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Are we the UK prepared for a disaster?
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When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly?
Breaking it down.
Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing.
That may be needed.
Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on.
I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops.
The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves.
Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want?
Would you be willing to help?
Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed?
Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that?
Lot's of questions sorry |
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly?
Breaking it down.
Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing.
That may be needed.
Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on.
I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops.
The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves.
Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want?
Would you be willing to help?
Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed?
Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that?
Lot's of questions sorry "
Hahahaha absolutely not ! The vast majority of people are sheep and are controlled by media opinions and governmental over reach!
Basic instinct will always be there and survival of the fittest (or best prepared) will win out |
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Our government at present would not know what to do. If we had any form of disaster. Our NHS is run down and can't cope with emergency now. I'm not sure if our other emergency services are up to strength. Personally I think we would be up the creek without a paddle  |
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly?
Breaking it down.
Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing.
That may be needed.
Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on.
I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops.
The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves.
Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want?
Would you be willing to help?
Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed?
Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that?
Lot's of questions sorry
Hahahaha absolutely not ! The vast majority of people are sheep and are controlled by media opinions and governmental over reach!
Basic instinct will always be there and survival of the fittest (or best prepared) will win out "
By the way I totally agree with how your saying things would go
Total chaos would ensue |
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"Our government at present would not know what to do. If we had any form of disaster. Our NHS is run down and can't cope with emergency now. I'm not sure if our other emergency services are up to strength. Personally I think we would be up the creek without a paddle "
Again don’t rely on them! |
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Closer than you think, due to what’s happening in the Middle East. If it escalates oil prices will increase dramatically and the cost of living crisis we have now will be much worse. Still no resolution in Ukraine, we could be on the verge of total anarchy.
With the Tories in charge we don’t stand a chance.
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery"
They’ve successfully conned 99% of the population by taking our tax money and giving to their mates via back handlers and dodgey companies
I think they’ve pulled the wool so far over your eyes, you think your the smart one |
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None of our governments of any colour could cope or prepare.For decades and decades one flake of snow,one drop of rain or a puff of wind and everything stops.Emergency planning,material acquisition etc costs money,which only bears fruit when there is a disaster which is unlikely within the election cycle.Politicians are only interested in something that shows results straight away or within five years.That is why China is always ahead of the game,they can spend and plan twenty thirty years ahead,no political opposition.Their expansion into mining in Africa thirty years ago is now paying off. |
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No. But then we never have been. We’ve always survived.
And as much as we shake our heads at the ‘youth of today’ I look around and see a very intelligent, thoughtful and caring generation.
We’ll be alright. |
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I think the pockets of anarchy and chaos but there’s no ideological mob ready to seize power like in many countries.
I think the army would likely take control and do a much better job without any government interference.
I’d sign up if I couldn’t get myself and kids out |
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly?
Breaking it down.
Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing.
That may be needed.
Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on.
I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops.
The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves.
Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want?
Would you be willing to help?
Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed?
Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that?
Lot's of questions sorry "
Doubt it very much. We are pretty crap compared to most of the civilised world at most important stuff. Roads, transport, health, education,infrastructure, quality of life. That's both in terms of leadership and also general population understanding and willingness to do things for themselves and the benefits of others... We saw that only a few years ago how divided we became when a little pressure was applied. Very sad. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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Israel are about to roll through Gaza, backed by the US and the West. Hezbollah has attacked Israel, backed by Iran, Syria and Russia. US has sent a battle group into the Red Sea, followed by China looking for a piece of the spoils. No one really knows which way the Saudis will go. The focus is off Ukraine….
What could go wrong?
Faf anyone? |
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First of all anarchism is not chaos or the absence of rules it is the absence of rulers.
However, as Berkman put it following the Russian Revolution. A society can't go from a state of low social consciousness overnight. So absolutely I believe people would turn on each other through fear and self-preservation within weeks.
Would I volunteer to help the government maintain order through force - no. I am more likely to fight against this government in that scenario.
Would I work to support other peoples needs - yes. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"Not prepared for even bad weather (snow, rain etc). Watching people stripping toilet roll from shelves during the covid time tells us all we need to know."
Totally this. The veneer of our ‘civilised society’ is remarkably thin. If you’re unsure, have a read of what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the US. |
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All local, regional and national government departments have disaster planning meetings. Six months before the pandemic someone I know attended one, the subject of a pandemic was discussed as usual and everyone laughed and moved on to the next item on the agenda. That's the level of preparedness in this country |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"All local, regional and national government departments have disaster planning meetings. Six months before the pandemic someone I know attended one, the subject of a pandemic was discussed as usual and everyone laughed and moved on to the next item on the agenda. That's the level of preparedness in this country "
The official government review in 2016 concluded that the UK was woefully unprepared for a pandemic and much needed to be done. Well, we know how that went.
Bottom line is you cannot be prepared for every eventuality so there is a broad brush approach, which actually means wait and see what we are dealing with. Obviously that means we will be caught out in the early stages and lives will be lost. Oh, well, it’s not like we are short of people is it?
Whether we can actually deal with whatever transpires is a whole other issue….. |
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"All local, regional and national government departments have disaster planning meetings. Six months before the pandemic someone I know attended one, the subject of a pandemic was discussed as usual and everyone laughed and moved on to the next item on the agenda. That's the level of preparedness in this country
The official government review in 2016 concluded that the UK was woefully unprepared for a pandemic and much needed to be done. Well, we know how that went.
Bottom line is you cannot be prepared for every eventuality so there is a broad brush approach, which actually means wait and see what we are dealing with. Obviously that means we will be caught out in the early stages and lives will be lost. Oh, well, it’s not like we are short of people is it?
Whether we can actually deal with whatever transpires is a whole other issue….."
The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory. |
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‘The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory.‘
I agree, but how do you prepare in detail for a disaster you can’t even define! It’s a shit sandwich whichever way you look at it. |
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"How the pandemic was handled tells you everything you need to know
And how people reacted to being told what to do."
You mean go on youtube abd find something that fits their ideals, then tell everyone that doesn't go with what you found a sheep. |
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"‘The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory.‘
I agree, but how do you prepare in detail for a disaster you can’t even define! It’s a shit sandwich whichever way you look at it."
I really don't know the answer but there have been pandemics before. I think I could have come up with a few more suggestions than where to store the bodies based on the 1918 flu epidemic |
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People are idiots. The lucky ones are the ones who know this, and go and read up on how not to be. As for readyness...
We are a society that will tolerate children going hungry, but provide a sparkly hat with its own car. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"No we're probably not ready. It costs money to be ready. The Conservatives don't like spending money. They would much rather rich people had it. "
And shipping the money off to other countries before helping our own.
Miss S x |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"A civil war is coming and that's when the country will decline even further than it has already. "
Do you think we will get ours before the US and Europe gets theirs? |
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"People are idiots. The lucky ones are the ones who know this, and go and read up on how not to be. As for readyness...
We are a society that will tolerate children going hungry, but provide a sparkly hat with its own car. "
I'm terribly afraid that you're right |
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly?
Breaking it down.
Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing.
That may be needed.
Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on.
I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops.
The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves.
Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want?
Would you be willing to help?
Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed?
Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that?
Lot's of questions sorry "
Sounds like a video game I play called Tom Clancy's The Division, and the Division 2.
The story is that some evil man unleashes a virus that causes a world wide pandemic.
Causing the global breakdown of society and as you say mob rule, and a sort of ideology gains traction.
Now the government had planned for this type of scenario and created a force of trained everyday people who could be mobilised over a separate communication network, called the division who would maintain law and order by shoot first and ask questions later, great game until the pandemic actually became a real thing.
So your thinking is not that wrong, in fact it may show why our governments did what they did during our pandemic.
I never put it together before it was just a game but now..... you have me thinking. |
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"I've learned from my grandma to be prepared and have a sideboard full of tinned fruit and bags of sugar"
Since the pandemic that what I have done, I had to work during the pandemic and got to the shops during the first weeks at about 21.00 and the shelves were empty luckily my employer fed us until the shelves where stocked again. |
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Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event |
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By *obajxMan 28 weeks ago
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event "
Two months before it took hold in China or the UK? |
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event "
My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea.
He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid.
But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise.
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event
Two months before it took hold in China or the UK?"
In China |
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event
My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea.
He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid.
But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise.
I would be in Pankhurst "
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Backup plan.
Take to the hills with American friends. I'll trust a bunch of country boys with hunting rifles, moonshine and tinned peaches over the government thanks.
Enjoy the 'quarantine zones'
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"Not prepared for even bad weather (snow, rain etc). Watching people stripping toilet roll from shelves during the covid time tells us all we need to know.
Totally this. The veneer of our ‘civilised society’ is remarkably thin. If you’re unsure, have a read of what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the US."
Still get our amazon delivered though... |
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Nope not at all, it's not just the government doing what's needed it's our own population, we are a country of self entitled tw@ts we do what we want and sod the consequences,
No wonder the rest of the world hate us |
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"‘The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory.‘
I agree, but how do you prepare in detail for a disaster you can’t even define! It’s a shit sandwich whichever way you look at it."
Well of course you can't and nor should we expect it. What we can however be is sufficiently self sufficient, adaptable,educated, informed, with our community's already willing and able to roll into action as needed, to be able to respond quickly to most of the shit life throws our way. The fact we are increasingly selfish as individuals and increasingly inefficient at local council and central leadership and then backing countries that are slaughtering innocents will surely have some consequences. |
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It depends how we are defining the word "we" to correctly answer this question.
If by "we" you mean the general population of the UK then we are prepared "enough" shall we say to, at the very least, maintain law and order and retain the status quo.
If by "we" you mean the upper echelons that pull the strings and "run the show" as it were, i.e. the ones with the most to lose, then the answer is an unequivocal yes. There is pretty much nothing that would make them lose control. Other than a force majeure of unprecedented proportions.
For what its worth I say all this using my old neighbour at a holiday cottage I once owned as most credible source. He was a retired very high ranking civil servant and he always advised that, although the primary function of a political party is to win the next election, the primary function of government is to maintain law and order. At all costs.
The recent pandemic is a succinct example of this in operation. |
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By *obajxMan 28 weeks ago
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event
Two months before it took hold in China or the UK?
In China "
The first thing that should have been done, and it was quite incredible that it wasn't, was stop all flights from China
It was lock downs galore in China before Christmas and anyone with any sense knew it was coming. At the start of February, I was stoid at the NEC Spring Fair thinking "this is madness. The entire world is about to change"
So if a numpty like me could see it coming, why couldn't the people who are paid the big bucks to look after us? |
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"I don't watch the walking dead for nothing.
Research. "
I honestly have a mental list of things to do, people I know to band together with and places to get supplies and shelter in case of Zompocalypse |
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Would look out for friends and family thats about it, as for listening to the gov, i never have and wouldnt start listening to them, and sign up to fight in a war of there making, not on your life let the bellends who cause it fight in it |
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Planning for the sort of contingencies mentioned in this thread takes considerable time and money. It also takes multi-disciplinary skill and knowledge. And then "buy in" and cooperation from multiple government departments. Many of which hate each other's guts and are all jockeying for importance in their own schemes of things.
So yeah...we're fooked. As always. As we always will be. That will never change.
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"Planning for the sort of contingencies mentioned in this thread takes considerable time and money. It also takes multi-disciplinary skill and knowledge. And then "buy in" and cooperation from multiple government departments. Many of which hate each other's guts and are all jockeying for importance in their own schemes of things.
So yeah...we're fooked. As always. As we always will be. That will never change.
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Leadership wise. But there are things that individuals can choose to do. Be cooperative, adaptable, build community and support, check well being of others... None requires any one else to do... Just our own choices. |
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By *abioMan 28 weeks ago
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly?
Breaking it down.
Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing.
That may be needed.
Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on.
I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops.
The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves.
Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want?
Would you be willing to help?
Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed?
Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that?
Lot's of questions sorry "
I think the way the uk dealt with the initial outbreak of Covid shows the Uk government was not prepared
The annoying thing for me is that even I was surprised at the amount of goodwill the uk public gave in the circumstances ! Most of us followed rules even at the worst moments … only for the government to basically squander it all… partly through ineptitude, partly through some wanting to profiteer |
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event
My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea.
He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid.
But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise.
I would be in Pankhurst "
Tom Clancy looked into a lot of things, then wrote about them. |
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it
I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do
we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event
My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea.
He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid.
But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise.
I would be in Pankhurst
Tom Clancy looked into a lot of things, then wrote about them. "
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13 years of the current lot have sent things into decline, so I'm inclined to assume that we wouldn't do well. People were generally very good during the pandemic but I am thinking that was due to fear and belief in the greater good. The leaders have eroded trust though and I think they'd not be trusted now. |
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The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest |
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest "
You'd think a secretary of state would have to have a crash course in the job they're doing. You wouldn't get unqualified people running banks or designing buildings  |
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest
You'd think a secretary of state would have to have a crash course in the job they're doing. You wouldn't get unqualified people running banks or designing buildings "
Political appointments rarely have any idea about their departments. Hence they flit from one to another at the behest of their PM, depending how popular they are. That is what the Civil Service is for. And also why nothing gets done or done badly. |
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest
You'd think a secretary of state would have to have a crash course in the job they're doing. You wouldn't get unqualified people running banks or designing buildings "
What qualifies someone to be secretary of state? Its management isn't it.? Create the culture and environment, recruit experts, set strategy... Execute.. Review... Repeat. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple 28 weeks ago
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"The biggest threat to this country is losing energy, if we had no power for even a few days the whole country would collapse.
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this read a book called peak oil about the oil supply to the uk being cut off by a series of accidents and incedents .it proecide that the country would be at a complete stand still within a fortnight and under marshal law within the month bringing about rioting and general anarky . |
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest "
You mean the spring tide, that happens every 7 days or so. As in neaps and springs? |
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest
You mean the spring tide, that happens every 7 days or so. As in neaps and springs?"
“and the spring tides, which feels a bit strange as it’s autumn” or words to that effect |
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery"
Hard disagree.
The government were all hands on deck for disaster capitalism with the brexit and covid disasters. They will have learned a lot. Next time they will be even more efficient at lining their own and their friends pockets. |
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery
Hard disagree.
The government were all hands on deck for disaster capitalism with the brexit and covid disasters. They will have learned a lot. Next time they will be even more efficient at lining their own and their friends pockets. "
I wish I could disagree but I can't |
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Prepared or not, well planned or not, the plan goes out the window when the first shot is fired.
If the UK goes up in flames, the world would be in the mire as the immigrants would have nowhere to go and the people smuggler gangs would be out of business.
All those syrians, iraqis, afghans that head this way would need to head to one of their new friendly countries like China, Iran or Russia - I don't think so. |
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"Prepared or not, well planned or not, the plan goes out the window when the first shot is fired.
If the UK goes up in flames, the world would be in the mire as the immigrants would have nowhere to go and the people smuggler gangs would be out of business.
All those syrians, iraqis, afghans that head this way would need to head to one of their new friendly countries like China, Iran or Russia - I don't think so."
I assume you're referring to the asylum seekers who cross in boats. Europe take far more than we do so they would just stay there |
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful "
I have a AR you can borrow  |
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow "
I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. |
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow
I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. "
lol i would suggest the 5.56. My others are not NATO standard . |
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"Prepared or not, well planned or not, the plan goes out the window when the first shot is fired.
If the UK goes up in flames, the world would be in the mire as the immigrants would have nowhere to go and the people smuggler gangs would be out of business.
All those syrians, iraqis, afghans that head this way would need to head to one of their new friendly countries like China, Iran or Russia - I don't think so.
I assume you're referring to the asylum seekers who cross in boats. Europe take far more than we do so they would just stay there "
Not quite, by the time we have a problem at our front door europe would be in turmoil. Just look at the sorry state of the EU today, Hungary, Slovakia and the way they hold 25 other countries to ransom. Austrian borders in place, German eastern borders now has checks, slowly but surely europe is becoming less of a union. |
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow
I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. lol i would suggest the 5.56. My others are not NATO standard ."
5.56 works for me. I can forage for that over here..you can keep your fancy pants wildcats.. |
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow
I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. lol i would suggest the 5.56. My others are not NATO standard .
5.56 works for me. I can forage for that over here..you can keep your fancy pants wildcats.. "
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