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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man 2 weeks ago

#funspongesarefun ;)

OP: "What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division.

Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team.

Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?"

Friday 18th June will offer some interesting points for discussion:

"Scotland players will “stand up to racism” at Euro 2020 rather than take the knee before matches. ... A statement from the Scottish Football Association read: “The squad, coaching staff and backroom members will stand up to racism ahead of the Group D matches against Czech Republic, England and Croatia."

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"OP: "What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division.

Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team.

Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?"

Friday 18th June will offer some interesting points for discussion:

"Scotland players will “stand up to racism” at Euro 2020 rather than take the knee before matches. ... A statement from the Scottish Football Association read: “The squad, coaching staff and backroom members will stand up to racism ahead of the Group D matches against Czech Republic, England and Croatia."

"

Their decision, I am sure the Scottish fans will respect that

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man 2 weeks ago

#funspongesarefun ;)

I particularly like the approach the SFA have taken in reinforcing the positive message.

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"OP: "What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division.

Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team.

Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?"

Friday 18th June will offer some interesting points for discussion:

"Scotland players will “stand up to racism” at Euro 2020 rather than take the knee before matches. ... A statement from the Scottish Football Association read: “The squad, coaching staff and backroom members will stand up to racism ahead of the Group D matches against Czech Republic, England and Croatia."

Their decision, I am sure the Scottish fans will respect that "

I dunno, if someone is standing, are they definitely standing upto racism? They might just be... Standing.

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"I particularly like the approach the SFA have taken in reinforcing the positive message.

"

I respect the decision the Scottish team have made, just like I respect the decision the England team have made

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By *ercuryMan 2 weeks ago

Grantham

I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

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By *eanoCoolMan 2 weeks ago

wisbech


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

"

Personally think that's a really good idea

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

Personally think that's a really good idea "

Racists would still boo

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By *eanoCoolMan 2 weeks ago

wisbech


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

Personally think that's a really good idea

Racists would still boo "

Well yeah they would but I really dont know how you can stop them to be honest unfortunately.

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By *ebjonnsonMan 2 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Do any black England fans boo the taking of the knee? Or is it restricted to white racists?

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple 2 weeks ago

Suck my strap on


"Do any black England fans boo the taking of the knee? Or is it restricted to white racists? "
So racism only applies to white people

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"Do any black England fans boo the taking of the knee? Or is it restricted to white racists? So racism only applies to white people "

Who said that?

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man 2 weeks ago

#funspongesarefun ;)


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

Personally think that's a really good idea

Racists would still boo "

There is an example which proves this to be wrong

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

Personally think that's a really good idea

Racists would still boo

Well yeah they would but I really dont know how you can stop them to be honest unfortunately."

True,

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By *ionelhutzMan 2 weeks ago

liverpool


"Do any black England fans boo the taking of the knee? Or is it restricted to white racists? So racism only applies to white people

Who said that? "

No one.

Its just repeated on a daily basis.

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"Do any black England fans boo the taking of the knee? Or is it restricted to white racists? So racism only applies to white people

Who said that?

No one.

Its just repeated on a daily basis.

"

Deflection or confusion, or probably both

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By *ionelhutzMan 2 weeks ago

liverpool

Who cares.?

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man 2 weeks ago

#funspongesarefun ;)

“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

"

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision "

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

"

Yeah… like we haven’t seen this one before… spoiler.. we have!

This is the same UEFA that fined Macedonia 16k for abuse, Spain 26k for monkey chants… but Nicklaus bendtner 100k for wearing paddy power pants!

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

Yeah… like we haven’t seen this one before… spoiler.. we have!

This is the same UEFA that fined Macedonia 16k for abuse, Spain 26k for monkey chants… but Nicklaus bendtner 100k for wearing paddy power pants! "

says it all about eufa needs replacing badly

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision "

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man 2 weeks ago

#funspongesarefun ;)


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision "

Which decision, the first one or the second one?

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By *inglenottsMan 2 weeks ago

Derby


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas."

Is that because they got bored of -

Martin luther king

Malcolm x

Muhammad ali

John carlos

Raheem sterling

Paul ince

Anton ferdinand?

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas."

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Is that because they got bored of -

Martin luther king

Malcolm x

Muhammad ali

John carlos

Raheem sterling

Paul ince

Anton ferdinand?

"

Not sure if it's deliberate, but there's some pretty far out names on that list, who were very much against equality, social justice etc etc.

Great sportsman, but Ali was as racist and misogynistic as they come.

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???"

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan 2 weeks ago

Princes Risborough


"I would like each team, to parade a UEFA endorsed anti-racism banner around the ground at each match.

No mixed messaging then.

"

that would be great. it makes no difference if they parade it before or after they take the knee, it would be great either way.

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By *inglenottsMan 2 weeks ago

Derby


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Is that because they got bored of -

Martin luther king

Malcolm x

Muhammad ali

John carlos

Raheem sterling

Paul ince

Anton ferdinand?

Not sure if it's deliberate, but there's some pretty far out names on that list, who were very much against equality, social justice etc etc.

Great sportsman, but Ali was as racist and misogynistic as they come.

"

Ali did change later in old age, he renounced his nation of islam beliefs and then became a mainstream muslim.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan 2 weeks ago

Princes Risborough

update ....

Scotland had said on Thursday that they would continue standing in solidarity against racism during the tournament but the reaction has prompted a partial rethink.

“In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group,” the head coach, Steve Clarke, said.

“We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance.”

Scotland’s captain, Andy Robertson, said: “The Scotland team stands against racism but we will kneel against ignorance and in solidarity on June 18th.”

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By *inglenottsMan 2 weeks ago

Derby


"

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread. "

so seeing you, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why do you not try to change the situation for the better? Particularly seeing you have a level of inteligence few have, espsecially seeing you could go down the shop and buy more than a loaf of bread?

Or are you happy with it the way it is and don't see a need to address racial and social equality?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan 2 weeks ago

Princes Risborough


"update ....

Scotland had said on Thursday that they would continue standing in solidarity against racism during the tournament but the reaction has prompted a partial rethink.

“In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group,” the head coach, Steve Clarke, said.

“We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance.”

Scotland’s captain, Andy Robertson, said: “The Scotland team stands against racism but we will kneel against ignorance and in solidarity on June 18th.”

"

it seems that the more that the racists lose their shit, the more sportspeople decide to kneel in solidarity defience of the racist's mixed message and devisive booing

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

so seeing you, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why do you not try to change the situation for the better? Particularly seeing you have a level of inteligence few have, espsecially seeing you could go down the shop and buy more than a loaf of bread?

Or are you happy with it the way it is and don't see a need to address racial and social equality?"

Ah but I do.

I do an immense amount of (unsung) good for my fellow citizens of the world.

Which, again, makes it even more laughably pathetic to be lectured to.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan 2 weeks ago

Princes Risborough

Wales will also take the knee on saturday in solidarity and in defiance of the racist booers attempts at dividing britain.

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By *inglenottsMan 2 weeks ago

Derby


"

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

so seeing you, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why do you not try to change the situation for the better? Particularly seeing you have a level of inteligence few have, espsecially seeing you could go down the shop and buy more than a loaf of bread?

Or are you happy with it the way it is and don't see a need to address racial and social equality?

Ah but I do.

I do an immense amount of (unsung) good for my fellow citizens of the world.

Which, again, makes it even more laughably pathetic to be lectured to. "

Don’t people who do good, not care how many times they hear the lecture, as (in this specific case) i would happily be lectured till the end of time if it meant the end of racism?

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread. "

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

so seeing you, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why do you not try to change the situation for the better? Particularly seeing you have a level of inteligence few have, espsecially seeing you could go down the shop and buy more than a loaf of bread?

Or are you happy with it the way it is and don't see a need to address racial and social equality?

Ah but I do.

I do an immense amount of (unsung) good for my fellow citizens of the world.

Which, again, makes it even more laughably pathetic to be lectured to.

Don’t people who do good, not care how many times they hear the lecture, as (in this specific case) i would happily be lectured till the end of time if it meant the end of racism?"

I don't think you could stand it, no.

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……"

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks. "

Would you boo the England team for taking the knee?

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks. "

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple 2 weeks ago

Suck my strap on


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!"

Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

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By *inglenottsMan 2 weeks ago

Derby


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ..."

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan 2 weeks ago

Princes Risborough

hardly surprising that the far righty fabbers are queuing up to stand with Dr Thomas Stowell the royal/freemasonry conspiracy theorist

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

"

Autocorrect, you can check my previous posts on him if you want.

Or you could address the issues.

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

Autocorrect, you can check my previous posts on him if you want.

Or you could address the issues. "

See.. I just asked a simple question… which was did you actually read the “Dear England” open letter to which you are skirting around it and steering it elsewhere…

All I asked is what part of the text in the letter do you fundamentally disagree with!

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"“ Steve Clarke

I am aware that some individuals and groups have sought to politicise or misrepresent the Scotland National Team position on taking a stand against racism and all forms of discriminatory behaviour in our UEFA EURO 2020 matches and, in particular, for our visit to Wembley.

It is incumbent on me as the Head Coach to reiterate that we have done so from our first FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that it has been done in conjunction with clubs across Scottish football including Rangers and Celtic.

I explained in March the rationale behind the squad decision: not only is it consistent with the collective approach from Scottish football above but the purpose of taking the knee, to raise awareness and help eradicate racism in football and society, has been diluted and undermined by the continuation of abuse towards players.

For the avoidance of doubt: me, my coaching staff, my players and my backroom team take a stand against racism and all forms of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour across society. We do so to raise awareness of the ongoing problem but also as a reminder to those who have the ultimate power and responsibility to implement meaningful change.

In light of divisive and inaccurate comments being perpetuated by individuals and groups, whose views we denounce in the strongest terms, we have reflected today as a group. We remain committed to our principles of taking a stand but we must also be unequivocal in condemning the opportunistic false narrative being presented by some.

We have therefore agreed that we will show solidarity with our counterparts in England, many of whom are team-mates of our own players, and who have found themselves on the receiving end of abuse from fans in recent international matches.

We will continue to take a stand – together, as one – for our matches at Hampden Park. For our match at Wembley, we will stand against racism and kneel against ignorance. ”

Well done to the Scotland team, well done to the England team, true fans respect their decision

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Is that because they got bored of -

Martin luther king

Malcolm x

Muhammad ali

John carlos

Raheem sterling

Paul ince

Anton ferdinand?

Not sure if it's deliberate, but there's some pretty far out names on that list, who were very much against equality, social justice etc etc.

Great sportsman, but Ali was as racist and misogynistic as they come.

"

Malcolm X also

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple 2 weeks ago

Suck my strap on


"hardly surprising that the far righty fabbers are queuing up to stand with Dr Thomas Stowell the royal/freemasonry conspiracy theorist"
Far right fabbers....that's a new one

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"hardly surprising that the far righty fabbers are queuing up to stand with Dr Thomas Stowell the royal/freemasonry conspiracy theoristFar right fabbers....that's a new one "

You are the other one that I am curious to know if you read the open letter as well… and I’ll ask you the same thing

What part of the text in the letter do you fundamentally disagree with?

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By *ionelhutzMan 2 weeks ago

liverpool


"hardly surprising that the far righty fabbers are queuing up to stand with Dr Thomas Stowell the royal/freemasonry conspiracy theoristFar right fabbers....that's a new one "

Yep cos this place is a bastion of socialism

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

Autocorrect, you can check my previous posts on him if you want.

Or you could address the issues.

See.. I just asked a simple question… which was did you actually read the “Dear England” open letter to which you are skirting around it and steering it elsewhere…

All I asked is what part of the text in the letter do you fundamentally disagree with!"

Oh very well

I have read it

It doesn't disappoint, every bit as trite and cod philosophic as I expected.

I imagine one of his kids drafted it.

You ask what content do I disagree with? That would be like disagreeing with baked beans or seagulls.

But claiming the team are role models while offering no evidence is nonsensical.

If any kids of mine regarded someone who kicks a bag of wind for a living as a role model I'd be questioning my parenting skills.

They would regard Brunel, Woolencraft and Churchill as role models.

Cheers

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By *abioMan 2 weeks ago

Gateshead


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

Autocorrect, you can check my previous posts on him if you want.

Or you could address the issues.

See.. I just asked a simple question… which was did you actually read the “Dear England” open letter to which you are skirting around it and steering it elsewhere…

All I asked is what part of the text in the letter do you fundamentally disagree with!

Oh very well

I have read it

It doesn't disappoint, every bit as trite and cod philosophic as I expected.

I imagine one of his kids drafted it.

You ask what content do I disagree with? That would be like disagreeing with baked beans or seagulls.

But claiming the team are role models while offering no evidence is nonsensical.

If any kids of mine regarded someone who kicks a bag of wind for a living as a role model I'd be questioning my parenting skills.

They would regard Brunel, Woolencraft and Churchill as role models.

Cheers

"

As role models go… you could de a lot worse than a Marcus rashford…. Or a Harry Kane (even me as a Arsenal fan can concede that) or a Jordan Henderson..

But you came into the thread all guns blazing about the context… but now concede there actually isn’t anything really offensive in it…

So are you really in this thread for shits and giggles?

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By *inglenottsMan 2 weeks ago

Derby


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

Autocorrect, you can check my previous posts on him if you want.

Or you could address the issues.

See.. I just asked a simple question… which was did you actually read the “Dear England” open letter to which you are skirting around it and steering it elsewhere…

All I asked is what part of the text in the letter do you fundamentally disagree with!

Oh very well

I have read it

It doesn't disappoint, every bit as trite and cod philosophic as I expected.

I imagine one of his kids drafted it.

You ask what content do I disagree with? That would be like disagreeing with baked beans or seagulls.

But claiming the team are role models while offering no evidence is nonsensical.

If any kids of mine regarded someone who kicks a bag of wind for a living as a role model I'd be questioning my parenting skills.

They would regard Brunel, Woolencraft and Churchill as role models.

Cheers

"

With role models like that I bet your kids will be the social butterflies of the playground

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By *ionelhutzMan 2 weeks ago

liverpool

Its always healthy to have a racist as a role model tbf

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By *uliaChrisCouple 2 weeks ago

westerham


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???

I haven't misconstrued anything, I'm kind of a big deal around here for my deep and clear level of thought.

So seeing as I, and many others, understand the issues perfectly, why have we got to keep having them shoved down our throats, and particularly shoved down our throats by footballers, many of whom you wouldn't trust to send down the shop for a loaf of bread.

So just what message was trying to be sent in Gareth Southgate’s “Dear England” open letter… and just what part of it irks you… I am curious what part of it you explicitly disagree with……

What qualifications does he have? He kicked a bag of wind around for a living and now coaches others to kick a bag of wind around. Absolutely laughable.

I'll stick with Thomas Stowell and others thanks.

So you basically didn’t read it then…..

Gotcha!!!!Unless you think Thomas Stowell and others like him are Uncle Tom's ...

Isn't it funny, when people put forward others with controversial views as accepted by most academics, try flipping the question by using the uncle Tom reasoning, only to realise they don't know as much as they think because his name is Thomas Sowell, not Thomas Stowell

Autocorrect, you can check my previous posts on him if you want.

Or you could address the issues.

See.. I just asked a simple question… which was did you actually read the “Dear England” open letter to which you are skirting around it and steering it elsewhere…

All I asked is what part of the text in the letter do you fundamentally disagree with!

Oh very well

I have read it

It doesn't disappoint, every bit as trite and cod philosophic as I expected.

I imagine one of his kids drafted it.

You ask what content do I disagree with? That would be like disagreeing with baked beans or seagulls.

But claiming the team are role models while offering no evidence is nonsensical.

If any kids of mine regarded someone who kicks a bag of wind for a living as a role model I'd be questioning my parenting skills.

They would regard Brunel, Woolencraft and Churchill as role models.

Cheers

As role models go… you could de a lot worse than a Marcus rashford…. Or a Harry Kane (even me as a Arsenal fan can concede that) or a Jordan Henderson..

But you came into the thread all guns blazing about the context… but now concede there actually isn’t anything really offensive in it…

So are you really in this thread for shits and giggles? "

I find it grossly offensive the weight that some of the credulous give to ‘celebrity “ opinions.

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By *angbangfunMan 2 weeks ago

london

Scotland players have decided

(Under direct criticism from Scottish Fans )

To take the knee at Wembley in support

With there England Counterparts .

Some of my Scottish Colleagues have

Informed me it was to p155 off the

Right leaning booers of Englandshires

Knee takers !

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By *ilkysmooth123Man 2 weeks ago

nr sedbergh


"

You speak for yourself, and others. Many fans have zero interest in being lectured to by a bunch of immensely priveledged prima Donnas.

Scotland have been taking a more forceful approach since the racial abuse incident aimed at rangers glen kamara!

Maybe if you didn’t misconstrued the message being sent, which has been explained again and again and again, you would not need to be lectured in the first place!

After all.. what part of social and racial injustice are you exactly against???"

Didnt you once serve a ban on here for bullying a dyslexic? I think he was a scottish lad,kinky hns or something?

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By *ilkysmooth123Man 2 weeks ago

nr sedbergh


"Scotland players have decided

(Under direct criticism from Scottish Fans )

To take the knee at Wembley in support

With there England Counterparts .

Some of my Scottish Colleagues have

Informed me it was to p155 off the

Right leaning booers of Englandshires

Knee takers !

"

Cool story.But thats all it is.A story.Lets face it,you just made this up.

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By *eroy1000Man 2 weeks ago

milton keynes

Tonight's game between Belgium and Russia also witnessed booing when the Belgium players took the knee though not sure if they were booing the Belgium's or the Russians that did not participate

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Scotland players have decided

(Under direct criticism from Scottish Fans )

To take the knee at Wembley in support

With there England Counterparts .

Some of my Scottish Colleagues have

Informed me it was to p155 off the

Right leaning booers of Englandshires

Knee takers !

Cool story.But thats all it is.A story.Lets face it,you just made this up."

Not at all

He is a Proud Motherwell Fan & runs numerous

Podcasts in Scotlands Footballing world .

Sorry to dissapoint .

I dont really do made up stories .

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Scotland players have decided

(Under direct criticism from Scottish Fans )

To take the knee at Wembley in support

With there England Counterparts .

Some of my Scottish Colleagues have

Informed me it was to p155 off the

Right leaning booers of Englandshires

Knee takers !

Cool story.But thats all it is.A story.Lets face it,you just made this up.

Not at all

He is a Proud Motherwell Fan & runs numerous

Podcasts in Scotlands Footballing world .

Sorry to dissapoint .

I dont really do made up stories .

"

Well you made up that one about knowing a football agent a few days ago tbf

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By *ilkysmooth123Man 1 week ago

nr sedbergh


"Scotland players have decided

(Under direct criticism from Scottish Fans )

To take the knee at Wembley in support

With there England Counterparts .

Some of my Scottish Colleagues have

Informed me it was to p155 off the

Right leaning booers of Englandshires

Knee takers !

Cool story.But thats all it is.A story.Lets face it,you just made this up.

Not at all

He is a Proud Motherwell Fan & runs numerous

Podcasts in Scotlands Footballing world .

Sorry to dissapoint .

I dont really do made up stories .

"

Ah well,you shouldve said youre source was a proud motherwell fan in the first place.Im now totally convinced your not talking shite.

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Scotland players have decided

(Under direct criticism from Scottish Fans )

To take the knee at Wembley in support

With there England Counterparts .

Some of my Scottish Colleagues have

Informed me it was to p155 off the

Right leaning booers of Englandshires

Knee takers !

Cool story.But thats all it is.A story.Lets face it,you just made this up.

Not at all

He is a Proud Motherwell Fan & runs numerous

Podcasts in Scotlands Footballing world .

Sorry to dissapoint .

I dont really do made up stories .

Ah well,you shouldve said youre source was a proud motherwell fan in the first place.Im now totally convinced your not talking shite."

Good for you

Accepting truth leads to

The road away from perdition .

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By *wisted999Man 1 week ago

North Bucks

Good to hear the cheers and the conversation in the wider world is about football for once.

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london

Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans "

Classy

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By *eroy1000Man 1 week ago

milton keynes


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans "

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

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By *ebjonnsonMan 1 week ago

Chelmsford


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game"

Some English racists must have been there?

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By *eroy1000Man 1 week ago

milton keynes


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there? "

Yep, the lengths they go to lol

Surprised not much about it in the news but I'm sure if it happens in England again it will soon make the headlines

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there? "

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

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By *eroy1000Man 1 week ago

milton keynes

That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

"

Outstanding

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games"

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

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By *oxychick35Couple 1 week ago

thornaby


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans "

yes because only English fans do the eh ffs

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By *oxychick35Couple 1 week ago

thornaby


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

"

your hatred for English is so fucking childish

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

Outstanding "

I thought so to

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

your hatred for English is so fucking childish "

I dont Hate England

Id never dream of booing there National Anthem

Or anyone elses for that matter .

The Only hate ive heard is from Engpand

fans booing the Croatian National Anthem

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By *oxychick35Couple 1 week ago

thornaby


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

your hatred for English is so fucking childish

I dont Hate England

Id never dream of booing there National Anthem

Or anyone elses for that matter .

The Only hate ive heard is from Engpand

fans booing the Croatian National Anthem

"

lol only England fans boo then eh

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By *eroy1000Man 1 week ago

milton keynes


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans"

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

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By *ockdownerMan 1 week ago

Preston


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

your hatred for English is so fucking childish

I dont Hate England

Id never dream of booing there National Anthem

Or anyone elses for that matter .

The Only hate ive heard is from Engpand

fans booing the Croatian National Anthem

"

I hardly ever watch football but it was fucking embarrassing and pathetic to hear the few miserable bastards I suppose lucky enough to enjoy the match fucking booing the oppositions national anthem.

Fucking shameful really.

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans"

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

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By *hortandShorterCouple 1 week ago

Bournemouth


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans."

That's not what you said above

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

That's not what you said above "

Its exactly what I said but do enlighten me

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By *hortandShorterCouple 1 week ago

Bournemouth


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

That's not what you said above

Its exactly what I said but do enlighten me"

This is exactly what you said

'Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans'

This was a direct answer to the below statement:

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

your hatred for English is so fucking childish

I dont Hate England

Id never dream of booing there National Anthem

Or anyone elses for that matter .

The Only hate ive heard is from Engpand

fans booing the Croatian National Anthem

I hardly ever watch football but it was fucking embarrassing and pathetic to hear the few miserable bastards I suppose lucky enough to enjoy the match fucking booing the oppositions national anthem.

Fucking shameful really."

Couldnt agree more

I will say its something i would find shameful if

done by any countries fans against others National Anthems .

You nust have to look atthe Anthems at

Croke Park in 2007 .

The Irish respected the Anthem of England

Even after the last visit to Croker .

Booing because you lost a Semi Final 3 years ago .

Just Sounds like a bunch of spoilt 5 year olds

who didnt get biscuits .

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

That's not what you said above

Its exactly what I said but do enlighten me

This is exactly what you said

'Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans'

This was a direct answer to the below statement:

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games"

Amd how does that differ to what I said above?

My 1st statement said..well that depends on of the apologists defend the actions of other fans

I'd then said I'd like to justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other countries

How are those 2 statements different?

But in case you are confused.. I'll repeat, for the 2nd time,I wouldnt condone any fans booing it.

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

your hatred for English is so fucking childish

I dont Hate England

Id never dream of booing there National Anthem

Or anyone elses for that matter .

The Only hate ive heard is from Engpand

fans booing the Croatian National Anthem

I hardly ever watch football but it was fucking embarrassing and pathetic to hear the few miserable bastards I suppose lucky enough to enjoy the match fucking booing the oppositions national anthem.

Fucking shameful really.

Couldnt agree more

I will say its something i would find shameful if

done by any countries fans against others National Anthems .

You nust have to look atthe Anthems at

Croke Park in 2007 .

The Irish respected the Anthem of England

Even after the last visit to Croker .

Booing because you lost a Semi Final 3 years ago .

Just Sounds like a bunch of spoilt 5 year olds

who didnt get biscuits ."

I remember they even booed the jamaican anthem a few years ago when they played them in a friendly.

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By *hortandShorterCouple 1 week ago

Bournemouth


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

That's not what you said above

Its exactly what I said but do enlighten me

This is exactly what you said

'Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans'

This was a direct answer to the below statement:

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Amd how does that differ to what I said above?

My 1st statement said..well that depends on of the apologists defend the actions of other fans

I'd then said I'd like to justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other countries

How are those 2 statements different?

But in case you are confused.. I'll repeat, for the 2nd time,I wouldnt condone any fans booing it."

The first statement is not a condemnation. Neither is the second. I think the English language confuses you somewhat

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

That's not what you said above

Its exactly what I said but do enlighten me

This is exactly what you said

'Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans'

This was a direct answer to the below statement:

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Amd how does that differ to what I said above?

My 1st statement said..well that depends on of the apologists defend the actions of other fans

I'd then said I'd like to justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other countries

How are those 2 statements different?

But in case you are confused.. I'll repeat, for the 2nd time,I wouldnt condone any fans booing it.

The first statement is not a condemnation. Neither is the second. I think the English language confuses you somewhat "

Or maybe you just desperately look for something to pick me up on and fail miserably?

The fact that I've clearly condemned it twice and it's still gone over your head is a bit of a worry tbh.

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By *hortandShorterCouple 1 week ago

Bournemouth


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans.

That's not what you said above

Its exactly what I said but do enlighten me

This is exactly what you said

'Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans'

This was a direct answer to the below statement:

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Amd how does that differ to what I said above?

My 1st statement said..well that depends on of the apologists defend the actions of other fans

I'd then said I'd like to justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other countries

How are those 2 statements different?

But in case you are confused.. I'll repeat, for the 2nd time,I wouldnt condone any fans booing it.

The first statement is not a condemnation. Neither is the second. I think the English language confuses you somewhat

Or maybe you just desperately look for something to pick me up on and fail miserably?

The fact that I've clearly condemned it twice and it's still gone over your head is a bit of a worry tbh.

"

Maybe it's myself who struggles with the English language. I genuinely don't think so though

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Shame about a return to

Booing opposition National Anthems

By England Fans

Never good to see. Was also not good that taking the knee was booed at the Belgium, Russia game

Some English racists must have been there?

After there 2016 meetings with the

Ruskie football mob ?

I dont f*cking think so .

Arses well & truly smacked

your hatred for English is so fucking childish

I dont Hate England

Id never dream of booing there National Anthem

Or anyone elses for that matter .

The Only hate ive heard is from Engpand

fans booing the Croatian National Anthem

I hardly ever watch football but it was fucking embarrassing and pathetic to hear the few miserable bastards I suppose lucky enough to enjoy the match fucking booing the oppositions national anthem.

Fucking shameful really.

Couldnt agree more

I will say its something i would find shameful if

done by any countries fans against others National Anthems .

You nust have to look atthe Anthems at

Croke Park in 2007 .

The Irish respected the Anthem of England

Even after the last visit to Croker .

Booing because you lost a Semi Final 3 years ago .

Just Sounds like a bunch of spoilt 5 year olds

who didnt get biscuits .

I remember they even booed the jamaican anthem a few years ago when they played them in a friendly. "

And taking a Knee wasnt even a thing then !

Then you get a fool like Raab saying the EU

should give respect to britain blah blah blah &

Football fans ber3 wont even respect a Countries

National Anthem .

Led by Donkeys !!

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By *eroy1000Man 1 week ago

milton keynes


"That's bad news as means its not just the English doing this

Hopefully you all condemn the booing at all games

Well that depends if the apologists will defend the actions of the other fans

I thought you was against racism and supported the taking the knee actions. Seems now you set pre conditions on condemning the booing. Will you be the same if it happens in England again. Personally I condemn it wherever it happens even if it is related to other countries fans

So do I

But I'd like to know the justification for englamd fans booing it applies to other fans."

Maybe it's just the way it's written but when your answer started with the words ' it depends' it did not sound like you condemn regardless. For me it does not depend on what others say/ try to justify epithets before or in the future. However I think you have now made your position clearer

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"

Maybe it's myself who struggles with the English language. I genuinely don't think so though "

Ah the English Language

Rite write Right Wright

Which one is correct ?

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham

Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

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By *ockdownerMan 1 week ago

Preston


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics"

Well, seeing as she isn't the one kneeling then it's safe to say she knows fuck all of what she speaks

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics"

She is so cuddly.

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

She is so cuddly."

She'd chew you up and spit you out Lionel

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Well, seeing as she isn't the one kneeling then it's safe to say she knows fuck all of what she speaks "

No idea what that means

What's the connection between who is doing the kneeling and knowing what it means?

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics"

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks?? "

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics "

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks "

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s? "

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn? "

No answer. Noted.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted. "

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s? "

Didnt that K*tie Hopkins woman use that line

Why Steal someone else's bullsh*t quote ?

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ? "

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction. "

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists "

Hes treading water desperately .

Cany use the same arguments .

Like Britain was the 1st to

have an Empire .

He literally makes this sh*t up as he goes . Any credibility he thought

He had, went down with the ensign

Regardless of what colour it was proclaimed to be .

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

Hes treading water desperately .

Cany use the same arguments .

Like Britain was the 1st to

have an Empire .

He literally makes this sh*t up as he goes . Any credibility he thought

He had, went down with the ensign

Regardless of what colour it was proclaimed to be ."

No mention of the pound to the euro anymore

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists "

If some of them do a white power salute it won't trigger you then?

Interesting

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool

Tbf priti is probally still annoyed at the likes of rashford for drawing attention to the dickensian attitude to hungry children

Still its nice to see tories showing their true colours

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

If some of them do a white power salute it won't trigger you then?

Interesting "

When are they planning on doing that? Or is it just another one of your ‘what ifs’?

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

Hes treading water desperately .

Cany use the same arguments .

Like Britain was the 1st to

have an Empire .

He literally makes this sh*t up as he goes . Any credibility he thought

He had, went down with the ensign

Regardless of what colour it was proclaimed to be .

No mention of the pound to the euro anymore "

Too funny

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By *uliaChrisCouple 1 week ago

westerham


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

If some of them do a white power salute it won't trigger you then?

Interesting

When are they planning on doing that? Or is it just another one of your ‘what ifs’? "

No, you said the footballers could use any gesture they liked. It's your what if, not mine.

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Tbf priti is probally still annoyed at the likes of rashford for drawing attention to the dickensian attitude to hungry children

Still its nice to see tories showing their true colours "

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan 1 week ago

Princes Risborough

the racist in chief turns to calling everything that is contrary to their narrative marxist yet again.

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By *kyblue1878Couple 1 week ago

brentwood


"OP: "What an incredibly articulate and well thought out, open letter. If only certain columnists and high profile media personalities could adopt such an inclusive message, rather constantly fomenting division.

Very sad though that he has to appeal to the anti-woke agitators to stop booing their own team.

Or do we just have to accept that in modern England, you have to now be a racist, sexist and intolerant to at least some degree?"

Friday 18th June will offer some interesting points for discussion:

"Scotland players will “stand up to racism” at Euro 2020 rather than take the knee before matches. ... A statement from the Scottish Football Association read: “The squad, coaching staff and backroom members will stand up to racism ahead of the Group D matches against Czech Republic, England and Croatia."

Their decision, I am sure the Scottish fans will respect that

I dunno, if someone is standing, are they definitely standing upto racism? They might just be... Standing.

"

If the SFA say by standing, they are standing up to racism then it has to be believed and respected in the same way our FA are saying by taking the knee, they are not associating themselves with any political organisations (is BLM)

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

If some of them do a white power salute it won't trigger you then?

Interesting

When are they planning on doing that? Or is it just another one of your ‘what ifs’?

No, you said the footballers could use any gesture they liked. It's your what if, not mine. "

So, as a sign of solidarity against racism your suggesting that they ‘might’ make a white power salute ? Is that correct? Tbh I don’t think the players care what you and your crew think

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

If some of them do a white power salute it won't trigger you then?

Interesting

When are they planning on doing that? Or is it just another one of your ‘what ifs’?

No, you said the footballers could use any gesture they liked. It's your what if, not mine.

So, as a sign of solidarity against racism your suggesting that they ‘might’ make a white power salute ? Is that correct? Tbh I don’t think the players care what you and your crew think "

Fortunately that crew is diminishing day by day

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Pritti Patel says kneeling is gesture politics

Who gives a fuck what she thinks??

Ok

Kneeling is gesture politics

According to a Priti Patel, no one (apart from racists) gives a shit what she thinks

If these overpaid clowns are upset by something on Twitter, and aren’t Marxists….. why not come up with their own protest gesture?

Why steal someone else’s?

Why are you referring to the money they earn?

No answer. Noted.

They can choose any protest ‘gesture’ they like, their decision, why are you referring to the money they earn ?

Here we go again, we've discussed this..

It's faux Liberal to say they can use any protest gesture they like. Of course they can't. They could then be doing black or white power salutes etc.

That's the slope they are careering down. Unless it's one rule for one, one for another.

They want to protest twitter then make their own symbol protesting twitter. They might even get a better reaction.

They can do what they like, who cares if it triggers a few racists

If some of them do a white power salute it won't trigger you then?

Interesting

When are they planning on doing that? Or is it just another one of your ‘what ifs’?

No, you said the footballers could use any gesture they liked. It's your what if, not mine.

So, as a sign of solidarity against racism your suggesting that they ‘might’ make a white power salute ? Is that correct? Tbh I don’t think the players care what you and your crew think

Fortunately that crew is diminishing day by day "

Indeed,

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By *ionelhutzMan 1 week ago

liverpool

Priti tweeted come on england and someone tweeted back..if football came home you would probally deport it

Outstanding.

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By *oveTKOMan 2 days ago

London N16

Raheen Sterling scores for England

His & Englands 2nd goal of the Tournament .

BGM

Black Goalscorers Matter !

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