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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?" I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue " https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer " Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative" doesn't take much for the racist card to be thrown around these days does it  | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. " Rather than guessing (wrongly) to suit your narrative. Why not read it? | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither." Treating people fairly and equally irrespective of race, gender or anything else is just about human decency and guck all to do with politics. The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics. | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. Treating people fairly and equally irrespective of race, gender or anything else is just about human decency and guck all to do with politics. The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics." That's their opinion to which they are 100% entitled, those booing assumably think it is a political gesture, an opinion they are also 100% entitled too. Opinions are free and for everyone, you or me dont get to say who can have one. Simple question for you , are people allowed to have a different opinion to you ? | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist?" It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. Rather than guessing (wrongly) to suit your narrative. Why not read it?" This. | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrativedoesn't take much for the racist card to be thrown around these days does it "Nope It normally happens when someone doesn't thing isreal are a great bunch of lads. | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy." I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression? | |||
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I am joking btw - I would happily see England win it, if here in a different footballing country, we wouldn’t have to endure the celebrations going on for 900 years too , | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression?" Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. Treating people fairly and equally irrespective of race, gender or anything else is just about human decency and guck all to do with politics. The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics. That's their opinion to which they are 100% entitled, those booing assumably think it is a political gesture, an opinion they are also 100% entitled too. Opinions are free and for everyone, you or me dont get to say who can have one. Simple question for you , are people allowed to have a different opinion to you ? " Wow. Just take a minute to read what you have said... The players are not giving an opinion as to why they are taking the knee. They have told us multiple times exactly the reason they are doing it. To protest against racism and intolerance in football. You however choose to think that they must be lying because you know what they are really taking the knee about. Really??? You were partly right - it is just an opinion, your opinion. And your opinion does not fit what the players have said on multiple occasions. Lying toe rags aren’t they huh??? | |||
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"I hate what Southgate wrote. It’s so well-written that it makes me want England to do well in the tournament .
I am joking btw - I would happily see England win it, if here in a different footballing country, we wouldn’t have to endure the celebrations going on for 900 years too,"cefnogwyr pêl-droed cymru am annibyniaeth .... peidiwch â mynd â mi adref   | |||
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" Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd" If you consider talking about racial oppression as division, maybe divisive then maybe you are part of the problem? Because this is a topic that should unify everyone. | |||
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" "So there it is then. Taking the knee is purely a gesture of solidarity, against racism. And anyone booing it is simply ignorant. Except. Hang on just a moment. Could there possibly be slightly more to it than that? After all, Millwall – not a team noted for its social justice warriors – booed players taking the knee at a match, then cheered when players linked arms and held up a banner against racism at the next game. Why would racists, boneheads, and people without compassion boo one gesture, then cheer another with the same meaning?" " Maybe one way to test this now is to ask the Scotland players if they would be happy to express their stand against racism by linking arms, and then gauge the reaction by the fans to their gesture? At the moment Scotland are still deciding if they will take the knee. | |||
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" Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd If you consider talking about racial oppression as division, maybe divisive then maybe you are part of the problem? Because this is a topic that should unify everyone." Exactly but are we no we are not. Is there division in societies ? | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. Treating people fairly and equally irrespective of race, gender or anything else is just about human decency and guck all to do with politics. The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics. That's their opinion to which they are 100% entitled, those booing assumably think it is a political gesture, an opinion they are also 100% entitled too. Opinions are free and for everyone, you or me dont get to say who can have one. Simple question for you , are people allowed to have a different opinion to you ? Wow. Just take a minute to read what you have said... The players are not giving an opinion as to why they are taking the knee. They have told us multiple times exactly the reason they are doing it. To protest against racism and intolerance in football. You however choose to think that they must be lying because you know what they are really taking the knee about. Really??? You were partly right - it is just an opinion, your opinion. And your opinion does not fit what the players have said on multiple occasions. Lying toe rags aren’t they huh???" Perhaps YOU should read what I wrote. The footballers are of the opinion that taking the knee is a non political gesture in support of anti racism, there are many who are of the opinion they are mistaken and that it is a political gesture, both are equally valid and arguments can be made for each view, in a free country all are allowed to have an opinion, just because you and I have a differnce over this doesnt make either right or wrong, where we differ is I accept both views you only want yours. | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?" Gareth Southgate and the England team have decided as a group to continue to take the knee, the vast majority of the fans will applaud or accept this decision . There is a tiny minority of people who will boo which just shows they have no respect for the England team | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. Treating people fairly and equally irrespective of race, gender or anything else is just about human decency and guck all to do with politics. The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics. That's their opinion to which they are 100% entitled, those booing assumably think it is a political gesture, an opinion they are also 100% entitled too. Opinions are free and for everyone, you or me dont get to say who can have one. Simple question for you , are people allowed to have a different opinion to you ? Wow. Just take a minute to read what you have said... The players are not giving an opinion as to why they are taking the knee. They have told us multiple times exactly the reason they are doing it. To protest against racism and intolerance in football. You however choose to think that they must be lying because you know what they are really taking the knee about. Really??? You were partly right - it is just an opinion, your opinion. And your opinion does not fit what the players have said on multiple occasions. Lying toe rags aren’t they huh??? Perhaps YOU should read what I wrote. The footballers are of the opinion that taking the knee is a non political gesture in support of anti racism, there are many who are of the opinion they are mistaken and that it is a political gesture, both are equally valid and arguments can be made for each view, in a free country all are allowed to have an opinion, just because you and I have a differnce over this doesnt make either right or wrong, where we differ is I accept both views you only want yours. " The people who are booing are not respecting the decision made by the England team, | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. Treating people fairly and equally irrespective of race, gender or anything else is just about human decency and guck all to do with politics. The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics. That's their opinion to which they are 100% entitled, those booing assumably think it is a political gesture, an opinion they are also 100% entitled too. Opinions are free and for everyone, you or me dont get to say who can have one. Simple question for you , are people allowed to have a different opinion to you ? Wow. Just take a minute to read what you have said... The players are not giving an opinion as to why they are taking the knee. They have told us multiple times exactly the reason they are doing it. To protest against racism and intolerance in football. You however choose to think that they must be lying because you know what they are really taking the knee about. Really??? You were partly right - it is just an opinion, your opinion. And your opinion does not fit what the players have said on multiple occasions. Lying toe rags aren’t they huh??? Perhaps YOU should read what I wrote. The footballers are of the opinion that taking the knee is a non political gesture in support of anti racism, there are many who are of the opinion they are mistaken and that it is a political gesture, both are equally valid and arguments can be made for each view, in a free country all are allowed to have an opinion, just because you and I have a differnce over this doesnt make either right or wrong, where we differ is I accept both views you only want yours. " How is equality, fairness and tolerance political? Did you only hear about the knee because of BLM? That’s the issue here I think. You don’t realise that taking the knee has been a gesture made by people who just want to be treated equally and has been going on for decades. Just because BLM have adopted the gesture, it does not diminish or take away its meaning. It is like saying that anyone who gives two thumbs up gestures is a Trump supporter. If you think that racial equality, tolerance and decency are political issues then you are wrong. If you only woke up in the last 12 months and so assume that taking the knee is only about BLM, you are wrong about that too. If the players explicitly state that their gesture is non political and is only about highlighting the issues of racism and intolerance in sport and you choose the disbelieve them, you are wrong again | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist?" Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
You really couldn't make this shit up."You did just make that up | |||
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"I hate what Southgate wrote. It’s so well-written that it makes me want England to do well in the tournament .
I am joking btw - I would happily see England win it, if here in a different footballing country, we wouldn’t have to endure the celebrations going on for 900 years too,
cefnogwyr pêl-droed cymru am annibyniaeth .... peidiwch â mynd â mi adref "Da iawn - cefnogwr o y tim eto, a mae’n diddordeb gyda fi yn annibyniaeth . | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? Gareth Southgate and the England team have decided as a group to continue to take the knee, the vast majority of the fans will applaud or accept this decision . There is a tiny minority of people who will boo which just shows they have no respect for the England team " Not surprisingly... there is a poll
YouGov polled Premier League fans on players taking the knee:
49% approved
41% disapproved
This isn't an emphatic endorsement of the gesture, and wouldn't support the statement that there is only a tiny minority who disagree with the use of the gesture. | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? Gareth Southgate and the England team have decided as a group to continue to take the knee, the vast majority of the fans will applaud or accept this decision . There is a tiny minority of people who will boo which just shows they have no respect for the England team Not surprisingly... there is a poll
YouGov polled Premier League fans on players taking the knee:
49% approved
41% disapproved
This isn't an emphatic endorsement of the gesture, and wouldn't support the statement that there is only a tiny minority who disagree with the use of the gesture."Do you think the 41% of those who disapproved would boo ? Or do you think the majority of them would accept and respect the decision of the England team? | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
You did just make that up "Raj Patel - "Food injustice has deep roots: let’s start with America’s apple pie" | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
You did just make that up
Raj Patel - "Food injustice has deep roots: let’s start with America’s apple pie""Where did he say ‘Apple pie is racist ‘ ? | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
You did just make that up
Raj Patel - "Food injustice has deep roots: let’s start with America’s apple pie"
Where did he say ‘Apple pie is racist ‘ ? "It's a metaphor our values. Not a food meaning. | |||
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" The players have said repeatedly why they make this 10-second gesture before the game and it is nothing to do the politics. That's their opinion to which they are 100% entitled, those booing assumably think it is a political gesture, an opinion they are also 100% entitled too. " That's such a ridiculous statement. If you walked into a room and somebody was kneeling down and you ask why are they kneeling,they then tell you why they are kneeling but you think you'd be 100% entitled to disagree with them and in return you tell them why they are kneeling 
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
You did just make that up "Nope Guardian columnist Raj Patel wrote it around a month ago. He thinks that apple pie was born from sl*very and colonialism. Be careful where you pour that custard. | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
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"after over a year of covid you are at the ground to support the team ... if you can't bring yourself to do that then don't take other peoples oppotunity of supporting the team by pretending to be a supporter. " Exactly, the people at the matches are very lucky, booing won’t help the team , pathetic really | |||
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"after over a year of covid you are at the ground to support the team ... if you can't bring yourself to do that then don't take other peoples oppotunity of supporting the team by pretending to be a supporter. Exactly, the people at the matches are very lucky, booing won’t help the team , pathetic really " It’s not pathetic,it’s their choice which they are fully entitled to | |||
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"after over a year of covid you are at the ground to support the team ... if you can't bring yourself to do that then don't take other peoples oppotunity of supporting the team by pretending to be a supporter. Exactly, the people at the matches are very lucky, booing won’t help the team , pathetic really It’s not pathetic,it’s their choice which they are fully entitled to" And its choice to label the racists Everyone is happy | |||
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"after over a year of covid you are at the ground to support the team ... if you can't bring yourself to do that then don't take other peoples oppotunity of supporting the team by pretending to be a supporter. Exactly, the people at the matches are very lucky, booing won’t help the team , pathetic really It’s not pathetic,it’s their choice which they are fully entitled to" It’s pathetic, support the team | |||
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"after over a year of covid you are at the ground to support the team ... if you can't bring yourself to do that then don't take other peoples oppotunity of supporting the team by pretending to be a supporter. Exactly, the people at the matches are very lucky, booing won’t help the team , pathetic really It’s not pathetic,it’s their choice which they are fully entitled to And its choice to label the racists Everyone is happy "Exactly, not everyone who is booing is racist but every racist will be booing | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy." | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression? Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd" This is about the Euros . Something the North American continent aret Involved in . Please try not to interupt . | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression? Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd This is about the Euros . Something the North American continent aret Involved in . Please try not to interupt ." Colin Kaepernick it started there unless Manchester united recruited him as a a QB. | |||
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"Any thoughts on the racist abuse John Barnes has been receiving today following an interview he was part of on Radio5Live? " Barnes is also extremely eloquent on the subject and recieved shocking abuse in his day | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression? Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd This is about the Euros . Something the North American continent aret Involved in . Please try not to interupt . Colin Kaepernick it started there unless Manchester united recruited him as a a QB. " Martin Luther King was photographed kneeling in 1965, there are probably thousands of other occasions even before that when people kneeled as a protest against racism and oppression. | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression? Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd This is about the Euros . Something the North American continent aret Involved in . Please try not to interupt . Colin Kaepernick it started there unless Manchester united recruited him as a a QB. Martin Luther King was photographed kneeling in 1965, there are probably thousands of other occasions even before that when people kneeled as a protest against racism and oppression. " if people want to bend there knee good on them and if people don’t want to that’s upto them I don’t get the problem why the fuck boo it’s just embarrassing them selves | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?" ….. but…. You know… the knee!!!!! 
People won’t listen… they will just find an excuse… or some reason to change the narrative!
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy." So still not read the open letter then….. | |||
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"if people profess to be non-racist then they would applaud the non-political act of sportspeople taking the knee at the start of a game " But……. But…… but…….. the knee! | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression?" They don’t want a violent action,, they want a peaceful one…. They don’t want a loud action… they want a quiet one… … but raising a fist is out! … and taking a knee is out! … and sitting down is out! … and writing something is out! So… they want something that can’t be heard… and can’t be seen…. Hmmm… toughie! It’s almost “like” they want the status quo… or it’s just so uncomfortable that they don’t want to believe it’s actually happening! | |||
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? Because said movement is a hard left anarchist movement who (among other things) has a policy to defund the police and it's about as transparent as a bowl of custard. I approve of BLM as a statement but will never support the movement. And you can like it or lump it. As long as the lumps are not in the custard of course. Oh BTW. According to the Guardian I notice that apple pie is now deemed to be racist, especially when photographed on gingham cloth.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
You did just make that up
Nope Guardian columnist Raj Patel wrote it around a month ago.
He thinks that apple pie was born from sl*very and colonialism.
Be careful where you pour that custard.
Where did he say that ‘Apple pie is racist ‘ ? "So he didn't use the specific word. However if you don't think that he actually meant that then you would have to concede that colonialism and sl*very were not racist. You can't have it both ways. With or without custard. | |||
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"if the so-called supporters continue their racist politcal demonstration of booing the players, then they should be banned from all football matches." Don’t even dare UEFA to do something like that… this is the organisation that fined Spain 20k euros for monkey chants by Spanish supporters against English players …. But fined Nicklaus Bendtner 100k for wearing paddy power pants! Anyway I think the answer to this is a strongly worded 26 person petition… I mean, THAT will hit home!… heck don’t even put “dear sir or madam” on it! That will teach the bastards! | |||
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"A Fan who booed v James O'Brien .
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"Booing per se, isn’t racist. But why are you booing a movement that brings light to racism if you aren’t a racist? It isnt the racial aspect that's the problem, I'm 100% against discrimination, the issue is blm is a political organisation, their aims are in the public domain that is why imvho the players shouldn't support blm, others are fully entitled to disagree but as we live in a free country with freedom of speech those that say kneeling is political statement are allowed to boo the kneeling. Perhaps we could all agree that a new symbol such as a hand on heart to support inclusion and equality could be used,no politics involved and both sides could be happy. I don’t think the issue is the gesture because historically 1. 1968 Tommie Smith and Juan Carlos raised their fist. They were expelled from the olympics 2a. In April 2016 Colin Kapernick tweeted about Philando Castile, and was told to stay out of it 2b. In July 2016 Colin Kapernick sat down during the anthem. He was told this was disrespectful to the military. 2c. In August 2016 he began to kneel as advised by former green beret Nate Boyer, again people said he didn’t know what he was talking about 3. In June 2020 footballers decided to tale a knee in solidarity with fighting racial oppression. So after all different types of talk and gestures, when is society going to stop telling people that they should not complain about their oppression, and their gesture must be a friendly one? After all the various talks and gestures, maybe the issue isn’t with the talk or the gesture, but in-fact with people peacefully demonstrating against their oppression? Then why does all these demonstrations and gestures only matter when there is elections. Surely every election divides people. The divide and conquer technique. Odd This is about the Euros . Something the North American continent aret Involved in . Please try not to interupt . Colin Kaepernick it started there unless Manchester united recruited him as a a QB. Martin Luther King was photographed kneeling in 1965, there are probably thousands of other occasions even before that when people kneeled as a protest against racism and oppression. if people want to bend there knee good on them and if people don’t want to that’s upto them I don’t get the problem why the fuck boo it’s just embarrassing them selves " | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither." free speech is only for people smarter than you that know best... its only for people with good ideas not your rubbish ones.... jeez... before long everyone will have a fucking opinion or an idea! and then what? tell me that ay!!!! | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? " on here yes very uncomfortable evening listening to this moron blathering on needless to say declined play | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? on here yes very uncomfortable evening listening to this moron blathering on needless to say declined play " Didnt know Farage was on here? | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? " Yes they boo, can't kneel down and hate france! | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... " Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! | |||
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"What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division. Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team. Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree? I'm sure you know what that is about but no one else has a clue https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-gareth-southgate-euros-soccer Thanks can guess what it's about now. Were the fans booing the players per se or the political statements made by them, so it's ok for them to make a statement on blm by kneeling but not ok for the fans to show their disapproval of putting politics in sport, you either have free speech on both sides of the debate or on neither. free speech is only for people smarter than you that know best... its only for people with good ideas not your rubbish ones.... jeez... before long everyone will have a fucking opinion or an idea! and then what? tell me that ay!!!! " Blimey cant believe this thread is still going, the intolerance of the tolerant is rife that's for sure. | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! " Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! " Funny I served with plenty of UK troops so did hubby. Everyone was protective of their brothers did not matter what race religion or sexual preference. If the person next to you has got your 6 in a firefight well it's the integrity of that person that matters. Religion race and sexual preference goes out the window in life and death situations. | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! " You know everyone in the Army? Wow | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! You know everyone in the Army? Wow " Now now I love you calm down you know that a Sargent Major would have stomped the guts out of a racist. | |||
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"So funny watching the racists on here trying to defend the racists booing in the stands as though its some kind of principled stance to keep politics out of the stadium. Those very same people will be furious when they hear the England fans singing about "Two World wars and one world cup" and "No surrender to the IRA". The booing will be deafening. Oh wait.... seems its not politics in the stadium they're worried about and they're just racists. Wearing the poppy is a political statement. I assume you'd all support fans booing that too?" Poppies represent rememberance and a peaceful future. | |||
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"So funny watching the racists on here trying to defend the racists booing in the stands as though its some kind of principled stance to keep politics out of the stadium. Those very same people will be furious when they hear the England fans singing about "Two World wars and one world cup" and "No surrender to the IRA". The booing will be deafening. Oh wait.... seems its not politics in the stadium they're worried about and they're just racists. Wearing the poppy is a political statement. I assume you'd all support fans booing that too? Poppies represent rememberance and a peaceful future. "But they mean that… to you… and that is the point Regardless of how many times you are told otherwise… or people shoehorn another narrative to it to fit a purpose… See… what you by the person doing/wearing said symbol doesn’t matter … you have alternative reasoning and you are right Now where have I heard that…. Oh… in this thread! | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! Funny I served with plenty of UK troops so did hubby. Everyone was protective of their brothers did not matter what race religion or sexual preference. If the person next to you has got your 6 in a firefight well it's the integrity of that person that matters. Religion race and sexual preference goes out the window in life and death situations." You Served ? I'd NEVER HAVE KNOWN . IF IT WASNT THE MILLIONTH TIME You'd told us . | |||
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"So excuse me when I see someone kneeling just to make a political point during the anthem. I remember all. No racism no sexual preference no religion. People that died for all. But we get labeled as fascists.and racists. I am fine with that it's the coffins comming home with the flag draped over it that matters to me. Coffins and flags all the same color. No race no religion No sexual preference. Just somber and sorrow. But call me a racist I do not know the termanology. They all look the same to me." | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? There have been several high profile racist bullying court cases over here. To pretend racism doesnt exist in the British armed forces is a bit naive Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! Funny I served with plenty of UK troops so did hubby. Everyone was protective of their brothers did not matter what race religion or sexual preference. If the person next to you has got your 6 in a firefight well it's the integrity of that person that matters. Religion race and sexual preference goes out the window in life and death situations." | |||
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"So funny watching the racists on here trying to defend the racists booing in the stands as though its some kind of principled stance to keep politics out of the stadium. Those very same people will be furious when they hear the England fans singing about "Two World wars and one world cup" and "No surrender to the IRA". The booing will be deafening. Oh wait.... seems its not politics in the stadium they're worried about and they're just racists. Wearing the poppy is a political statement. I assume you'd all support fans booing that too?" They obvs choose what to offended by..which is highly ironic. | |||
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"The irony of this being debated on a swingers site always makes me smile. So, if you do not support BLM or if you boo taking the knee, or voted Brexit - you are a racist? Has anyone ever met a racist? Yup I was in the Army for 10 years, so yes, plenty... Really! Ive known plenty of forces personnel and no racists! Obviously "plenty" is not all. It also depends on which regiment/Corp they are from. For example the household regiments have a much higher ratio! You know everyone in the Army? Wow Now now I love you calm down you know that a Sargent Major would have stomped the guts out of a racist. "https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/05/i-guarded-royal-palaces-ban-on-black-staff-britains-first-black-guardsman | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice." I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. | |||
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"For me, taking the knee, whilst it was a powerful statement, I feel like it has now lost that and is seen by many as being mixed up with BLM, making it the political statement many people argue. However, booing those who choose to take the knee actually has the opposite effect that those booing are trying to gain. If I chose to do something and there was adverse reactions to it, I would do it even more. So, whilst I don't take the knee and never would. Nor do I wear a poppy. I do believe that it's everyone's right to choose to do so. That does also mean it's the right of those booing to do so too though. Pointless and ineffective. Making themselves look like fools, but still their right." Cant actually disagree with much of that. If you dont agree with taking the knee for whatever reason, that's your prerogative. But if you boo an anti racist gesture,which The players want to do,dont expect much sympathy. As for the political point,international games in particular have always had those nationalistic overtones(remember those whoppers dressed as bomber Harris),and as rightly said before, they have been singing no surrender and 2 world cups for years, and mo one has batted an eye lid. | |||
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"For me, taking the knee, whilst it was a powerful statement, I feel like it has now lost that and is seen by many as being mixed up with BLM, making it the political statement many people argue. However, booing those who choose to take the knee actually has the opposite effect that those booing are trying to gain. If I chose to do something and there was adverse reactions to it, I would do it even more. So, whilst I don't take the knee and never would. Nor do I wear a poppy. I do believe that it's everyone's right to choose to do so. That does also mean it's the right of those booing to do so too though. Pointless and ineffective. Making themselves look like fools, but still their right. Cant actually disagree with much of that. If you dont agree with taking the knee for whatever reason, that's your prerogative. But if you boo an anti racist gesture,which The players want to do,dont expect much sympathy. As for the political point,international games in particular have always had those nationalistic overtones(remember those whoppers dressed as bomber Harris),and as rightly said before, they have been singing no surrender and 2 world cups for years, and mo one has batted an eye lid." I'd agree international matches have always had that tone to it. People from every country are nationalistic. Did you hear the boos in the Hungary vs Ireland match. Much much louder | |||
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"So excuse me when I see someone kneeling just to make a political point during the anthem. I remember all. No racism no sexual preference no religion. People that died for all. But we get labeled as fascists.and racists. I am fine with that it's the coffins comming home with the flag draped over it that matters to me. Coffins and flags all the same color. No race no religion No sexual preference. Just somber and sorrow. But call me a racist I do not know the termanology. They all look the same to me." But a million times you were told by Colin kaepernick that the gesture (of which there were two.. because originally he just sat at the back for weeks and no one had noticed until one reporter actually did and asked why) was to stand up for police injustice and brutality… and he felt he wasn’t proud enough of the country to stand…. So it was police injustice and brutality… nothing more You decided not to believe him… you have decided to carry another narrative that never came from him… That is not on him if you are not listening to what he actually said…. | |||
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"For me, taking the knee, whilst it was a powerful statement, I feel like it has now lost that and is seen by many as being mixed up with BLM, making it the political statement many people argue. However, booing those who choose to take the knee actually has the opposite effect that those booing are trying to gain. If I chose to do something and there was adverse reactions to it, I would do it even more. So, whilst I don't take the knee and never would. Nor do I wear a poppy. I do believe that it's everyone's right to choose to do so. That does also mean it's the right of those booing to do so too though. Pointless and ineffective. Making themselves look like fools, but still their right. Cant actually disagree with much of that. If you dont agree with taking the knee for whatever reason, that's your prerogative. But if you boo an anti racist gesture,which The players want to do,dont expect much sympathy. As for the political point,international games in particular have always had those nationalistic overtones(remember those whoppers dressed as bomber Harris),and as rightly said before, they have been singing no surrender and 2 world cups for years, and mo one has batted an eye lid. I'd agree international matches have always had that tone to it. People from every country are nationalistic. Did you hear the boos in the Hungary vs Ireland match. Much much louder" Eastern Europe is probally where we were in the 80s. | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue." Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. " You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? | |||
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"The majority of people in England are conservative and nationalist in outlook and intolerant or deeply suspicious of any kind of protest which questions the society they operate in or seeks to change their thinking or behaviour. This view is reflected in the views of The Daily Mail or The Sun which still represents the most accurate portrayal of the silent majority in the country. " | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. " Sweeping statements and prejudice. Isn't that exactly what you are accusing the "deranged left" of? I think you would need to search very hard to find somewhere in these forums someone saying that wearing a poppy is racist. If there is even one instance of it. The point being made is that some people interpret wearing of the poppy as being a rather nationalist act, that glorifies war. Now, as you have pointed out, that is not your intent at all, and is probably not the intent of the majority of wearers. As has similarly been pointed out the taking of the knee is viewed, by those doing it, as a statement about racism. For others to then say it is a far-left, marxist act, is just as disingenuous as those saying poppy wearing is glorifying war. | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. Sweeping statements and prejudice. Isn't that exactly what you are accusing the "deranged left" of? I think you would need to search very hard to find somewhere in these forums someone saying that wearing a poppy is racist. If there is even one instance of it. The point being made is that some people interpret wearing of the poppy as being a rather nationalist act, that glorifies war. Now, as you have pointed out, that is not your intent at all, and is probably not the intent of the majority of wearers. As has similarly been pointed out the taking of the knee is viewed, by those doing it, as a statement about racism. For others to then say it is a far-left, marxist act, is just as disingenuous as those saying poppy wearing is glorifying war." Excellently put | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night?" Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.  | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned. "I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh | |||
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"I wonder how things might pan out if the gesture was made open for fans to join in? For example, it it were a gesture of “standing up to racism.” The people who are currently booing would have an opportunity to demonstrate their anti-political AND anti-racist credentials by literally “standing” up to racism along with the players. I wonder what excuses those who choose to stay seated would give not to join in?" I think you wud see most fans take the knee tbf | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. Sweeping statements and prejudice. Isn't that exactly what you are accusing the "deranged left" of? I think you would need to search very hard to find somewhere in these forums someone saying that wearing a poppy is racist. If there is even one instance of it. The point being made is that some people interpret wearing of the poppy as being a rather nationalist act, that glorifies war. Now, as you have pointed out, that is not your intent at all, and is probably not the intent of the majority of wearers. As has similarly been pointed out the taking of the knee is viewed, by those doing it, as a statement about racism. For others to then say it is a far-left, marxist act, is just as disingenuous as those saying poppy wearing is glorifying war." Personally I think anyone that thinks wearing a poppy glorifies war needs to give there head a wobble and maybe educate themselves a little. To wear the poppy is to remember the sacrifice of the fallen not to glorify war in anyway. | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. Sweeping statements and prejudice. Isn't that exactly what you are accusing the "deranged left" of? I think you would need to search very hard to find somewhere in these forums someone saying that wearing a poppy is racist. If there is even one instance of it. The point being made is that some people interpret wearing of the poppy as being a rather nationalist act, that glorifies war. Now, as you have pointed out, that is not your intent at all, and is probably not the intent of the majority of wearers. As has similarly been pointed out the taking of the knee is viewed, by those doing it, as a statement about racism. For others to then say it is a far-left, marxist act, is just as disingenuous as those saying poppy wearing is glorifying war. Personally I think anyone that thinks wearing a poppy glorifies war needs to give there head a wobble and maybe educate themselves a little. To wear the poppy is to remember the sacrifice of the fallen not to glorify war in anyway." Maybe they just have a different opinion? | |||
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"It's funny how no one is accusing people of wearing a poppy of anything, certainly not facicts as incorrectly named above Yet those who choose not to wear one,for whatever reason, are far left nutters,marxists or need to educate themselves. I don't wear one and I certainly dont need to educate myself." I never said anything about fascists or anything else Lionel, that must have been someone else. And yes people are entitled to their own opinion of course although I am ashamed to think people feel it glorifies war by wearing one and I would imagine many would be turning in there graves to think that the symbol of wearing a poppy should represent this after the hell that many went through so that we can enjoy the freedoms we have today. The reason I said educate is because if people feel that's what a poppy represents then in my opinion they have got things well and truly twisted. But these are my opinions and each to there own, but I feel sorry for the members of my family that gave there lives in service if thats how some people now feel about it, sad day in my opinion but there you go. | |||
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"It's funny how no one is accusing people of wearing a poppy of anything, certainly not facicts as incorrectly named above Yet those who choose not to wear one,for whatever reason, are far left nutters,marxists or need to educate themselves. I don't wear one and I certainly dont need to educate myself. I never said anything about fascists or anything else Lionel, that must have been someone else. And yes people are entitled to their own opinion of course although I am ashamed to think people feel it glorifies war by wearing one and I would imagine many would be turning in there graves to think that the symbol of wearing a poppy should represent this after the hell that many went through so that we can enjoy the freedoms we have today. The reason I said educate is because if people feel that's what a poppy represents then in my opinion they have got things well and truly twisted. But these are my opinions and each to there own, but I feel sorry for the members of my family that gave there lives in service if thats how some people now feel about it, sad day in my opinion but there you go." Sorry..the fascist shout wasnt aimed at you,it was mentioned early on in the thread. People should be able to choose to wear a poppy or not. I dont wear one but I have nothing for respect and sadness for that generation of young men we lost, from all countries. Sadly expressing this view often results in howls of outrage that you are disrespecting the dead. And this is where the political aspect comes in. If you appear on the bbc ,you have to wear one,they even stuck one on Grover from seaseme street. | |||
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"And sorry I've got to say,ww1 was nothing to do with protecting freedom." On this one I agree mate. | |||
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"And sorry I've got to say,ww1 was nothing to do with protecting freedom." I suspect the french thought it was, | |||
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"Very fortuitous https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20210610-uefa-demands-ukraine-remove-political-slogan-from-euro-2020-jersey?ref=tw_i " Was it a map on their shirt ?? | |||
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"UEFA said the map was not a concern given it reflected U.N.-recognised borders, nor was the phrase "Glory to Ukraine".
But it ordered the removal of the second phrase, given the "specific combination of the two slogans is deemed to be clearly political in nature, having historic and militaristic significance", a UEFA statement said."
The second slogan being "Glory to the heroes" printed on the inside of the shirt...
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"Would it be churlish to point out at this time it was the marxists and the left who were fighting facism in the 30s in Spain and here against the black shirts,whilst the right saw communism as a much greater evil than facism? It was also Marxists who made a decisive difference in the war against Hitler." Only after Hitler ratted on them. Before that they were bosom buddies carving up Poland between them. | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
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"It's funny how no one is accusing people of wearing a poppy of anything, certainly not facicts as incorrectly named above Yet those who choose not to wear one,for whatever reason, are far left nutters,marxists or need to educate themselves. I don't wear one and I certainly dont need to educate myself." why am I not suprised that you don’t wear a poppy Lionel pmsl | |||
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"Would it be churlish to point out at this time it was the marxists and the left who were fighting facism in the 30s in Spain and here against the black shirts,whilst the right saw communism as a much greater evil than facism? It was also Marxists who made a decisive difference in the war against Hitler. Only after Hitler ratted on them. Before that they were bosom buddies carving up Poland between them." Well if anyone can give out lectures on colonialism,its the English. Saying that the upper classes were also partial to a spot of facism, remind me again,how many right wing groups went out to fight franco? | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole. "You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. Sweeping statements and prejudice. Isn't that exactly what you are accusing the "deranged left" of? I think you would need to search very hard to find somewhere in these forums someone saying that wearing a poppy is racist. If there is even one instance of it. The point being made is that some people interpret wearing of the poppy as being a rather nationalist act, that glorifies war. Now, as you have pointed out, that is not your intent at all, and is probably not the intent of the majority of wearers. As has similarly been pointed out the taking of the knee is viewed, by those doing it, as a statement about racism. For others to then say it is a far-left, marxist act, is just as disingenuous as those saying poppy wearing is glorifying war. Personally I think anyone that thinks wearing a poppy glorifies war needs to give there head a wobble and maybe educate themselves a little. To wear the poppy is to remember the sacrifice of the fallen not to glorify war in anyway." | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you "and it must be hell on earth for you fab lol | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you and it must be hell on earth for you fab lol"Not at all, it is great living in my area, | |||
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"Would it be churlish to point out at this time it was the marxists and the left who were fighting facism in the 30s in Spain and here against the black shirts,whilst the right saw communism as a much greater evil than facism? It was also Marxists who made a decisive difference in the war against Hitler. Only after Hitler ratted on them. Before that they were bosom buddies carving up Poland between them. Well if anyone can give out lectures on colonialism,its the English. Saying that the upper classes were also partial to a spot of facism, remind me again,how many right wing groups went out to fight franco?" I suppose the same as the number of left wingers who went to fight Pol Pot among others.  | |||
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"Would it be churlish to point out at this time it was the marxists and the left who were fighting facism in the 30s in Spain and here against the black shirts,whilst the right saw communism as a much greater evil than facism? It was also Marxists who made a decisive difference in the war against Hitler. Only after Hitler ratted on them. Before that they were bosom buddies carving up Poland between them. Well if anyone can give out lectures on colonialism,its the English. Saying that the upper classes were also partial to a spot of facism, remind me again,how many right wing groups went out to fight franco? I suppose the same as the number of left wingers who went to fight Pol Pot among others. "That's almost surreally irrelevant to the point being made. Hats off | |||
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"Would it be churlish to point out at this time it was the marxists and the left who were fighting facism in the 30s in Spain and here against the black shirts,whilst the right saw communism as a much greater evil than facism? It was also Marxists who made a decisive difference in the war against Hitler. Only after Hitler ratted on them. Before that they were bosom buddies carving up Poland between them. Well if anyone can give out lectures on colonialism,its the English. Saying that the upper classes were also partial to a spot of facism, remind me again,how many right wing groups went out to fight franco? I suppose the same as the number of left wingers who went to fight Pol Pot among others.
That's almost surreally irrelevant to the point being made.
Hats off
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you "You must be bloody joking. Every time I visit that hell hole I count the days until I can return to civilisation. BTW I haven't been back since Brexit. Tory government? Bloody hell two good jokes in one post. Britain hasn't had a proper Tory government since Mrs T went. Boris's lot are just a bunch of Blairites in disguise. When I left the UK the Blair creature was PM. Brexit or no Brexit. Life is far too good for me to want to return to all that shit. So, a quick dip in the pool now then off to a very nice tapa's bar down the road. Ensalada Atun followed by Albondigas con Patatas Bravas I think tonight.
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you
You must be bloody joking.
Every time I visit that hell hole I count the days until I can return to civilisation.
BTW I haven't been back since Brexit.
Tory government?
Bloody hell two good jokes in one post.
Britain hasn't had a proper Tory government since Mrs T went.
Boris's lot are just a bunch of Blairites in disguise.
When I left the UK the Blair creature was PM.
Brexit or no Brexit. Life is far too good for me to want to return to all that shit.
So, a quick dip in the pool now then off to a very nice tapa's bar down the road.
Ensalada Atun followed by Albondigas con Patatas Bravas I think tonight.
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you
You must be bloody joking.
Every time I visit that hell hole I count the days until I can return to civilisation.
BTW I haven't been back since Brexit.
Tory government?
Bloody hell two good jokes in one post.
Britain hasn't had a proper Tory government since Mrs T went.
Boris's lot are just a bunch of Blairites in disguise.
When I left the UK the Blair creature was PM.
Brexit or no Brexit. Life is far too good for me to want to return to all that shit.
So, a quick dip in the pool now then off to a very nice tapa's bar down the road.
Ensalada Atun followed by Albondigas con Patatas Bravas I think tonight.
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So you hate Britain? Fair enough "going by some posts on here I don’t think there the only ones tbf | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you
You must be bloody joking.
Every time I visit that hell hole I count the days until I can return to civilisation.
BTW I haven't been back since Brexit.
Tory government?
Bloody hell two good jokes in one post.
Britain hasn't had a proper Tory government since Mrs T went.
Boris's lot are just a bunch of Blairites in disguise.
When I left the UK the Blair creature was PM.
Brexit or no Brexit. Life is far too good for me to want to return to all that shit.
So, a quick dip in the pool now then off to a very nice tapa's bar down the road.
Ensalada Atun followed by Albondigas con Patatas Bravas I think tonight.
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So you hate Britain? Fair enough going by some posts on here I don’t think there the only ones tbf "I have more regional pride than national pride, | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. " Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase? | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?" I thought that taking the knee was about supporting a bunch of hard left anarchists. | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?" Racism is racism. Only a true bigot would differentiate. | |||
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"Its also a bit weird that anti semtism is shoehorned into every thread but a report finding Deep.seated islsmsphobia in the gmnt was largely ignored? Its almost like people pick and choose what to get offended by." like you lol | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase? Racism is racism. Only a true bigot would differentiate." Right..so everyone who takes the knee is a bigot. That's good to know | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase? I thought that taking the knee was about supporting a bunch of hard left anarchists." Someone should tell Jordan Henderson he is a hard left anarchist | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase? Racism is racism. Only a true bigot would differentiate. Right..so everyone who takes the knee is a bigot. That's good to know" Where did I say that? Stop making stuff up boy. Just kneel when you're told to, that should be a simple enough instruction, even for you | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase? I thought that taking the knee was about supporting a bunch of hard left anarchists." I thought that only racist and bigots boo players who take the knee | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. " Why do you think there is such an increase? | |||
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"Major difference war dead the ones defending everyone that paid the sacrifice for the betterment of mankind. For everyone not a particular color. So you saying my black brothers and sisters that perished for western value are not worth the rememberance. Kneeling brings attention to 1 not all. But let's forget about those just to fit a agenda instead of the betterment of all. No comparison. These people had honor and integrity to sacrafice. I'm not sure ww1 battered mankind tbh. The poppy has become,in recent years at least, a political issue. Only since the British hating far left turned it into one. I wear my poppy every year (yes even in Germany) I wear it for my father WW2 Royal Navy. My two uncles WW2 Royal Airforce. My stepfather also WW2 RAF. My great uncle, killed and never found in the mud at Passchendaele. I also wear it for all the service personnel who put their lives on the line to preserve the freedom that we take for granted. And yes, including all of those from the commonwealth. If in the eyes of the deranged left that makes me a racist then I couldn't care less and will wear that poppy with pride. You really are obsessed with the left arent you? Do they keep you awake at night? Judging by the number of forum posts in this section then obviously not as obsessed as you are about promoting it. BTW. Have you ever posted anything that is even remotely connected to swinging? Seems to me that you spend your entire day camped out in the politics section. Don't worry, you have plenty of time to think about your pithy answer. I'm off back into the real world now. Breakfast to be eaten then pool to be cleaned.
I find it much more enjoyable to wind up daily mail readers tbh
Personally I think it's the other way around.
Every time the Daily Mail is mentioned on here it's the lefties who start frothing at the mouth.
I only occasionally read it but maybe I should do so more often.
I could call it my personal job creation scheme for the lefties on here.
Give them something else to do rather than blathering on about knobbly knees and which flower you should put in your buttonhole.
You should move back to the UK, we have a Tory government, out of the EU, must sound like utopia to you
You must be bloody joking.
Every time I visit that hell hole I count the days until I can return to civilisation.
BTW I haven't been back since Brexit.
Tory government?
Bloody hell two good jokes in one post.
Britain hasn't had a proper Tory government since Mrs T went.
Boris's lot are just a bunch of Blairites in disguise.
When I left the UK the Blair creature was PM.
Brexit or no Brexit. Life is far too good for me to want to return to all that shit.
So, a quick dip in the pool now then off to a very nice tapa's bar down the road.
Ensalada Atun followed by Albondigas con Patatas Bravas I think tonight.
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So you hate Britain? Fair enough going by some posts on here I don’t think there the only ones tbf
I have more regional pride than national pride, "do you have national pride like ? | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?" why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ?" I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm. | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm." I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types " I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest. | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest." America and Europe so racist that non Americans and non Europeans keep trying to get in eh... | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest.America and Europe so racist that non Americans and non Europeans keep trying to get in eh..." No idea what that means | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest.America and Europe so racist that non Americans and non Europeans keep trying to get in eh... No idea what that means " We know you don't lol read it slower see if it helps, do it on one knee, both knees, hands and knees.... | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest.America and Europe so racist that non Americans and non Europeans keep trying to get in eh..." Just trying to get there stolen property back innit | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest.America and Europe so racist that non Americans and non Europeans keep trying to get in eh... No idea what that means We know you don't lol read it slower see if it helps, do it on one knee, both knees, hands and knees.... " between you and me....i think he does know what it means. | |||
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"it's about morals not politics despite the usual racists attempts to alter the knee taking merely to suit their racist narrative With anti-semitic racism on the increase by some 320% in the UK, it is only fitting that all the English players kneel in apology for this and all racism. Isnt taking the knee about black racism? Do you have a source for this 300%increase?why just black racism ? Isn’t all racism bad ? I.didnt say it wasnt. I just thought the talking the knee was specifically a protest against racism against black pool as its associated with blm.I just thought racism is racism didn’t know there was different types I didn't say there were different types of racism We were specifically talking about the taking the knee protest.America and Europe so racist that non Americans and non Europeans keep trying to get in eh... Just trying to get there stolen property back innit " and who did they steal it from before that. | |||
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