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The Allotments Act 1925 stipulates that local authorities need consent from the Secretary of State before selling, appropriating, using, or disposing of allotment land for any purpose other than allotments
Angela Rayner has given consent for councils to sell off allotment land to raise cash. So many benefits of allotments in addition to growing food, hobbies, social engagement and potentially assisting with mental health. Substantial allotment community in the UK.
There are reported to be 250,000 allotments in England, could not find accurate figures for Wales. Some authorities have substantial waiting lists for allotment plots.
Another Westminster attack on society |
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"The Allotments Act 1925 stipulates that local authorities need consent from the Secretary of State before selling, appropriating, using, or disposing of allotment land for any purpose other than allotments
Angela Rayner has given consent for councils to sell off allotment land to raise cash. So many benefits of allotments in addition to growing food, hobbies, social engagement and potentially assisting with mental health. Substantial allotment community in the UK.
There are reported to be 250,000 allotments in England, could not find accurate figures for Wales. Some authorities have substantial waiting lists for allotment plots.
Another Westminster attack on society "
That's socialist speak. Can't have people opting out of capitalism and growing their own veggies. |
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"The Allotments Act 1925 stipulates that local authorities need consent from the Secretary of State before selling, appropriating, using, or disposing of allotment land for any purpose other than allotments
Angela Rayner has given consent for councils to sell off allotment land to raise cash. So many benefits of allotments in addition to growing food, hobbies, social engagement and potentially assisting with mental health. Substantial allotment community in the UK.
There are reported to be 250,000 allotments in England, could not find accurate figures for Wales. Some authorities have substantial waiting lists for allotment plots.
Another Westminster attack on society
That's socialist speak. Can't have people opting out of capitalism and growing their own veggies. "
Just appalling, as bad as selling off school playing fields (another Labour ploy to drag everybody down to same level). Now a sensible allotment policy that gets people outdoors in a useful activity is being sacrificed on the socialist anvil of urban expansion). God help us. |
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"The Allotments Act 1925 stipulates that local authorities need consent from the Secretary of State before selling, appropriating, using, or disposing of allotment land for any purpose other than allotments
Angela Rayner has given consent for councils to sell off allotment land to raise cash. So many benefits of allotments in addition to growing food, hobbies, social engagement and potentially assisting with mental health. Substantial allotment community in the UK.
There are reported to be 250,000 allotments in England, could not find accurate figures for Wales. Some authorities have substantial waiting lists for allotment plots.
Another Westminster attack on society
That's socialist speak. Can't have people opting out of capitalism and growing their own veggies.
Just appalling, as bad as selling off school playing fields (another Labour ploy to drag everybody down to same level). Now a sensible allotment policy that gets people outdoors in a useful activity is being sacrificed on the socialist anvil of urban expansion). God help us. "
Wait, forcing people into capitalism is socialist? |
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"Just appalling, as bad as selling off school playing fields (another Labour ploy to drag everybody down to same level). Now a sensible allotment policy that gets people outdoors in a useful activity is being sacrificed on the socialist anvil of urban expansion). God help us."
Wasn't selling off school playing fields a Tory idea?
A quick google says that between 1979 and 1997 about 10,000 were sold off.
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Let me just put forward these facts.
1) You're stepping into an absolute legal minefield if you grow food in an allotment.
2) Big corporate companies own copyright, patents and trademarks on certain varieties of food. Don't believe me? Then check your local friendly search engine for "Pink Lady" and "Honeycrisp" apples.
3) Big corporate companies also own copyright, patents and trademarks on "killers" which can be safely sprayed over "their" copyrighted, patented and trademarked varieties of food, but will kill everything else.
4) Why on earth would allowing little old people to rent allotments and grow apple trees from seeds of copyrighted, patented and trademarked varieties of food (for example, granny growing an apple tree from a pip of a Pink Lady apple on her allotment) and then selling apple jam at the local cricket club be in any way acceptable to the big corporate companies who are clearly losing revenue due to granny's jam making?
5) Perhaps that is why allotments should not be allowed? |
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"Let me just put forward these facts.
1) You're stepping into an absolute legal minefield if you grow food in an allotment.
2) Big corporate companies own copyright, patents and trademarks on certain varieties of food. Don't believe me? Then check your local friendly search engine for "Pink Lady" and "Honeycrisp" apples.
3) Big corporate companies also own copyright, patents and trademarks on "killers" which can be safely sprayed over "their" copyrighted, patented and trademarked varieties of food, but will kill everything else.
4) Why on earth would allowing little old people to rent allotments and grow apple trees from seeds of copyrighted, patented and trademarked varieties of food (for example, granny growing an apple tree from a pip of a Pink Lady apple on her allotment) and then selling apple jam at the local cricket club be in any way acceptable to the big corporate companies who are clearly losing revenue due to granny's jam making?
5) Perhaps that is why allotments should not be allowed?"
You should of said GMO's, people would of understood your point, in Russia they are banned. |
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"Let me just put forward these facts.
1) You're stepping into an absolute legal minefield if you grow food in an allotment.
2) Big corporate companies own copyright, patents and trademarks on certain varieties of food. Don't believe me? Then check your local friendly search engine for "Pink Lady" and "Honeycrisp" apples."
Absolute nonsense. You can grow any food you like on your allotment, as long as you don't try to sell the produce.
You can't copyright or patent living things in the UK. Companies do apply for trademarks on their specific cultivars, but that just prevents anyone from selling seedlings under that name. It doesn't stop you growing any of them. |
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"The Allotments Act 1925 stipulates that local authorities need consent from the Secretary of State before selling, appropriating, using, or disposing of allotment land for any purpose other than allotments
Angela Rayner has given consent for councils to sell off allotment land to raise cash. So many benefits of allotments in addition to growing food, hobbies, social engagement and potentially assisting with mental health. Substantial allotment community in the UK.
There are reported to be 250,000 allotments in England, could not find accurate figures for Wales. Some authorities have substantial waiting lists for allotment plots.
Another Westminster attack on society "
Is it purely for cash? Or is it to free up land for building the houses that they promised |
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Absolute nonsense. You can grow any food you like on your allotment, as long as you don't try to sell the produce.
Absolutely correct.
But that doesn't help granny who is selling home made sausage rolls at the local cricket club once a year during the local cricket club local fete. |
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"Just appalling, as bad as selling off school playing fields (another Labour ploy to drag everybody down to same level). Now a sensible allotment policy that gets people outdoors in a useful activity is being sacrificed on the socialist anvil of urban expansion). God help us.
Wasn't selling off school playing fields a Tory idea?
A quick google says that between 1979 and 1997 about 10,000 were sold off.
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They've both done it in fact. But aren't the socialist meant to champion the social conditions of the working man? |
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"Let me just put forward these facts.
1) You're stepping into an absolute legal minefield if you grow food in an allotment.
2) Big corporate companies own copyright, patents and trademarks on certain varieties of food. Don't believe me? Then check your local friendly search engine for "Pink Lady" and "Honeycrisp" apples.
Absolute nonsense. You can grow any food you like on your allotment, as long as you don't try to sell the produce.
You can't copyright or patent living things in the UK. Companies do apply for trademarks on their specific cultivars, but that just prevents anyone from selling seedlings under that name. It doesn't stop you growing any of them."
As an allotmenter, there are some who grow commercially on a small scale. A blind eyes is turned. Most just trade surplus with other plot holders or donate to food banks. Freedom of choice is obviously anathema to the socialists who prefer to concrete over allotments. |
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"The Allotments Act 1925 stipulates that local authorities need consent from the Secretary of State before selling, appropriating, using, or disposing of allotment land for any purpose other than allotments
Angela Rayner has given consent for councils to sell off allotment land to raise cash. So many benefits of allotments in addition to growing food, hobbies, social engagement and potentially assisting with mental health. Substantial allotment community in the UK.
There are reported to be 250,000 allotments in England, could not find accurate figures for Wales. Some authorities have substantial waiting lists for allotment plots.
Another Westminster attack on society
Is it purely for cash? Or is it to free up land for building the houses that they promised "
It read as raising cash. I would have thought not good media for councils biodiversity policies |
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"Let me just put forward these facts.
1) You're stepping into an absolute legal minefield if you grow food in an allotment.
2) Big corporate companies own copyright, patents and trademarks on certain varieties of food. Don't believe me? Then check your local friendly search engine for "Pink Lady" and "Honeycrisp" apples.
Absolute nonsense. You can grow any food you like on your allotment, as long as you don't try to sell the produce.
You can't copyright or patent living things in the UK. Companies do apply for trademarks on their specific cultivars, but that just prevents anyone from selling seedlings under that name. It doesn't stop you growing any of them.
As an allotmenter, there are some who grow commercially on a small scale. A blind eyes is turned. Most just trade surplus with other plot holders or donate to food banks. Freedom of choice is obviously anathema to the socialists who prefer to concrete over allotments."
Then will the developer will have to purchase biodiversity net gain credits for the habitat loss on the allotments (if used to build houses) and add the cost to the house. They will probably claim as brown field irrespective of its fertile use to grow food |
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"Let me just put forward these facts.
1) You're stepping into an absolute legal minefield if you grow food in an allotment.
2) Big corporate companies own copyright, patents and trademarks on certain varieties of food. Don't believe me? Then check your local friendly search engine for "Pink Lady" and "Honeycrisp" apples.
3) Big corporate companies also own copyright, patents and trademarks on "killers" which can be safely sprayed over "their" copyrighted, patented and trademarked varieties of food, but will kill everything else.
4) Why on earth would allowing little old people to rent allotments and grow apple trees from seeds of copyrighted, patented and trademarked varieties of food (for example, granny growing an apple tree from a pip of a Pink Lady apple on her allotment) and then selling apple jam at the local cricket club be in any way acceptable to the big corporate companies who are clearly losing revenue due to granny's jam making?
5) Perhaps that is why allotments should not be allowed?"
The chance of granny getting a pure "pink lady" apple is very small, unless she Polenated it her self by hand on the company land.
To keep a F1 variety you can't let insects do a random job. |
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By *9alMan 39 weeks ago
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some allotments may have the odd apple tree but most grow potatoes cabbage etc perhaps some fabbers have a fantasy of an older woman called Eve tempting men into an allotment shed with forbidden apples? |
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"some allotments may have the odd apple tree but most grow potatoes cabbage etc perhaps some fabbers have a fantasy of an older woman called Eve tempting men into an allotment shed with forbidden apples? "
most grow japanese knot and himalayan balsam in your town but.  |
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"Is it purely for cash? Or is it to free up land for building the houses that they promised "
Most likely. Get some short term cash from the sale then longer term cash from the council tax.
At least in theory anyway. Assuming the people in any new homes work... |
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"Just appalling, as bad as selling off school playing fields (another Labour ploy to drag everybody down to same level). Now a sensible allotment policy that gets people outdoors in a useful activity is being sacrificed on the socialist anvil of urban expansion). God help us.
Wasn't selling off school playing fields a Tory idea?
A quick google says that between 1979 and 1997 about 10,000 were sold off.
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You socialists come on here quoting numbers but do not mention how many Labour sold. What's that? 226 you say? Well, they would have sold more if the Tories had left any to actually sell. I have no idea how many schools there were back then but selling 10,000 would not have left many. |
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