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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets..." I personally think that we are in the end game for this latest incarnation of Conservatives and unwittingly she may just deliver the ‘coup de grace.’ Not since the end days of John Major’s Government have I sensed such dissatisfaction and dissociation with a sitting Government by so many people. The sense of injustice and unfairness with the way that the Conservatives are operating is no longer going down well now that there is not an EU enemy to rally against. I think that the final irony will be that arguments over Europe has already seen of multiple Conservative Leaders and the consequences of finally achieving Brexit might just see off the Party for a generation or more. Certainly when they do get ousted in the next couple of years, the re-spawning process will undoubtably bring about a very different looking Conservative Party than this one. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets..." May end up doing both, you can never tell these days. Apparently absolutely anyone would be better than Boris. Right up to the point his successor is known, then absolutely anyone is better than Truss/Sunak. Delete as appropriate | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets..." . Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. " Lolz Quality satire. Better than The Onion | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. " Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you  | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you "To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you.  | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. " Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! " He can't tell you, if he did he would have to have you sent to a place no one's heard of.. Not even him.. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you
To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you. "Based on what? She thinks your lazy as well, and she also thinks we are all stupid  | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you
To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you.
Based on what? She thinks your lazy as well, and she also thinks we are all stupid "Truss thinking anyone is stupid is the greatest irony of all! She really is thick as mince. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you
To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you.
Based on what? She thinks your lazy as well, and she also thinks we are all stupid
Truss thinking anyone is stupid is the greatest irony of all! She really is thick as mince."The only people who are thicker than Truss are those that believe what she says and then vote for her | |||
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"Boris was driven by success..
"His own personal success yes. Obviously doesn't give two shits about the country. But he's been PM, perpetuated the reign of the Tories and made their donors millions. He would consider himself successful. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you
To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you.
Based on what? She thinks your lazy as well, and she also thinks we are all stupid
Truss thinking anyone is stupid is the greatest irony of all! She really is thick as mince."Probably just as well most people make judgements on people's achievements and have enough common sense to refrain from making derogatory comments . Liz has set out a masterplan for our success. Lower taxes will result in more tax being collected overall and provide a stimulus to the economy. She will also tackle the woke brigade . | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you
To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you.
Based on what? She thinks your lazy as well, and she also thinks we are all stupid
Truss thinking anyone is stupid is the greatest irony of all! She really is thick as mince. Probably just as well most people make judgements on people's achievements and have enough common sense to refrain from making derogatory comments . Liz has set out a masterplan for our success. Lower taxes will result in more tax being collected overall and provide a stimulus to the economy. She will also tackle the woke brigade . "Liz truss thinks your lazy | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Liz Truss thinks your lazy, in fact, she hates you
To be fair and looking at this objectively, it is more likely you she thinks is lazy and would hate you.
Based on what? She thinks your lazy as well, and she also thinks we are all stupid
Truss thinking anyone is stupid is the greatest irony of all! She really is thick as mince. Probably just as well most people make judgements on people's achievements and have enough common sense to refrain from making derogatory comments . Liz has set out a masterplan for our success. Lower taxes will result in more tax being collected overall and provide a stimulus to the economy. She will also tackle the woke brigade . "Please do list out those successes (quantified not opinion). I would be interested to see how you measure success. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. " I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. " Build on his success? | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Build on his success?" Possibly she will be even more corrupt + even more dishonest. That'd be following in her predecessor's footsteps. (It's not really worth responding to Hay, though. He just trolls on here.) | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions." Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? " The dumb things she says + the fact she struggled to find her way out of a small room she had so recently entered minutes before. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? " Oh come on is that a serious question? | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? " yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is." It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now." But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? " V strange logic there. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? V strange logic there." Why is it? Stupid is someone who shows little intelligence. She attended Merton college Oxford, she was president of the Oxford Liberal Democrats, Secretary of State and in the final 2 in being the chosen to lead the country. Is that someone who is stupid? | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? V strange logic there. Why is it? Stupid is someone who shows little intelligence. She attended Merton college Oxford, she was president of the Oxford Liberal Democrats, Secretary of State and in the final 2 in being the chosen to lead the country. Is that someone who is stupid? " You honestly seem to think only bright people can go to Oxbridge or run for leader of a political party. Um... you're v wrong indeed. I have met plenty of dim people who went to Oxbridge. As for leaders: they do not have to be bright at all. They simply have to appeal to a certain group to get the job. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? " I think you can be both judging by the ample evidence of hubris and incompetence she displays - I mean for god sake she wants Kwasi Kwarteng as her right hand man - two blinkered idiots dragging the country to the brink!  | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? " You seriously think her being one of the last two selected has anything to do with her intelligence, she tried to tell the Russians off pre the invasion but didn't know where she was talking about? Going to lecture Lavrov and forgetting ones brief, class.. She's thick as pig shit and only there as the right wing had no one else viable who will also be as easily controlled.. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? I think you can be both judging by the ample evidence of hubris and incompetence she displays - I mean for god sake she wants Kwasi Kwarteng as her right hand man - two blinkered idiots dragging the country to the brink! "Ah be fair. She was supposedly having an affair with Kwarteng in the past. So maybe she just needs him close for more... intimate moments. | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? V strange logic there. Why is it? Stupid is someone who shows little intelligence. She attended Merton college Oxford, she was president of the Oxford Liberal Democrats, Secretary of State and in the final 2 in being the chosen to lead the country. Is that someone who is stupid? " Is it a sign of being not stupid to say I switched from the lib dems to the conservative party as whilst I was at school the education system was rubbish.. She was at school when the Tories were in power, that's pretty stupid yes? | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... " Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... " Tea sock..nuff said.. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias?" Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Tea sock..nuff said.. "Jeez, you should have heard me pronounce Saoirse, you would have had me back in school | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Tea sock..nuff said..
Jeez, you should have heard me pronounce Saoirse, you would have had me back in school "To be fair that one does me too.. However neither of us are Foreign Secretary and gagging to be PM so we're fine.. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid?" A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. | |||
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"There won't be any real change, Truss is just a new marionette to dangle in front of us all." You are giving the intelligence bar a lift with marionette, I like your style. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. " I hear you, being unprepared or easily flustered is more likely to be shaped from the stress of running for the PM. Stupid as in stupid, is not something I agree with. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. I hear you, being unprepared or easily flustered is more likely to be shaped from the stress of running for the PM. Stupid as in stupid, is not something I agree with. " We clearly disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and she'll prove to be a genius as PM. Somehow, I doubt it. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. I hear you, being unprepared or easily flustered is more likely to be shaped from the stress of running for the PM. Stupid as in stupid, is not something I agree with. We clearly disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and she'll prove to be a genius as PM. Somehow, I doubt it." I'm not expecting her to be a genius, not by a country mile. I do expect her to be a lot more considerate in her words and how she conducts herself. If she gets PM that is. My minimum expectation: she is authentic in everything she does, she considers wisely and she holds the countries best interests at the core of her decisions. That should get us to the next general election without too much trouble. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. I hear you, being unprepared or easily flustered is more likely to be shaped from the stress of running for the PM. Stupid as in stupid, is not something I agree with. We clearly disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and she'll prove to be a genius as PM. Somehow, I doubt it. I'm not expecting her to be a genius, not by a country mile. I do expect her to be a lot more considerate in her words and how she conducts herself. If she gets PM that is. My minimum expectation: she is authentic in everything she does, she considers wisely and she holds the countries best interests at the core of her decisions. That should get us to the next general election without too much trouble. " She's not remotely authentic either. She was a Lib dem who wanted to abolish the monarchy. Then she was a campaigning remainer. Then she was a brexiter. She's like Johnson in that she will say and do anything that she thinks might help her get ahead. She doesn't give a shit about the country. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. I hear you, being unprepared or easily flustered is more likely to be shaped from the stress of running for the PM. Stupid as in stupid, is not something I agree with. We clearly disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and she'll prove to be a genius as PM. Somehow, I doubt it. I'm not expecting her to be a genius, not by a country mile. I do expect her to be a lot more considerate in her words and how she conducts herself. If she gets PM that is. My minimum expectation: she is authentic in everything she does, she considers wisely and she holds the countries best interests at the core of her decisions. That should get us to the next general election without too much trouble. " You will be sadly disappointed if one if your measures is being “authentic”. This is a person who slammed her own education (while a child under the Tories). Who slated her own school (which has been disputed by classmates). Who originally entered politics as a Lib Dem before defecting. Was originally a remainer until she wanted a job in Johnsons Cabinet. She is about as authentic as a £3 coin. She may even have some intelligence academically having studied philosophy politics and economics at Oxford but that intelligence does not appear to translate into anything she does. She has been an awful minister and she is held in very low regard around the world. I doubt her EQ is very high. She is also easily swayed and in thrall to various think tanks. She will be a disaster. Not worse or better than Johnson. Just different. Actually while he is clearly a snake devoid of any form of moral duty to anyone other than himself and his family, Sunak is at least intelligent. I don’t agree with virtually anything he stands for but he has the brains. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! " . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll | |||
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"She cant be any worse than Boris can she? I know that is setting the bar quite low. I wasn't sure she could be worse than Johnson. Then I started thinking about it more. She's far stupider than him. Plus she's trying to be the next Thatcher. That means she'll likely be as bloody minded as hell. Bloody minded + stupid = a serious risk of being awful. Especially if she equates strength to ignoring everybod around her who is shouting that she shouldn't take certain stupid actions. Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion Truss is "far stupider than him"? What was the deciding factors? Oh come on is that a serious question? yes it is, I feel that the hatred for Johnson is already slipping and the attention he was getting is now being focused sharply onto the most likely person to become PM... It is weird to watch it the focus shift as it is. It is entirely possible to hate Johnson + think Truss is fucking stupid at the same time PS many of us seem to have thought Truss was stupid from loooong before now. But clearly she can't be stupid or she wouldn't be running for PM? V strange logic there. Why is it? Stupid is someone who shows little intelligence. She attended Merton college Oxford, she was president of the Oxford Liberal Democrats, Secretary of State and in the final 2 in being the chosen to lead the country. Is that someone who is stupid? " . It would be interesting to see how all the people calling her thick would manage if they had to sit the Oxford entrance exams themselves . Sounds like they are simply jealous of her talent and success. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll " 'these forums are simply used to pass idle time' You must be bone idle if that's the case, at least 3 profiles on the go pat .. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets..." Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll " Do you have a source for your claim that the public have decided she is winner and your ascertain that she will win the next election. Given that literally no poll I've seen suggests that? | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll Do you have a source for your claim that the public have decided she is winner and your ascertain that she will win the next election. Given that literally no poll I've seen suggests that?" Kwarteng said Truss, who has held a number of top cabinet posts, was “a politician that many people don’t know”. “I think Liz has got a very wide appeal,” he told LBC Radio. “She’s a politician many people don’t know. “She did extremely well in the debates earlier this week. Many people were looking at her for the first time and she just had a fresh, optimistic, dynamic approach – talking about wealth creation, talking about reducing people’s tax burden, talking about investing in this country.” “I’m pretty convinced — very convinced, in fact — she will win a general election.” | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... I personally think that we are in the end game for this latest incarnation of Conservatives and unwittingly she may just deliver the ‘coup de grace.’ Not since the end days of John Major’s Government have I sensed such dissatisfaction and dissociation with a sitting Government by so many people. The sense of injustice and unfairness with the way that the Conservatives are operating is no longer going down well now that there is not an EU enemy to rally against. I think that the final irony will be that arguments over Europe has already seen of multiple Conservative Leaders and the consequences of finally achieving Brexit might just see off the Party for a generation or more. Certainly when they do get ousted in the next couple of years, the re-spawning process will undoubtably bring about a very different looking Conservative Party than this one." They're thinking exactly the same as you. That's why they'll put Truss in and gather every last penny they can before the next election, and to hell with everyone else in the process.. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll Do you have a source for your claim that the public have decided she is winner and your ascertain that she will win the next election. Given that literally no poll I've seen suggests that? Kwarteng said Truss, who has held a number of top cabinet posts, was “a politician that many people don’t know”. “I think Liz has got a very wide appeal,” he told LBC Radio. “She’s a politician many people don’t know. “She did extremely well in the debates earlier this week. Many people were looking at her for the first time and she just had a fresh, optimistic, dynamic approach – talking about wealth creation, talking about reducing people’s tax burden, talking about investing in this country.” “I’m pretty convinced — very convinced, in fact — she will win a general election.”" That's one of her allies bigging her up? Do yiu have anything a little knee impartial and objective? | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll Do you have a source for your claim that the public have decided she is winner and your ascertain that she will win the next election. Given that literally no poll I've seen suggests that? Kwarteng said Truss, who has held a number of top cabinet posts, was “a politician that many people don’t know”. “I think Liz has got a very wide appeal,” he told LBC Radio. “She’s a politician many people don’t know. “She did extremely well in the debates earlier this week. Many people were looking at her for the first time and she just had a fresh, optimistic, dynamic approach – talking about wealth creation, talking about reducing people’s tax burden, talking about investing in this country.” “I’m pretty convinced — very convinced, in fact — she will win a general election.” That's one of her allies bigging her up? Do yiu have anything a little knee impartial and objective? " . I am sure that if you are eager to criticise Liz Truss you can find plenty of articles from lifes failures who are more than happy to criticise her. I prefer to judge people on success . All Lizz Truss has to do is repeat the election success of Boris Johnson . That was a stunning success which put all the doubters in their place . It ie a strange request to require supporting evidence on an internet forum . Why would anyone provide that . ? That is something you might do in a workplace . Evenings are time for relaxation after a hard day's work. Anything posted on her makes no difference to anyone's life or opinions. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll Do you have a source for your claim that the public have decided she is winner and your ascertain that she will win the next election. Given that literally no poll I've seen suggests that? Kwarteng said Truss, who has held a number of top cabinet posts, was “a politician that many people don’t know”. “I think Liz has got a very wide appeal,” he told LBC Radio. “She’s a politician many people don’t know. “She did extremely well in the debates earlier this week. Many people were looking at her for the first time and she just had a fresh, optimistic, dynamic approach – talking about wealth creation, talking about reducing people’s tax burden, talking about investing in this country.” “I’m pretty convinced — very convinced, in fact — she will win a general election.”" Apparently Kwarteng and Truss had an affair. Apparently he is in line for one of the top jobs. Just saying! | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly." dignity and honesty? Truss? Hahahahaha She lied about her so-called tough upbringing. She lied that the moronic policy she tried to push about wage cuts during a fucking cost of living crisis was never her policy. She lied about Johnson being honest! She lied about stats to the point Westminster's stats watchdog slapped her down. She championed Brexit despite knowing it was shit + saying it was won on lies about immigration and the EU. She lied about trade. It also seems she had affairs with Mark Fields - married Tory MP + her mentor. And possibly Kwarteng too. Seems she's following in Johnson's footsteps already... | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly. dignity and honesty? Truss? Hahahahaha She lied about her so-called tough upbringing. She lied that the moronic policy she tried to push about wage cuts during a fucking cost of living crisis was never her policy. She lied about Johnson being honest! She lied about stats to the point Westminster's stats watchdog slapped her down. She championed Brexit despite knowing it was shit + saying it was won on lies about immigration and the EU. She lied about trade. It also seems she had affairs with Mark Fields - married Tory MP + her mentor. And possibly Kwarteng too. Seems she's following in Johnson's footsteps already..." I get you are not a fan, you are water tight on that. I have read from you, scathing post after scathing post ref tories, PM's and potential PM's. What from a political perspective is going to make you happy? Please don't do the lazy, anything but the tories would be better, reply. I'm eager to understand the alternatives and the benefits we could have. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly. dignity and honesty? Truss? Hahahahaha She lied about her so-called tough upbringing. She lied that the moronic policy she tried to push about wage cuts during a fucking cost of living crisis was never her policy. She lied about Johnson being honest! She lied about stats to the point Westminster's stats watchdog slapped her down. She championed Brexit despite knowing it was shit + saying it was won on lies about immigration and the EU. She lied about trade. It also seems she had affairs with Mark Fields - married Tory MP + her mentor. And possibly Kwarteng too. Seems she's following in Johnson's footsteps already... I get you are not a fan, you are water tight on that. I have read from you, scathing post after scathing post ref tories, PM's and potential PM's. What from a political perspective is going to make you happy? Please don't do the lazy, anything but the tories would be better, reply. I'm eager to understand the alternatives and the benefits we could have." What would make me happy? Political figures who are generally honest, not corrupt + who act in the interests of the country. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly. dignity and honesty? Truss? Hahahahaha She lied about her so-called tough upbringing. She lied that the moronic policy she tried to push about wage cuts during a fucking cost of living crisis was never her policy. She lied about Johnson being honest! She lied about stats to the point Westminster's stats watchdog slapped her down. She championed Brexit despite knowing it was shit + saying it was won on lies about immigration and the EU. She lied about trade. It also seems she had affairs with Mark Fields - married Tory MP + her mentor. And possibly Kwarteng too. Seems she's following in Johnson's footsteps already... I get you are not a fan, you are water tight on that. I have read from you, scathing post after scathing post ref tories, PM's and potential PM's. What from a political perspective is going to make you happy? Please don't do the lazy, anything but the tories would be better, reply. I'm eager to understand the alternatives and the benefits we could have. What would make me happy? Political figures who are generally honest, not corrupt + who act in the interests of the country. " I would suggest that every politician is a hypocrite, they need to be to do the job. Would you agree? | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly. dignity and honesty? Truss? Hahahahaha She lied about her so-called tough upbringing. She lied that the moronic policy she tried to push about wage cuts during a fucking cost of living crisis was never her policy. She lied about Johnson being honest! She lied about stats to the point Westminster's stats watchdog slapped her down. She championed Brexit despite knowing it was shit + saying it was won on lies about immigration and the EU. She lied about trade. It also seems she had affairs with Mark Fields - married Tory MP + her mentor. And possibly Kwarteng too. Seems she's following in Johnson's footsteps already... I get you are not a fan, you are water tight on that. I have read from you, scathing post after scathing post ref tories, PM's and potential PM's. What from a political perspective is going to make you happy? Please don't do the lazy, anything but the tories would be better, reply. I'm eager to understand the alternatives and the benefits we could have. What would make me happy? Political figures who are generally honest, not corrupt + who act in the interests of the country. I would suggest that every politician is a hypocrite, they need to be to do the job. Would you agree? " I simply said the 3 most important things, in my view. Since you asked. | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets... Blimey - what are you on? Let’s look on the bright side and hope she returns some dignity and honesty to the role. It’s a low bar admittedly. dignity and honesty? Truss? Hahahahaha She lied about her so-called tough upbringing. She lied that the moronic policy she tried to push about wage cuts during a fucking cost of living crisis was never her policy. She lied about Johnson being honest! She lied about stats to the point Westminster's stats watchdog slapped her down. She championed Brexit despite knowing it was shit + saying it was won on lies about immigration and the EU. She lied about trade. It also seems she had affairs with Mark Fields - married Tory MP + her mentor. And possibly Kwarteng too. Seems she's following in Johnson's footsteps already... I get you are not a fan, you are water tight on that. I have read from you, scathing post after scathing post ref tories, PM's and potential PM's. What from a political perspective is going to make you happy? Please don't do the lazy, anything but the tories would be better, reply. I'm eager to understand the alternatives and the benefits we could have. What would make me happy? Political figures who are generally honest, not corrupt + who act in the interests of the country. I would suggest that every politician is a hypocrite, they need to be to do the job. Would you agree? I simply said the 3 most important things, in my view. Since you asked." I see you gave me your top 3, but I'm challenging if those 3 things could ever be found in a politician. Is your expectation above and beyond what politicians can deliver, because they are all hypocrites? | |||
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"I'd even take two out of three. Since I admit honesty is hard when some people will scream no matter what you say. But how hard is it to not be corrupt? And how hard is it to act in the interest of the country when it's supposed to be your fucking job?" I would suggest that a successful politician needs to pull the wool over your eyes, they need to or they can't tell you what you want to hear.. They are hypocrites and I think you don't like hypocrites, so does it all comes down to how honest they appear? | |||
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"truss is a w.e.f member along with sunak and johnson... klaus schwab has gloated in the past that his w.e.f group have infiltrated government cabinets around the world... in short... i hate 'em!" You hate our politicians for taking part in a forum on a global scale? | |||
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"I'd even take two out of three. Since I admit honesty is hard when some people will scream no matter what you say. But how hard is it to not be corrupt? And how hard is it to act in the interest of the country when it's supposed to be your fucking job? I would suggest that a successful politician needs to pull the wool over your eyes, they need to or they can't tell you what you want to hear.. They are hypocrites and I think you don't like hypocrites, so does it all comes down to how honest they appear? " No. Look at the two things I left. Not corrupt + acting in the interest of the country. How hard is it to do those two things? | |||
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"I'd even take two out of three. Since I admit honesty is hard when some people will scream no matter what you say. But how hard is it to not be corrupt? And how hard is it to act in the interest of the country when it's supposed to be your fucking job? I would suggest that a successful politician needs to pull the wool over your eyes, they need to or they can't tell you what you want to hear.. They are hypocrites and I think you don't like hypocrites, so does it all comes down to how honest they appear? No. Look at the two things I left. Not corrupt + acting in the interest of the country. How hard is it to do those two things?" It isn't on a 1-2-1 basis, but one message doesn't work for all. A politician needs to adjust the message to your ability to absorb the message gracefully. That never ending hypocrisy, tends to lead to a level of corruption eventually. | |||
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"I'd even take two out of three. Since I admit honesty is hard when some people will scream no matter what you say. But how hard is it to not be corrupt? And how hard is it to act in the interest of the country when it's supposed to be your fucking job? I would suggest that a successful politician needs to pull the wool over your eyes, they need to or they can't tell you what you want to hear.. They are hypocrites and I think you don't like hypocrites, so does it all comes down to how honest they appear? No. Look at the two things I left. Not corrupt + acting in the interest of the country. How hard is it to do those two things? It isn't on a 1-2-1 basis, but one message doesn't work for all. A politician needs to adjust the message to your ability to absorb the message gracefully. That never ending hypocrisy, tends to lead to a level of corruption eventually. " I don't think it's hard to not be corrupt. Most of us seem to manage it. And I don't think it's hard for a PM to act in the interest of their country when it's supposedly their fucking job. Also, if they can't do those things, maybe they shouldn't run for the bloody job. | |||
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"I'd even take two out of three. Since I admit honesty is hard when some people will scream no matter what you say. But how hard is it to not be corrupt? And how hard is it to act in the interest of the country when it's supposed to be your fucking job? I would suggest that a successful politician needs to pull the wool over your eyes, they need to or they can't tell you what you want to hear.. They are hypocrites and I think you don't like hypocrites, so does it all comes down to how honest they appear? No. Look at the two things I left. Not corrupt + acting in the interest of the country. How hard is it to do those two things? It isn't on a 1-2-1 basis, but one message doesn't work for all. A politician needs to adjust the message to your ability to absorb the message gracefully. That never ending hypocrisy, tends to lead to a level of corruption eventually. I don't think it's hard to not be corrupt. Most of us seem to manage it. And I don't think it's hard for a PM to act in the interest of their country when it's supposedly their fucking job. Also, if they can't do those things, maybe they shouldn't run for the bloody job." You don't like hypocrisy | |||
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"I'd even take two out of three. Since I admit honesty is hard when some people will scream no matter what you say. But how hard is it to not be corrupt? And how hard is it to act in the interest of the country when it's supposed to be your fucking job? I would suggest that a successful politician needs to pull the wool over your eyes, they need to or they can't tell you what you want to hear.. They are hypocrites and I think you don't like hypocrites, so does it all comes down to how honest they appear? No. Look at the two things I left. Not corrupt + acting in the interest of the country. How hard is it to do those two things? It isn't on a 1-2-1 basis, but one message doesn't work for all. A politician needs to adjust the message to your ability to absorb the message gracefully. That never ending hypocrisy, tends to lead to a level of corruption eventually. I don't think it's hard to not be corrupt. Most of us seem to manage it. And I don't think it's hard for a PM to act in the interest of their country when it's supposedly their fucking job. Also, if they can't do those things, maybe they shouldn't run for the bloody job. You don't like hypocrisy " I don't. But that's not even what I'm talking about here. Whatever. | |||
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"Replying to the last 3 posters who are challenging me by saying Liz truss is either stupid or as one put it as thick as pig shit. Do you really believe what you are saying or do you think your bias is playing a huge part in forming your assumptions. Fact: Liz Truss is not stupid, if we took really stupid people she would not be even close. Surely you can take your heads out of the sand on this.... I bet you now think I'm a Truss fan.... Yes I think she's stupid. Because I've listened to her. How is that bias? Maybe you need to recalibrate how you see see stupid? A few stupid things she has said: pork markets. Cheese. Tea sock. Hitting the ground from day one. Some stupid things she has done: failing to find her way out of a small room at a press conference on leadership. Being trolled by Larov because she was too stupid to know the geography of a place she was talking about. Pushing a policy to lower wages during a cost of living crisis before doing an immediate Uturn when - inevitably - there was a huge backlash. I hear you, being unprepared or easily flustered is more likely to be shaped from the stress of running for the PM. Stupid as in stupid, is not something I agree with. We clearly disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and she'll prove to be a genius as PM. Somehow, I doubt it. I'm not expecting her to be a genius, not by a country mile. I do expect her to be a lot more considerate in her words and how she conducts herself. If she gets PM that is. My minimum expectation: she is authentic in everything she does, she considers wisely and she holds the countries best interests at the core of her decisions. That should get us to the next general election without too much trouble. She's not remotely authentic either. She was a Lib dem who wanted to abolish the monarchy. Then she was a campaigning remainer. Then she was a brexiter. She's like Johnson in that she will say and do anything that she thinks might help her get ahead. She doesn't give a shit about the country." She is very much chameleon like, changing to suit her environment. Let’s look at it, if remain won, she would still be a remainer. If the Lib Dems were powerful she would still be a Lib Dem. She is a career opportunist. She paraded about for the past few years on social media pretending to be Thatcher. Liz truss is a populist, she is vain, and needs attention, she will sell you and everyone else down the river if it serves her interest. The problem with present day tories party members is this, they are more enamoured with how people look, rather than the content of their policies. This presents the biggest problem with the Party itself, because as soon as everything invariably goes south, as it has done in the past 12 years, they just change the leader. Hoping the next one would do better. Considering we’ve had 3 PM’s, with a 4th on the way, doesn’t really promote stability. It shows just how volatile the tories are politically. Truss is a byproduct of this instability, and her premiership will be another reminder of how being popular doesn’t necessarily mean you are qualified. | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. " Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is. | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is." To add I'm talking about general politics and politicians, not acts of sleaze or wrong doing. And to also clarify further, this has been my response to other posters continually writing things about MP's, or political parties based on their feelings of anger or mistrust. I'm trying to point out that they can see through the hypocrisy and that is what angers them. | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is." IMHO you are conflating hypocrisy with protecting national interests vs protecting personal interests. The former will at times be necessary, the latter should be illegal. Without doubt the easier job is to be in opposition. You can make all manner of promises but it can only be based on the data you have full access to. During an election all parties promise the earth to appeal to their base, but if they get into power and “open up the books” in full they find that everything becomes a trade off and compromise. I don’t class that as hypocrisy but simple pragmatism/reality. What I would like to see is a narrative where they say “based on what we currently know we plan on doing X but if the figures don’t add up we may need to adjust and do Y” So I can better understand your point, can you give me an example of something a politician has done that you consider hypocrisy. | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is. IMHO you are conflating hypocrisy with protecting national interests vs protecting personal interests. The former will at times be necessary, the latter should be illegal. Without doubt the easier job is to be in opposition. You can make all manner of promises but it can only be based on the data you have full access to. During an election all parties promise the earth to appeal to their base, but if they get into power and “open up the books” in full they find that everything becomes a trade off and compromise. I don’t class that as hypocrisy but simple pragmatism/reality. What I would like to see is a narrative where they say “based on what we currently know we plan on doing X but if the figures don’t add up we may need to adjust and do Y” So I can better understand your point, can you give me an example of something a politician has done that you consider hypocrisy." Party line voting, manifestos, door to door canvasing (agreeing with every view an the doorstep), protecting the interests of X, giving the impression it was the first time they know about something, every day politics is full of it.. From the Oxford English dictionary: behaviour that does not meet the moral standards or match the opinions that somebody claims to have. Example. He condemned the hypocrisy of those politicians who do one thing and say another. It’s hypocrisy for them to pretend that they were shocked at the news. | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is. IMHO you are conflating hypocrisy with protecting national interests vs protecting personal interests. The former will at times be necessary, the latter should be illegal. Without doubt the easier job is to be in opposition. You can make all manner of promises but it can only be based on the data you have full access to. During an election all parties promise the earth to appeal to their base, but if they get into power and “open up the books” in full they find that everything becomes a trade off and compromise. I don’t class that as hypocrisy but simple pragmatism/reality. What I would like to see is a narrative where they say “based on what we currently know we plan on doing X but if the figures don’t add up we may need to adjust and do Y” So I can better understand your point, can you give me an example of something a politician has done that you consider hypocrisy. Party line voting, manifestos, door to door canvasing (agreeing with every view an the doorstep), protecting the interests of X, giving the impression it was the first time they know about something, every day politics is full of it.. From the Oxford English dictionary: behaviour that does not meet the moral standards or match the opinions that somebody claims to have. Example. He condemned the hypocrisy of those politicians who do one thing and say another. It’s hypocrisy for them to pretend that they were shocked at the news. " I get that but can you provide any real examples to illustrate the point? And do these examples represent equivalence in terms of numbers of times and severity? I suspect not (and that is not a criticism). The volume of sleaze and corruption perpetrated by this current Govt is on such a scale and frequency that I believe many people have become desensitised by it all. Bad behaviour and lies have been normalised to such an extent that many people now expect it, apply it to all, and lack the ability to make an actual comparison. Once again I will use partygate vs beergate. Nobody except a full on tribalist could remotely claim there to be equivalence! | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is. IMHO you are conflating hypocrisy with protecting national interests vs protecting personal interests. The former will at times be necessary, the latter should be illegal. Without doubt the easier job is to be in opposition. You can make all manner of promises but it can only be based on the data you have full access to. During an election all parties promise the earth to appeal to their base, but if they get into power and “open up the books” in full they find that everything becomes a trade off and compromise. I don’t class that as hypocrisy but simple pragmatism/reality. What I would like to see is a narrative where they say “based on what we currently know we plan on doing X but if the figures don’t add up we may need to adjust and do Y” So I can better understand your point, can you give me an example of something a politician has done that you consider hypocrisy. Party line voting, manifestos, door to door canvasing (agreeing with every view an the doorstep), protecting the interests of X, giving the impression it was the first time they know about something, every day politics is full of it.. From the Oxford English dictionary: behaviour that does not meet the moral standards or match the opinions that somebody claims to have. Example. He condemned the hypocrisy of those politicians who do one thing and say another. It’s hypocrisy for them to pretend that they were shocked at the news. I get that but can you provide any real examples to illustrate the point? And do these examples represent equivalence in terms of numbers of times and severity? I suspect not (and that is not a criticism). The volume of sleaze and corruption perpetrated by this current Govt is on such a scale and frequency that I believe many people have become desensitised by it all. Bad behaviour and lies have been normalised to such an extent that many people now expect it, apply it to all, and lack the ability to make an actual comparison. Once again I will use partygate vs beergate. Nobody except a full on tribalist could remotely claim there to be equivalence! " The examples of hypocrisy happen every single day in politics and life in general. I have given you the examples and it should be relatively easy to apply them. Take PM's questions, full of it from both sides, pretending they are shocked, lying and goading each other. You have heard, do as I say, not as I do? The reason I have posted this, is to highlight that people who are so angry on here, are reacting mainly to the hypocrisy they hear as a rule. A lot of people can see through it a lot get triggered. You mentioned Truss studied philosophy, hypocrisy would be right up her street... You mention you are a floating voter, I too am not party centric, it allows me the liberty to be open to whatever I feel resonates with me. | |||
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"@NotMe66 those last few posts sound very cynical. You do realise that the prevailing narrative about politicians is “they are all as bad as each other”. This is patently not true. It is the result of a long running campaign of whataboutism designed to provide diversion and distraction from far worse behaviour. A perfect example of this was partygate vs beergate. The media tried to create a false equivalence that just wasn’t there. The events around partygate, multiple events, and Johnson’s repeated lying was of a magnitude significantly more serious that what Starmer had done. Yet I bet the media column inches were at least comparable. “They” have perpetuated a lie that all politicians are bad so you may as well accept the crowd in power as the other lot will be no better! It’s all distraction and diversion. “They” dig out the dirt on politicians ready to weaponise it as soon as they perceive a threat. Just look at a comparison between the sleeze and scandal perpetrated by this current crop of Tories and the Labour lot. Can you honestly hand on heart say that there is equivalence? Are all the Labour MPs spotless and squeaky clean. Doubtful. Who is in life? Are their misdemeanours of the same magnitude as those of the Tory MPs over recent years? Not by any measure no! Notice also how little dirt flows towards the Lib Dems or other parties. Are their MPs all totally clean? Doubtful too. But they are not perceived to be a threat so no need to weaponise. We have had 12 years of Conservative Govt. the country is on its knees. Yet some people still try to blame the other guys (missing the key point that the only reason the last Labour Govt had budget issues at the end was due to the Worldwide Banking crisis, yet those same people give the Conservatives a pass because of the Covid crisis!) I find it quite dispiriting that early intelligent people cannot see through all this smoke and mirrors. I cannot fathom how people can swallow false equivalence which is so blatant. Sad times for critical thinking. Are you saying that politicians are not hypocrites? They need to be to do the job. The opposition can come over has more considered and being open, usually because they are reacting retrospectively, it buys the time to present the ideas of how they would do things differently. When the opposition becomes the governing party the hypocrisy from that party will increase under the microscope. This has nothing to do with "whataboutism" it is the facts of politics, to be a politician you need to lie at times, you need to tell people what they want to hear. The hypocrisy will be more acceptable from the party or MP you support, but will be unbearable from a party or MP you would never vote for. World wide it is pretty much expected that politicians will lie, the leader of a country is never going to step in front of camera and tell the world they are thinking of doing X, when X would cause conflict, they do the opposite and distract from X. That is exactly the same as an MP point scoring on a televised political debate because they are playing to multiple audiences, their real feelings could be the exact opposite of what they are portraying, or the opposite of the party line, in short hypocrisy. Again, Im not saying because 1 does it makes it okay for the others to do it, but it is what it is. IMHO you are conflating hypocrisy with protecting national interests vs protecting personal interests. The former will at times be necessary, the latter should be illegal. Without doubt the easier job is to be in opposition. You can make all manner of promises but it can only be based on the data you have full access to. During an election all parties promise the earth to appeal to their base, but if they get into power and “open up the books” in full they find that everything becomes a trade off and compromise. I don’t class that as hypocrisy but simple pragmatism/reality. What I would like to see is a narrative where they say “based on what we currently know we plan on doing X but if the figures don’t add up we may need to adjust and do Y” So I can better understand your point, can you give me an example of something a politician has done that you consider hypocrisy. Party line voting, manifestos, door to door canvasing (agreeing with every view an the doorstep), protecting the interests of X, giving the impression it was the first time they know about something, every day politics is full of it.. From the Oxford English dictionary: behaviour that does not meet the moral standards or match the opinions that somebody claims to have. Example. He condemned the hypocrisy of those politicians who do one thing and say another. It’s hypocrisy for them to pretend that they were shocked at the news. I get that but can you provide any real examples to illustrate the point? And do these examples represent equivalence in terms of numbers of times and severity? I suspect not (and that is not a criticism). The volume of sleaze and corruption perpetrated by this current Govt is on such a scale and frequency that I believe many people have become desensitised by it all. Bad behaviour and lies have been normalised to such an extent that many people now expect it, apply it to all, and lack the ability to make an actual comparison. Once again I will use partygate vs beergate. Nobody except a full on tribalist could remotely claim there to be equivalence! The examples of hypocrisy happen every single day in politics and life in general. I have given you the examples and it should be relatively easy to apply them. Take PM's questions, full of it from both sides, pretending they are shocked, lying and goading each other. You have heard, do as I say, not as I do? The reason I have posted this, is to highlight that people who are so angry on here, are reacting mainly to the hypocrisy they hear as a rule. A lot of people can see through it a lot get triggered. You mentioned Truss studied philosophy, hypocrisy would be right up her street... You mention you are a floating voter, I too am not party centric, it allows me the liberty to be open to whatever I feel resonates with me. " Ok I am not going to press the issue as I feel we agree on some things. I need to re-read your posts as I did not spot specific examples, only thematic examples. However, I think we class “hypocrisy” in different ways and you come across (here in this thread at least) as more cynical than me and of the belief that “they are all the same/all as bad as each other” which I strongly do not believe. | |||
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" you come across (here in this thread at least) as more cynical than me and of the belief that “they are all the same/all as bad as each other” which I strongly do not believe." When in power. | |||
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" you come across (here in this thread at least) as more cynical than me and of the belief that “they are all the same/all as bad as each other” which I strongly do not believe. When in power. " Really? Always? All of them? All the time or just towards the end if their tenure? | |||
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" you come across (here in this thread at least) as more cynical than me and of the belief that “they are all the same/all as bad as each other” which I strongly do not believe. When in power. Really? Always? All of them? All the time or just towards the end if their tenure?" Post the usual honeymoon period, and when that is over it will start with, we inherited this mess, and degrade from there, possibly quicker depending on what world events throw spanners in the works. It is a well trodden path, don't you think? | |||
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"Will she start a war with Madagascar? Will she accidentally lock herself in her own office until she has to be saved from starvation by the ERG with a stepladder, a pint of Stella and a ham sandwich? Or will she simply be another lying, corrupt, toxic Tory who will fuck us all over as much as possible? Place your bets.... Only a very small proportion of people will be attempting to claim that Liz Truss will fail to succeed. Boris Johnson was driven by success. That is not even an opinion an 80 seat majority is a matter of fact. The Boris haters fail to appreciate this . Liz will simply carry on where Boris left off and build on his success. She has dome great plans and once elected we Will all reap the rewards of her policies . The Liz haters will again be bitterly disappointed. Pat old chap would you mind listing out these “great plans” and then explain to us unbelievers why they are “great plans”. What are the “rewards of her policies” that we will reap? You never know, your persuasive repartee may turn some of us to the cause and garner support! . Hello. I think you have already answered your own question. By your own admission you have stated both that your are in the wealthiest 1 % of the population and in addition you stated that you have a first class honours degree in history . Surely this information should be sufficient to address your concern. You clearly stated that you have access to every single national newspaper on a daily basis as part of your job and assuming you read them in detail the future performance of Liz Truss is clearly documented. These forums are simply used to pass idle time , I would be very surprised if anyone changed their opinion on an issue as a result of reading them . We all have a part to play in society regardless of our status, wealth or education. It looks like the public have already decided that Liz Truss is a winner . The only unknown factor is not whether she she will win the next election , it is simply the size of the majority that she will achieve . Personally I always refrain from calling anyone stupid . Just because someone has an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that they are stupid. In any event with all the support that Liz has we do not have to worry about a small number of people calling her stupid. The good times are about to roll " Totally missed this dozy from Pat/Mr Hay. While I am flattered you remember posts I have made months back, I am not really sure what my financial and academic status have to do with the point being discussed? Also, what are these “good times about to roll”? Good for who? Good why? | |||
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"Truss has suggested she won't appoint a new ethics adviser after he got two in a row to resign. She really is planning on following in Johnson's footsteps, it seems..." To be fair, these ethics advisors don't appear to have been doing their jobs properly | |||
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"Is no one considering that while Truss is the members choice she isn't the MPs choice, how is that going to play put for her? " I think she may just find herself in the shit! | |||
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"Is no one considering that while Truss is the members choice she isn't the MPs choice, how is that going to play put for her? I think she may just find herself in the shit!" Maybe she'll be a handy scapegoat for whatever catastrophic situation the Tories are leading us into next. | |||
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"Is no one considering that while Truss is the members choice she isn't the MPs choice, how is that going to play put for her? I think she may just find herself in the shit! Maybe she'll be a handy scapegoat for whatever catastrophic situation the Tories are leading us into next." Oh the excuses, I think the Tories have a wheel which has every excuse on and they spin that wheel, and whatever it lands on they go with it  | |||
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"You need more than academic achievement to be a capable statesman. Academic achievement in a field does always correlate to having a high IQ. Nor does it have any bearing on your EQ. Truss is hopeless and so immensely unselfaware it is scary. " . Most members of the cabinet are exceptionally successfull people. You do not enfv up being a cabinet minister by accident . We will see in fine years time just how successfull Liz will be. . The merchants of doom , gloom and negative commentators can be safely ignored | |||
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"You need more than academic achievement to be a capable statesman. Academic achievement in a field does always correlate to having a high IQ. Nor does it have any bearing on your EQ. Truss is hopeless and so immensely unselfaware it is scary. . Most members of the cabinet are exceptionally successfull people. You do not enfv up being a cabinet minister by accident . We will see in fine years time just how successfull Liz will be. . The merchants of doom , gloom and negative commentators can be safely ignored " Lolz keep them coming Pat. Be ready to switch allegiance again. The vast majority, if not all, of Johnson’s Cabinet got the job purely on the basis that they supported Johnson. Handpicked. None of them would have secured a place in Thatcher’s Cabinet. Not a single one. All promoted beyond their meagre capabilities. Plenty of party grandees saying the same, staunch Tories looking on in horror at how the ERG are destroying the Conservative party. | |||
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"You need more than academic achievement to be a capable statesman. Academic achievement in a field does always correlate to having a high IQ. Nor does it have any bearing on your EQ. Truss is hopeless and so immensely unselfaware it is scary. . Most members of the cabinet are exceptionally successfull people. You do not enfv up being a cabinet minister by accident . We will see in fine years time just how successfull Liz will be. . The merchants of doom , gloom and negative commentators can be safely ignored " | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. " I truly truly hope she can pull it iff because the UK is screwed. However, forgive me for having little faith based on her performance to date and the mess she inherits from Johnson (that was complicit in creating). Prepared to eat my hat though! | |||
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" I prefer to judge people on success . All Lizz Truss has to do is repeat the election success of Boris Johnson . That was a stunning success which put all the doubters in their place . " Don't talk wet. Boris and the Tories were the only ones who cast iron guaranteed they would follow through on the Brexit referendum result and didn't flip flop about promising another vote or leaving us half in, half out of the EU. Jimmy Saville's corpse could have been elected as PM with that promise and the way every other party was acting, trying to hedge their bets with the remain voting members of the electorate who were at the time still making lots of noise. | |||
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"Somebody above was arguing Truss isn't stupid. Something Truss just said when asked if Macron is friend or foe: The jury is out. Yup, she's fucking stupid. What sort of candidate for leader is dumb enough to say that about the leader of a neighbouring nation? Especially when we could really do with sticking together against common threats. " The comment about Macron was beyond stupid. We can only hope she is just playing to the grassroots conservative voters at present. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. " She hasn't surprised any of us so far. She continually lives down to expectations. I see no reason she will magically improve when given the big job. | |||
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"I just hope it’s all an act to get her elected and that then she might be able to turf the ERG fundamentalists out but going on past performance I can’t see she’s got much staying power or competence "Bet you she'll try to out right wing even the right wingers. She's already been Thatcher cosplaying for ages. When in power, I reckon she'll do anything to try and prove she's tough. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. " Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy?" That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. " A cause for the common good is removing the Tories from power ASAP. Over the past decade plus, they have shown just how damaging they are to this country. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. " I’m not sure you have quite understood the point others are making. | |||
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" I prefer to judge people on success . All Lizz Truss has to do is repeat the election success of Boris Johnson . That was a stunning success which put all the doubters in their place . Don't talk wet. Boris and the Tories were the only ones who cast iron guaranteed they would follow through on the Brexit referendum result and didn't flip flop about promising another vote or leaving us half in, half out of the EU. Jimmy Saville's corpse could have been elected as PM with that promise and the way every other party was acting, trying to hedge their bets with the remain voting members of the electorate who were at the time still making lots of noise. ". The electorate would have reviewed the economy policies of each party and assessed their impact on the economy . It is very clear that they did and consequently the Conservatives won by a massive margin. | |||
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" I prefer to judge people on success . All Lizz Truss has to do is repeat the election success of Boris Johnson . That was a stunning success which put all the doubters in their place . Don't talk wet. Boris and the Tories were the only ones who cast iron guaranteed they would follow through on the Brexit referendum result and didn't flip flop about promising another vote or leaving us half in, half out of the EU. Jimmy Saville's corpse could have been elected as PM with that promise and the way every other party was acting, trying to hedge their bets with the remain voting members of the electorate who were at the time still making lots of noise. . The electorate would have reviewed the economy policies of each party and assessed their impact on the economy . It is very clear that they did and consequently the Conservatives won by a massive margin. " | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. " . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. " Haha. Your posts are getting more and more hilarious.
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. " Why do you believe what is written ‘in the press’ and more importantly , why do you believe what Boris says ? He thinks you are stupid | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Why do you believe what is written ‘in the press’ and more importantly , why do you believe what Boris says ? He thinks you are stupid " .All the key points can be checked. The press are subject to various rules and regulations . They cannot simply publish what they want. I would prefer to rely on information from someone who gained an 80 seat majority as opposed to a few disgruntled individuals. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. " Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him? | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Why do you believe what is written ‘in the press’ and more importantly , why do you believe what Boris says ? He thinks you are stupid .All the key points can be checked. The press are subject to various rules and regulations . They cannot simply publish what they want. I would prefer to rely on information from someone who gained an 80 seat majority as opposed to a few disgruntled individuals. " Boris thinks you are stupid Liz Truss thinks you are lazy and stupid Do you believe everything you read ‘in the press’ ? | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?" Because Boris can fool the foolish, | |||
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" I prefer to judge people on success . All Lizz Truss has to do is repeat the election success of Boris Johnson . That was a stunning success which put all the doubters in their place . Don't talk wet. Boris and the Tories were the only ones who cast iron guaranteed they would follow through on the Brexit referendum result and didn't flip flop about promising another vote or leaving us half in, half out of the EU. Jimmy Saville's corpse could have been elected as PM with that promise and the way every other party was acting, trying to hedge their bets with the remain voting members of the electorate who were at the time still making lots of noise. . The electorate would have reviewed the economy policies of each party and assessed their impact on the economy . It is very clear that they did and consequently the Conservatives won by a massive margin. "Let’s clarify, it wasn’t 100% of the electorate which voted the tories in, last GE there for more people who voted against the conservatives, than for them. Also the ‘Majority’ you cherish so much is built on shaky foundations, and easily removed. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him? Because Boris can fool the foolish, "And the delusional it seems..
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him? Because Boris can fool the foolish,
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?" . Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. " Plenty of us rallying to the cause of getting this truly awful government out. And that is definitely for the common good | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. Plenty of us rallying to the cause of getting this truly awful government out. And that is definitely for the common good" That’s democracy for you. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. " 2 years ago an 80 seat majority and in 2 years the tories are behind in every poll and even the PM in waiting is losing popularity before they are in power. That's how little faith the public hace | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. " But we all know he’s a Billy bullshitter. What’s that old saying ? You can fool all of the people some of the time and some people all of the time. What a disaster that nasty blond Boris bullshitter has been for the UK. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. " The lies sold to the red wall and to people in general about brexit will come back to haunt the Tories.. I suppose it reflects upon ones own personal morality that some like yourself deem that honest and integrity in someones personal life and in politics can be so easily set aside.. Pretty sad state of affairs.. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. But we all know he’s a Billy bullshitter. What’s that old saying ? You can fool all of the people some of the time and some people all of the time. What a disaster that nasty blond Boris bullshitter has been for the UK." We don't often agree but yes totally on this..
His taint in politics is rank, his achievements very average and the damage he's done both to this country's reputation and economy far outweighs the vaccine roll out for which he should (as others also would be) expected to get right..
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. " I read this at in this gem in the pasted replies below and I knew who must have written it before I scrolled up. You never disappoint with your contribution. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. " He had an 80 seat majority and now he has been forced to resign against his will, his Tory cabinet and their MPs think he is useless | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. He had an 80 seat majority and now he has been forced to resign against his will, his Tory cabinet and their MPs think he is useless "Forced to resign as he simply doesn’t possess the decency to have resigned earlier. Whatever happened to ‘right honourable’? I fear he still feels he has done no wrong. | |||
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" I prefer to judge people on success . All Lizz Truss has to do is repeat the election success of Boris Johnson . That was a stunning success which put all the doubters in their place . Don't talk wet. Boris and the Tories were the only ones who cast iron guaranteed they would follow through on the Brexit referendum result and didn't flip flop about promising another vote or leaving us half in, half out of the EU. Jimmy Saville's corpse could have been elected as PM with that promise and the way every other party was acting, trying to hedge their bets with the remain voting members of the electorate who were at the time still making lots of noise. . The electorate would have reviewed the economy policies of each party and assessed their impact on the economy . It is very clear that they did and consequently the Conservatives won by a massive margin. "You've given the electorate far too much credit. At the time of the last election the only issue that mattered was Brexit. I think you're kidding yourself if you think the average voter took the time to sit down and read through the policies of each party to the level you are suggesting. The last EU elections we took part in were a massive, massive indicator of where the votes were going to go at a general election - they were going to go to the party who said they were going to deliver. Only the Tories seemed to take any notice and it paid dividends. | |||
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"Liz Truss. The new iron lady (in her own tiny mind). Declares she will stand up to Putin...but is running scared from an interview with Nick Robinson. Spineless. Malleable. A puppet master’s dream." TV interviews are irrelevant. What type of person spends their spare time watching interviews on TV.? Aa she has already won why waste precious time giving an interview especially to the BBC. She has already written quite a few articles in the national press and appeared on GB news. The battle is over No necessity for interviews. | |||
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"Liz Truss. The new iron lady (in her own tiny mind). Declares she will stand up to Putin...but is running scared from an interview with Nick Robinson. Spineless. Malleable. A puppet master’s dream." My worry with this is her team must have calculated that the damage done by not doing the interview is less than what she might say during an interview and having her plans scrutinised. If they thought it would be a benefit and that her plans would stack up then I expect they would find the time. | |||
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"Liz Truss. The new iron lady (in her own tiny mind). Declares she will stand up to Putin...but is running scared from an interview with Nick Robinson. Spineless. Malleable. A puppet master’s dream. TV interviews are irrelevant. What type of person spends their spare time watching interviews on TV.? Aa she has already won why waste precious time giving an interview especially to the BBC. She has already written quite a few articles in the national press and appeared on GB news. The battle is over No necessity for interviews. " Sadly this is true  | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. He had an 80 seat majority and now he has been forced to resign against his will, his Tory cabinet and their MPs think he is useless ". I would think very few ( if any ) rational individuals would regard him as useless. The election success was a stunning achievement which put many people in their place. He did not have to resign, that was his decision . The only problem with his success was that lots of disgruntled individuals were jealous of it and simply out to get him for any misdeamour regardless of how minor it was . Who else could achieve an 80 seat majority. It put all the other parties firmly in their place. It will go down in history as one of the greatest election successes of all time ..That is something we must never forget. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. He had an 80 seat majority and now he has been forced to resign against his will, his Tory cabinet and their MPs think he is useless . I would think very few ( if any ) rational individuals would regard him as useless. The election success was a stunning achievement which put many people in their place. He did not have to resign, that was his decision .
The only problem with his success was that lots of disgruntled individuals were jealous of it and simply out to get him for any misdeamour regardless of how minor it was .
Who else could achieve an 80 seat majority. It put all the other parties firmly in their place. It will go down in history as one of the greatest election successes of all time ..That is something we must never forget. "As this part of the forum is largely a competition to see who can post the most bizarre and outlandish nonsense. I have to say, you're absolutely smashing it. No one comes close. | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. He had an 80 seat majority and now he has been forced to resign against his will, his Tory cabinet and their MPs think he is useless . I would think very few ( if any ) rational individuals would regard him as useless. The election success was a stunning achievement which put many people in their place. He did not have to resign, that was his decision .
The only problem with his success was that lots of disgruntled individuals were jealous of it and simply out to get him for any misdeamour regardless of how minor it was .
Who else could achieve an 80 seat majority. It put all the other parties firmly in their place. It will go down in history as one of the greatest election successes of all time ..That is something we must never forget. "He didn’t want to resign He was forced to resign by his own MPs and cabinet They forced him to resign because he is useless at being the PM He didn’t get an 80 seat majority, the Conservative party did This time next week ‘he’ won’t have any majority, he will just be another back bench MP And lastly, Boris Johnson thinks you are stupid | |||
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"Horses eat hay. What do trolls eat?" Anything their masters tell them to? | |||
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"Let’s hope she surprises us all, gets the UK back on track and we move forward. Let’s all get behind her, give our support so she can do a great job. Pmsl, ever heard the expression once bitten, twice shy? That’s the spirit. What a defeatist miserable lot we have become. Easier to snipe and sneer I guess than it is to rally to a cause for the common good. . Lots of posters on here love to just snipe and sneer. It does make me wonder sometimes how they spend their lives . There are a number of articles in the press today explaining how bright our future is and the steps taken to address short term problems. One is even written by the pm himself and is backed up with all the relevant supporting evidence. Pat.. Boris lies, been sacked for it at least as many times as you have profiles.. The whole world knows it and no one else trusts him, why do you place your trust in him?. Why would anyone worry about being sacked ? Lots of other employers wanted to use his talent . A true measure of success. If you obtain an 80 seat majority it would tend to indicate that most people have faith in you . Ukraine think the world of him. He had an 80 seat majority and now he has been forced to resign against his will, his Tory cabinet and their MPs think he is useless . I would think very few ( if any ) rational individuals would regard him as useless. The election success was a stunning achievement which put many people in their place. He did not have to resign, that was his decision .
The only problem with his success was that lots of disgruntled individuals were jealous of it and simply out to get him for any misdeamour regardless of how minor it was .
Who else could achieve an 80 seat majority. It put all the other parties firmly in their place. It will go down in history as one of the greatest election successes of all time ..That is something we must never forget. "He resigned because he couldn't form a cabinet because almost his entire party had lost faith in him. That's not a few disgruntled people... | |||
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"will she keep Boris's expensive wallpaper ? paint over it or hire a stripper ? " I bet Johnson hired plenty of strippers in his time. (Prob got donors to pay for them though.) | |||
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"Highest taxes in decades, locking everyone in their homes, spending half a trillion on people doing nothing, NI increase to fund "our NHS", highest immigration figures on record, pursuing net zero Fantasyland. Tory scum are just free market loons! Things will be so different under Labour." Not sure why you said "pursuing net zero Fantasyland"? The Tories are horrendous on environmental issues and climate change. | |||
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"Seeing the last hustings, you can definitely see that liz was pandering to win, her speech was laden with all the buzzwords, with reality kicked firmly out of the window. Sunak was far more stronger, sounded competent and actually gave a more realistic view of things. But for him it was always going to be an uphill battle. Reminds me of the time when the Labour Party voted for Ed Miliband over David Miliband, they shot themselves in the foot then, and with the tories they’ve shot themselves in the foot with voting truss over Sunak. Idiots." Yes that was another low point for labour - David was so much better than his younger brother Ed and still is! As for Truss, her cosplay drama is just weird and embarrassing tbh | |||
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"Useless, potentially the worst pm ever having listened to her flip flop policies " Hard to see how she could be worse than Johnson. Then again, I guess we'll see... | |||
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"Useless, potentially the worst pm ever having listened to her flip flop policies Hard to see how she could be worse than Johnson. Then again, I guess we'll see..." sorry for repeat post typo! How do you think Johnson became PM, what gave him the edge? | |||
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