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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-55146068
I hope it's not by a river?"
No, its on the green opposite the council premises.
Initial concern was with the £100k being spent on its installation, but the council have said that no public money will be spent on it.
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-55146068
I hope it's not by a river?
No, its on the green opposite the council premises.
Initial concern was with the £100k being spent on its installation, but the council have said that no public money will be spent on it.
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Will it be guarded? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"What’s the issue with the statue? "
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up. |
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up. "
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up. "
Could bring tourism, some to laud it some to egg it..
Very much a marmite character as Blair is.. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up.
Could bring tourism, some to laud it some to egg it..
Very much a marmite character as Blair is.."
Indeed, although I believe that she only came back to her home town once, after becoming PM.
I used to work with a bloke, that reckoned he gave her a good fingering in a bus shelter, after a Saturday night out. Was so ironic, as he was the union convener at the factory, and a staunch Labour man. Fortunately, both are now dead, so we will never know the truth on that one! |
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up.
Could bring tourism, some to laud it some to egg it..
Very much a marmite character as Blair is..
Indeed, although I believe that she only came back to her home town once, after becoming PM.
I used to work with a bloke, that reckoned he gave her a good fingering in a bus shelter, after a Saturday night out. Was so ironic, as he was the union convener at the factory, and a staunch Labour man. Fortunately, both are now dead, so we will never know the truth on that one! "
Na..
Not buying it..
Surely she was the one doing the fingering?  |
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up.
Could bring tourism, some to laud it some to egg it..
Very much a marmite character as Blair is.."
They would make a fortune
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They should put it up in the mineing villages in the north see how long it lasts lol
The way such areas voted foxy I think they might love it..  "
That's what I was thinking.
They should really see how long it would last in the Valleys in South Wales. |
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up.
Could bring tourism, some to laud it some to egg it..
Very much a marmite character as Blair is..
Indeed, although I believe that she only came back to her home town once, after becoming PM.
I used to work with a bloke, that reckoned he gave her a good fingering in a bus shelter, after a Saturday night out. Was so ironic, as he was the union convener at the factory, and a staunch Labour man. Fortunately, both are now dead, so we will never know the truth on that one! "
Poor fella |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
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What street parties? |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties? "
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-55146068
I hope it's not by a river?"
I am no fan of Thatcher but the statue is really accurate, the person who made it must be very talented . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"perhaps if they had put it up before the general election it would have reminded people that tory governments result in mass unemployment & economic chaos for ordinary people "
Mate I don't know about you but I grew up in the economic chaos of a Labour government where I had to go to school in jumble sale clothes, where we went hungry because my dad was, against his will and with no grievance, forced to keep going on strike by the idiocy of the engineering Union and where on leaving school I struggled to get a decent job because of high unemployment. Labour? Don't make me laugh |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way?"
I was in Stoke then and no we did not. What kind of people celebrate a death? |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way?
I was in Stoke then and no we did not. What kind of people celebrate a death? "
Ahh memories. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way?
I was in Stoke then and no we did not. What kind of people celebrate a death?
Ahh memories."
Sick mate |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way?
I was in Stoke then and no we did not. What kind of people celebrate a death?
Ahh memories.
Sick mate "
Scum celebrate a death. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way?
I was in Stoke then and no we did not. What kind of people celebrate a death?
Ahh memories.
Sick mate
Scum celebrate a death. "
Any death? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Anyway back on topic I'm sure the statue will prove to be very popular "
Tourists still come to Grantham to see the Margret Thatcher blue plaque. Its situated adjacent to one of the busiest road junctions in Grantham.
Her statue will be one of three near to the council offices. She joins other notable Granthamians Sir Isaac Newton and Fred Tollemache, who was MP from 1826 until 1874.
The other notable person from Grantham, that needs a statue, is Nicholas Parsons. I'm sure its only a matter of time! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just goes to show how sad and full of hate some are when they celebrate the death of a british prime minister. It says a lot about them. Still karma brings its own reward"
What does it say? I didn’t ‘celebrate’ her death but many did, she was despised by a lot of people |
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"Just goes to show how sad and full of hate some are when they celebrate the death of a british prime minister. It says a lot about them. Still karma brings its own reward
What does it say? I didn’t ‘celebrate’ her death but many did, she was despised by a lot of people "
In all seriousness it was quite deplorable behaviour
Liverpool played reading that weekend and apparently it was the 1st time the away was d*unk on champagne.
Just letting themselves down
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"Just goes to show how sad and full of hate some are when they celebrate the death of a british prime minister. It says a lot about them. Still karma brings its own reward"
Agreed
They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way?"
You are sick in the head. |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head."
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations."
Yeah right why even mention it then,sick. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
Not here |
"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head."
Don’t waste your breath, he’s only proving what we know anyway. |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations.Yeah right why even mention it then,sick."
Because it happened?
Do you get to decide what we talk about now?
I never once said I attended any parties. |
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"Just goes to show how sad and full of hate some are when they celebrate the death of a british prime minister. It says a lot about them. Still karma brings its own reward
What does it say? I didn’t ‘celebrate’ her death but many did, she was despised by a lot of people "
and still is |
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"Just goes to show how sad and full of hate some are when they celebrate the death of a british prime minister. It says a lot about them. Still karma brings its own reward
What does it say? I didn’t ‘celebrate’ her death but many did, she was despised by a lot of people and still is "
Apparently we arent allowed to discuss it. |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations."
I would of if I’d of known of any lol |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. I would of if I’d of known of any lol"
Dont be saying that on here! |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. I would of if I’d of known of any lol
Dont be saying that on here!"
lionel after some of the shite that’s been said about me on here because I voted leave I’ll say what I want fuck em lol she’s hated more up here than hitler lol |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. I would of if I’d of known of any lol
Dont be saying that on here!lionel after some of the shite that’s been said about me on here because I voted leave I’ll say what I want fuck em lol she’s hated more up here than hitler lol"
Well dont say you weren't warned
I only mentioned the street parties,fireworks and piss ups and got called all sorts. |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. I would of if I’d of known of any lol
Dont be saying that on here!lionel after some of the shite that’s been said about me on here because I voted leave I’ll say what I want fuck em lol she’s hated more up here than hitler lol
Well dont say you weren't warned
I only mentioned the street parties,fireworks and piss ups and got called all sorts."
what do they want us to do up here wear black ffs |
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over a year ago
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. I would of if I’d of known of any lol
Dont be saying that on here!lionel after some of the shite that’s been said about me on here because I voted leave I’ll say what I want fuck em lol she’s hated more up here than hitler lol"
Why? |
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"Nevermind a statue, for keeping Foot and Kinnock out of number 10 she deserves a medal
Ahh those street parties
What a happy day that was
What street parties?
When she popped all her clogs?
Did you not have many round your way? You are sick in the head.
I was simply posing a question thats all?
I certainly took part in no such celebrations. I would of if I’d of known of any lol
Dont be saying that on here!lionel after some of the shite that’s been said about me on here because I voted leave I’ll say what I want fuck em lol she’s hated more up here than hitler lol
Well dont say you weren't warned
I only mentioned the street parties,fireworks and piss ups and got called all sorts.what do they want us to do up here wear black ffs "
Just be careful
My friend told me she had these weird little men who used to follow her around the forums,commentating on her every post.
I think in the end she just ignored them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill. "
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’ |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’ "
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
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You knew what you were doing dangling it out there waiting for a bite. |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’ "
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds? |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
You knew what you were doing dangling it out there waiting for a bite. "
Simply pointing out something which happened.
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?"
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind "
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled."
I'm calm son, what's the matter, are you afraid to speak your mind? |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
You knew what you were doing dangling it out there waiting for a bite.
Simply pointing out something which happened.
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With your cheeky comments about memories and proximity to rivers. You were on a wind up you don’t fool me you cheeky chappy. |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled.
I'm calm son, what's the matter, are you afraid to speak your mind? "
You sure you dont need a lie down..a nice cup of tea? |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
You knew what you were doing dangling it out there waiting for a bite.
Simply pointing out something which happened.
With your cheeky comments about memories and proximity to rivers. You were on a wind up you don’t fool me you cheeky chappy. "
No I was merely ensuring the sanctity of the statue.. we dont want some disgruntled miscreants toppling it into a river. |
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over a year ago
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled.
I'm calm son, what's the matter, are you afraid to speak your mind?
You sure you dont need a lie down..a nice cup of tea?"
I am lying down with a cup of tea. Are you going to be big enough to speak your mind? |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled.
I'm calm son, what's the matter, are you afraid to speak your mind?
You sure you dont need a lie down..a nice cup of tea?
I am lying down with a cup of tea. Are you going to be big enough to speak your mind? "
Right..sorry what did you ask again?
You mentioned jews?
I never realized Maggie was Jewish?
Are you not a fan? |
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over a year ago
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled.
I'm calm son, what's the matter, are you afraid to speak your mind?
You sure you dont need a lie down..a nice cup of tea?
I am lying down with a cup of tea. Are you going to be big enough to speak your mind?
Right..sorry what did you ask again?
You mentioned jews?
I never realized Maggie was Jewish?
Are you not a fan?"
Thought not |
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"Lionel was trolling you guys chill.
He is stating facts, all of these ‘celebrations ‘ happened, she was despised in many parts of the country. I am sure there will be similar celebrations’ when Blair dies, I think some people are being ‘woke’ and acting like ‘snowflakes’
Excellent point
Normally they are such defenders of people speaking their minds?
Speak your mind then. Tell us what you think of Thatcher. Did you want her dead like one of your heroes McDonnell? Do you hate Jews? Speak your mind
Calm down dear boy.
You are getting rattled.
I'm calm son, what's the matter, are you afraid to speak your mind?
You sure you dont need a lie down..a nice cup of tea?
I am lying down with a cup of tea. Are you going to be big enough to speak your mind?
Right..sorry what did you ask again?
You mentioned jews?
I never realized Maggie was Jewish?
Are you not a fan?
Thought not "
You didnt answer
Was she Jewish?
I'm just a little confused as to why her religion is important? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyway..apparently 1000 people have vowed to attend an egg throwing competition and she will be put on a plinth to avoid it being vandalised.
Disgraceful."
Really? what a waste of eggs |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"She was a fcking witch who done her best to destroy scotland and many north of England communities hope she rots in hell"
Yes she really did her best to destroy Sunderland by getting nissan to build there |
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By *9alMan
over a year ago
Bridgend |
"She was a fcking witch who done her best to destroy scotland and many north of England communities hope she rots in hell"
perhaps a local gun club could use the statue for target practice |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"She was a fcking witch who done her best to destroy scotland and many north of England communities hope she rots in hell
perhaps a local gun club could use the statue for target practice "
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"She was a fcking witch who done her best to destroy scotland and many north of England communities hope she rots in hell
Yes she really did her best to destroy Sunderland by getting nissan to build there"
you really don’t know how she’s thought of in the northeast lol |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"She was a fcking witch who done her best to destroy scotland and many north of England communities hope she rots in hell
Yes she really did her best to destroy Sunderland by getting nissan to build there you really don’t know how she’s thought of in the northeast lol"
How many thousand jobs does the Nissan plant support? How many in any part of the UK would go down a pit today ? Did she get everything right no of course not, I wonder how jobs the Blair years brought to the poorer areas of the UK, he was more interested in the celeb parties in number 10. Should more money be poured into the north instead of the south east yes 100 percent |
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over a year ago
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up. "
Is it only for Townies or
Can anybody travel to take part ? |
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"S'funny I also dont recall the worst riots in living memory and massive structural unemployment under blair."
I will speak my mind .......Blair was a cunt .........Thatcher was a cunt .........all modern day politicians are cunts , that lie and never give a straight answer . |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
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Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up.
Is it only for Townies or
Can anybody travel to take part ?"
Feel free to come and visit.
It'll feel like its another planet up here to those from "darn sarf".Decent beer at £2.80 a pint, proper fish and chips and big houses at less than £200k. |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike "
wtf did you not see the police charging at them on horse back beating them with battons what did you want the miners to do roll over let Maggie destroy there lives ffs |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
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She was a visionary for green energy way before greta was even a twinkle in her mums eye,i cant believe you cant see that. |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike "
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What’s the issue with the statue?
Its costing £100k to put up. As soon as the council said that they would pay for it, then the backlash started. Now being funded by donations apparently.
The usual suspects in the town have threatened a mass "egg pelting" once its up.
Is it only for Townies or
Can anybody travel to take part ?
Feel free to come and visit.
It'll feel like its another planet up here to those from "darn sarf".Decent beer at £2.80 a pint, proper fish and chips and big houses at less than £200k. "
I was born further North than where you live fella,
Proper Fish & Chips , do you really believe that guff
Decent beer ?
I come from the Land of Guiness Smithwicks & Murphys
Please dont mention the p155-water you drink here &
Call it decent .
200k houses ?
I built a castle back home for half of that !!
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question. "
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As statues go it has amazing movement and flow - the robes in particular have been beautifully cast.
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I have to agree, it’s a beautiful work of art, shame he missed of the horns |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working"
So you would be quite happy for others to suffer whilst you carried on working?
If the strike was over pay..and an award was agreed I'm also presuming you wouldnt accept it?
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working"
Do you have to be over 15 to understand the news? |
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over a year ago
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
Do you have to be over 15 to understand the news?"
Only if you are a dyed in the woll Blue nose !!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As statues go it has amazing movement and flow - the robes in particular have been beautifully cast.
I have to agree, it’s a beautiful work of art, shame he missed of the horns "
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working"
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?"
Now here's where an old man schools you....
.... there was no vote for strike action by the NUM. Thats why the Nottinghamshire miners kept working, and there was little support from other trades unions.
This was a personnal crusade by Arthur Scargill, backed by his Yorkshire cohorts, against Margret Thatcher and her Goverment.
In fact, the strike was eventually ruled illegal in the High Court. |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?
Now here's where an old man schools you....
.... there was no vote for strike action by the NUM. Thats why the Nottinghamshire miners kept working, and there was little support from other trades unions.
This was a personnal crusade by Arthur Scargill, backed by his Yorkshire cohorts, against Margret Thatcher and her Goverment.
In fact, the strike was eventually ruled illegal in the High Court. "
You realise I wasnt specifically talking about that strike?
And a particular 1 sided view of the strike.
What exactly was the point of this "crusade '
I'd say if anything was in a crusade it was thatcher |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?"
Oh dear, so you didnt understand the news at 15 then. |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?
Oh dear, so you didnt understand the news at 15 then. "
Oh dear
You seem to have missed the point I was specifically making about orgreave
I'm presuming you are hurt going to ignore my questions? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?
Oh dear, so you didnt understand the news at 15 then.
Oh dear
You seem to have missed the point I was specifically making about orgreave
I'm presuming you are hurt going to ignore my questions?"
Nice swerve but the discussion was about the miners strike you claimed they voted for it, they didn't, there was violence on both sides, some from both sides would have used it as an excuse to overstep the mark. |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?
Oh dear, so you didnt understand the news at 15 then.
Oh dear
You seem to have missed the point I was specifically making about orgreave
I'm presuming you are hurt going to ignore my questions?
Nice swerve but the discussion was about the miners strike you claimed they voted for it, they didn't, there was violence on both sides, some from both sides would have used it as an excuse to overstep the mark. "
Just point out the bit where I said they voted for it please?
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?"
Wasnt you inferring there was a vote in this post then ? if not what was the point of it? |
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"The idea that she closed the mining industry because she was worried about the welfare of miners is beyond parody.
I must have imagined her thugs beating the shit out of miners in orgreave.
Please post where I said she closed the mines for health reasons. I must have imagined miners beating police up, what are your views of those miners who still worked during the strike
You really should do your research.
I'm far too polite too answer your last question.
Says the man who was 15 at the time.
Glad to see your usual tolerance of those who disagree with your point of view and decided to exercise their lawful right to carry on working
If there is a vote for strike action.. and the vote passes..but people ignore it and go to work anyway
Do you feel the same about Brexit?
Can remainers ignore it cos we dont like the way the vote went?Wasnt you inferring there was a vote in this post then ? if not what was the point of it?"
I was replying to a general post about working through a strike.
When you go on strike now,the union has to organise a ballot.
With the turnout having to be around 80%(I think)
Rules that domt apply to things like a general election. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions. |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions. "
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
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over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
"
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union. |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union. "
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?"
Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation? |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation? "
You have lost me
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
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Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others. |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others."
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others.
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist?"
No thank god, i didnt think you had, you might understand how the unions wrecked the uk shipyards if you did. |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others.
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist?No thank god, i didnt think you had, you might understand how the unions wrecked the uk shipyards if you did."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others.
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist?No thank god, i didnt think you had, you might understand how the unions wrecked the uk shipyards if you did.
You didnt answer my question about sick pay etc"
sick pay was introduced under the social security and benefits act 1983 and holiday pay was introduced in 1938 with the pay act by the governments at the time. |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others.
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist?No thank god, i didnt think you had, you might understand how the unions wrecked the uk shipyards if you did.
You didnt answer my question about sick pay etc sick pay was introduced under the social security and benefits act 1983 and holiday pay was introduced in 1938 with the pay act by the governments at the time."
I take it you are swerving my question?
You are just getting bizarre now.
Who else is going to introduce legislation
Did they do that out of the goodness of their heart?
People began working in factories in the 18th century.
So it took them a mere 2 centuries too decide to give, some people,sick and holiday pay? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others.
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist?No thank god, i didnt think you had, you might understand how the unions wrecked the uk shipyards if you did.
You didnt answer my question about sick pay etc sick pay was introduced under the social security and benefits act 1983 and holiday pay was introduced in 1938 with the pay act by the governments at the time.
I take it you are swerving my question?
You are just getting bizarre now.
Who else is going to introduce legislation
Did they do that out of the goodness of their heart?
People began working in factories in the 18th century.
So it took them a mere 2 centuries too decide to give, some people,sick and holiday pay?"
Who was it that introduced ssp in 1983 could it have been Mrs thacher? . |
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"If you think all the strikes in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s were for workers rights you are dreaming mate the likes of scargill,red robbo of layland,jack dash etc were all russian pawns to disrupt the country in the cold war.There was no internet so no cyber attacks so they had communist sympathizer's in the trade unions.
So those liverpool dockworkers who used to have to queue up for work every day like cattle..had no actual grievance.
Gotcha
Why dont you give up all your holiday pay,sick pay etc if you are so anti union?
I dont get any holiday pay ,sick pay etc. When i started working offshore there was 8 men to a cabin about 15 men to a shower we worked 18 hours a day as there was nothiung else to do no tv no phones fuck all.Now its 2 man cabins on suit shower,tv ,phones gyms, cinema,etc all achieved without one strike or a union.
So no one should have holiday etc because you dont?Did you actually ever work in a closed shop with demarcation?
You have lost me
Its not a hard question have you ever worked in a closed shop? its a factory,shipyard etc where you cant work unless you are a union member and demarcation is where you can only do one job even though you are capable of doing others.
Nope
But I've always been in a union
Do they still exist?No thank god, i didnt think you had, you might understand how the unions wrecked the uk shipyards if you did.
You didnt answer my question about sick pay etc sick pay was introduced under the social security and benefits act 1983 and holiday pay was introduced in 1938 with the pay act by the governments at the time.
I take it you are swerving my question?
You are just getting bizarre now.
Who else is going to introduce legislation
Did they do that out of the goodness of their heart?
People began working in factories in the 18th century.
So it took them a mere 2 centuries too decide to give, some people,sick and holiday pay?Who was it that introduced ssp in 1983 could it have been Mrs thacher? ."
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Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in.. |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in.."
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in.."
yeah and why couldnt they compete? because you could have a welder and mate a pipefitter and mate sitting around for hours sometimes days waiting for a burner to cut a hole in a bulkhead which takes 5 minutes which any of the 4 could have done.No wonder they couldnt compete. |
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over a year ago
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"sorry i forgot to mention it was a tory government under Chamberlain that introduced holiday pay too.
You realise unions cant bring in legislation dont you?"
yep it was you who was going on about ssp and holiday pay not me. |
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"sorry i forgot to mention it was a tory government under Chamberlain that introduced holiday pay too.
You realise unions cant bring in legislation dont you?yep it was you who was going on about ssp and holiday pay not me."
Spectactually missing the point. |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not."
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well.. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well.."
Ive worked in an Italian shipyard too and they seem to work very well and are unionised.Ive nothing against unions today but working in the 70,s 80,s when you were told you couldnt unless you were in the union then part of you fees went to a political party you didnt support it was like being run by the mafia no freedom of choice.The pointless strikes that cost you more money than you could possible make up most of the time they were doing it to disrupt not for the workers anyway. |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well.."
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week."
Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages . |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..Ive worked in an Italian shipyard too and they seem to work very well and are unionised.Ive nothing against unions today but working in the 70,s 80,s when you were told you couldnt unless you were in the union then part of you fees went to a political party you didnt support it was like being run by the mafia no freedom of choice.The pointless strikes that cost you more money than you could possible make up most of the time they were doing it to disrupt not for the workers anyway."
I was very anti union as a younger man just starting out etc because if some of the silliness that happened but in my latter career recognised the importance of the union, we had some senior managers who were union but then some who were anti..
Got much more accomplished with the former who didn't have the suspicious nature that we were in representing the members also helping the service deliver..
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages ."
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages .
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man?"
yes i do i know labour brought it in and that the argument against that if the minimum wage is law that people will just pay the minimum which to be fair is happening in most services now. Im suggesting the tories are for all and not the bosses from the 1800,s that you think they are. |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages .
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man? yes i do i know labour brought it in and that the argument against that if the minimum wage is law that people will just pay the minimum which to be fair is happening in most services now. Im suggesting the tories are for all and not the bosses from the 1800,s that you think they are. "
The Tories are the party of the rich and powerful..thats fair enough but at least be honest about it.
Unions stand for everything which Tories despise, which is why we have some of the most restrictive union legislation in Europe. |
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over a year ago
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages .
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man? yes i do i know labour brought it in and that the argument against that if the minimum wage is law that people will just pay the minimum which to be fair is happening in most services now. Im suggesting the tories are for all and not the bosses from the 1800,s that you think they are.
The Tories are the party of the rich and powerful..thats fair enough but at least be honest about it.
Unions stand for everything which Tories despise, which is why we have some of the most restrictive union legislation in Europe."
Your a dinosaur mate living in the past but keep that red flag flying. have to go things to do. |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages .
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man? yes i do i know labour brought it in and that the argument against that if the minimum wage is law that people will just pay the minimum which to be fair is happening in most services now. Im suggesting the tories are for all and not the bosses from the 1800,s that you think they are.
The Tories are the party of the rich and powerful..thats fair enough but at least be honest about it.
Unions stand for everything which Tories despise, which is why we have some of the most restrictive union legislation in Europe.Your a dinosaur mate living in the past but keep that red flag flying. have to go things to do. "
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages .
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man?"
The tories are certainly not the party of the working man .........but neither are labour , otherwise they wouldn’t of lost most of the safe northern seats in the election. |
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"Closed shop was made illegal in 1990..
And the ship industry like others went their way as they simply could not compete with foreign factories etc where workers were paid much less and conditions were not as safe..
As an ex trades union official I will never accept that the right to decent pay and conditions is some sort of a luxury to have to doff ones cap to the bosses lacky for..
A person goes to work to earn, not to be killed due to working in an unsafe environment etc..
And if decent and safe conditions are ok for a person in an office wearing a white shirt then the same applies to the appropriate extent for the person doing the work that brings the money in..
I'd like to say I find it bizarre that ordainary people would be be opposed to an organisation that actually fights for their rights,but I'm genuinly not.
Some genuinely like being subservient..
I know that not all unions have been perfect and at times have not served the best interests of their members well but it's easy to just highlight those instances than look at the bigger picture and see that by and large we work in places and good employers work with unions rather than seeing it as a battle ..
The relationship in Germany is one I would think we could aspire to and it works well..
I'd like to see what working conditions we have,if unions did not exist.
We would still be doing 18 hr days, 6 days a week. Do you really believe that because i dont. Wouldnt your messiah have lobbied for better pay and conditions in the house?.Didnt the tories raise the minimum wage again in april with no union on strike for it? Things have moved on from the greed in the 1800,s mate companies realize that better pay ,working conditions makes for better production and that a happy workforce is a productive one.You need to come out of the dark ages .
You realise there isnt a union for people on minimum wage?
You also realise the Tories argued against a minimum wage and was only brought in under a labour gmnt?
Are you seriously suggesting the tories are the party of the working man?
The tories are certainly not the party of the working man .........but neither are labour , otherwise they wouldn’t of lost most of the safe northern seats in the election. "
be interesting to see how they try and get those voters back |
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" be interesting to see how they try and get those voters back "
Covid & how the story party have dealt with it certainly helps.
People wont forget this in a hurry !
To many dead relatives. |
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" be interesting to see how they try and get those voters back
Covid & how the story party have dealt with it certainly helps.
People wont forget this in a hurry !
To many dead relatives."
Ye as everyone knows, it was the Tories who created covid.
If they've got 10 each that's only 600,000 but hey, let's make political capital out of a tragedy eh.
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" be interesting to see how they try and get those voters back
Covid & how the story party have dealt with it certainly helps.
People wont forget this in a hurry !
To many dead relatives."
I’m sorry they won’t be blamed for COVID yes they be blamed for dealing with it in a pathetic way but there’s a long way to go for the GE it’s upto labour to show the north there plans it will all come down to money as always |
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