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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history. |
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The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history. "
No Tom, it shouldn’t. Mainly because it’s still very much a thing.
The focus should be on poor families of all ethnic backgrounds, irrespective or race |
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By *JCouple
over a year ago
Teesside |
"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason. "
Yet sadly the majority of UK citizens voted for blithering Boris! |
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over a year ago
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason. "
Exactly this, the way our government has always worked is divide and conquer. As long as your busy pointing the finger at each other, your not looking at them |
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too."
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
I find it crazy that only a year after the BLM protests, we’re seeing reports asking to redress the balance back towards white people.
“That’s enough talking about white privilege, it’s upsetting us. Can we focus on giving the white people attention again now please?”
It’s about as tone deaf as it can get and completely ignores any wider social issues or the impact that this report will have on any anti racism action |
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"I find it crazy that only a year after the BLM protests, we’re seeing reports asking to redress the balance back towards white people.
“That’s enough talking about white privilege, it’s upsetting us. Can we focus on giving the white people attention again now please?”
It’s about as tone deaf as it can get and completely ignores any wider social issues or the impact that this report will have on any anti racism action"
It's telling, isn't it? |
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason. "
No it's not because of Tory cuts.
The poor performance of working class or underclass whites has been debated for decades if not centuries.
Now to confuse this with race smells of smoke and mirrors to me.
Nonetheless it needs further attention.
Universities , bellies and minds weren't miraculously filled and transformed under any government.
It'd be best to look for solutions instead of finger pointing. No finger pointing gets things done. |
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
No Tom, it shouldn’t. Mainly because it’s still very much a thing.
The focus should be on poor families of all ethnic backgrounds, irrespective or race"
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people."
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The problem is class privilege,regardless of colour or where you’re from. Working class are always left in the lurch and have to mainly fend for themselves with not much help from any government of any party. |
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason.
Exactly this, the way our government has always worked is divide and conquer. As long as your busy pointing the finger at each other, your not looking at them "
Most people point the finger and create 'them & us' narratives not just governments. |
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"Lol! MPs blaming their own neglect of children from working class families on the term "white privilege". Brilliant! "
Indeed. I’m pretty sure that is the Oxford English recognised definition of irony |
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason.
No it's not because of Tory cuts.
The poor performance of working class or underclass whites has been debated for decades if not centuries.
Now to confuse this with race smells of smoke and mirrors to me.
Nonetheless it needs further attention.
Universities , bellies and minds weren't miraculously filled and transformed under any government.
It'd be best to look for solutions instead of finger pointing. No finger pointing gets things done."
You think the cuts to children's centres, school budgets etc has had no affect on children?
Would be remarkable if it didn't. |
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
No Tom, it shouldn’t. Mainly because it’s still very much a thing.
The focus should be on poor families of all ethnic backgrounds, irrespective or race"
We said this last night. Deflection is a useful tool for governments though. |
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason. "
Spot on |
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"The problem is class privilege,regardless of colour or where you’re from. Working class are always left in the lurch and have to mainly fend for themselves with not much help from any government of any party."
I fully agree with this. The challenge is that with any structure there is still a hierarchy and the constant rhetoric from the S*n, Daily Mail, MPs and their partners (see Dido Harding’s comments on the reliance on foreigners in the NHS) helps perpetuate a feeling, sense or belief of superiority and them and us even among the poorest of the working classes |
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason.
Exactly this, the way our government has always worked is divide and conquer. As long as your busy pointing the finger at each other, your not looking at them
Most people point the finger and create 'them & us' narratives not just governments."
And where do you think that comes from? Our government set the tone for what they want society to be. With others, the media being a big culprit, they drop little snippets out there to justify other's narrative. Whether it's class, race, religion or sex; there is always something out there to cause divide. The people who live in ignorance then take that information and create the divide. Whatever the outcome, the government always win.. a large majority election is a good example |
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"The problem is class privilege,regardless of colour or where you’re from. Working class are always left in the lurch and have to mainly fend for themselves with not much help from any government of any party.
I fully agree with this. The challenge is that with any structure there is still a hierarchy and the constant rhetoric from the S*n, Daily Mail, MPs and their partners (see Dido Harding’s comments on the reliance on foreigners in the NHS) helps perpetuate a feeling, sense or belief of superiority and them and us even among the poorest of the working classes"
People always need someone to look down on.
Look at the 'spending all their money on booze 'comments around the school meals issue.
The right always blame the victim and sadly enough people fall for it. |
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"This has been the case for decades as the report says not just because Boris is a useless twat. "
yes decades but straight away ppl on her want to make it about torries or a racist thread never changes on here
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"The term may or may not be helpful, but is isn't why children are suffering. That's because of a decade of Tory cuts.
This is just an attempt to shift the blame. Tories love to try and stir up culture wars for this reason.
Exactly this, the way our government has always worked is divide and conquer. As long as your busy pointing the finger at each other, your not looking at them
Most people point the finger and create 'them & us' narratives not just governments.
And where do you think that comes from? Our government set the tone for what they want society to be. With others, the media being a big culprit, they drop little snippets out there to justify other's narrative. Whether it's class, race, religion or sex; there is always something out there to cause divide. The people who live in ignorance then take that information and create the divide. Whatever the outcome, the government always win.. a large majority election is a good example "
Look at the whole culture around people on benefits..they even have tv shows on it.
Funny they dont do programmes on millionaires who pay fuck all in tax. |
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"This has been the case for decades as the report says not just because Boris is a useless twat. yes decades but straight away ppl on her want to make it about torries or a racist thread never changes on here "
Who has been in power for the majority of the past few decades though? |
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"This has been the case for decades as the report says not just because Boris is a useless twat. yes decades but straight away ppl on her want to make it about torries or a racist thread never changes on here "
Probally because it's got worse on the last few decades for some reason. |
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"This has been the case for decades as the report says not just because Boris is a useless twat. yes decades but straight away ppl on her want to make it about torries or a racist thread never changes on here
Probally because it's got worse on the last few decades for some reason."
as it got worse ? it’s been like this for decades but no one wanted to know I wonder why that was |
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"This has been the case for decades as the report says not just because Boris is a useless twat. yes decades but straight away ppl on her want to make it about torries or a racist thread never changes on here
Probally because it's got worse on the last few decades for some reason.as it got worse ? it’s been like this for decades but no one wanted to know I wonder why that was "
I'd say inequality has got much worse over the last 30 years or so. |
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"I find it crazy that only a year after the BLM protests, we’re seeing reports asking to redress the balance back towards white people.
“That’s enough talking about white privilege, it’s upsetting us. Can we focus on giving the white people attention again now please?”
It’s about as tone deaf as it can get and completely ignores any wider social issues or the impact that this report will have on any anti racism action
It's telling, isn't it?
I’m absolutely appalled that the BBC covered it in the manner that it has, I’m not surprised that the bastion of white privilege has published this report though.
I’m also not surprised that Tom posted this thread, I’m sure he saw the headlines and salivated
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Yes, this has been my biggest problem with the reporting.
The words used on the BBC news just now were "A group of MPs" no mention that it was a majority group of Tory MPs, or that other members of the committee are disowning the report saying the data were cherry picked...
It's not even factual, Romany/Traveller children are actually the poorest performing.
The key to it all is low-income, un-related to your race/ethnicity. But even that is to over-simplify the whole issue.
Schools and educationalists have been struggling with these problems for decades. Things were improving, whilst a "whole family" approach was being taken (things like Sure Start etc.), but funding for these types of schemes has been leeched away... |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents, |
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents, "
‘Steal and con ‘ most of your income? Any evidence to back this up or is it the usual ignorant stereotyping? |
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
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Whilst your comment is extremely prejudiced. It has a small piece of truth in it, but not in quite the way you hint.
Across the board, low-income generally affects families generationally, with low engagement with education.
A parent that did not do well at school, is not in a great position to support their children. It's a difficult cycle to address, without targeted programs tailored for the issue, but that takes money... |
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
Whilst your comment is extremely prejudiced. It has a small piece of truth in it, but not in quite the way you hint.
Across the board, low-income generally affects families generationally, with low engagement with education.
A parent that did not do well at school, is not in a great position to support their children. It's a difficult cycle to address, without targeted programs tailored for the issue, but that takes money..."
I can't agree with that last paragraph. Neither of us done particularly well at school. However, our children excel.
The reason for this??
Our want to make sure they did better than us, teach them young and teach them well.
Far too many parents think schools and schools alone should be teaching their children.
This for me is the largest issue, and what we need to address. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
Whilst your comment is extremely prejudiced. It has a small piece of truth in it, but not in quite the way you hint.
Across the board, low-income generally affects families generationally, with low engagement with education.
A parent that did not do well at school, is not in a great position to support their children. It's a difficult cycle to address, without targeted programs tailored for the issue, but that takes money..."
Yes I fully accept that if you arent that clever it can be hard to help your own kids, however surely one of the biggest responsibilities of being a parent is to ensure your kids get on, even if they cant do much themselves ensuring their kids work hard, do their homework or even attend school is very easy, teachers in my experience are always willing to help. It's much easier for people to blame something else than look in the mirror |
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
‘Steal and con ‘ most of your income? Any evidence to back this up or is it the usual ignorant stereotyping? "
3 guesses |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
Whilst your comment is extremely prejudiced. It has a small piece of truth in it, but not in quite the way you hint.
Across the board, low-income generally affects families generationally, with low engagement with education.
A parent that did not do well at school, is not in a great position to support their children. It's a difficult cycle to address, without targeted programs tailored for the issue, but that takes money...
I can't agree with that last paragraph. Neither of us done particularly well at school. However, our children excel.
The reason for this??
Our want to make sure they did better than us, teach them young and teach them well.
Far too many parents think schools and schools alone should be teaching their children.
This for me is the largest issue, and what we need to address."
So very true. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
‘Steal and con ‘ most of your income? Any evidence to back this up or is it the usual ignorant stereotyping?
3 guesses "
Do you live near any camps ? Have you experienced any theft by them, ask anyone who has and you will soon find the truth. |
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
Whilst your comment is extremely prejudiced. It has a small piece of truth in it, but not in quite the way you hint.
Across the board, low-income generally affects families generationally, with low engagement with education.
A parent that did not do well at school, is not in a great position to support their children. It's a difficult cycle to address, without targeted programs tailored for the issue, but that takes money...
I can't agree with that last paragraph. Neither of us done particularly well at school. However, our children excel.
The reason for this??
Our want to make sure they did better than us, teach them young and teach them well.
Far too many parents think schools and schools alone should be teaching their children.
This for me is the largest issue, and what we need to address.
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I did put that they are not in a great position, not that they will always fail.
I am sure you worked hard at supporting your children. You would probably concede that you were at a disadvantage though. One you overcame, but not everyone is able to overcome these types of hurdles.
That's why the statistics are against children in that position. You, and your family are an outlier in those statistics, a happy outlier...
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
‘Steal and con ‘ most of your income? Any evidence to back this up or is it the usual ignorant stereotyping?
3 guesses "
The usual  |
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
Whilst your comment is extremely prejudiced. It has a small piece of truth in it, but not in quite the way you hint.
Across the board, low-income generally affects families generationally, with low engagement with education.
A parent that did not do well at school, is not in a great position to support their children. It's a difficult cycle to address, without targeted programs tailored for the issue, but that takes money...
I can't agree with that last paragraph. Neither of us done particularly well at school. However, our children excel.
The reason for this??
Our want to make sure they did better than us, teach them young and teach them well.
Far too many parents think schools and schools alone should be teaching their children.
This for me is the largest issue, and what we need to address.
I did put that they are not in a great position, not that they will always fail.
I am sure you worked hard at supporting your children. You would probably concede that you were at a disadvantage though. One you overcame, but not everyone is able to overcome these types of hurdles.
That's why the statistics are against children in that position. You, and your family are an outlier in those statistics, a happy outlier...
;-)"
You did that and we must commend you for that.
Not everyone will do well I school. However, as parents we need to do more. If you do more and they still struggle then you know you have done what you can.
There are still far to many who don't do enough as parents when it comes to education |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history. "
Say the “conservative” members of the select committee…….
The rest of the mp’s on the committee have refused to sign off on the report…..
If you are going to use “social commentary” (your words not mine) to start a topic then at least put it in the entire context… rather than skew to fit a narrative… |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
Say the “conservative” members of the select committee…….
The rest of the mp’s on the committee have refused to sign off on the report…..
If you are going to use “social commentary” (your words not mine) to start a topic then at least put it in the entire context… rather than skew to fit a narrative…"
Fabio. This was a direct lift from the BBC article today. That is the part that I put the quotation marks around. Not altered in any way.
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"The term "white privilege" is racist.
Yes that is a full stop.
Does it offend you ??"
Thankfully I'm not a member of the serially offended club.
However it is no less offensive than the myriad of other terms and expressions that offend the serially offended.
It's still racist though.
Yes that is another full stop. |
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"The term "white privilege" is racist.
Yes that is a full stop.
Does it offend you ??
Thankfully I'm not a member of the serially offended club.
However it is no less offensive than the myriad of other terms and expressions that offend the serially offended.
It's still racist though.
Yes that is another full stop."
So it doesn’t offend you? Yes, that is a question mark? |
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people."
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above. |
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above."
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above."
Yup.
It's "no, we're not going to help your kids. Look, those people of a different ethnicity want to deny your suffering. Ignore the fact that I'm not helping, go hate them!" |
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above."
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above.
Yup.
It's "no, we're not going to help your kids. Look, those people of a different ethnicity want to deny your suffering. Ignore the fact that I'm not helping, go hate them!""
Ooh look those people on the dinghy are coming to sponge off the state
Oh look those people who cant feed their kids have got a fuck off tele
Ooh look I cant even put up.my st Georges cross anymore |
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above.
Yup.
It's "no, we're not going to help your kids. Look, those people of a different ethnicity want to deny your suffering. Ignore the fact that I'm not helping, go hate them!"
Ooh look those people on the dinghy are coming to sponge off the state
Oh look those people who cant feed their kids have got a fuck off tele
Ooh look I cant even put up.my st Georges cross anymore "
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above.
Yup.
It's "no, we're not going to help your kids. Look, those people of a different ethnicity want to deny your suffering. Ignore the fact that I'm not helping, go hate them!"
Ooh look those people on the dinghy are coming to sponge off the state
Oh look those people who cant feed their kids have got a fuck off tele
Ooh look I cant even put up.my st Georges cross anymore
What-about that bloody Marcus Rashford who earns 100k a week ‘telling’ the government what to spend tax payers money on "
How dare he try to help poor people. Big society - as long as I can't see it |
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above.
Yup.
It's "no, we're not going to help your kids. Look, those people of a different ethnicity want to deny your suffering. Ignore the fact that I'm not helping, go hate them!"
Ooh look those people on the dinghy are coming to sponge off the state
Oh look those people who cant feed their kids have got a fuck off tele
Ooh look I cant even put up.my st Georges cross anymore
What-about that bloody Marcus Rashford who earns 100k a week ‘telling’ the government what to spend tax payers money on
How dare he try to help poor people. Big society - as long as I can't see it"
The big society
A millionaire telling people they should work for nothing.
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"It’s true though. But maybe should be relabelled white middle class privilege?
Many of our working class are certainly on the bottom rungs of society too.
Privilege is intersectional.
So white people have privilege because of their ethnicity (largely), middle class people for their socioeconomic status.
A white poor person and a black middle class person both have privilege, just different privilege. They all combine in different ways in different people.
This.
I'd also like to add that this is old news. There were reports of working class white children (boys mainly) failing at secondary school around five to ten years ago. Education should be working for everyone but due to government neglect, this is not the case. The problem is instead of improving our schools overall, they've flagged that working class white children shouldn't be underperforming compared to children of working class immigrants.
So it's not "systematic neglect" of low income white families. The schools have always been messed up. It's the government's weak attempt of putting a lazy arm around the people whose children they were going to let go hungry, had it not been for Marcus Rashford. The truth is when "privilege" stops working, you look at everything else in more detail, as the person has highlighted above.
Yup.
It's "no, we're not going to help your kids. Look, those people of a different ethnicity want to deny your suffering. Ignore the fact that I'm not helping, go hate them!"
Ooh look those people on the dinghy are coming to sponge off the state
Oh look those people who cant feed their kids have got a fuck off tele
Ooh look I cant even put up.my st Georges cross anymore
What-about that bloody Marcus Rashford who earns 100k a week ‘telling’ the government what to spend tax payers money on
How dare he try to help poor people. Big society - as long as I can't see it
The big society
A millionaire telling people they should work for nothing.
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents, "
It sounds like you havejust described
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By *obka3Couple
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"Well money certainly isnt an issue with the traveller community, they have plenty to buy top of the range caravans and range rovers etc to pull them, of course if you steal and con most of your income, pay no taxes etc you wont be hard up.
Maybe we should be looking at the attitude of parents,
It sounds like you havejust described
Conservative politicians "
And most teachers who would expect parents to support their efforts by ensuring they do the work set, are polite to the teachers and put the effort in. |
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"This is all over the news folks...I don't make this stuff up..."
Nobody will care this time next week, in fact, with England winning and qualifying for the next round nobody will care by tomorrow |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"This is all over the news folks...I don't make this stuff up...
Nobody will care this time next week, in fact, with England winning and qualifying for the next round nobody will care by tomorrow "
Well they certainly have one more match |
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"This is all over the news folks...I don't make this stuff up...
Nobody will care this time next week, in fact, with England winning and qualifying for the next round nobody will care by tomorrow
Well they certainly have one more match "
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"This is all over the news folks...I don't make this stuff up...
Nobody will care this time next week, in fact, with England winning and qualifying for the next round nobody will care by tomorrow
Well they certainly have one more match "
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"This is all over the news folks...I don't make this stuff up..."
This is from 2015:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/jun/25/schools-attainment-gap-white-working-class-ethnic-minority-pupils-dfe
This is from 2010:
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-10528359
You're acting like this is a recent revelation. It's not. It's a decade old problem which has been left to fester. But as it's been highlighted, England have made the knockout stages so here's to another 5/10 years of festering. Sad...
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Not sure that the govt will see it as in their interest to fix this. There seems to be a strong inverse correlation between quality of education for this group and the number of Tory votes they provide.
I think they would prefer to spend money (if they haven't spent it all on Serco et al) on grammar schools / academies / giving charitable tax breaks to private schools.
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It's about time the parents of these Kids
started getting A bit stricter on them when
It comes to school work , might even help
If the parents did more so the kids wouldnt
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"Is there an Englishman who wants the England football team to lose..
Not me by the way..."
you having a laugh have you read posts on here before there bastard loads of them who would like to see us lose lol |
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"Not sure that the govt will see it as in their interest to fix this. There seems to be a strong inverse correlation between quality of education for this group and the number of Tory votes they provide.
I think they would prefer to spend money (if they haven't spent it all on Serco et al) on grammar schools / academies / giving charitable tax breaks to private schools.
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Dumb people vote Tory....
You couldnt actually make this shit up could you |
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Personally i think its a horriblle term and teaches kids to discriminate in regards to race.
Something I thought we wanted to stop
Amazing that the "Anti-racists" are the ones who bring it up, trying to bring back segregration at events and schools.
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"Not sure that the govt will see it as in their interest to fix this. There seems to be a strong inverse correlation between quality of education for this group and the number of Tory votes they provide.
I think they would prefer to spend money (if they haven't spent it all on Serco et al) on grammar schools / academies / giving charitable tax breaks to private schools.
Dumb people vote Tory....
You couldnt actually make this shit up could you"
A weird response to somebody's post that has "it seems" and "I think" followed by unprovable suppositions. They quite literally "made that shit up". I think that "dumb people" don't just vote Tory. Using the word "dumb" is quite offensive, though - it refers to a particular medical condition, otherwise known as "mutism". Not something to make fun of for people suffering this condition.  |
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"Not sure that the govt will see it as in their interest to fix this. There seems to be a strong inverse correlation between quality of education for this group and the number of Tory votes they provide.
I think they would prefer to spend money (if they haven't spent it all on Serco et al) on grammar schools / academies / giving charitable tax breaks to private schools.
Dumb people vote Tory....
You couldnt actually make this shit up could you
A weird response to somebody's post that has "it seems" and "I think" followed by unprovable suppositions. They quite literally "made that shit up". I think that "dumb people" don't just vote Tory. Using the word "dumb" is quite offensive, though - it refers to a particular medical condition, otherwise known as "mutism". Not something to make fun of for people suffering this condition. "
Does the word dumb offend you? |
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"Personally i think its a horriblle term and teaches kids to discriminate in regards to race.
Something I thought we wanted to stop
Amazing that the "Anti-racists" are the ones who bring it up, trying to bring back segregration at events and schools.
I know who the real racists are"
What segregation? |
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"They quite literally "made that shit up"."
Which bit was made up?
The increasing support for the right wing parties amongst C2DE voters? That is real (took about 20 seconds on Google to confirm). The decreasing support for the Tory's amongst graduates? Also real (young graduates are pretty much the only reliable part of the Labour vote atm - though beginning to shift to the Greens)
So it makes sense for the Tories, assuming they are cynical enough (of which I have no doubt) to ensure that the C2DE votes remain under-educated.
Or were you questioning the claims about their funding preferences? Academy schools - which siphon off more public funds to their supporters, the charitable status of private schools, allowing them to be VAT exempt. These are facts. The revival of grammar schools was merely (as stated) a preference (of Theresa May - remember her?).
So which bit was made up? |
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"Personally i think its a horriblle term and teaches kids to discriminate in regards to race.
Something I thought we wanted to stop
Amazing that the "Anti-racists" are the ones who bring it up, trying to bring back segregration at events and schools.
I know who the real racists are
What segregation?"
Well for one White people having to pay a reperation fee to attend a Pride event in the US ((Portland I belive). While people of colour get to go for free.
Black only areas at the CHAZ and other no-go areas
Thats the US ofcourse but we always mirror what they do later. Plus this rot has infected people here. As we see in the forums
Im sure i could find examples in this country, most likely in student unions or something |
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"Personally i think its a horriblle term and teaches kids to discriminate in regards to race.
Something I thought we wanted to stop
Amazing that the "Anti-racists" are the ones who bring it up, trying to bring back segregration at events and schools.
I know who the real racists are
What segregation?
Well for one White people having to pay a reperation fee to attend a Pride event in the US ((Portland I belive). While people of colour get to go for free.
Black only areas at the CHAZ and other no-go areas
Thats the US ofcourse but we always mirror what they do later. Plus this rot has infected people here. As we see in the forums
Im sure i could find examples in this country, most likely in student unions or something"
So with this in mind, what's your opinion on the OP's post? I don't see anyone championing segregation here. |
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Something I thought we wanted to stop
Amazing that the "Anti-racists" are the ones who bring it up, trying to bring back segregration at events and schools.
I know who the real racists are
What segregation?
Well for one White people having to pay a reperation fee to attend a Pride event in the US ((Portland I belive). While people of colour get to go for free.
Black only areas at the CHAZ and other no-go areas
Thats the US ofcourse but we always mirror what they do later. Plus this rot has infected people here. As we see in the forums
Im sure i could find examples in this country, most likely in student unions or something"
Well I dont know about the us but I've not heard of any segregation here. |
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Excellent article talking about this in The Guardian.
Interesting that the report may actually be breaking the law!
Https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/how-white-working-class-underachievement-has-been-used-to-demonise-antiracism |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays "
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term |
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over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term"
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ? |
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays "
I'm.fairly sute the rich ones didmt go hungry. |
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over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Define Rich Lionel
Well that's a tough one but I'd guess if you qualify for free school meals you are not exactly Brewstered.
What would you happy Lionel ?
In english Thomas?"
You are bitter than the spilling police Lionel |
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?"
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong . |
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over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong ."
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then.. |
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then.. "
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
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"Define Rich Lionel
Well that's a tough one but I'd guess if you qualify for free school meals you are not exactly Brewstered.
What would you happy Lionel ?
In english Thomas?
You are bitter than the spilling police Lionel "
Better
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays "
Chill Tom, the sun will rise again tomorrow |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?"
Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?"
Well some spend on food, some choose to spend on other things and then claim food poverty |
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society? "
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you . |
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over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you ."
This is the UK.
Always has been
Always will be
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you ."
Its not just the uk though is it? but yes i agree that the poorest in society should be helped by the country and chances to better themselves . |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you .Its not just the uk though is it? but yes i agree that the poorest in society should be helped by the country and chances to better themselves ."
And if they don't want your help ? |
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over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you .
This is the UK.
Always has been
Always will be
Get used to it "
Get used to the UK being a Nation unable to
provide work or a living standard for people
To feed themselves ?
Thats not what I think of the UK .
I think it is better than that
Sorry if you disagree . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you .Its not just the uk though is it? but yes i agree that the poorest in society should be helped by the country and chances to better themselves ."
Support them by providing a better living
standard for everyone , then everyone can feed
Themselves . Thats got to be the best outcome surely ? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you .
This is the UK.
Always has been
Always will be
Get used to it
Get used to the UK being a Nation unable to
provide work or a living standard for people
To feed themselves ?
Thats not what I think of the UK .
I think it is better than that
Sorry if you disagree ."
Why should i get used to that when it wont happen? |
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?
Well some spend on food, some choose to spend on other things and then claim food poverty "
You can do better than that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?Isn't that what they are there for helping the poorest in society?
I though they were there to
Govern the people to aspire to bigger & better things .
Not to be so poor you have to rely on handouts to be fed .
Still if thats how you view the UK
That is upto you .
This is the UK.
Always has been
Always will be
Get used to it
Get used to the UK being a Nation unable to
provide work or a living standard for people
To feed themselves ?
Thats not what I think of the UK .
I think it is better than that
Sorry if you disagree .Why should i get used to that when it wont happen?"
I think they confused you with me
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?
Well some spend on food, some choose to spend on other things and then claim food poverty
You can do better than that"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?
Well some spend on food, some choose to spend on other things and then claim food poverty "
What do they spend it on? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Aldi ray to john whittingdale on gmtv..you care about white working class children?
Why did you vote against free school meals?
Boom
To be fair that decision was non descriminatory...noone got free meals in the holidays
Yes they did
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/oct/southwark-council-to-pay-for-free-school-meals-over-half-term
Apart from Southwark Council.. what have the councils done for us ?
It doesnt matter
You said " none got free meals in the holidays "
The link proves your statement,
to be categorically wrong .
So lots got free meals.. what's to worry about then..
The fact that some people are so poor
That councils & government have to help feed them ?
Are you following the thread, or
are you just writing for the sake of writing ?
Well some spend on food, some choose to spend on other things and then claim food poverty
What do they spend it on? "
Gas, Electric, Council Tax, Water Rates
Clothing for the kids ? |
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history. "
If you think words "white privilege" is a problem then you are in for a treat
Coming down the line and already in most of our schools / education is
- Full blown CRT (the most dangerous invention ever made)
- how to abolish whiteness
- whiteness is white supremacy
- your baby is racist (if white)
- if you are not anti racist and actively not warning people about whiteness then you are a white supremacist
If you dont agree with the above then you are probably a white supremacist
The left, the right and every big corporate firm, big tech and all institutions are fully on board with it. They have realised that there are so many self loathing "white people" who are 100% on board with it so have used their weakness to further the agenda.
This is all now going main stream , the full antiwhite machine is full stream ahead and it will get much much worse
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
If you think words "white privilege" is a problem then you are in for a treat
Coming down the line and already in most of our schools / education is
- Full blown CRT (the most dangerous invention ever made)
- how to abolish whiteness
- whiteness is white supremacy
- your baby is racist (if white)
- if you are not anti racist and actively not warning people about whiteness then you are a white supremacist
If you dont agree with the above then you are probably a white supremacist
The left, the right and every big corporate firm, big tech and all institutions are fully on board with it. They have realised that there are so many self loathing "white people" who are 100% on board with it so have used their weakness to further the agenda.
This is all now going main stream , the full antiwhite machine is full stream ahead and it will get much much worse
Enjoy ??
"
What a load of bollocks.
CRT isn't taught in schools in the US (where this latest right wing panic originates), let alone here in the UK.
And it's certainly not what you describe.
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over a year ago
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
If you think words "white privilege" is a problem then you are in for a treat
Coming down the line and already in most of our schools / education is
- Full blown CRT (the most dangerous invention ever made)
- how to abolish whiteness
- whiteness is white supremacy
- your baby is racist (if white)
- if you are not anti racist and actively not warning people about whiteness then you are a white supremacist
If you dont agree with the above then you are probably a white supremacist
The left, the right and every big corporate firm, big tech and all institutions are fully on board with it. They have realised that there are so many self loathing "white people" who are 100% on board with it so have used their weakness to further the agenda.
This is all now going main stream , the full antiwhite machine is full stream ahead and it will get much much worse
Enjoy ??
What a load of bollocks.
CRT isn't taught in schools in the US (where this latest right wing panic originates), let alone here in the UK.
And it's certainly not what you describe.
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The Right leaners seem to just be saying anything
They want at at the moment & all is well .
Let someone on the left speak & all hell breaks lose
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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Daily Mash:. The white person's guide to being a dick about your white privilege
24th June 2021
A REPORT has suggested that the idea of ‘white privilege’ is holding white children back. This is probably bollocks, but why not get angry about it anyway? Here’s how.
Blame all your problems on anti-white prejudice
Do you work in a tedious office instead of, say, being a billionaire with a big, tacky yacht? This is clearly due to people pointing out that racial discrimination is a thing, and not your mediocre GCSE results.
Ignore the obvious benefits of being white
You can drive a BMW without endless police stops. You can go on public transport without some wanker telling you to ‘go home’ despite the fact you were born in Worcestershire. ‘Count your blessings’ is the sort of trite rubbish your mum comes out with, but sometimes it’s true.
Furiously go on Twitter
Don’t bother to consider the whole issue, just type nonsense like ‘When will us Angle Saxons be treated equelly in are own country?’ It’s a proven fact that the most effective way to improve your life – and society in general – is to rant about something on the endless hate-filled snake pit that is Twitter.
Believe everything you read
Culture war bullshit is clearly beneficial to the Tories and newspapers who want clicks. Don’t think about this. Instead assume every media story is 100 per cent true, eg. schools are going to ban The Very Hungry Caterpillar for not being a Rastafarian because some strange Tory MP said so.
Don’t do anything constructive
F**k that. Don’t help your kids with their homework. Instead nurture a deep sense of grievance that you’re being persecuted for being white when your biggest actual real-life problem is needing to get your boiler serviced. |
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
If you think words "white privilege" is a problem then you are in for a treat
Coming down the line and already in most of our schools / education is
- Full blown CRT (the most dangerous invention ever made)
- how to abolish whiteness
- whiteness is white supremacy
- your baby is racist (if white)
- if you are not anti racist and actively not warning people about whiteness then you are a white supremacist
If you dont agree with the above then you are probably a white supremacist
The left, the right and every big corporate firm, big tech and all institutions are fully on board with it. They have realised that there are so many self loathing "white people" who are 100% on board with it so have used their weakness to further the agenda.
This is all now going main stream , the full antiwhite machine is full stream ahead and it will get much much worse
Enjoy ?? "
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"Daily Mash:. The white person's guide to being a dick about your white privilege
24th June 2021
A REPORT has suggested that the idea of ‘white privilege’ is holding white children back. This is probably bollocks, but why not get angry about it anyway? Here’s how.
Blame all your problems on anti-white prejudice
Do you work in a tedious office instead of, say, being a billionaire with a big, tacky yacht? This is clearly due to people pointing out that racial discrimination is a thing, and not your mediocre GCSE results.
Ignore the obvious benefits of being white
You can drive a BMW without endless police stops. You can go on public transport without some wanker telling you to ‘go home’ despite the fact you were born in Worcestershire. ‘Count your blessings’ is the sort of trite rubbish your mum comes out with, but sometimes it’s true.
Furiously go on Twitter
Don’t bother to consider the whole issue, just type nonsense like ‘When will us Angle Saxons be treated equelly in are own country?’ It’s a proven fact that the most effective way to improve your life – and society in general – is to rant about something on the endless hate-filled snake pit that is Twitter.
Believe everything you read
Culture war bullshit is clearly beneficial to the Tories and newspapers who want clicks. Don’t think about this. Instead assume every media story is 100 per cent true, eg. schools are going to ban The Very Hungry Caterpillar for not being a Rastafarian because some strange Tory MP said so.
Don’t do anything constructive
F**k that. Don’t help your kids with their homework. Instead nurture a deep sense of grievance that you’re being persecuted for being white when your biggest actual real-life problem is needing to get your boiler serviced."
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"The use of the term 'white privilige' is not helpful and it contributes so 'systematic neglect' in the schooling of children from low income white families says a Select Committee of MPs. I wonder if this term should be consigned to history.
If you think words "white privilege" is a problem then you are in for a treat
Coming down the line and already in most of our schools / education is
- Full blown CRT (the most dangerous invention ever made)
- how to abolish whiteness
- whiteness is white supremacy
- your baby is racist (if white)
- if you are not anti racist and actively not warning people about whiteness then you are a white supremacist
If you dont agree with the above then you are probably a white supremacist
The left, the right and every big corporate firm, big tech and all institutions are fully on board with it. They have realised that there are so many self loathing "white people" who are 100% on board with it so have used their weakness to further the agenda.
This is all now going main stream , the full antiwhite machine is full stream ahead and it will get much much worse
Enjoy ?? "
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