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over a year ago
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again. "
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr) |
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"Why should a woman's capability be judged on how she sounds  "
I don't think it's about how she sounds, it's about how it's used against her. Remember, Ed Miliband's capabilities were judged on how he ate a bacon sandwich  |
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"Why should a woman's capability be judged on how she sounds "
Same can be said of any male
Politician too. It just so happens the news is about a reshuffle involving (directly or indirectly) a female MP. I don't think gender/sex has anything to do with it.
Her eloquence, political charisma and ability to coherently deliver a message are however important factors that contribute to how electable she is. She is clearly electable at a local level. She may not be at a national level. Opinions may however vary. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Why should a woman's capability be judged on how she sounds
I don't think it's about how she sounds, it's about how it's used against her. Remember, Ed Miliband's capabilities were judged on how he ate a bacon sandwich "
And righly so.. nobody should eat a bacon sandwich like that.. no wonder he was not voted in.. |
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Why should northern accents sound bad to southerners. That seems to be the reality of this question but joking aside no one could stand JC because he spoke the truth and unfortunately truth is not good in politics anymore in this country as facing reality is not wanted anymore . KS and Bojo are just both stooges of the real controlling group in British Politics that no one dare say openly |
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"Why should northern accents sound bad to southerners. That seems to be the reality of this question but joking aside no one could stand JC because he spoke the truth and unfortunately truth is not good in politics anymore in this country as facing reality is not wanted anymore . KS and Bojo are just both stooges of the real controlling group in British Politics that no one dare say openly "
Not quite 50/50 but 4 of 10 of most recent PMs have been northerners.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"Why should northern accents sound bad to southerners. That seems to be the reality of this question but joking aside no one could stand JC because he spoke the truth and unfortunately truth is not good in politics anymore in this country as facing reality is not wanted anymore . KS and Bojo are just both stooges of the real controlling group in British Politics that no one dare say openly "
Oh go on.. say it openly.. |
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"Why should a woman's capability be judged on how she sounds
I don't think it's about how she sounds, it's about how it's used against her. Remember, Ed Miliband's capabilities were judged on how he ate a bacon sandwich
And righly so.. nobody should eat a bacon sandwich like that.. no wonder he was not voted in.."
Sounds like something a bunch of snowflakes would get uptight over  |
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"God forbid a northerner could be intelligent and capable eh… "
I was going to cite Yvette Cooper, but like Blair and Brown she’s also from Scotland. So that backfired. Northern at least.  |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Why should a woman's capability be judged on how she sounds
I don't think it's about how she sounds, it's about how it's used against her. Remember, Ed Miliband's capabilities were judged on how he ate a bacon sandwich
And righly so.. nobody should eat a bacon sandwich like that.. no wonder he was not voted in..
Sounds like something a bunch of snowflakes would get uptight over "
If you cannot eat a bacon sandwich then you are out of touch..
The poor fellow lost the election on a bacon roll..
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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
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"Is Angela Rayner totally unelctable as a leader because of her accent ?"
This actually a good point. There is some research out there that does say how we look and sound can effect career prospects. |
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"God forbid a northerner could be intelligent and capable eh…
I was going to cite Yvette Cooper, but like Blair and Brown she’s also from Scotland. So that backfired. Northern at least. "
Ha! Yeah she’s the highest northern politician we’ve got right now.. there aren’t many examples of top northern politicians. They can’t understand us clearly…  |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Why should northern accents sound bad to southerners. That seems to be the reality of this question but joking aside no one could stand JC because he spoke the truth and unfortunately truth is not good in politics anymore in this country as facing reality is not wanted anymore . KS and Bojo are just both stooges of the real controlling group in British Politics that no one dare say openly "
I think Corby said they won the debate but not the election.. poor deluded fool.
He won neither |
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"God forbid a northerner could be intelligent and capable eh…
I was going to cite Yvette Cooper, but like Blair and Brown she’s also from Scotland. So that backfired. Northern at least.
Ha! Yeah she’s the highest northern politician we’ve got right now.. there aren’t many examples of top northern politicians. They can’t understand us clearly… "
Just googled the MP Map of UK….. holy fk! There’s not much red to choose from is there! |
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"God forbid a northerner could be intelligent and capable eh…
I was going to cite Yvette Cooper, but like Blair and Brown she’s also from Scotland. So that backfired. Northern at least.
Ha! Yeah she’s the highest northern politician we’ve got right now.. there aren’t many examples of top northern politicians. They can’t understand us clearly…
Just googled the MP Map of UK….. holy fk! There’s not much red to choose from is there! "
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"God forbid a northerner could be intelligent and capable eh…
I was going to cite Yvette Cooper, but like Blair and Brown she’s also from Scotland. So that backfired. Northern at least.
Ha! Yeah she’s the highest northern politician we’ve got right now.. there aren’t many examples of top northern politicians. They can’t understand us clearly…
Just googled the MP Map of UK….. holy fk! There’s not much red to choose from is there! "
no there’s not as much as the red landslide of 97. Labour have lost the socialist vote in Scotland to the SNP and in the north of England where they had seats with huge majorities less than ten years ago they’ve lost to the tories. Well apart from Liverpool. The reason is surely not because that Boris sells is so well? I can understand it in Scotland as the snp are a better socialist option for them |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Is Angela Rayner totally unelctable as a leader because of her accent ?
This actually a good point. There is some research out there that does say how we look and sound can effect career prospects."
While it is clearly completely unjust this is indeed correct. The right accent does help. Different accents have subliminal connotations that sadly permeate some workplaces (including politics). It’s one reason why we so many posh private school boys in Govt - an assumption they are well educated |
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"Is Angela Rayner totally unelctable as a leader because of her accent ?"
Some people of definitely stupid enough to be swayed with an accent. In one of the other threads people were calling her a "bottom feeder" because she is working class and didn't goto Eton.
The electorate prefer voting for clowns with accents like Jacob Rees Mogg, even though his main policies are "how rich can I get from this", and "A fictional character tells me I have to vote against gay rights, every time". |
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"Is Angela Rayner totally unelctable as a leader because of her accent ?
Some people of definitely stupid enough to be swayed with an accent. In one of the other threads people were calling her a "bottom feeder" because she is working class and didn't goto Eton.
The electorate prefer voting for clowns with accents like Jacob Rees Mogg, even though his main policies are "how rich can I get from this", and "A fictional character tells me I have to vote against gay rights, every time". "
The fetlock tuggers have been taught to bow down and ‘respect’ a posh accent, |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)"
you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl "
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show "
hahaha spot on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on "
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. "
im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday"
Neither are going to be considered world class public speakers I suspect. |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday"
People vote for Toff accents more though. In general.
Which is a shocking state of affairs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday
People vote for Toff accents more though. In general.
Which is a shocking state of affairs."
It should be about what words are spoken rather than the accent, unfortunately in the UK people equate a posh accent with intelligence  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday
People vote for Toff accents more though. In general.
Which is a shocking state of affairs.
It should be about what words are spoken rather than the accent, unfortunately in the UK people equate a posh accent with intelligence "
Harry Enfield’s Tim nice but dim, often springs to mind. I have met some incredibly intelligent posh people (speak quite nicely myself) but have also met some absolute shockers who have somehow managed to get on in life because of their accent despite being quite clearly thick! |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday
People vote for Toff accents more though. In general.
Which is a shocking state of affairs.
It should be about what words are spoken rather than the accent, unfortunately in the UK people equate a posh accent with intelligence
Harry Enfield’s Tim nice but dim, often springs to mind. I have met some incredibly intelligent posh people (speak quite nicely myself) but have also met some absolute shockers who have somehow managed to get on in life because of their accent despite being quite clearly thick!"
I blame the ‘class system ‘ |
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"Watch Boris's speech abilities then ask that question again.
To be fair peppa pig aside, i find Boris far easier to listen to than AR. YC is usually far more eloquent on QT so a good face to return to the leadership team.
She’s very dull and sounds more like a parish council leader than the leader in waiting of a global power.
And I say this as (usually) a Labour voter. (Mr)you find Boris easier to listen too wtf he’s a bumbling loon I can’t understand a word most times pmsl
He sounds like the d*unk bloke on the fast show hahaha spot on
He does. But easier on the ear still. Question was about sound not content. AR sounds like a cat dancing on a blackboard to my ears. im talking about his sound it’s horrendous and bumbling give me a regional accent over a toffs accent anyday
People vote for Toff accents more though. In general.
Which is a shocking state of affairs."
aint it just it’s a pity tho |
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A little surprising amongst all this talk of accents, regionality and class - nobody has actually pointed to the amazing policies, ability to build strong working relationships across the floor of the house and close working relationship with other party leadership colleagues and signs of strengths which like it or not should trump any accent re electability.
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"A little surprising amongst all this talk of accents, regionality and class - nobody has actually pointed to the amazing policies, ability to build strong working relationships across the floor of the house and close working relationship with other party leadership colleagues and signs of strengths which like it or not should trump any accent re electability.
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You are absolutely correct except as we all know that isn’t what large swathes of the voting public actually take into account! |
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"It sounds as if some on here beliy that not everyone should have the vote... Is that true ?"
Care to share which post gives you that impression? Can’t say I see that notion explicitly or otherwise.
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"It sounds as if some on here beliy that not everyone should have the vote... Is that true ?
Care to share which post gives you that impression? Can’t say I see that notion explicitly or otherwise.
Is there a degree of merd churning in your question? Asking for a friend "
Mine. I don't think the British should be allowed to vote in the UK elections. |
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"It sounds as if some on here beliy that not everyone should have the vote... Is that true ?
Care to share which post gives you that impression? Can’t say I see that notion explicitly or otherwise.
Is there a degree of merd churning in your question? Asking for a friend
Mine. I don't think the British should be allowed to vote in the UK elections. "
What should we vote in then? EU elections? |
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"It sounds as if some on here beliy that not everyone should have the vote... Is that true ?
Care to share which post gives you that impression? Can’t say I see that notion explicitly or otherwise.
Is there a degree of merd churning in your question? Asking for a friend
Mine. I don't think the British should be allowed to vote in the UK elections.
What should we vote in then? EU elections? "
None. Can't be trusted |
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