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By *mateur100 OP   Man 50 weeks ago

nr faversham

Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion. "

If someone doesn’t have enough knowledge to make a definite decision one way or the other, they shouldn’t vote on it.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan 50 weeks ago

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"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

If someone doesn’t have enough knowledge to make a definite decision one way or the other, they shouldn’t vote on it. "

They should make an effort to be properly informed. Not doing second jobs.

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

If someone doesn’t have enough knowledge to make a definite decision one way or the other, they shouldn’t vote on it.

They should make an effort to be properly informed. Not doing second jobs. "

I agree on no second jobs, but that’s not a simple solution to being ‘properly informed’

We see plenty of people who are uniformed because they seek information from terrible sources.

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago

Essentially if everyone sought answers from experts in their field, then all votes would be virtual landslides, and correct decisions made almost all the time.

MP’s ignoring experts, thinking they know best, or listening to opinions of uniformed constituents (Brexit, anyone?) or simply toeing party lines leads to broad voting differences.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan 50 weeks ago

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"Essentially if everyone sought answers from experts in their field, then all votes would be virtual landslides, and correct decisions made almost all the time.

MP’s ignoring experts, thinking they know best, or listening to opinions of uniformed constituents (Brexit, anyone?) or simply toeing party lines leads to broad voting differences."

And on top of this, twisting the truth and rolling out manifesto policies which are unrealistic and unachievable. As we are currently seeing

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago


"Essentially if everyone sought answers from experts in their field, then all votes would be virtual landslides, and correct decisions made almost all the time.

MP’s ignoring experts, thinking they know best, or listening to opinions of uniformed constituents (Brexit, anyone?) or simply toeing party lines leads to broad voting differences.

And on top of this, twisting the truth and rolling out manifesto policies which are unrealistic and unachievable. As we are currently seeing "

We’ve seen that for decades though. Let’s not pretend it’s new

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple 50 weeks ago

West Suffolk


"Essentially if everyone sought answers from experts in their field, then all votes would be virtual landslides, and correct decisions made almost all the time.

MP’s ignoring experts, thinking they know best, or listening to opinions of uniformed constituents (Brexit, anyone?) or simply toeing party lines leads to broad voting differences."

Some topics don’t have a definitive right or wrong and the so called experts are just giving their opinion.

A good example is the assisted dying bill. There is no right or wrong answer and there’s medical professionals on both sides of the debate.

Some things are also unknown because they have never happened before. Covid and lockdowns are a good example of this.

What will happen if we don’t lockdown? Well lots of people will die.

What will happen if we do lockdown? Well lots of people will still die, just probably less, but it will cost a trillion quid.

There was no right or wrong answer and hindsight hasn’t really given much insight as to what was right or wrong. My son’s brother in law died. My daughter in law would for sure value her brothers life to be worth a trillion quid. So where should the line have been drawn. Many Covid related bills were agreed by both sides of parliament at the time.

Anyway, the topics themselves are not important, I’m just saying that there isn’t always a clear right or wrong, especially when it comes to tax and public spending.

Should we spend more on ________?

Where do we get the money from?

Can we cut spending on ________?

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By *mateur100 OP   Man 50 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

If someone doesn’t have enough knowledge to make a definite decision one way or the other, they shouldn’t vote on it. "

If an MP doesn't have an opinion on a matter that reaches a Commons vote, I question their validity as an MP. Alternatively, canvass their voters to gauge where local opinion lies and vote that way but abstaining shouldn't be an option

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

If someone doesn’t have enough knowledge to make a definite decision one way or the other, they shouldn’t vote on it.

If an MP doesn't have an opinion on a matter that reaches a Commons vote, I question their validity as an MP. Alternatively, canvass their voters to gauge where local opinion lies and vote that way but abstaining shouldn't be an option "

An MP’s job is not simply to vote whatever way their constitutes desire though - it’s to make the best decision on behalf of their constituents.

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By *mateur100 OP   Man 50 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

If someone doesn’t have enough knowledge to make a definite decision one way or the other, they shouldn’t vote on it.

If an MP doesn't have an opinion on a matter that reaches a Commons vote, I question their validity as an MP. Alternatively, canvass their voters to gauge where local opinion lies and vote that way but abstaining shouldn't be an option

An MP’s job is not simply to vote whatever way their constitutes desire though - it’s to make the best decision on behalf of their constituents."

Which is not aided by abstaining

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan 50 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion."

What do you feel is the downside of allowing MPs to abstain?

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By *mateur100 OP   Man 50 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Should MPs be allowed to abstain in Commons votes? Not in my opinion.

What do you feel is the downside of allowing MPs to abstain?"

They are voted in to represent their constituents. Abstaining fails to do that. If their constituents decided to abstain, where would we be?

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