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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If it's all done light-heartedly then I don't see a problem with a young girl wanting her competition to fall into a deep black hole a die a lingering death if it increases her chances of winning, otherwise, I think it's despicable to parade one's children around in a mini-sexualised version of what their mothers wished they could have been in their younger days.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So so wrong!!! They are kids FFS stop dressing them up in make up and making them look older than they are... freaky and very very wrong!!! Kids grow up fast enough as it is... let them be kids and play dress up for parties and fun not for competition. |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"...For kids.
Right or wrong?"
Wrong....
I don't agree with it at all.
Going a bit off topic but the other week our daughter went to a school disco. When I went to collect her, I was shocked at what some of the girls were wearing. Some were caked in fake tan and make up, fake nails, fishnets and skirts that looked like belts.
They are 10 - 11 years old for gods sake.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Brings to mind the extremely funny and disturbing film "Little Miss Sunshine""
That was a great film,better than I expected it to be 
As for childrens beauty pageants,I think they're awful,they make me cringe,the children look ridiculous and the parents even more so |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Brings to mind the extremely funny and disturbing film "Little Miss Sunshine"
That was a great film,better than I expected it to be
As for childrens beauty pageants,I think they're awful,they make me cringe,the children look ridiculous and the parents even more so"
My fave beauty pageant film is 'Drop Dead Gorgeous' : just love the black humour in that film. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well as a competitor and Mini Queen winner of 1974 I do have a little insight.
I was entered into beauty competitions by my mother since about the age of 4. I wasn't sexualised, never had make up, it was all rather Shirley Temple esq. I was petite and with naturally curly blonde locks, dressed in pink satin dresses, ankle socks and huge bows in my hair, I guess I was kinda cute.
My mum was proud, after wanting and trying for a little girl for 20 years, there was no way I was going to be a tomboy. She got pleasure out of dressing me up and showing me off.
I used to be frightened on the stage, standing wanting to go on, to cheers and applause from strangers, without my mum to hold my hand, I didn't like it at all. But it made my mum happy. The only way I could do it was if she stood right at front of the stage so I could see her straight away as I came out.
I don't think I'd do it to a child of mine, though in the 70s it was quite popular, what with the likes of Miss World and lots of other beauty competitions being shown on prime time TV. It does seem different to todays beauty and dancing competitions where children are made up and sprayed with fake tans etc. But its definitely more about the parents than the child
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I think part of the issue could be how outsiders and the media perceive them, I mean to be honest our little swinging community appears to get nothing but jokes or horror stories written about, and unless you are part of that community then you really don't know or understand the whole picture???  |
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Fake tans, false eyelashes, make up and dressed as mini me's, wrong on every level. Children grow up to fast as it is, in this day and age. Children should be allowed to be children and not made in to minatures of what the mothers wanted to be.
They should be an age limit set for this things wether it be 14 or 16, but kids as young as 4/5 going for spray tans and dressed inapproprialty is so wrong.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Children are encouraged to look older etc, clothing is similar to adults, just mini versions. Some of the slogans on tshirts are open to innuendo and the underwear, even for little kids, is verging on similar styling to adults.
Tiny vest tops intended to look like bras for 3 year olds, it must be very difficult to shop for appropriate clothing at times for girls.
Nowadays lots of little girls are bought play make up from quite an early age, so children are certainly looking like mini adults from quite a young age. I once saw a mother with her daughter, both wearing similar outfits, that looked perverse |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"watch that and you tell me 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzxfXE2seMM
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OMG that poor kid, it often makes me wonder is it the kids that want to do them or is it more for the parents. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"watch that and you tell me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzxfXE2seMM
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Now that made me feel like punching both the mother and the one waxing into next week! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There used to be a program on itv years ago called teeny pops, where they dressed little kids up as different pop singers and the kids mimed to the songs. It was taken off air because they were doing the same sort of things to the kids involved. i think its scandalous that parents subject there kids to this sort of thing |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What I want to know is, who keeps the prize money and cars and holidays that are up for grabs?
I find wrong on many levels.
Personally, I think that any cash etc should be put into a college/trust fund for the kids and make the parents pay for everything out of their own pockets to put a stop to the greedy fuckers!.
Take a look at the child stars that are messed or worse because their parents wanted the lifestyle they forced on the kids.
Instead of leeching, over powering and bullying their kids, the parents should be nurturing, loving and raising their kids to be someone to be looked up to and lead by example. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What I want to know is, who keeps the prize money and cars and holidays that are up for grabs?
I find wrong on many levels.
Personally, I think that any cash etc should be put into a college/trust fund for the kids and make the parents pay for everything out of their own pockets to put a stop to the greedy fuckers!.
Take a look at the child stars that are messed or worse because their parents wanted the lifestyle they forced on the kids.
Instead of leeching, over powering and bullying their kids, the parents should be nurturing, loving and raising their kids to be someone to be looked up to and lead by example. "
I've missed a couple of words out 
I meant, 'I find it wrong on many levels' and 'look at the child stars that are messed up...'
Fat fingers and blackberry keypads don't mix |
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dont mind 'cute baby' comps and that kinda shizzle, but the whole doing your kids up to look like a slut thing does nothing for me.
suppose i cant complain about the thing as an entity, but rather the parents that take it so so seriously and push thier kids, mind, i dont like seeing this in any walk of life, except academically. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wouldnt go as far as to say it was child abuse but its distasteful in my opinion. "
pinned a scared child down and hurting her isnt abuse?
in my opinion and this is only an opinion all because they are doing it for a reason does not make the childs pain any less, to pin a child down screaming and hurting her is abuse |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I wouldnt go as far as to say it was child abuse but its distasteful in my opinion.
pinned a scared child down and hurting her isnt abuse?
in my opinion and this is only an opinion all because they are doing it for a reason does not make the childs pain any less, to pin a child down screaming and hurting her is abuse"
pinning a child down is yes..beauty pageants are not...so where n when did this happen, i havent read the whole thread btw |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"all seems very shallow to me, is it right to be placing so much importance on looks at such a young age?
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it is shallow, i have 3 beautiful daughters and i dont need a pannel of jusges to reasure me of that  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wouldnt go as far as to say it was child abuse but its distasteful in my opinion.
pinned a scared child down and hurting her isnt abuse?
in my opinion and this is only an opinion all because they are doing it for a reason does not make the childs pain any less, to pin a child down screaming and hurting her is abusepinning a child down is yes..beauty pageants are not...so where n when did this happen, i havent read the whole thread btw"
ahh we probably talking on cross purposes then lol
i was talking about the link i posted of the child getting her eye brows waxed
thats what i was refuring to borderline abuse |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wouldnt go as far as to say it was child abuse but its distasteful in my opinion.
pinned a scared child down and hurting her isnt abuse?
in my opinion and this is only an opinion all because they are doing it for a reason does not make the childs pain any less, to pin a child down screaming and hurting her is abusepinning a child down is yes..beauty pageants are not...so where n when did this happen, i havent read the whole thread btw"
The child in question was getting her eyebrows waxed and was afraid, and rightly so, she had had a bad experience previously with another waxer where the wax was too hot and the skin around her eyes was quote "ripped off" |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I wouldnt go as far as to say it was child abuse but its distasteful in my opinion.
pinned a scared child down and hurting her isnt abuse?
in my opinion and this is only an opinion all because they are doing it for a reason does not make the childs pain any less, to pin a child down screaming and hurting her is abusepinning a child down is yes..beauty pageants are not...so where n when did this happen, i havent read the whole thread btw
ahh we probably talking on cross purposes then lol
i was talking about the link i posted of the child getting her eye brows waxed
thats what i was refuring to borderline abuse"
See i have a problem with the word borderline..but then again im a black OR white type of person. I havent watched the link.
Thing is thousands of these pageants take place all over the place year in year out...dressing a kid up like a dolly isnt abuse in my opinion, its distasteful and i think it can lead to the child being noticed by more sinister factors. Other stuff like forcing a kid to have waxes done etc....isnt a good thing to do as its unnecessary |
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