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“one of the most important public health failures the United Kingdom has ever experienced.”
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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That's the line from the report that sums up the response of our government during the early days of Covid.
The report also lists dozens of failures by our government that “led to many thousands of deaths which could have been avoided”
The report is damning. And Johnson fucked off on holiday when he knew it was coming out so he wouldn't have to talk about it.
Surely we all deserve better from our government.
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over a year ago
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"That's the line from the report that sums up the response of our government during the early days of Covid.
The report also lists dozens of failures by our government that “led to many thousands of deaths which could have been avoided”
The report is damning. And Johnson fucked off on holiday when he knew it was coming out so he wouldn't have to talk about it.
Surely we all deserve better from our government.
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The Tory and Brexit ‘die hards’ got what they voted for and don’t care or deserve better , the rest of us deserve better |
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
The report and title is in past tense - "Experienced".
Should it not be "Experiencing" as with still 53,000 per year quietly dying, it is by no means over.
Taking away social distancing and masks and reopening, telling people to be sensible and responsible. I don't see much of that from the self centred prices walking around supermarkets and other places with no masks on behaving like nothing ever happened.
After hearing of family after family in my area getting ill, some mild but others never coming home then why are we acting like it is all fine?
Kids with family members testing positive should NOT be in schools who ultimately get infected and take it to others at school to then spread it around yet another family of which some loose their lives.
It is by far, not over and no doubt will be in the next damming report. Incompetence of a conspiring, corrupted government. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"That's the line from the report that sums up the response of our government during the early days of Covid.
The report also lists dozens of failures by our government that “led to many thousands of deaths which could have been avoided”
The report is damning. And Johnson fucked off on holiday when he knew it was coming out so he wouldn't have to talk about it.
Surely we all deserve better from our government.
The Tory and Brexit ‘die hards’ got what they voted for and don’t care or deserve better , the rest of us deserve better
Leave told you before Tony Blair boy, if your sick of the UK then fxxk off!"
Charming. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?"
We do.
But when the people who championed Brexit without even knowing its implications became the Government, it should be no surprise that the systematic lack of attention to detail resulted in a calamitous Covid response.
Blagging and winging it only goes so far. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That's the line from the report that sums up the response of our government during the early days of Covid.
The report also lists dozens of failures by our government that “led to many thousands of deaths which could have been avoided”
The report is damning. And Johnson fucked off on holiday when he knew it was coming out so he wouldn't have to talk about it.
Surely we all deserve better from our government.
The Tory and Brexit ‘die hards’ got what they voted for and don’t care or deserve better , the rest of us deserve better
Leave told you before Tony Blair boy, if your sick of the UK then fxxk off!"
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?"
We've deserved it from the 70's when climate campaigners where called "tree huggers" and since scientists warning another pandemic was imminent were called "alarmists"..
Makes you wonder what would have happened if those wanting it, had won and disarmed our Nuclear deterrent..
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?"
yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century "
Google is your friend. At least 12 people said we were due a pandemic and countries needed to prepare. |
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
Google is your friend. At least 12 people said we were due a pandemic and countries needed to prepare."
12 people predicted this covid ? Did the rest of the world prepare ? It started in China and caught them with there pants down aswell mate |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Our failed government said they didn’t realise it was happening. China was locked down since November the year before . Italy was locked down 3 weeks before the UK.
The UK delayed and it cost us deaths, many thousands of deaths. The pandemic couldn’t be predicted, but the forecast of the pandemic making its way west was clear and present …
"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
Google is your friend. At least 12 people said we were due a pandemic and countries needed to prepare. 12 people predicted this covid ? Did the rest of the world prepare ? It started in China and caught them with there pants down aswell mate "
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Preston |
The thing is, ALL main parties would have done exactly the same.
All in favour of lockdown. You couldn't get a cigarette paper between them.
Now they're jockeying for political advantage.
What a bankrupt political class |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century "
To be fair, I don't think I mentioned Brexit at all on this topic. And it was obvious a pandemic was a case of when not if.
The Tories even ran Exercise Cygnus back in 2016 to simulate a pandemic. The findings back then were that we were unprepared for a pandemic. A quote from the report: “The UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors.”
The Tories then proceeded to do fuck all to prepare to face a pandemic.
(It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some people go to to defend our woeful government.)
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The thing is, ALL main parties would have done exactly the same.
All in favour of lockdown. You couldn't get a cigarette paper between them.
Now they're jockeying for political advantage.
What a bankrupt political class"
What on Earth are you even talking about? There were calls from all over the place to lock down. Johnson dithered and did fuck all for far too long. He fianlly locked down, far too late, only because the French President told him if he didn't the borders would get shut down between the UK and France.
Other parties may have also not given huge bungs to mates to buy up unusuable PPE. And they may not have chucked 37 billion at Serco and Harding, married to a Tory MP, to create an insufficient test and trace system. Leaders of other parties may also not have skipped several Cobra meetings early in the pandemic. Hell, some leaders likely wouldn't have been fucking stupid enough to boast about shaking hands with all the patients in a Covid ward.
The whole "they're all the same" argument always rears its head. And it's simply not true. Johnson is much, much worse than the norm. |
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
To be fair, I don't think I mentioned Brexit at all on this topic. And it was obvious a pandemic was a case of when not if.
The Tories even ran Exercise Cygnus back in 2016 to simulate a pandemic. The findings back then were that we were unprepared for a pandemic. A quote from the report: “The UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors.”
The Tories then proceeded to do fuck all to prepare to face a pandemic.
(It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some people go to to defend our woeful government.)
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a case of when not if lol the end of the world is a case of when not if when you die is when not if it’s the worst pandemic for more than a 100 yes no one seen it coming hidsight is great ye he was slow to lockdown and fucked up loads more but there be a few world leaders who done same just pray it’s another 100 years before the next one |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
To be fair, I don't think I mentioned Brexit at all on this topic. And it was obvious a pandemic was a case of when not if.
The Tories even ran Exercise Cygnus back in 2016 to simulate a pandemic. The findings back then were that we were unprepared for a pandemic. A quote from the report: “The UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors.”
The Tories then proceeded to do fuck all to prepare to face a pandemic.
(It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some people go to to defend our woeful government.)
a case of when not if lol the end of the world is a case of when not if when you die is when not if it’s the worst pandemic for more than a 100 yes no one seen it coming hidsight is great ye he was slow to lockdown and fucked up loads more but there be a few world leaders who done same just pray it’s another 100 years before the next one "
Actually, scientists have been warning about a pandemic for years. Bill Gates has too, actually. So it clearly was predicted.
And you seem to have completely ignored what I just posted. There was a pandemic exercise years before the pandemic that found clear failings. How on Earth does that play into your hindsight narrative?
And you seem to be trying to excuse Johnson on the grounds some other leaders may have done badly too? Is that how low the bar is? |
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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago
Gloucestershire |
All supporters of the current administration will say one thing hindsight.
Well actually there was foresight, years of austerity which ruined our health service and social care system. Services at breaking point, even before the pandemic, government being warned about being underprepared for a major health crisis. They ridiculed scientists at every opportunity before the pandemic as part of their rhetoric, remember hunt and hawkins?
They were told to work with local government, they ignored that advice, they were told that herd immunity wouldn’t be effective they delayed lockdown.
There were red flags, the government chose to ignore them, it was deliberate, they were more concerned with ideology and pandering to a base of skeptics and deniers.
This is squarely on them.
They go on about lessons to be learned, this shouldn’t be directed at the adminsitration, but at the electorate. Next time you decide to vote for a tory government, don’t bother, because they are not a responsible government, who put ideology in front of common sense. |
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At start of ww2 we as a country rejected the bungaling waste of space pm and his chums.
We then replaced them all with a multi party coalition.
Its time we as a country did this again.
When youre own gov tells you that the clown in charge is incompetant and responsible for thousands of deaths its time to listen up. |
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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago
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"At start of ww2 we as a country rejected the bungaling waste of space pm and his chums.
We then replaced them all with a multi party coalition.
Its time we as a country did this again.
When youre own gov tells you that the clown in charge is incompetant and responsible for thousands of deaths its time to listen up."
Agreed we need co-operation not division. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century "
Of course it is connected to Brexit!
To be clear, not saying Brexit caused Covid, but we only have THIS govt and their woeful inept handling of the pandemic because of Brexit. This bunch of sorry excuses for ministers were elected in with their unassailable 80 seat majority based on a single issue of “get brexit done”
They are a bunch of unashamed, self serving, disaster capitalist, proto-fascists who Thatcher would be embarrassed to have in the Conservative party.
Anyone who voted for them in 2019 and cannot see this is complicit. You got your brexit, look what else you got (ain’t over yet). |
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
Of course it is connected to Brexit!
To be clear, not saying Brexit caused Covid, but we only have THIS govt and their woeful inept handling of the pandemic because of Brexit. This bunch of sorry excuses for ministers were elected in with their unassailable 80 seat majority based on a single issue of “get brexit done”
They are a bunch of unashamed, self serving, disaster capitalist, proto-fascists who Thatcher would be embarrassed to have in the Conservative party.
Anyone who voted for them in 2019 and cannot see this is complicit. You got your brexit, look what else you got (ain’t over yet)."
yes we got brexit in a democratic vote yet people like you can accept that and it’s the likes of you who is dividing the U.K. if the tories are winning elections it’s simply the fault of the opposition or lack of |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
Of course it is connected to Brexit!
To be clear, not saying Brexit caused Covid, but we only have THIS govt and their woeful inept handling of the pandemic because of Brexit. This bunch of sorry excuses for ministers were elected in with their unassailable 80 seat majority based on a single issue of “get brexit done”
They are a bunch of unashamed, self serving, disaster capitalist, proto-fascists who Thatcher would be embarrassed to have in the Conservative party.
Anyone who voted for them in 2019 and cannot see this is complicit. You got your brexit, look what else you got (ain’t over yet).yes we got brexit in a democratic vote yet people like you can accept that and it’s the likes of you who is dividing the U.K. if the tories are winning elections it’s simply the fault of the opposition or lack of "
So did people vote a Boris Johnson led Conservative party into government primarily (or evenly exclusively) on the basis of “get brexit done”?
The answer is yes.
So those who voted for them got the government they wanted ergo they must be happy with this government and their performance.
Maybe, just maybe, if people had been less obsessed with Brexit and actually looked at the type of people (and their policies and voting history) they might have thought twice. But not they wanted brexit at all cost.
Well that cost has been extremely high because, as I have said, these people are inept and only in the Cabinet because of their support for Johnson and brexit.
There are plenty of very capable tories (regardless of politics) but none of them are in government.
I’m ignoring your comment on “people like me” as it is baseless and the democratic validity of the original brexit vote (even though I was talking about 2019 GE) has all manner of holes in it. Not least that it was an advisory referendum and therefore not legally binding. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
Of course it is connected to Brexit!
To be clear, not saying Brexit caused Covid, but we only have THIS govt and their woeful inept handling of the pandemic because of Brexit. This bunch of sorry excuses for ministers were elected in with their unassailable 80 seat majority based on a single issue of “get brexit done”
They are a bunch of unashamed, self serving, disaster capitalist, proto-fascists who Thatcher would be embarrassed to have in the Conservative party.
Anyone who voted for them in 2019 and cannot see this is complicit. You got your brexit, look what else you got (ain’t over yet).yes we got brexit in a democratic vote yet people like you can accept that and it’s the likes of you who is dividing the U.K. if the tories are winning elections it’s simply the fault of the opposition or lack of "
Brexit was voted for. And it has happened. (And is it happening as an ongoing process.) That's simply reality. People accept that. But it doesn't mean they have to pretend Brexit is wonderful when mountains of evidence show it's a disaster.
As to divisions: who the hell do you think divided the country over Brexit in the 1st place? That would be a chap called Cameron. And who do you think widened those divisions when he saw a way to ride the issue into Downing Street? That would be a chap called Johnson.
When it comes to the opposition, you're trotting out a very strange and twisted line that I've seen a lot on social media. Labour are somehow to blame for the the terrible damage the Tories have done to this country. Eh? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
Yep, people who voted for the face eating leopard party are now upset that the leopards are eating their faces so decide to blame the party they didn’t vote for!
The mental gymnastics Brexit supporters are contorting into to explain this shitshow is breathtaking. It’s all the fault of remain supporters that the project fear we warned about is becoming project reality.
Here’s the crux of it...
The referendum asked one binary question (in a non binding advisory referendum no less):
Should the UK leave the EU Yes/No
Everyone who voted No (ie remain) voted for the status quo, for this to be as they were.
Those who voted to leave however had multiple different versions of what that meant in practice:
- Hard Brexit
- Soft Brexit (abide by some EU rules for continued access to CM etc)
- Norway style (EEA)
- etc
The UK Govt (led by Cameron) were so arrogant they simply didn’t believe the vote would go against them (ie Cameron was remain). But they should have been 100% committed to a two stage referendum so that once the vote to leave was confirmed a second referendum should have been held to determine our future relationship with the EU.
THAT would have been democratic and would have been more acceptable to many of those who voted remain.
Instead you ask 10 people who voted leave what they wanted as an outcome and you get 10 answers (including some who simply didn’t know and hadn’t really thought it through but just wanted to stick it to Cameron/the establishment). |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
And to add to that, the cornerstone of many people’s reasons for being anti-EU was the concept that the EU bullied the UK and forced us to accept a tonne of legislation.
A complete fallacy that conveniently ignored:
- the UK was the 2nd biggest economy in EU
- the UK was the 1st most powerful military in EU
- the UK was part of the EU jointly making the legislation
- B/w 98-99% of EU legislation was supported/ratified by UK
- The UK had a veto
- The UK had a unique position in the EU enjoying all the benefits while retaining our own currency and not being part of Schengen
And yet apparently the UK was too weak to not be bullied by the other EU countries! Aww poor little weak UK!
AND the same people making that argument go on to tell us that the UK is a lion on the world stage that will be able to go toe-to-toe with everyone else in securing trade deals etc. It is non-sensical.
We can’t even negotiate a deal with Australia (that has a fifth of our population) that favours the UK! Good luck with USA, China and India! |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Yep, people who voted for the face eating leopard party are now upset that the leopards are eating their faces so decide to blame the party they didn’t vote for!
The mental gymnastics Brexit supporters are contorting into to explain this shitshow is breathtaking. It’s all the fault of remain supporters that the project fear we warned about is becoming project reality.
Here’s the crux of it...
The referendum asked one binary question (in a non binding advisory referendum no less):
Should the UK leave the EU Yes/No
Everyone who voted No (ie remain) voted for the status quo, for this to be as they were.
Those who voted to leave however had multiple different versions of what that meant in practice:
- Hard Brexit
- Soft Brexit (abide by some EU rules for continued access to CM etc)
- Norway style (EEA)
- etc
The UK Govt (led by Cameron) were so arrogant they simply didn’t believe the vote would go against them (ie Cameron was remain). But they should have been 100% committed to a two stage referendum so that once the vote to leave was confirmed a second referendum should have been held to determine our future relationship with the EU.
THAT would have been democratic and would have been more acceptable to many of those who voted remain.
Instead you ask 10 people who voted leave what they wanted as an outcome and you get 10 answers (including some who simply didn’t know and hadn’t really thought it through but just wanted to stick it to Cameron/the establishment)."
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as. "
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Back to the main topic. The report was damning. Don't we deserve better from our government?yes we all do but to be fair it’s got nothing to do with brexit know one predicted the worse pandemic in a century
Of course it is connected to Brexit!
To be clear, not saying Brexit caused Covid, but we only have THIS govt and their woeful inept handling of the pandemic because of Brexit. This bunch of sorry excuses for ministers were elected in with their unassailable 80 seat majority based on a single issue of “get brexit done”
They are a bunch of unashamed, self serving, disaster capitalist, proto-fascists who Thatcher would be embarrassed to have in the Conservative party.
Anyone who voted for them in 2019 and cannot see this is complicit. You got your brexit, look what else you got (ain’t over yet).yes we got brexit in a democratic vote yet people like you can accept that and it’s the likes of you who is dividing the U.K. if the tories are winning elections it’s simply the fault of the opposition or lack of "
It took a while gong down this thread to spot a grain of unbiased common sense, but here it is at last. Makes a change to see something other than the usual self assured rants. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!"
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea? "
Too early, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as. "
Since when does a leaflet from a political party have carry any weight ?  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea? "
It’ll happen!
You can’t have it both ways. When remainers ask where the benefits are we are told to wait, too early, long term programme etc. So we’re waiting and in the meantime we will point out each time something that was labelled as project fear becomes project reality.
Personally I really hope leave voters were right and folks like me have to eat our hat. Otherwise we are fucked! |
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea?
Too early, "
yet not too early to judge brexit and the future of the U.K. tho hmmm |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Given our special status in the EU, brexit was always a one way door in my mind. It would have to be an almighty fuck up for there to be enough ppl to say they'd go back and adopt the euro etc.
We have to crack on with what we have now. But that doesn't mean ppl can't hold others to account for decisions made or beliefs proved to be wrong. ... That's part of any learning process. |
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea?
Too early, yet not too early to judge brexit and the future of the U.K. tho hmmm"
That’s correct, way too early, when did you first decide you wanted the UK to leave the EU? |
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea?
Too early, yet not too early to judge brexit and the future of the U.K. tho hmmm"
Yes, let's stand back and say nothing whilst the current bunch of idiots drive the country into the floor  |
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea?
Too early, yet not too early to judge brexit and the future of the U.K. tho hmmm
Yes, let's stand back and say nothing whilst the current bunch of idiots drive the country into the floor "
no don’t stand back jump up and down shouting I’m sure it eases your stress |
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"The leaflet that tbe Cameron goverment sent to every household, quite clearly stated that "the Goverment would respect the outcome of the referendum and implement its result"
Not legally binding as such (it was tested in the courts) but as good as.
Yep I blame Cameron for most of this. His arrogance was his undoing along with his spineless reaction to right wing aspects of his own party running scared from whatever Farage’s next scam, I mean political party, was up next.
Of course the likes of Cameron are insulated from the impact by their immense wealth. It’s all a fucking game to them!
If Farage was such a factor, with such a new and niche political party, and Brexit is a disaster, then where is the "take us back in" party?
Surely there are many investors in such an idea?
Too early, yet not too early to judge brexit and the future of the U.K. tho hmmm
Yes, let's stand back and say nothing whilst the current bunch of idiots drive the country into the floor no don’t stand back jump up and down shouting I’m sure it eases your stress "
What stress, I'm not the one whose beloved brexit is going tits up |
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