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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time." If you want to sign free trade deals with other countries Then Yes you do | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time." id say not at this moment no | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no " So how do you expect buisness to be done ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So how do you expect buisness to be done ? " do we only do business with poor country’s ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So how do you expect buisness to be done ? do we only do business with poor country’s ?" Shall we only do business with countries richer than us? Who are going to buy all our weapons? | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked." No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well . | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked. No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well ." yes that’s right but is that all we sell then ? and they USA only want the nato countries to keep to there word that’s fair isn’t it ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no " So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time. | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked. No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well .yes that’s right but is that all we sell then ? and they USA only want the nato countries to keep to there word that’s fair isn’t it ?" Yup  | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time." we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that " Just like our ridiculous defense budget.  | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. "you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain "True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?"because there’s no other country that can do it | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?"Guess the bases are a form of financial assistance. But money can be better spent here instead. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?
Guess the bases are a form of financial assistance. But money can be better spent here instead."I bet it could we all going to need more at home after covid that’s for sure | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?
Guess the bases are a form of financial assistance. But money can be better spent here instead. I bet it could we all going to need more at home after covid that’s for sure "Recruitment levels will drop this year because of the current political atmosphere. The retention is a problem we see friends just give up and just get out. It's not a Honorable position to hold anymore. Crazy | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked. No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well .yes that’s right but is that all we sell then ? and they USA only want the nato countries to keep to there word that’s fair isn’t it ?" What Buy American Planes instead of building things like Spitfires or Harrier Jum Jets ? What has Happened to British People ? | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked. No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well .yes that’s right but is that all we sell then ? and they USA only want the nato countries to keep to there word that’s fair isn’t it ? Yup "We dont need the US 1939 -1945 NOT D-Day 1944-1945 | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it "When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ? | |||
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" When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ? " December 11, 1941 | |||
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" When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ? December 11, 1941" Do you mean December 7th 1941 ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
"December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA. | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked. No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well .yes that’s right but is that all we sell then ? and they USA only want the nato countries to keep to there word that’s fair isn’t it ? Yup
We dont need the US
1939 -1945
NOT D-Day 1944-1945 "what as ww2 got anything to do with it ffs | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA. "But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944 What took them so long ? | |||
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""Who are going to buy all our weapons?" The poor countries! EU countries and the UK spend less than 2% of their GDP on Defence (which pisses off the Americans who want us to spend more so as to relieve their cost of being "The World's Policeman"), countries like Armenia and Djibouti spell a hell of a lot more than that. Eritrea over 20%! And let's not talk about the oil-rich Arab States that spend more money than the rest of us all put together on equipment and installations that would last all of five minutes if attacked. No Lionel said " who is going to buy ? " That means who we sell stuff to. Poor countries & To the Likes of those Oil rich arabs you mention See its not all poor countries Its Rich countries we SELL TO as well .yes that’s right but is that all we sell then ? and they USA only want the nato countries to keep to there word that’s fair isn’t it ? Yup
We dont need the US
1939 -1945
NOT D-Day 1944-1945 what as ww2 got anything to do with it ffs "Read the threads You'll get the Jist | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?"We wanted the isolationism that didn't happen now did it. Same as now. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?"do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. "Exactly | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. " | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it.
Exactly "Yup Russians did there thing we held them in check during the cold war. Still have airbases controlled by our interests in forgien lands. It's Europes turn to hold china in check. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it.
Exactly
Yup Russians did there thing we held them in check during the cold war. Still have airbases controlled by our interests in forgien lands. It's Europes turn to hold china in check."How many countries did Russia invade or intervene in during the cold war? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it.
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Yup Russians did there thing we held them in check during the cold war. Still have airbases controlled by our interests in forgien lands. It's Europes turn to hold china in check.
How many countries did Russia invade or intervene in during the cold war?"Try reading some history books about the iron curtain, the cold war started the day after the yalta conference, I'm sure all those behind the iron curtain were really happy when they found they had been freed from one despot only to be controlled by another lot. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it.
Exactly
Yup Russians did there thing we held them in check during the cold war. Still have airbases controlled by our interests in forgien lands. It's Europes turn to hold china in check."The Brits arent keen on Immigrants Taking there jobs etc . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. "so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?"No they just sacrificed 20 million people and thought one of the most vicious brutal wars in history. Without the russians the history of the war would have been completely different. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?"You also realise we had to pay for that? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?"Only finished paying for it in 2006 Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
"A lot of our innovative technology went over there too. It was an expensive exercise. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise. "Yup Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
No they just sacrificed 20 million people and thought one of the most vicious brutal wars in history.
Without the russians the history of the war would have been completely different."so did Britain we have massive losses aswell and fought a vicious battles but we couldn’t do that without the food oil arms weapons from the USA and yes we paid for it doesn’t food and arms cost money like as we couldn’t afford the cost up front without the US the outcome of the war may well of been very different t | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
"struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
"Why be fussed it would have been the same here should the American Taxpayer pay for the loan when we had a isolationism policy at the time ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
No they just sacrificed 20 million people and thought one of the most vicious brutal wars in history.
Without the russians the history of the war would have been completely different.so did Britain we have massive losses aswell and fought a vicious battles but we couldn’t do that without the food oil arms weapons from the USA and yes we paid for it doesn’t food and arms cost money like as we couldn’t afford the cost up front without the US the outcome of the war may well of been very different t "I find it baffling that even now,the english struggle to give the Russians an ounce of credit for their staggering losses. They lost over 20 million..probally more..we lost a fraction of that. They suffered horrendous treatment at the hands of the nazis. Yet we still give that barely an acknowledgement. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
No they just sacrificed 20 million people and thought one of the most vicious brutal wars in history.
Without the russians the history of the war would have been completely different.so did Britain we have massive losses aswell and fought a vicious battles but we couldn’t do that without the food oil arms weapons from the USA and yes we paid for it doesn’t food and arms cost money like as we couldn’t afford the cost up front without the US the outcome of the war may well of been very different t
I find it baffling that even now,the english struggle to give the Russians an ounce of credit for their staggering losses.
They lost over 20 million..probally more..we lost a fraction of that.
They suffered horrendous treatment at the hands of the nazis.
Yet we still give that barely an acknowledgement. "ot was awful what the Russians went through Lionel but I was responding to the USA then you switched it to the Russians we lost a fraction because we had a smaller population and and island the Jews suffered a terrible loss aswell Germans french Italians USA Canada every fucker lost but without the USA the U.K. would look a lot different tday to give America some credit does t mean your against corbyn mate try it you won’t pass out | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
No they just sacrificed 20 million people and thought one of the most vicious brutal wars in history.
Without the russians the history of the war would have been completely different.so did Britain we have massive losses aswell and fought a vicious battles but we couldn’t do that without the food oil arms weapons from the USA and yes we paid for it doesn’t food and arms cost money like as we couldn’t afford the cost up front without the US the outcome of the war may well of been very different t
I find it baffling that even now,the english struggle to give the Russians an ounce of credit for their staggering losses.
They lost over 20 million..probally more..we lost a fraction of that.
They suffered horrendous treatment at the hands of the nazis.
Yet we still give that barely an acknowledgement. "Germany invented the blitzkrieg Stalin's dumbass instituted the great purge pre involvement. Highly trained troops against poorly trained. 10 million dead because of his blunder | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. " I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
No they just sacrificed 20 million people and thought one of the most vicious brutal wars in history.
Without the russians the history of the war would have been completely different.so did Britain we have massive losses aswell and fought a vicious battles but we couldn’t do that without the food oil arms weapons from the USA and yes we paid for it doesn’t food and arms cost money like as we couldn’t afford the cost up front without the US the outcome of the war may well of been very different t
I find it baffling that even now,the english struggle to give the Russians an ounce of credit for their staggering losses.
They lost over 20 million..probally more..we lost a fraction of that.
They suffered horrendous treatment at the hands of the nazis.
Yet we still give that barely an acknowledgement.
Germany invented the blitzkrieg
Stalin's dumbass instituted the great purge pre involvement.
Highly trained troops against poorly trained. 10 million dead because of his blunder "Most of the Russians soldiers were peasants. Stalin fucked up by purging his army of all the generals. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. " Very true, it was called a world war for a reason, the main reason the allies won in europe was Hitler attacked russia, had he not done so it might well have ended differently, had we not won the battle of britain it would have ended differently. Let's just be grateful for those that died for us | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. " I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level." probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf " Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain "You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then All they did was moan about the yanks this the yanks that . " If they had have got involved in Europe earlier We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts In 3 years " . Thats what i heard every day from some of theold market stall holdsrs . Plus they liked the Russians " Got balls of steel that lot " " Not like them over the pond " . Theyd all say . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own." see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own." Yup Hardly a star spngled banner anywhere to be seen | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
"aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ?" But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism." Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism." I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol" He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you." Simply pointing out if we had an hour of need it was then. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing." I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh? | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. Simply pointing out if we had an hour of need it was then." . And I gave you the answer you got owned at Dunkirk there was nothing no one could do at the time. The British military was left to their own defeat. It happens. New military tactics by the Germans played that role. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. Simply pointing out if we had an hour of need it was then.. And I gave you the answer you got owned at Dunkirk there was nothing no one could do at the time. The British military was left to their own defeat. It happens. New military tactics by the Germans played that role." Fairly sure I didn't ask a question. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. Simply pointing out if we had an hour of need it was then.. And I gave you the answer you got owned at Dunkirk there was nothing no one could do at the time. The British military was left to their own defeat. It happens. New military tactics by the Germans played that role. Fairly sure I didn't ask a question." Ok then explain how american intervention at Dunkirk could have happened enlightened me. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?" you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. Simply pointing out if we had an hour of need it was then.. And I gave you the answer you got owned at Dunkirk there was nothing no one could do at the time. The British military was left to their own defeat. It happens. New military tactics by the Germans played that role. Fairly sure I didn't ask a question. Ok then explain how american intervention at Dunkirk could have happened enlightened me." Ive explained 3 times now. I truly cant be arsed explaining again. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America " Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ?" Had there not been an Eastern Front, it is unlikely that the Channel would have ever been crossed. The Eastern Front was the most influential tactical advantage that the Allies had on D-Day. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. " Whatever you want I love debating you. We can do the rocket scientists we imported from Germany or whatever you wish. History is grand and it repeats itself. Your seeing today choices made back then. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. Whatever you want I love debating you. We can do the rocket scientists we imported from Germany or whatever you wish. History is grand and it repeats itself. Your seeing today choices made back then." No offense your awesome glad you have your own opinion. It's yours don't change. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. Whatever you want I love debating you. We can do the rocket scientists we imported from Germany or whatever you wish. History is grand and it repeats itself. Your seeing today choices made back then."
Apologies for my narky response.
Foxy said our lowest point during the war was when you joined..I was simply pointing out our lowest point was at dunkirk.
Not that's when you shouod have intervened.
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. Whatever you want I love debating you. We can do the rocket scientists we imported from Germany or whatever you wish. History is grand and it repeats itself. Your seeing today choices made back then.
Apologies for my narky response.
Foxy said our lowest point during the war was when you joined..I was simply pointing out our lowest point was at dunkirk.
Not that's when you shouod have intervened.
You were in the midst of isolation."Thanks you can be snarky I expect it from you . No apologies needed it's you. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. Whatever you want I love debating you. We can do the rocket scientists we imported from Germany or whatever you wish. History is grand and it repeats itself. Your seeing today choices made back then.
Apologies for my narky response.
Foxy said our lowest point during the war was when you joined..I was simply pointing out our lowest point was at dunkirk.
Not that's when you shouod have intervened.
You were in the midst of isolation."so all these post where because you thought the lowest point was different to what I said lol Okies Lionel you where right there there there | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism.I think there was few hours of need Lionel running out of food was one of them you just come across like you will credit lots of country’s except the USA it’s as if you have an agenda against America lol He does and it's confusing. I love the America first policy. Yet screams about the previous administration. Confusing. I wasnt screaming about anything. For the 3rd time now our low point was at dunkirk. Best not mention those American firms who did business with the nazis eh?you’ve proved my point you do have an agenda against America Good point Pointing out something that actually happened now constitutes having an agenda. Perhaps you could point out which bits of history we can discuss. Whatever you want I love debating you. We can do the rocket scientists we imported from Germany or whatever you wish. History is grand and it repeats itself. Your seeing today choices made back then.
Apologies for my narky response.
Foxy said our lowest point during the war was when you joined..I was simply pointing out our lowest point was at dunkirk.
Not that's when you shouod have intervened.
You were in the midst of isolation.
Thanks you can be snarky I expect it from you . No apologies needed it's you. " | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl"A few ? Kin thousands of en Roman road Walthamstow Ridley road Dagenham I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
"Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you." They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better."Im not drinking poppit . If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd Go try some new reading implements . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. Simply pointing out if we had an hour of need it was then.. And I gave you the answer you got owned at Dunkirk there was nothing no one could do at the time. The British military was left to their own defeat. It happens. New military tactics by the Germans played that role. Fairly sure I didn't ask a question. Ok then explain how american intervention at Dunkirk could have happened enlightened me." D-Day 1944 . War could have been over alot quicker. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
"Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you."Had my 2nd vaccine jab today Mayne thats whats causing it . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it ."Lol love you too congrats. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.""What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
"Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries. "But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries. "Good Countries built on armys are Just desperate to murder . Stay home keep fit & leave the world alone . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home."Do all americans cum when they sing there national anthem Like Jim Jeffries the comedian says ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home."Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home.
Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up."People die when soldiers shoot them Time to pack up & go home . Jo one really wants an army | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home.
Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up.
People die when soldiers shoot them
Time to pack up & go home .
Jo one really wants an army "Armies represents Thier countries interests and values. So if I invade your home kill your significant other and take everything you own and kick you out without anything you be ecstatically happy ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home.
Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up.
People die when soldiers shoot them
Time to pack up & go home .
Jo one really wants an army
Armies represents Thier countries interests and values. So if I invade your home kill your significant other and take everything you own and kick you out without anything you be ecstatically happy ? "You wouldnt be getting anywhere near getting through my door alive | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home.
Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up.
People die when soldiers shoot them
Time to pack up & go home .
Jo one really wants an army
Armies represents Thier countries interests and values. So if I invade your home kill your significant other and take everything you own and kick you out without anything you be ecstatically happy ?
You wouldnt be getting anywhere near
getting through my door alive
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home.
Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up.
People die when soldiers shoot them
Time to pack up & go home .
Jo one really wants an army
Armies represents Thier countries interests and values. So if I invade your home kill your significant other and take everything you own and kick you out without anything you be ecstatically happy ?
You wouldnt be getting anywhere near
getting through my door alive
Even with my VR80 ! It's basically knock knock let the devil in "What you think that is getting through customs ? Keep Dreaming Dreamer | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
aw well argument over a few market stall holders told you In the 70s did they say the food the Russians sent over in the war was nice aswell pmsl
A few ?
Kin thousands of en
Roman road
Walthamstow
Ridley road
Dagenham
I'd take there word over it every day as they lived through it
Unlike the oh so knowledgeable you .
Please put the boddingtons down this makes no sense. Love ya you can do better.
Im not drinking poppit .
If you cant make sense of it id suggest youd
Go try some new reading implements .
Well love you usually pretty awesome on your spelling and points. Youd love is highly unlike you.
Had my 2nd vaccine jab today
Mayne thats whats causing it .
Lol love you too congrats.
"What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America.
Now no offense the " woke " agenda going to destroy our military. They lowering standards to appease and treating it as a third party to use. Look at our army recruiting press releases compared to other countries.
But if that what the civilian population thinks is correct. Even tho I hate it well I had a oath. Until proved otherwise. Combat not for everyone to treat it as a "job". You can't instantly quit mid engagement and go home.
Imagine if every soldier said F this I am out of here I can't handle it. Not the same as civilian life. People' die if you give up.
People die when soldiers shoot them
Time to pack up & go home .
Jo one really wants an army
Armies represents Thier countries interests and values. So if I invade your home kill your significant other and take everything you own and kick you out without anything you be ecstatically happy ?
You wouldnt be getting anywhere near
getting through my door alive
Even with my VR80 ! It's basically knock knock let the devil in
What you think that is getting through customs ?
Keep Dreaming Dreamer
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that " Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day ." fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! " lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?"And there's the rest of the world thinking that American forces were involved in the invasion of Italy in 1943! | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here " Do you realise there has been a common held belief for decades that the anericans rode in and stole the glory? I'm not saying I subscribe to it,I think all 3 allied powers at the time each made a significant chunk to the war effort. I just think here in particular, the Russian effort Is often overlooked. However it does show you just how powerful the germans were ,that they were to take on the 3 superpowers,at the time,almost single handedly. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here Do you realise there has been a common held belief for decades that the anericans rode in and stole the glory? I'm not saying I subscribe to it,I think all 3 allied powers at the time each made a significant chunk to the war effort. I just think here in particular, the Russian effort Is often overlooked. However it does show you just how powerful the germans were ,that they were to take on the 3 superpowers,at the time,almost single handedly." did they steal the glory giving Britain aid for years during the war across the Atlantic ? | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here Do you realise there has been a common held belief for decades that the anericans rode in and stole the glory? I'm not saying I subscribe to it,I think all 3 allied powers at the time each made a significant chunk to the war effort. I just think here in particular, the Russian effort Is often overlooked. However it does show you just how powerful the germans were ,that they were to take on the 3 superpowers,at the time,almost single handedly. did they steal the glory giving Britain aid for years during the war across the Atlantic ?" Did you see the bit where I I stated..I'm not saying I subscribe to it? I'm saying it was a commonly held belief. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here Do you realise there has been a common held belief for decades that the anericans rode in and stole the glory? I'm not saying I subscribe to it,I think all 3 allied powers at the time each made a significant chunk to the war effort. I just think here in particular, the Russian effort Is often overlooked. However it does show you just how powerful the germans were ,that they were to take on the 3 superpowers,at the time,almost single handedly. did they steal the glory giving Britain aid for years during the war across the Atlantic ? Did you see the bit where I I stated..I'm not saying I subscribe to it? I'm saying it was a commonly held belief." your posts for a long time are anti usa Lionel | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here Do you realise there has been a common held belief for decades that the anericans rode in and stole the glory? I'm not saying I subscribe to it,I think all 3 allied powers at the time each made a significant chunk to the war effort. I just think here in particular, the Russian effort Is often overlooked. However it does show you just how powerful the germans were ,that they were to take on the 3 superpowers,at the time,almost single handedly. did they steal the glory giving Britain aid for years during the war across the Atlantic ? Did you see the bit where I I stated..I'm not saying I subscribe to it? I'm saying it was a commonly held belief.your posts for a long time are anti usa Lionel " I give up. | |||
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"We wouldn't have won WW2 without the Russian contribution. How it would have panned out if Germany hasn't invaded Russia, is a matter of great debate. But it should also be pointed out that Russia was only fighting on one front, whereas the USA and the UK Commonwealth forces were also fighting in Asia. " | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
"Seeing as you claim to have been born in 1976 I doubt you discussing ww2 politics with stall holders at any point in the 1970's | |||
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"We wouldn't have won WW2 without the Russian contribution. How it would have panned out if Germany hasn't invaded Russia, is a matter of great debate. But it should also be pointed out that Russia was only fighting on one front, whereas the USA and the UK Commonwealth forces were also fighting in Asia. " And africa | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?do you not think without them Germany would of won the war ?
The Russians had more to do with it. so did the Russians feed us and arm us throughout the war so no merchant ships where asnt in the Atlantic then ?
You also realise we had to pay for that?
Only finished paying for it in 2006
Many say The Uk sold its arse to the U.S
A lot of our innovative technology went over there too.
It was an expensive exercise.
Yup
Yet none of the Brexperts seem to fussed that America is the biggest reason this country struggled for decades .
struggling for decades was better than the other option in fact it was the only option funny how the people who actually lived throughout them times didn’t complain
You obviously didnt grow up in 7ps London then
All they did was moan about
the yanks this
the yanks that .
" If they had have got involved in Europe earlier
We.could uaverecovered & destroyed the krauts
In 3 years " .
Thats what i heard every day from some
of theold market stall holdsrs .
Plus they liked the Russians
" Got balls of steel that lot "
" Not like them over the pond " .
Theyd all say .
Seeing as you claim to have been born in 1976 I doubt you discussing ww2 politics with stall holders at any point in the 1970's "pmsl he lives in a world of his own I think | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?"Plenty of documentaries on that as you would expect Some of it was a grudge that Roosevelt had with Churchill, going back to when thy met while both serving in WW1. Also a factor, was the American people not want to get involved I. The main. Financial and industrial support/aid was given a lot earlier than military support though, via the lend/lease scheme etc. There is a good chance that it may have been an axis win if the USA hasn’t become involved. Probably the greatest issue in my opinion is operation Barbarossa and Hitler pressing ahead against the Soviet Union, overreaching his supply lines and underestimating the weather and the resolve of his enemy. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska " So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. " IF they had conquered Russia how would they had an army twice the size of the USA ? | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?
And there's the rest of the world thinking that American forces were involved in the invasion of Italy in 1943!"A battalion of Chimps armed with fruit would have Been enough to make Mussolini turn tail & change sides . So Italian invasions dont really count . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. IF they had conquered Russia how would they had an army twice the size of the USA ? " So they didn’t use Cossacks , Italians , Ukraine troops not to mention once Russia was under control they had Siberian divisions along with the Japanese . Like the Romans before them you conquer and recruit as your the only job in town. So not retort on the Atom bomb then? | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here " Not my Words poppit Do you not understand what these things are " " ? Its Quotation Mark's Popularised by Tommy Tinder & Spoken by many an Englishman back then. It was a part of popular culture here . https://youtu.be/N_atKPni7dk Not like you to be offended or insulted . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. " Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?
And there's the rest of the world thinking that American forces were involved in the invasion of Italy in 1943!
A battalion of Chimps armed with fruit would have
Been enough to make Mussolini turn tail & change sides .
So Italian invasions dont really count ."No, your response should be "yes. I got that fact wrong". Italy was garrisoned by many crack German regiments. It was no walk in the park fighting up Italy. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I think over here we have a tendency to ignore that Russian sacrifice tbh. When we speak about winning the war..its invariably us and the Americans. Even those celebrations a few years ago. Ve day..Russia was barely mentioned. I only learnt what the Russians went through at a level.probably because the Americans came to our aid Lionel at our hour of need the thousands of merchant ships crossing the Atlantic where filled with food oil medicines machinery arms then the gi landed on our shores maybe that’s why we remember them more than the Russians tbf Personally I'd say our hour of need when we got volleyed out of Europe at dunkirk and were fairly much on our own. see you defend Russia very respectfully Lionel then when you talk about Britain it’s we got volleyed out of Europe ffs I don’t think the USA could of done much to help 3thousamd miles away Russia where a lot closer tho did they help us across the Chanel ? But surely if we had an hour of need it was then? We were on our own,the germans controlled most of europe and the future didmt look too bright. And at that time our leaders saw communism as no better than nazism. Isolation policy and the vast expanse of the Atlantic. Planes had a limited range at that time. It wasn't a 24 hour endeavor now was it. Boats do not instantly cross oceans. We did not have the transportation capabilities Our industrial might had to ramp up those capabilities. Can't put tanks and artillery on yachts now can you. They managed to bring plenty to England & Let them wander around in relative freedom , While the uks sdiers faced battles on a daily basis . The Brave Americans rolled into Africa in 1942 Didnt get involved in europe untill 44 . "What do you think is wrong with the American soldiers?" The Britisher answered: "Well, they're overdressed, they're overpaid, they're oversexed, and they're over here." Given that the expression is British it must have been in use there prior to it finding its way to America". Sums up the Americans to this day .fucking disgusting the way you talk about them brave American soldiers that came to help a war thousands of miles from there homes they died fighting for us all and all you do on here is slag them off shame on you but your not the only one with a hatred of the USA on here " Not my Words poppit Do you not understand what these things are " " ? Its Quotation Mark's Popularised by Tommy Tinder & Spoken by many an Englishman back then. It was a part of popular culture here . https://youtu.be/N_atKPni7dk Not like you to be offended or insulted . | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?
And there's the rest of the world thinking that American forces were involved in the invasion of Italy in 1943!
A battalion of Chimps armed with fruit would have
Been enough to make Mussolini turn tail & change sides .
So Italian invasions dont really count .
No, your response should be "yes. I got that fact wrong".
Italy was garrisoned by many crack German regiments. It was no walk in the park fighting up Italy. "Italy was never a major battle . Unlike the rest of Europe . Thankfully Britain Had Moscow & its people Fighting along to . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks " And the civilian population owning guns. Yamamoto famously pointed out. Our hunters today out number some world militaries.. Forgien countries today would love to see a disarmed american population. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?
And there's the rest of the world thinking that American forces were involved in the invasion of Italy in 1943!
A battalion of Chimps armed with fruit would have
Been enough to make Mussolini turn tail & change sides .
So Italian invasions dont really count .
No, your response should be "yes. I got that fact wrong".
Italy was garrisoned by many crack German regiments. It was no walk in the park fighting up Italy.
Italy was never a major battle .
Unlike the rest of Europe .
Thankfully Britain Had Moscow & its people
Fighting along to ."More embarrassing stuff 70,000 allied troops died in italy with over 300,000 casualties, the germans lost far more, a real walk in the park, that's over half the number that have died in the uk from covid are those deaths insignificant too ? | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks " Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks And the civilian population owning guns. Yamamoto famously pointed out. Our hunters today out number some world militaries.. Forgien countries today would love to see a disarmed american population." I doubt the german army had enough men to control the world from the uk to Alaska, the resistance in russia alone would have taken huge numbers to control. | |||
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"Question should we have a foreign aid policy at this moment in time.id say not at this moment no So why do we need a boat to go out and project our soft power? Both things are to serve the same purpose. Why one and not the other, particularly when one actually does a bit of good at the same time.we don’t need the boat it’s a vanity project and a shite one at that Just like our ridiculous defense budget. you wouldn’t need to spend that Miuch if all the nato countries kept to there side of the bargain
True. Closing overseas bases would cut the budget alot. We have more overseas bases than any country. Why? Maintaining the peace ?because there’s no other country that can do it
When did the Americans actually join in ww2 in Europe ?
December 11th 1941, when Germany declared war on the USA.
But they didnt land feet on the ground in Europe until 1944
What took them so long ?
And there's the rest of the world thinking that American forces were involved in the invasion of Italy in 1943!
A battalion of Chimps armed with fruit would have
Been enough to make Mussolini turn tail & change sides .
So Italian invasions dont really count .
No, your response should be "yes. I got that fact wrong".
Italy was garrisoned by many crack German regiments. It was no walk in the park fighting up Italy.
Italy was never a major battle .
Unlike the rest of Europe .
Thankfully Britain Had Moscow & its people
Fighting along to .
More embarrassing stuff 70,000 allied troops died in italy with over 300,000 casualties, the germans lost far more, a real walk in the park, that's over half the number that have died in the uk from covid are those deaths insignificant too ? "Death in war is seen as collateral by those in command . Death from pandemics in the uk Is Tory Incompetence. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . " T34 was a deciding factor. Russian tank was cheap easily manufactured and in my opinion the best tank of the war. Battle of Kursk turned the tide for the Russians. Innovative cheap design. Sloped armor which is still used today. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks And the civilian population owning guns. Yamamoto famously pointed out. Our hunters today out number some world militaries.. Forgien countries today would love to see a disarmed american population. I doubt the german army had enough men to control the world from the uk to Alaska, the resistance in russia alone would have taken huge numbers to control." So why do we need to be grateful for those that Saved our futures in war ? As the statement usually goes . " We'd all be talking German now if it wasnt for those brave souls " . Those brave souls were just Cannon Fodder so The big boys could get rich selling more Milataria . Pure & Simple . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . " It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. " Germamy reached the outskirts of moscow . Thats where the power was. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. " The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . T34 was a deciding factor. Russian tank was cheap easily manufactured and in my opinion the best tank of the war. Battle of Kursk turned the tide for the Russians. Innovative cheap design. Sloped armor which is still used today." Yes, the Germans had the best tanks but never enough of them. Lack of fuel was also a deciding factor for the Germans. The T34 and the american Sherman were cheap and plentiful, and didn't guzzle fuel like their bigger and heavier German counterparts. In the end, it became a numbers game, one that the Germans lost. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries " Oh dont be silly The U.S was still virtually skint Roosevelt didnt want to jump straight in The 10 year depression was just over & They needed trade selling to britain To make them rich again . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. " You claimed my post was bollocks !! Russia had aid and supplies from the US and U.K. without those vital war supplies Russia would have been fucked. They didn’t have the raw factory capacity to build enough tanks etc. They were given breathing space by those convoys . We couldn’t have pulled off D day without the US so Germany could have concentrated on defeating Russia. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. Germamy reached the outskirts of moscow . Thats where the power was." Berlin to moscow is around 1800 km, moscow to the bering straits is over 6000, according to google, power moves when threatened. History shows germany failed to beat Russia. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. " there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries " The Vichy French will tell you there was always thought g to be enough volunteers to suppress any uprisings. Yes guerrilla warfare would be ongoing. But that would just be violence not freedom. All the commonwealth countries were mobilised and yet even with that we still struggled to hold on. 22 miles of water saved us in effect. We would never have had a chance. The far east would have been lost swiftly without the US . My point is the US had to join or they were ultimately in trouble just the same as us. | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. You claimed my post was bollocks !! Russia had aid and supplies from the US and U.K. without those vital war supplies Russia would have been fucked. They didn’t have the raw factory capacity to build enough tanks etc. They were given breathing space by those convoys . We couldn’t have pulled off D day without the US so Germany could have concentrated on defeating Russia. " you claimed Russia had vast supplies so why did they need aid from the USA and Britain then ? | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. You claimed my post was bollocks !! Russia had aid and supplies from the US and U.K. without those vital war supplies Russia would have been fucked. They didn’t have the raw factory capacity to build enough tanks etc. They were given breathing space by those convoys . We couldn’t have pulled off D day without the US so Germany could have concentrated on defeating Russia. " Sorry the post I meant to call bollocks was not yours, please accept my apologies, | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army " Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. You claimed my post was bollocks !! Russia had aid and supplies from the US and U.K. without those vital war supplies Russia would have been fucked. They didn’t have the raw factory capacity to build enough tanks etc. They were given breathing space by those convoys . We couldn’t have pulled off D day without the US so Germany could have concentrated on defeating Russia. you claimed Russia had vast supplies so why did they need aid from the USA and Britain then ? " Because so mNy were killed by the germans & The rest were fighting them The manpower wasnt available to Win the war & build what was needed . | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries The Vichy French will tell you there was always thought g to be enough volunteers to suppress any uprisings. Yes guerrilla warfare would be ongoing. But that would just be violence not freedom. All the commonwealth countries were mobilised and yet even with that we still struggled to hold on. 22 miles of water saved us in effect. We would never have had a chance. The far east would have been lost swiftly without the US . My point is the US had to join or they were ultimately in trouble just the same as us. " so why didn’t the Germans cross them 22 miles then because they where too over stretched and nee Britain would be a hell of a lot harder to overcome than the french and rest of Europe | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. You claimed my post was bollocks !! Russia had aid and supplies from the US and U.K. without those vital war supplies Russia would have been fucked. They didn’t have the raw factory capacity to build enough tanks etc. They were given breathing space by those convoys . We couldn’t have pulled off D day without the US so Germany could have concentrated on defeating Russia. Sorry the post I meant to call bollocks was not yours, please accept my apologies, " It did seem a bit strong for my post !
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. Germamy reached the outskirts of moscow . Thats where the power was. Berlin to moscow is around 1800 km, moscow to the bering straits is over 6000, according to google, power moves when threatened. History shows germany failed to beat Russia." Yup Russia won Not the U.S The Russians Great People the Ruskies | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries The Vichy French will tell you there was always thought g to be enough volunteers to suppress any uprisings. Yes guerrilla warfare would be ongoing. But that would just be violence not freedom. All the commonwealth countries were mobilised and yet even with that we still struggled to hold on. 22 miles of water saved us in effect. We would never have had a chance. The far east would have been lost swiftly without the US . My point is the US had to join or they were ultimately in trouble just the same as us. so why didn’t the Germans cross them 22 miles then because they where too over stretched and nee Britain would be a hell of a lot harder to overcome than the french and rest of Europe " They didn’t need to . They knew we weren’t a threat . Once Russia was done then they would turn to us. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . " sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow | |||
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"I think it’s an insult to the sacrifices made to claim any one country won the war. Russian soldiers fought and died, Czech and Polish pilots flew Spitfires to keep the German airforce at bay. French soldiers died defending Dunkirk to help the brits escape. The commonwealth countries sacrificed their sons throughout the world. Yes America funded and armed the allies and their guys died just the same as ours but without the worlds commitment to fight and die the world including the US would now be a very different place. It was a world wide effort and each individual who died or was disfigured earned their place in getting the credit for saving our future. I agree with all that jackal they all deserve massive respect everyone of them but I think the USA would of been ok if they had just looked after themselves the Atlantic would of seen to that Not with a northern border in Alaska controlled by Hitler they wouldn’t!! lol you don’t really think they would of let them anywhere near Alaska So they conquered Russia and now control its immense raw materials to build an army twice the size of the US They control the DE, U.K.DE, IT FR JP navy’s They will control millions of armed men. Their airforce would be massive. They will control the seas and you think the US will be able to fight off the world ?? One more thing to remember it was the Germans who lead the atom bomb development . I think the US would be crushed if they hadn’t helped. The US new this only too well. Embarrassing as you like to say, germany population in 39 was 67 million,the usa 130 million, how exactly were they going to have an army twice the size of the usa, apart from the bit about access to russian raw materials the rest is total bollocks Nice rude comment to be expected. How do you think the Germans planned on defeating Russia with twice the population too?? because it’s not the numbers it’s the ability and equipment. The Germans had a powerful army in 1944 but their loss of air power made most of the army redundant. Why are we ranked 8 or 9th in world on military strength when our armed forces are numbers around 40th largest . And remember the Germans would have had nukes earlier than us too!! Raw numbers don’t mean strength so you’re talking bollocks . Granny doesn’t go to war . It wasnt a rude comment, well according to the poster I responded to, he has used that word several times and claims it's a comment on the post not the poster. Perhaps you should pull him up next time he uses it. Your comment about how were they going to defeat russia proves the point doesnt it, they didnt defeat russia they got as far as stalingrad which is in reality not that far into Russia. Germamy reached the outskirts of moscow . Thats where the power was. Berlin to moscow is around 1800 km, moscow to the bering straits is over 6000, according to google, power moves when threatened. History shows germany failed to beat Russia. Yup Russia won Not the U.S The Russians Great People the Ruskies "They fought with determination . Read a book called ‘The Forgotten Soldier’ by Guy Sager . It’s the true story of a German fighting in the Russian front. Simply shocking read of the relentless onslaught . | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries The Vichy French will tell you there was always thought g to be enough volunteers to suppress any uprisings. Yes guerrilla warfare would be ongoing. But that would just be violence not freedom. All the commonwealth countries were mobilised and yet even with that we still struggled to hold on. 22 miles of water saved us in effect. We would never have had a chance. The far east would have been lost swiftly without the US . My point is the US had to join or they were ultimately in trouble just the same as us. so why didn’t the Germans cross them 22 miles then because they where too over stretched and nee Britain would be a hell of a lot harder to overcome than the french and rest of Europe They didn’t need to . They knew we weren’t a threat . Once Russia was done then they would turn to us. " we weren’t a threat we were the only ones fighting them in Europe and africa | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow " But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. " that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries The Vichy French will tell you there was always thought g to be enough volunteers to suppress any uprisings. Yes guerrilla warfare would be ongoing. But that would just be violence not freedom. All the commonwealth countries were mobilised and yet even with that we still struggled to hold on. 22 miles of water saved us in effect. We would never have had a chance. The far east would have been lost swiftly without the US . My point is the US had to join or they were ultimately in trouble just the same as us. so why didn’t the Germans cross them 22 miles then because they where too over stretched and nee Britain would be a hell of a lot harder to overcome than the french and rest of Europe They didn’t need to . They knew we weren’t a threat . Once Russia was done then they would turn to us. we weren’t a threat we were the only ones fighting them in Europe and africa " Look at the history and why America started fighting in Africa in 1942 . They were helping monty . | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative " My only point was the US had to fight and couldn’t stay out or they too would have eventually lost. I have total respect for Russia’s fight. Stalin was a twat . But Mao puts him to shame by killing 70m of his own people . Now that’s evil. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. The us could have brought millions more troops in had they been needed and dont forget all the troops from the empire countries too, equipment is every bit as important as recruits, how many poles for for germany, or Belgians , Dutch or french, of course a few would if they were fascist supporters, even a few brits would have but the numbers would be tiny, especially in russia when they saw what the germans did do their countrymen. It would take more germans to control the native populations than they would get in volunteers from those countries The Vichy French will tell you there was always thought g to be enough volunteers to suppress any uprisings. Yes guerrilla warfare would be ongoing. But that would just be violence not freedom. All the commonwealth countries were mobilised and yet even with that we still struggled to hold on. 22 miles of water saved us in effect. We would never have had a chance. The far east would have been lost swiftly without the US . My point is the US had to join or they were ultimately in trouble just the same as us. so why didn’t the Germans cross them 22 miles then because they where too over stretched and nee Britain would be a hell of a lot harder to overcome than the french and rest of Europe They didn’t need to . They knew we weren’t a threat . Once Russia was done then they would turn to us. we weren’t a threat we were the only ones fighting them in Europe and africa Look at the history and why America started fighting in Africa in 1942 . They were helping monty . " no shit really I didn’t know Churchill went to the USA begging for there help and and pleading how important Africa was | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative My only point was the US had to fight and couldn’t stay out or they too would have eventually lost. I have total respect for Russia’s fight. Stalin was a twat . But Mao puts him to shame by killing 70m of his own people . Now that’s evil. " but whether they had lost is just a matter of opinion I think the opposite | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative " The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully . | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully ." how the fuck have you come to I hate Europe get a grip man ffs the USA saved us mate and btw you keep saying yous are you going to tell us where your from ? | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully ." So loans to the UK was our fault ? Why did they ask in the first place if the Empire was on solid ground with finances. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully .how the fuck have you come to I hate Europe get a grip man ffs the USA saved us mate and btw you keep saying yous are you going to tell us where your from ?" Russia Saved us Mate There fighting spirit distracted Hitler From trampling on the UK Ive told you already where im from  | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully .how the fuck have you come to I hate Europe get a grip man ffs the USA saved us mate and btw you keep saying yous are you going to tell us where your from ? Russia Saved us Mate There fighting spirit distracted Hitler From trampling on the UK Ive told you already where im from "ok ye you keep saying it was Russian and not the USA lol no you said Belfast but that’s bollocks don’t know why your embarrassed where your from should be proud mate | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully . So loans to the UK was our fault ? Why did they ask in the first place if the Empire was on solid ground with finances. " Where did i say anything about loans ? The uk was encouraged to fight as nobody in the world the had balls Big enough or Was prepared to take on Hitler . The U.S sat on its arse trying to appease its massive 2nd generation populations of germans & others . Russia got involved as Germany saw it, as its way To invade & take its natural resources . | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully .how the fuck have you come to I hate Europe get a grip man ffs the USA saved us mate and btw you keep saying yous are you going to tell us where your from ? Russia Saved us Mate There fighting spirit distracted Hitler From trampling on the UK Ive told you already where im from ok ye you keep saying it was Russian and not the USA lol no you said Belfast but that’s bollocks don’t know why your embarrassed where your from should be proud mate "Im was born in Belfast . Why do you think it is Bollocks ? Or are you just being a bare faced bigot ? | |||
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"Berlin airlift. Russia was the world savior. Good bunch of lads."Pretty much why the U.S didnt reeally het inbolved untill 44. You just have to look at american wars to see how well you do . Vietnam - No win Afghanistan -No win | |||
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"Berlin airlift. Russia was the world savior. Good bunch of lads."Allied bombing of Dresden Ditto There are very few good guys in a war. | |||
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully .how the fuck have you come to I hate Europe get a grip man ffs the USA saved us mate and btw you keep saying yous are you going to tell us where your from ? Russia Saved us Mate There fighting spirit distracted Hitler From trampling on the UK Ive told you already where im from ok ye you keep saying it was Russian and not the USA lol no you said Belfast but that’s bollocks don’t know why your embarrassed where your from should be proud mate
Im was born in Belfast .
Why do you think it is Bollocks ?
Or are you just being a bare faced bigot ?"well if your born in Belfast mate you would be British so why do you keep saying yous instead of us | |||
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"Berlin airlift. Russia was the world savior. Good bunch of lads.
Pretty much why the U.S didnt reeally het inbolved untill 44.
You just have to look at american wars to see how well you do .
Vietnam - No win
Afghanistan -No win "that’s two no losses and one massive win then lol | |||
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"Berlin airlift. Russia was the world savior. Good bunch of lads.
Pretty much why the U.S didnt reeally het inbolved untill 44.
You just have to look at american wars to see how well you do .
Vietnam - No win
Afghanistan -No win that’s two no losses and one massive win then lol"Where did they win ? Panama doesnt count . | |||
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"Berlin airlift. Russia was the world savior. Good bunch of lads.
Pretty much why the U.S didnt reeally het inbolved untill 44.
You just have to look at american wars to see how well you do .
Vietnam - No win
Afghanistan -No win that’s two no losses and one massive win then lol
Where did they win ?
Panama doesnt count .
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"Just to back up the theory in WW2 German armed forces at peak 9.5m Japan at peak 7.5m USA Armed forces at peak 12m Not quite USA rules is it! The German forces were made up of various countries so it’s reasonable to expect them to recruit the countries they conquered. there wasn’t a chance in hell that the Germans would of been able to hold onto Russia the Russian resistance would of be huge and took up all there time keeping them at bay meanwhile the USA would of been recruiting a massive army and equipment by the time Germany got to Alaska the US would of been waiting for there starving battle tired army Russia is a group of nations . Look into their history. I’ve read some of it. There is no loyalty there at all. Their history is littered with violence between the Regions. Just like in The Soviet Union the Germans would have been welcomed by some . sorry I don’t agree nothing galvanises a country like an invading army just look at Afghanistan they burnt there crops killed there livestock poisoned there water when they couldn’t hold there ground the Germans would of starved there further they got to Moscow But that’s just it if they didn’t have two fronts to fight on their logistics was amazing and could have coped. Except their tank repair system which was efin awful. That failure saved a lot of allied lives. Japan could have attacked from the East if they weren’t attacking the US . Then there would be no counter attack by the Siberian divisions near Stalingrad. It’s all if but and maybe but military strategists have played this out repeatedly and we lose and the world order is completely rewritten. that was my point all along that if it wasn’t for the USA the world would look a lot different but the other squad seem to think it was Russia that won the war complaining that we took decades to pay back America my argument was what was the alternative The world became very different . It lost a Super Power . The UK fell off the chart in that regards . Everything else was divvied up between America & Russia & they have controlled The uk ever since . This is why i dont understand the brexit argument You hate Europe who are your neighbours But love the U.S even though it was they Who bankrupted you & ended the Empire fully .how the fuck have you come to I hate Europe get a grip man ffs the USA saved us mate and btw you keep saying yous are you going to tell us where your from ? Russia Saved us Mate There fighting spirit distracted Hitler From trampling on the UK Ive told you already where im from ok ye you keep saying it was Russian and not the USA lol no you said Belfast but that’s bollocks don’t know why your embarrassed where your from should be proud mate
Im was born in Belfast .
Why do you think it is Bollocks ?
Or are you just being a bare faced bigot ?well if your born in Belfast mate you would be British so why do you keep saying yous instead of us "Belfast isnt in Britain Its in Ireland . Youse should learn about geography | |||
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