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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Found it!!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/18253582/nutritionist-healthy-30p-meals-cost-of-living-crisis/"
Can a bowl of porridge or soup be classed as a meal..?
I thought they are starters. |
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30p restricts your diet a bit too much but it is perfectly possible to eat 3 nutritious meals a day for less than £2 a head. 50p each for breakfast and lunch then £1 for the evening meal.
We cook everything from scratch and have been doing this for years. We never buy overpriced rubbish such as pasta sauce, make your own from a tin of tomatoes and some herbs. Etc.... |
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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago
Gloucestershire |
How can someone cook if there is no food?
The MP is a proper bellend.
Also if they advising you live on porridge it might as well be saying subsist on Gruel.
What is going to be then next radical policy from the tories? Workhouses?
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
In theory you can do this... Although im not convinced by the costs (or that a nutritionist isn't always a qualified person)
But I remember seeing something that says the challenge is the bulk buy of things, and then the transportation. The first put strain on budget. But the second can be the problem. How much weight is a week's worth of ship for 4. Can you carry that on the bus? Walk with it?
We often take cars for granted. Not everyone has that luxury. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
Has anyone actually done the maths on all of this. Obviously it is possible to eat cheaply but is that really going to provide the right nutrition and balanced diet we all actually need to be healthy.
Does that 30p really provide 5 portions of fruit and 5 portions of vegetables each day? Where’s the protein? Fish or meat? And even if you can get all that for 30p or 50p or £1 etc, what quality will it be?
The only way to get meat that cheaply will be to open the floodgates to low quality hormone injected meat from USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand...aha so that is the plan! Create demand through poverty! |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
So I just did a quick google on price of apples and the cheapest I could find was 16p each.
So I guess you could eat two apples, break your 30p budget by 2p and be short of fruit and veg portions by 8 each day. Sure that would be fine for your health though right? |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
"So I just did a quick google on price of apples and the cheapest I could find was 16p each.
So I guess you could eat two apples, break your 30p budget by 2p and be short of fruit and veg portions by 8 each day. Sure that would be fine for your health though right?"
isn't it 3 meals a day. So six apples. Isn't that better ... Ps they better had been British apples.  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"30p restricts your diet a bit too much but it is perfectly possible to eat 3 nutritious meals a day for less than £2 a head. 50p each for breakfast and lunch then £1 for the evening meal.
We cook everything from scratch and have been doing this for years. We never buy overpriced rubbish such as pasta sauce, make your own from a tin of tomatoes and some herbs. Etc...."
Not disputing (actually in awe of the £2 per head for three meals).
Genuine question - can you provide a menu with ingredients to illustrate how this is possible?
We also prepare and cook our own food. Luckily for us this is not a financial decision but more a quality and controlling additives decision. We eat a lot of fish and a bit of meat. We are pretty good with our fruit and veg. No way we are spending as little as £2 per head per day though. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Thought maybe I had moved to a first world country. My mistake. "
5/6th richest country in the world no less. Shame so much of that wealth is owned by such a small % of the population. Looks like the “trickle down” hasn’t happened! |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"A condition of using the Sutton n Ashfield food bank, is that long term particpants sign up for budgetary and cooking classes, supplied by outside agencies."
On the surface that is a good thing and good skills to have (if somewhat patronising).
But...
Call me a cynic but who are the agency providing those classes and who are they connected to? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"A condition of using the Sutton n Ashfield food bank, is that long term particpants sign up for budgetary and cooking classes, supplied by outside agencies.
On the surface that is a good thing and good skills to have (if somewhat patronising).
But...
Call me a cynic but who are the agency providing those classes and who are they connected to?"
Yup and who’s making money from it  |
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Genuine question - can you provide a menu with ingredients to illustrate how this is possible?
We also prepare and cook our own food. Luckily for us this is not a financial decision but more a quality and controlling additives decision. We eat a lot of fish and a bit of meat. We are pretty good with our fruit and veg. No way we are spending as little as £2 per head per day though. "
So, like you we don't particularly need to limit our food spend but we eat healthily at around £2 per head per day. We cook from scratch because we prefer the taste and we like to know what is in our food.
We do all our shopping in Lidl, as we find it has everything we need as we cook from basic ingredients. We buy whatever is on offer that week and then make meal plans to suit. We will also buy any meat at the end of its date at 30% off and freeze it. Also, salad etc. is often 20p and they also often have 5kg veg boxes at £1.50 where the veg is past its' best but still usable.
This week's offers we will pick up are 5 apples for 59p, 600g satsumas for 69p, 1kg red onions at 69p and a bunch of spring onions for 29p.
Even at full price an example is 1 kg chicken thighs (British red tractor approved but not free range etc.) is £1.55. This does 6 portions for us so 2 days for the three of us. We slow cook them in the slow cooker with some spices and do a "Mexican" comprising refried beans (33p can chickpeas and half an onion); salsa (other half onion and a few small vine tomatoes); guacamole (avocado at 59 to 79p and half an onion); served in romaine heart leaves. Total for 3 portions a bit over £3 including things like fresh coriander. But the next day we have the rest of the chicken in a curry with a handful of lentils, a pepper, the other half onion, a tin of tomatoes and some rice - total about £2 for 3 portions.
There will be curry left over so our daughter takes it to school for lunch - this meal is therefore "free".
We eat vegetarian 2 or 3 times a week so those meals are less than £1 a head then sometimes we eat beef or lamb which is more than the £1 allowance. Fish, depending on how much you eat and what you serve it with is also slightly more. On average though it is perfectly possible.
Breakfast is usually 2 of the Lidl "fake Weetabix" at 6p each plus milk some sultanas, glass of orange juice and a coffee. Slightly less than 50p.
Lunch may be home made bread with cheese and pickle or ham and lettuce; an apple, a few grapes and a satsuma. Slightly more than 50p on the ham days.
Veg box stuff will make a soup in the slow cooker - probably one evening for the three of us plus 3 school lunches.
Sausage or bacon pasta using the high quality no additive RSPCA approved meat (£2) plus pasta (12p); a tin of tomatoes (28p); onion (10p); herbs and spices (10p) and shavings of parmesan (10p) is under £1 a head with left overs for school lunch next day.
We don't throw anything away - even meat and veg which people have served but not eaten goes into the curry or soup next day.
We plan the meals so if we know we will have leftovers they are used the next day or frozen (we freeze the Christmas Dinner leftovers and make pies with it in January and February).
Again, we do this because we like it and it is more environmentally friendly - not because we "need" to. |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it."
It takes him 8 minutes? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think he meant to say "30p a portion" Still, he's waffling nonsense. You should check out Jack Monroe on anti social media or Google her, she is great for cooking on a very tight budget  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Found it!!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/18253582/nutritionist-healthy-30p-meals-cost-of-living-crisis/"
Are you supporting Lee Anderson on this ? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
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Genuine question - can you provide a menu with ingredients to illustrate how this is possible?
We also prepare and cook our own food. Luckily for us this is not a financial decision but more a quality and controlling additives decision. We eat a lot of fish and a bit of meat. We are pretty good with our fruit and veg. No way we are spending as little as £2 per head per day though.
So, like you we don't particularly need to limit our food spend but we eat healthily at around £2 per head per day. We cook from scratch because we prefer the taste and we like to know what is in our food.
We do all our shopping in Lidl, as we find it has everything we need as we cook from basic ingredients. We buy whatever is on offer that week and then make meal plans to suit. We will also buy any meat at the end of its date at 30% off and freeze it. Also, salad etc. is often 20p and they also often have 5kg veg boxes at £1.50 where the veg is past its' best but still usable.
This week's offers we will pick up are 5 apples for 59p, 600g satsumas for 69p, 1kg red onions at 69p and a bunch of spring onions for 29p.
Even at full price an example is 1 kg chicken thighs (British red tractor approved but not free range etc.) is £1.55. This does 6 portions for us so 2 days for the three of us. We slow cook them in the slow cooker with some spices and do a "Mexican" comprising refried beans (33p can chickpeas and half an onion); salsa (other half onion and a few small vine tomatoes); guacamole (avocado at 59 to 79p and half an onion); served in romaine heart leaves. Total for 3 portions a bit over £3 including things like fresh coriander. But the next day we have the rest of the chicken in a curry with a handful of lentils, a pepper, the other half onion, a tin of tomatoes and some rice - total about £2 for 3 portions.
There will be curry left over so our daughter takes it to school for lunch - this meal is therefore "free".
We eat vegetarian 2 or 3 times a week so those meals are less than £1 a head then sometimes we eat beef or lamb which is more than the £1 allowance. Fish, depending on how much you eat and what you serve it with is also slightly more. On average though it is perfectly possible.
Breakfast is usually 2 of the Lidl "fake Weetabix" at 6p each plus milk some sultanas, glass of orange juice and a coffee. Slightly less than 50p.
Lunch may be home made bread with cheese and pickle or ham and lettuce; an apple, a few grapes and a satsuma. Slightly more than 50p on the ham days.
Veg box stuff will make a soup in the slow cooker - probably one evening for the three of us plus 3 school lunches.
Sausage or bacon pasta using the high quality no additive RSPCA approved meat (£2) plus pasta (12p); a tin of tomatoes (28p); onion (10p); herbs and spices (10p) and shavings of parmesan (10p) is under £1 a head with left overs for school lunch next day.
We don't throw anything away - even meat and veg which people have served but not eaten goes into the curry or soup next day.
We plan the meals so if we know we will have leftovers they are used the next day or frozen (we freeze the Christmas Dinner leftovers and make pies with it in January and February).
Again, we do this because we like it and it is more environmentally friendly - not because we "need" to."
Awesome!
I have copied that into my notes and will look at doing something similar for a few weeks to see how we get on. We thought we were pretty good at eating well but at sensible prices but you guys have taken it to another level.
Love it. |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"I think he meant to say "30p a portion" Still, he's waffling nonsense. You should check out Jack Monroe on anti social media or Google her, she is great for cooking on a very tight budget "
No he is not 100% correct, truth hurts, cant have people told the truth any more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think he meant to say "30p a portion" Still, he's waffling nonsense. You should check out Jack Monroe on anti social media or Google her, she is great for cooking on a very tight budget
No he is not 100% correct, truth hurts, cant have people told the truth any more."
He is just another Tory who is living in La La land abs is rightly being ridiculed , these buffoons provide so much comedy |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
Wiltshire and London |
I was digging the garden just now, and the amount of worms gave me pause for thought. Free grub(s)!
Mind you, the shits in government would still be claiming back the gardening costs on expenses. |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
My take: budgeting and food prep will be beneficial to some (possibly many). We don't teach the basocs at school and so any issues will be passed down thru generations.
It's great the food bank is doing those courses. We shouldn't be relying on volunteers to provide basic life skills like this. Politicians should be looking at something startegic. Could be part of leveling up.
But that's a longer burn. If you live hand to mouth today it's really hard to break the cycle. Eating cheaply often needs a larder of food. Where does that money come from? How is it transported? How is it stored? (Often ppl are freezing bulk made food. Not always possible)
Suggesting long term ideas can feel tone deaf when ppl are facing short term issues. Exacerbated by price increases. Especially if they are relying on some state beenfits (I assume these haven't increase by 10pc....)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All be it I agree about leaving to cook prepare food even I couldn't do it for 30 unless I cooked enough for 3 months but then can't store it freezer not big enough. |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.."
an MP with zero life experience then no change there |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there "
Not done your homework have you he brought up 2 children on his own,but it makes you feel better posting crap. |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
Hitchin |
"I think he meant to say "30p a portion" Still, he's waffling nonsense. You should check out Jack Monroe on anti social media or Google her, she is great for cooking on a very tight budget
No he is not 100% correct, truth hurts, cant have people told the truth any more.
He is just another Tory who is living in La La land abs is rightly being ridiculed , these buffoons provide so much comedy "
Its be cause he is a Tory is it well he saw the light left Labour and joined the Torys,cant knock a man for that. |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there "
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
Not done your homework have you he brought up 2 children on his own,but it makes you feel better posting crap."
not on 30 pence a day he didn’t get a grip |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
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Careful they can't take the truth,they will need a lay down  |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
Not done your homework have you he brought up 2 children on his own,but it makes you feel better posting crap. not on 30 pence a day he didn’t get a grip "
I'd put money on the fact you have not seen the full speech or you would understand what he was putting across. |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
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having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
Not done your homework have you he brought up 2 children on his own,but it makes you feel better posting crap. not on 30 pence a day he didn’t get a grip
I'd put money on the fact you have not seen the full speech or you would understand what he was putting across."
you would win your bet mate iv not seen it I’m commenting on the 30 pence a day |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
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hats of to him then but he didn’t feed his kids on 30 pence a day tho |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
hats of to him then but he didn’t feed his kids on 30 pence a day tho "
he probably didn't. But the suggestion was zero life experience. Not sure if we can ask MPs to experience everything they comment on first hand.
Appears he may work closely with the food banks. I wonder if the 30p is a number they recognise ... |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
Not done your homework have you he brought up 2 children on his own,but it makes you feel better posting crap. not on 30 pence a day he didn’t get a grip
I'd put money on the fact you have not seen the full speech or you would understand what he was putting across.you would win your bet mate iv not seen it I’m commenting on the 30 pence a day "
Do your self a favour listen to it before commenting. |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
hats of to him then but he didn’t feed his kids on 30 pence a day tho he probably didn't. But the suggestion was zero life experience. Not sure if we can ask MPs to experience everything they comment on first hand.
Appears he may work closely with the food banks. I wonder if the 30p is a number they recognise ..."
I was saying if he said he can feed kids on 30 pence a day he’s got zero life experience hats of to him for what he’s done in his past but you know and I know 30 pence a day is nothing it’s just rubbish just my opinion |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
Not done your homework have you he brought up 2 children on his own,but it makes you feel better posting crap. not on 30 pence a day he didn’t get a grip
I'd put money on the fact you have not seen the full speech or you would understand what he was putting across.you would win your bet mate iv not seen it I’m commenting on the 30 pence a day
Do your self a favour listen to it before commenting. "
ffs it’s a politics forum is it the rules that you have to research every post ffs I’m just commenting on the op if that’s ok with you lol |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
hats of to him then but he didn’t feed his kids on 30 pence a day tho he probably didn't. But the suggestion was zero life experience. Not sure if we can ask MPs to experience everything they comment on first hand.
Appears he may work closely with the food banks. I wonder if the 30p is a number they recognise ..."
He has been criticised by several charities and even fellow Tory MPs, maybe his advice was well intentioned though |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it."
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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When challenged on his 30p figure in a interview.
He said restaurants and hospitals do it everyday by bulk buying and saving money. Hardly feasible for most people on low incomes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said."
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
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Sometimes people from a certain section of society escape it and join another section. They sometimes feel they have to prove themselves they belong there. So they try a bit harder than they otherwise would.
Like our honourable Home Secretary. A daughter of immigrants. Who now feels she has to be tougher on immigration than everybody else in her current circle. |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said.
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank "
saying there isn't as great a need isn't the same as sayinv there isn't a need, or that those who are serving the need aren't doing a great job.
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"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said.
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank saying there isn't as great a need isn't the same as sayinv there isn't a need, or that those who are serving the need aren't doing a great job.
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Ah, so we need food banks but not as many? Fair enough, he is still talking rubbish about 30p meals |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said.
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank saying there isn't as great a need isn't the same as sayinv there isn't a need, or that those who are serving the need aren't doing a great job.
Ah, so we need food banks but not as many? Fair enough, he is still talking rubbish about 30p meals "
don't disagree on that bit.
I wonder what a sensible amount may be (I'm very blessed that I don't have to budget to this extent)
Whatever the number, being able to budget and cook will help. Not necessarily solve for everyone. But help. |
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"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said.
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank saying there isn't as great a need isn't the same as sayinv there isn't a need, or that those who are serving the need aren't doing a great job.
Ah, so we need food banks but not as many? Fair enough, he is still talking rubbish about 30p meals don't disagree on that bit.
I wonder what a sensible amount may be (I'm very blessed that I don't have to budget to this extent)
Whatever the number, being able to budget and cook will help. Not necessarily solve for everyone. But help. "
That’s true, maybe he should have come up with a more reasonable figure, he has recently stated that it’s possible because it happens in restaurants, |
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I wonder what a sensible amount may be (I'm very blessed that I don't have to budget to this extent)
Whatever the number, being able to budget and cook will help. Not necessarily solve for everyone. But help. "
As we posted above, £2 per head per day for three good meals is easily doable. So he is about 100% out. 30p per head per meal is possible for some meals but means missing out on higher quality ingredients and restricts variety. |
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I mean it's just a diversion tactic. It's the Tories way to change the conversation from their ideological austerity to something that's someone else's fault/responsibility.
Good banks rocketed in number because of the Tories, not because everyone suddenly forgot how to budget. |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said.
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank saying there isn't as great a need isn't the same as sayinv there isn't a need, or that those who are serving the need aren't doing a great job.
Ah, so we need food banks but not as many? Fair enough, he is still talking rubbish about 30p meals don't disagree on that bit.
I wonder what a sensible amount may be (I'm very blessed that I don't have to budget to this extent)
Whatever the number, being able to budget and cook will help. Not necessarily solve for everyone. But help.
That’s true, maybe he should have come up with a more reasonable figure, he has recently stated that it’s possible because it happens in restaurants, "
do you have a link for this? I can only find that he says his food bank serves on a budget. (which TBF is a similar point) |
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I wonder what a sensible amount may be (I'm very blessed that I don't have to budget to this extent)
Whatever the number, being able to budget and cook will help. Not necessarily solve for everyone. But help. "
The point about the lack of cooking skills is definitely there. You see it in the supermarket all the time. Trolleys filled to the brim with frozen ready made meals costing multiples of what it would cost to cook fresh. But I don't think these are the people using foobanks.
Add to that the amount of food we throw in bin because of overbuying there is a issue. |
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"Unless you have watched the full speech from Lee about 8 minutes you are only getting tit bits from newspapers,in the speech he explains it very well un like the media giving very little of it.
I listened to most his speech on Radio 4. The main pointers I got was.
1. The need for foodbanks wasn't has great as the mainstream media portrayed.it.
2. If more people could cook from scratch they wouldn't need food banks.
3. The 30p a meal quote.
4. The training programme at foodbanks in his constituency. Challenging other MPs to visit the foodbanks in his area and see.
5. Saying the MPs and the Media wouldn't visit, because they had an agenda.
Cant think of anything else of note he said.
So he is stating that there isn’t a great need for food banks whilst promoting what is happening in his local food bank saying there isn't as great a need isn't the same as sayinv there isn't a need, or that those who are serving the need aren't doing a great job.
Ah, so we need food banks but not as many? Fair enough, he is still talking rubbish about 30p meals don't disagree on that bit.
I wonder what a sensible amount may be (I'm very blessed that I don't have to budget to this extent)
Whatever the number, being able to budget and cook will help. Not necessarily solve for everyone. But help.
That’s true, maybe he should have come up with a more reasonable figure, he has recently stated that it’s possible because it happens in restaurants, do you have a link for this? I can only find that he says his food bank serves on a budget. (which TBF is a similar point)"
No sorry , no link. Might be on BBC sounds if available. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Jack Monroe wrote a great blog on her website (cooking on a bootstrap) about 4 weeks ago that covers a lot of the comments on this thread. The blog title is "it's not about the pasta, Kevin", thought it might be against rules to post link. It's well worth a read though. |
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"So Ashfield MP, Lee Anderson, reckons people can cook a healthy, nutritional meal for 30p. Am really struggling for a recipe that meets all those criteria.
So am looking for some help from you fabbers.
Also do we need more chefs as MPs so the country can be taught how to cook.. an MP with zero life experience then no change there
A single parent bringing up kids on a minimal budget for 17 years.
Ticks the box don’t you think?
having seen his bio, the flack he is getting is harsh.
Miner for ten years. Then citizen advice for ten. Then went to work for hostels for homeless.
I suspect this is a closer to his heart for him than many.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ready Steady Cook Batch Cooking, Lee Anderson has just posted on YouTube with children they have been helping "
Is this the same Lee Anderson who staged a ‘knock door encounter ‘ on channel 4? What is this latest stunt on YouTube ??
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"I wonder if MPs dining expenses are anywhere near 30p a meal, remember after all we are all in this together.
Wonder what happened to that slogan..  "
Or weren't we supposed to be leveling up.. |
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"I wonder if MPs dining expenses are anywhere near 30p a meal, remember after all we are all in this together.
Wonder what happened to that slogan.. "
haha great point we are all init but not together lol |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"I wonder if MPs dining expenses are anywhere near 30p a meal, remember after all we are all in this together.
Wonder what happened to that slogan.. "
Now that would be a challenge to the parliament kitchens.
The subsidised booze would blow the budget at the first sip. |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh? "
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took. |
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"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh?
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took. "
She ran away because GB ‘news’ are utter shite,who wants to be in that crappy channel , they have about 3 viewers . do you remember when Boris hid in a fridge? |
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"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh?
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took. "
Imagine that!
Ring any bells for anyone else who might have done that before?
In fairness GB news can shove it up their far right conspiracy loving holes! |
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By *AFKA HovisMan
over a year ago
Sindon Swingdon Swindon |
"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh?
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took. "
Wish they'd show the five seconds before. The "I'll run with you" suggests she was running already.
I love the way that this is about starmer focussuonh too much in partygate. Hasn't the last two weeks been about beergate ?
When did SKS last mention partygate ?
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"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh?
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took. "
Why am I not surprised that half wit ran away? |
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"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh?
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took.
Why am I not surprised that half wit ran away? "
Halfwit is 1 word. Just saying... |
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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago
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"Aldi are selling a big bag of carrots for 18p. A family of four could surely survive on them for a couple of days ? Plus a box of matches is 17p so they could burn old newspapers for heat. "
The Daily Mail burns well, it’s full of shit. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"At Lee is trying to help unlike Rupa Huq
who ran away from GB news like a sprinter.
Eh?
Labour MP who ran away from addressing the GB news team very funny watching her, typical labour running away, not seen Barry Gardiner since the Chinese money he took.
Why am I not surprised that half wit ran away?
Halfwit is 1 word. Just saying..."
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"Mitzi why are you so in love with exclamatiom marks? Are you just perpetually outraged after mainlining tabloid bullshit for so long?"
Could it due to her being a dom, she is making sure people ow that |
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"Porridge is breakfast! "
"Fry in butter." Funny that's not in the recipe list. Nor is salt and pepper or cooking oil. Is it an assumption that people have these already? If they don't, it adds to cost.
The recipes are low cost but still way over the 30p claim. But it's The Sun so not too surprised that this isn't accurate. |
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"Porridge is breakfast!
"Fry in butter." Funny that's not in the recipe list. Nor is salt and pepper or cooking oil. Is it an assumption that people have these already? If they don't, it adds to cost.
The recipes are low cost but still way over the 30p claim. But it's The Sun so not too surprised that this isn't accurate. "
FYI: My comment was in relation to the Daal and rice recipe in the link provided earlier.  I don't recommend frying porridge oats...unless you want to. |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
THE STICKS |
Ingredients.
1 Large shovel.
1 tin of beans
1 handful of grass cuttings (plentiful at this time of year)
Shovel up whatever you find squashed flat on the road
simmer in baked beans until tender
Garnish with boiled grass
30p meal
Piece of piss |
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By *ulaMan
over a year ago
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"Ingredients.
1 Large shovel.
1 tin of beans
1 handful of grass cuttings (plentiful at this time of year)
Shovel up whatever you find squashed flat on the road
simmer in baked beans until tender
Garnish with boiled grass
30p meal
Piece of piss"
It is but gone right over your head how |
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"Ingredients.
1 Large shovel.
1 tin of beans
1 handful of grass cuttings (plentiful at this time of year)
Shovel up whatever you find squashed flat on the road
simmer in baked beans until tender
Garnish with boiled grass
30p meal
Piece of piss"
Does the piss accompany the baked bean and grass meal |
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