary and can create the detrimental issues of women thinking there is something wrong with them if they don’t and men pursuing it like some holy grail and ‘badge of honour for making a woman squirt.’
That said I would also be perfectly happy should it ever happen during sex with a woman as long as she was enjoying the experience and finding it pleasurable too, just as I’d love to experience dry orgasms but haven’t
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"I can always tell the difference between my wife squirting in my mouth, and pissing in my mouth. "
I think that is a really important distinction and those that have experienced both know the difference |
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"Having been with a few women that do this, my opinion is that I don’t really care where it comes from, just that the sex is going the right way if she feels secure enough to not hold back when it feels like she wants to squirt.
Do it or not, I really don’t mind. I only care if you want to and feel you can’t."
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"What concerns me about the article is the reference that the fluid comes from the urethra
In my experience it certainly has not. it has always come from within the vagina
At this time there’s no
scientific study that reveals a vaginal discharge consistent with squirting. Like you I have only experienced when a woman gets very wet through vaginal lubrication but neither of those in my experience would I have called squirting or gushing.
There is still much to be understood.
I know where the urethra is and I know where copious amounts of fluid way beyond lubrication has come from and it was the vagina not the urethra
Perhaps in your experience the female you were with had skenes glands that emptied into her vaginal opening as well as the bladder? "
Good point. I don’t think we are close to understanding the function of the skene glands fully yet and how they manifest in different women. |
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"It is mostly urine, no one can produce buckets of cum
There's a big difference between squirting and urine incontinence caused by sexual activity
This difference is really important and I think the article as well as the 2014 French research did a good job of differentiation.
What if someone feels it's the same as watersports? They may feel the same whether it's urine, massive amounts of cum, or some magical orgasm fluid. If they don't want to be involved in watersports type activities it doesn't matter what the fluid is.
Indeed but even if they have no wish to be involved in it or for it to happen understanding will help them not to feel it is somehow a disgusting act. We can at least respect our differences and preferences in an informed way.
Respect works both ways. Someone may find it disgusting but keep that to themselves- respectful. Suggesting their dislike is 'wrong' and that they should change how they feel about it is surely disrespecting their preferences.
I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed.
People don't have to experience something to know they don't like it. Calling them prejudiced is unfair.
I didn’t phrase that well. Prejudice is based on unfounded assumptions, distorted beliefs and ignorance and if it is used to judge others as disgusting or filthy then that is a prejudice. if it is based on thinking I don’t think I would like or enjoy it even though I haven’t experienced it then I agree that is just a preference and shouldn’t be seen as a prejudice. "
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"I guess it depends whether their disgust is based on an experiential dislike or a prejudicial dislike based on inaccurate assumptions.
I find anchovies disgusting because I really dislike the taste. However I know others love them and would never try to discourage them from enjoying them. That’s when the line for me is crossed.
People don't have to experience something to know they don't like it. Calling them prejudiced is unfair.
Whilst I agree calling someone "prejudiced" for disliking something is unfair - I disagree that someone can *know* they don't like something if they've not tried it - they can *think* they don't like it but not *know*.
To take the anchovies example I used to *think* I didn't like them and would always ask for them to be removed from any dish containing them, until a waitress in a restaurant suggested I tried them as they enhanced the dish in question and guess what? I flipping love them now.
As with any preference it's not the preference that is the issue but how it is expressed and sadly squirting/gushing is one of those preferences that tends to be described in derogatory terms by those that don't like it, and usually based on unsubstantiated knowledge, such as the ones we have seen on this thread.
Personally I have experienced it with play partners and find it a highly pleasurable and erotic experience, but it is just another element of sex and sexuality that can be part of that experience and is *not* an end goal to be achieved or something that has to happen either with someone that does happen to squirt or with someone who never has done.
What the chemical consistency of it is doesn't really matter so long as all involved enjoy the experience and take pleasure from it.
My only beef with it is those that express their dislike of it in derogatory terms and those men who see it as a medal of honour to have "made" a woman do it."
"You never know till you've tried it..." said Bear Grylls holding something we're probably not allowed to discuss. |
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Think the difference in that analogy is that women can't control whether they can or cannot squirt. Therefore, I believe there should be less emphasis on the correct way a woman should orgasm. And women should be able to enjoy their orgasm with without being told they should or shouldn't squirt. |
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