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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK " It’s a different aid budget to the “foreign aid” budget Basically what use to happen when we were in the the eu is the past is that all countries put into a central pot for what is term “natural emergencies “ so for example, floods and wildfires… they also get put raised in level in the eu region development fund to help them back on their feet | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. " Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money? | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money?" Because as a society we have decided that the responsibility of looking after our allies in times of need should also be shared by those whose selfishness prevents them from realising that helping others is a benefit. | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money? Because as a society we have decided that the responsibility of looking after our allies in times of need should also be shared by those whose selfishness prevents them from realising that helping others is a benefit." Seems like a long winded excuse for why you wouldn't open your own wallet | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money? Because as a society we have decided that the responsibility of looking after our allies in times of need should also be shared by those whose selfishness prevents them from realising that helping others is a benefit. Seems like a long winded excuse for why you wouldn't open your own wallet" I would. But you wouldn't, because you don't understand basic human solidarity, so the government wisely removes the individual choice and uses public funds instead. | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money? Because as a society we have decided that the responsibility of looking after our allies in times of need should also be shared by those whose selfishness prevents them from realising that helping others is a benefit. Seems like a long winded excuse for why you wouldn't open your own wallet I would. But you wouldn't, because you don't understand basic human solidarity, so the government wisely removes the individual choice and uses public funds instead." Sure go ahead and create a fund and let me know how many left wingers contribute. It's easy to pretend like you are compassionate and helpful on the internet. There are causes I care about and I donate for it. What I don't do is go around the internet, lecture others to pretend like I am morally superior and try to use the government to force collecting tax money to help the causes you specifically care about. FWIW I am completely on board with helping an ally. But the original message was criticising people as "selfish" for not willing to help people in trouble. There are millions of people in trouble right now around the world for different reasons. Will you go around helping everyone? Does not helping a few of them make you selfish? | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money? Because as a society we have decided that the responsibility of looking after our allies in times of need should also be shared by those whose selfishness prevents them from realising that helping others is a benefit. Seems like a long winded excuse for why you wouldn't open your own wallet I would. But you wouldn't, because you don't understand basic human solidarity, so the government wisely removes the individual choice and uses public funds instead. Sure go ahead and create a fund and let me know how many left wingers contribute. It's easy to pretend like you are compassionate and helpful on the internet. There are causes I care about and I donate for it. What I don't do is go around the internet, lecture others to pretend like I am morally superior and try to use the government to force collecting tax money to help the causes you specifically care about. FWIW I am completely on board with helping an ally. But the original message was criticising people as "selfish" for not willing to help people in trouble. There are millions of people in trouble right now around the world for different reasons. Will you go around helping everyone? Does not helping a few of them make you selfish?" Take a breath, dude. | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Why don't people who care so much about others like yourself create a fund and send your own money? Because as a society we have decided that the responsibility of looking after our allies in times of need should also be shared by those whose selfishness prevents them from realising that helping others is a benefit. Seems like a long winded excuse for why you wouldn't open your own wallet I would. But you wouldn't, because you don't understand basic human solidarity, so the government wisely removes the individual choice and uses public funds instead. Sure go ahead and create a fund and let me know how many left wingers contribute. It's easy to pretend like you are compassionate and helpful on the internet. There are causes I care about and I donate for it. What I don't do is go around the internet, lecture others to pretend like I am morally superior and try to use the government to force collecting tax money to help the causes you specifically care about. FWIW I am completely on board with helping an ally. But the original message was criticising people as "selfish" for not willing to help people in trouble. There are millions of people in trouble right now around the world for different reasons. Will you go around helping everyone? Does not helping a few of them make you selfish? Take a breath, dude." Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me." So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK " Spain is an EU member. Surely they have a fund for this type of thing? Or do they not help each other out anymore? We have £50 billions deficit. We need to be asking for aid, not sending it. But if they are short of firefighters we have loads of people sitting around doing nothing who can help. | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK Spain is an EU member. Surely they have a fund for this type of thing? Or do they not help each other out anymore? We have £50 billions deficit. We need to be asking for aid, not sending it. But if they are short of firefighters we have loads of people sitting around doing nothing who can help. " You mean the 1.67 million unemployed? | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK Spain is an EU member. Surely they have a fund for this type of thing? Or do they not help each other out anymore? We have £50 billions deficit. We need to be asking for aid, not sending it. But if they are short of firefighters we have loads of people sitting around doing nothing who can help. You mean the 1.67 million unemployed? " Well I’m sure they don’t need 1.6 million but yes, if they are short of people to help we should send some, don’t you agree? There’s all sorts of people sat around doing nothing who I’m sure would love to help. | |||
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"Why does Spain need any financial assistance at all with wildfires? It has about the same national debt as the UK but a much better performing economy. It’s a modern sophisticated country. If it hadn’t factored dealing with wildfires into its budget, it should just borrow some more. It’s probably in a better financial position than Labour UK to fund unexpected expenditure. The yield on Spanish ten year government bonds is 3.2%. The UK equivalent yield is 4.6%. Much better for Spain to borrow the money than the UK to borrow it and send it to Spain. Next they will be asking us to fund their railways and unemployment benefits." Course they will mate. Given half the chance, those freeloaders will just move into your spare room and steal all the Spam and Pot Noodles out of your cupboards. Good old blighty would never ask for help. Nah, we're a country that likes to tell its friends and neighbours to fuck off just to make sure they don't think we'd ever need any help. | |||
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"Why does Spain need any financial assistance at all with wildfires? It has about the same national debt as the UK but a much better performing economy. It’s a modern sophisticated country. If it hadn’t factored dealing with wildfires into its budget, it should just borrow some more. It’s probably in a better financial position than Labour UK to fund unexpected expenditure. The yield on Spanish ten year government bonds is 3.2%. The UK equivalent yield is 4.6%. Much better for Spain to borrow the money than the UK to borrow it and send it to Spain. Next they will be asking us to fund their railways and unemployment benefits. Course they will mate. Given half the chance, those freeloaders will just move into your spare room and steal all the Spam and Pot Noodles out of your cupboards. Good old blighty would never ask for help. Nah, we're a country that likes to tell its friends and neighbours to fuck off just to make sure they don't think we'd ever need any help." So my fence blows down in the wind. I go to my neighbour, who earns less than I do and has a bigger mortgage and say: “My fence has blown down. I know that you are struggling to pay the school fees because of VAT, and your wife lost her job as a retail store manager. But nevertheless my fence has blown down and I’d like you to help pay for it. It’s the moral thing for you to do”. Here you are advocating for struggling Britain to fund its neighbours who are better placed to bear their own strain. Sounds totally immoral to me. I thought you were more intelligent than everyone else. | |||
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"Why does Spain need any financial assistance at all with wildfires? It has about the same national debt as the UK but a much better performing economy. It’s a modern sophisticated country. If it hadn’t factored dealing with wildfires into its budget, it should just borrow some more. It’s probably in a better financial position than Labour UK to fund unexpected expenditure. The yield on Spanish ten year government bonds is 3.2%. The UK equivalent yield is 4.6%. Much better for Spain to borrow the money than the UK to borrow it and send it to Spain. Next they will be asking us to fund their railways and unemployment benefits. Course they will mate. Given half the chance, those freeloaders will just move into your spare room and steal all the Spam and Pot Noodles out of your cupboards. Good old blighty would never ask for help. Nah, we're a country that likes to tell its friends and neighbours to fuck off just to make sure they don't think we'd ever need any help. So my fence blows down in the wind. I go to my neighbour, who earns less than I do and has a bigger mortgage and say: “My fence has blown down. I know that you are struggling to pay the school fees because of VAT, and your wife lost her job as a retail store manager. But nevertheless my fence has blown down and I’d like you to help pay for it. It’s the moral thing for you to do”. Here you are advocating for struggling Britain to fund its neighbours who are better placed to bear their own strain. Sounds totally immoral to me. I thought you were more intelligent than everyone else. " Yeah, that would make complete sense if we were talking about your fence, instead of a massive natural catastrophe. | |||
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"Why does Spain need any financial assistance at all with wildfires? It has about the same national debt as the UK but a much better performing economy. It’s a modern sophisticated country. If it hadn’t factored dealing with wildfires into its budget, it should just borrow some more. It’s probably in a better financial position than Labour UK to fund unexpected expenditure. The yield on Spanish ten year government bonds is 3.2%. The UK equivalent yield is 4.6%. Much better for Spain to borrow the money than the UK to borrow it and send it to Spain. Next they will be asking us to fund their railways and unemployment benefits." Maybe they're focussing on tackling the wildfires first, and then they'll shift on to blaming the British Labour party for everything after. Seems like a bonkers way to prioritise things but hey, that might be their thinking. | |||
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"Also, and I realise im the eyes of some this makes me an idiot, I have in the past been known to do favours for people who are wealthier than me and could have just hited someone, merely because I value our relationship and want to invest in it. What a fool I am to enable those freeloading bastards." Get your point completely and fail to understand why money isn't pouring in from our 'friends' when we're up to our necks in flood water. | |||
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"Also, and I realise im the eyes of some this makes me an idiot, I have in the past been known to do favours for people who are wealthier than me and could have just hited someone, merely because I value our relationship and want to invest in it. What a fool I am to enable those freeloading bastards. Get your point completely and fail to understand why money isn't pouring in from our 'friends' when we're up to our necks in flood water." Might have something to do with those inverted commas you put around the word "friends". You can't berate people for asking for help and then berate them for not offering to help. Kind of makes it look like in your book there is no right answer. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness?" I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about." That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss*" Where did I make such a comment? | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment?" Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too." "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. " Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. | |||
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"Spain are asking for specialised fire fighting equipment (water bombing planes) and fire fighter assistance from other EU members. " Hopefully just from EU members. Another Brexit benefit. | |||
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"Spain are asking for specialised fire fighting equipment (water bombing planes) and fire fighter assistance from other EU members. Hopefully just from EU members. Another Brexit benefit." Ah yes, the luxury of not helping people who need help. It's all coming together for the gammon, isn't it. Pretty soon they'll make it legal for you to kick beggars in the face. | |||
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"I am just laughing because it’s so plainly obvious the people who don’t read other posts… and then argue blindly and wildly.. so let’s try again.. literally 2nd post in the thread!!!! The EU does have an emergency fund designed for natural disasters/ emergencies such as wildfires, floods, earthquakes ect All eu countries put in a percentage of their GDP, the uk did pay when we were members And yes the uk were also beneficiaries are well via upgraded tier placements in the EU regional development fund money For example most of the newer flood defences on the river Severn … those came from EU regional development fund money ! And you know that big thing in the south west … the Eden project…. EU regional development fund money " Have you been to the Eden Project? It’s totally shit. And where did the EU get its money from? | |||
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"Spain are asking for specialised fire fighting equipment (water bombing planes) and fire fighter assistance from other EU members. Hopefully just from EU members. Another Brexit benefit." Oh my god… are you really that heartless… that is a new low even for you buck! If we have the bloody planes and we are not using them then obviously help them!!! Remember when there the Greek wildfires on kos and corfu and brits on holiday literally had to jump into the med to escape the flames…. What would you have said if the uk government had said… nah, on your own, not in the EU anymore…. Brexit benefit!!!!!!!! P.s the UK did help… just so you know! | |||
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"Spain are asking for specialised fire fighting equipment (water bombing planes) and fire fighter assistance from other EU members. Hopefully just from EU members. Another Brexit benefit. Oh my god… are you really that heartless… that is a new low even for you buck! If we have the bloody planes and we are not using them then obviously help them!!! Remember when there the Greek wildfires on kos and corfu and brits on holiday literally had to jump into the med to escape the flames…. What would you have said if the uk government had said… nah, on your own, not in the EU anymore…. Brexit benefit!!!!!!!! P.s the UK did help… just so you know! " We don't have the equipment they need, we do have people and other equipment earmarked specifically for overseas support, if it is requested. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf." Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith  Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time. | |||
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"Spain are asking for specialised fire fighting equipment (water bombing planes) and fire fighter assistance from other EU members. Hopefully just from EU members. Another Brexit benefit. Oh my god… are you really that heartless… that is a new low even for you buck! If we have the bloody planes and we are not using them then obviously help them!!! Remember when there the Greek wildfires on kos and corfu and brits on holiday literally had to jump into the med to escape the flames…. What would you have said if the uk government had said… nah, on your own, not in the EU anymore…. Brexit benefit!!!!!!!! P.s the UK did help… just so you know! " When taxes go up for everyone in October we will know who to come to for an explanation…. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time."Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is. Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time.
Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is.
"That's not what was intended. Anyone with a neutral mind would be able to see that. It's your obsession with smearing others instead of having a proper debate that makes you think that way. " Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy." The way you decided to misinterpret what I said and tried to make it look like I said Hitler was better, justifies the behaviour to be compared with a fanatical witch hunt. | |||
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"Spain are asking for specialised fire fighting equipment (water bombing planes) and fire fighter assistance from other EU members. Hopefully just from EU members. Another Brexit benefit. Oh my god… are you really that heartless… that is a new low even for you buck! If we have the bloody planes and we are not using them then obviously help them!!! Remember when there the Greek wildfires on kos and corfu and brits on holiday literally had to jump into the med to escape the flames…. What would you have said if the uk government had said… nah, on your own, not in the EU anymore…. Brexit benefit!!!!!!!! P.s the UK did help… just so you know! When taxes go up for everyone in October we will know who to come to for an explanation…." Oh dear lord!!! I imagine you folding your arms thinking “well that him!” But I’m wondering….. do you actually listen to yourself? | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time.
Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is.
That's not what was intended. Anyone with a neutral mind would be able to see that. It's your obsession with smearing others instead of having a proper debate that makes you think that way.
Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy.
The way you decided to misinterpret what I said and tried to make it look like I said Hitler was better, justifies the behaviour to be compared with a fanatical witch hunt."Dude, you said Hitler was honest while communist dictators weren't and that's why you don't trust the left. I didn't make you bring Nazism into it, you did it all by yourself. Maybe avoid it in future if you don't want to say anything that makes you look bad. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time.
Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is.
That's not what was intended. Anyone with a neutral mind would be able to see that. It's your obsession with smearing others instead of having a proper debate that makes you think that way.
Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy.
The way you decided to misinterpret what I said and tried to make it look like I said Hitler was better, justifies the behaviour to be compared with a fanatical witch hunt.
Dude, you said Hitler was honest while communist dictators weren't and that's why you don't trust the left.
"Did I ever say being honest somehow makes one evil better than the other? One evil being honest is easy to find out that they are evil. The other evil being dishonest is a bit hard to find out. " I didn't make you bring Nazism into it, you did it all by yourself. Maybe avoid it in future if you don't want to say anything that makes you look bad." Why should I change what I say just because some religiously driven ideological fanatics deliberately misinterpret what I say to avoid debates? | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time.
Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is.
That's not what was intended. Anyone with a neutral mind would be able to see that. It's your obsession with smearing others instead of having a proper debate that makes you think that way.
Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy.
The way you decided to misinterpret what I said and tried to make it look like I said Hitler was better, justifies the behaviour to be compared with a fanatical witch hunt.
Dude, you said Hitler was honest while communist dictators weren't and that's why you don't trust the left.
Did I ever say being honest somehow makes one evil better than the other? One evil being honest is easy to find out that they are evil. The other evil being dishonest is a bit hard to find out.
I didn't make you bring Nazism into it, you did it all by yourself. Maybe avoid it in future if you don't want to say anything that makes you look bad.
Why should I change what I say just because some religiously driven ideological fanatics deliberately misinterpret what I say to avoid debates?"No, no, you're right, feel free to continue to bring up how Hitler's honesty as compared to communist dictators is an influence on your choice to be right-wing. In fact, you should point it out every time you post. If anyone takes that as evidence of how messed-up your political viewpoint is, that's on them. | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time.
Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is.
That's not what was intended. Anyone with a neutral mind would be able to see that. It's your obsession with smearing others instead of having a proper debate that makes you think that way.
Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy.
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I didn't make you bring Nazism into it, you did it all by yourself. Maybe avoid it in future if you don't want to say anything that makes you look bad.
Why should I change what I say just because some religiously driven ideological fanatics deliberately misinterpret what I say to avoid debates?
No, no, you're right, feel free to continue to bring up how Hitler's honesty as compared to communist dictators is an influence on your choice to be right-wing. In fact, you should point it out every time you post. If anyone takes that as evidence of how messed-up your political viewpoint is, that's on them."As I said above, you deliberately misinterpreting things to avoid debates isn't my problem | |||
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" Must have been tiring for you pretending like you are morally superior to the rest. Not for me. So, listen: if you're that concerned about morality, how about you start by examining your own positions with honesty and frankness, rather than accusing others of affecting moral superiority when they point out your selfishness? I have been frank and honest about my moral views. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left who pretend like they are morally superior but wouldn't open their own wallets to fund the cause they care about. That whole thing about the left refusing to pay was just you, ranting all by yourself. And you have indeed been frank and honest about your views. That comment you made about how you prefer Hitler because he was honest? *chef's kiss* Where did I make such a comment? Maybe you were in a fugue state when you wrote it. To be honest if I'd written shit like that I'd probably try to forget it too. "Hitler was evil and was open about his views." This is what I said. Where exactly did I say he was "Better"? If someone says "Hitler is vegan", would you say that the person called Hitler better? It's just a matter of fact. You just proved my point about the left being fanatical. Yeah, you left out the bits where you favourably compared him to left-wing dictators and explained that you're right-wing because Hitler was more honest than the communists. Not just "a matter of fact", that. You clearly stated a preference for old Adolf. Where did I "favourably" say anything. Looks like you are the one running a "smear campaign". My point was that Stalin and Mao came to power wearing a mask about about striving for equality. Hitler was evil and was open about it. Did I ever say that one is better than the other? All of them are equally bad. Instead of trying to run a fanatical witch hunt, you could consider debating with good faith Your comments aren't any different from religious fanatics calling people "sinful" all the time.
Yeah, you saying that Hitler was open about his motives while the dictators who don't align with you politically were dishonest is you literally explaining your preference. That might not be what you intended, but that's what it is.
That's not what was intended. Anyone with a neutral mind would be able to see that. It's your obsession with smearing others instead of having a proper debate that makes you think that way.
Also, "fanatical witch hunt"? Calm down, bro. I'm just pointing out that your opinions are shoddy.
The way you decided to misinterpret
I didn't make you bring Nazism into it, you did it all by yourself. Maybe avoid it in future if you don't want to say anything that makes you look bad.
Why should I change what I say just because some religiously driven ideological fanatics deliberately misinterpret what I say to avoid debates?
No, no, you're right, feel free to continue to bring up how Hitler's honesty as compared to communist dictators is an influence on your choice to be right-wing. In fact, you should point it out every time you post. If anyone takes that as evidence of how messed-up your political viewpoint is, that's on them.
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"This thread is hilarious. It’s the absolute confirmation that the political stereotypes are alive and well on fab. I’m paraphrasing of course but…. “This group of people have had something bad happen, you should send them your money and if you don’t you’re heartless and morally bankrupt. Not to mention a far right Nazi” “Erm…. I’m not heartless or a Nazi but the people asking for help aren’t actually asking for money, they are mainly asking for equipment that we don’t have a massive excess of. Also the “friends only club” they are in that we’re not in, that they don’t want us in, have loads of it and loads more money than us. They also have more ability to borrow money at a cheaper rate than us. We’d have to borrow it cos we’re skint but us borrowing it and giving it to them and never getting it back from them but we’d still have to pay it back to who we borrowed it off which is probably them anyway, at a higher cost than they could borrow it themselves from others in their club and would have to pay it back, is kinda stupid. I’m not sure you’re just not virtue signalling? Have you actually sent any money yourself or offered any type of assistance?” “Nazi” " The guy who brought up Nazis is on your side of the argument. | |||
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"This thread is hilarious. It’s the absolute confirmation that the political stereotypes are alive and well on fab. I’m paraphrasing of course but…. “This group of people have had something bad happen, you should send them your money and if you don’t you’re heartless and morally bankrupt. Not to mention a far right Nazi” “Erm…. I’m not heartless or a Nazi but the people asking for help aren’t actually asking for money, they are mainly asking for equipment that we don’t have a massive excess of. Also the “friends only club” they are in that we’re not in, that they don’t want us in, have loads of it and loads more money than us. They also have more ability to borrow money at a cheaper rate than us. We’d have to borrow it cos we’re skint but us borrowing it and giving it to them and never getting it back from them but we’d still have to pay it back to who we borrowed it off which is probably them anyway, at a higher cost than they could borrow it themselves from others in their club and would have to pay it back, is kinda stupid. I’m not sure you’re just not virtue signalling? Have you actually sent any money yourself or offered any type of assistance?” “Nazi” The guy who brought up Nazis is on your side of the argument." I read what he said. And at no point did he claim Hitler to be “his hero” (again paraphrasing) or anything of the sort. So what “your side” hope to gain by attempting some kind of personal smear is beyond me. I can only assume it’s because that’s easier than talking about the issue itself? Can’t beat a bit of misdirection. So what help have you offered personally? Have you been to your local Spanish consulate? I can hook you up if you want, I’m on first name terms with a couple of the staff of the one in Chelsea. Been there about 20 times in the past 12 months or so. The chants of “we all need to do something” and then do nothing, while hoping everyone else will do something. Why do “your side” do that? Why don’t you just quietly send them some of your money and let other people do what they want with theirs? Chances are Reeves will borrow a few billion and send it to them anyway You see i have no problem with people on “your side” calling me heartless. I’ve had 2 angiograms, an angioplasty and open heart surgery. I’ve seen my heart on a computer screen so I know I have one, despite what my ex wife’s lawyer might tell you. I’ll even except what they really mean by the term in that I don’t really want to give my money to “your cause” but I am quite happy to support “my causes” without publishing such support all over social media and the local press. When someone chooses to attack the person rather than their opinions on an issue, it’s usually because the person they are attacking holds a reasonable opinion. It’s just one you don’t like. | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK " The European Union is sending two planes to help Spain tackle raging wildfires, after the country activated an EU disaster assistance mechanism for fires for the first time ever. Interior Minister Fernando Grande-Marlaska told local media he had requested two water bomber aircraft from the EU to be deployed to the worst affected areas. My understanding of this is that it is an EU country asking for assistance from other EU countries and access to an EU fund set aside for such circumstances. Where does the UK come into all of this as some people seem to be getting very excited over something that hasn't actually happened? | |||
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"This thread is hilarious. It’s the absolute confirmation that the political stereotypes are alive and well on fab. I’m paraphrasing of course but…. “This group of people have had something bad happen, you should send them your money and if you don’t you’re heartless and morally bankrupt. Not to mention a far right Nazi” “Erm…. I’m not heartless or a Nazi but the people asking for help aren’t actually asking for money, they are mainly asking for equipment that we don’t have a massive excess of. Also the “friends only club” they are in that we’re not in, that they don’t want us in, have loads of it and loads more money than us. They also have more ability to borrow money at a cheaper rate than us. We’d have to borrow it cos we’re skint but us borrowing it and giving it to them and never getting it back from them but we’d still have to pay it back to who we borrowed it off which is probably them anyway, at a higher cost than they could borrow it themselves from others in their club and would have to pay it back, is kinda stupid. I’m not sure you’re just not virtue signalling? Have you actually sent any money yourself or offered any type of assistance?” “Nazi” The guy who brought up Nazis is on your side of the argument. I read what he said. And at no point did he claim Hitler to be “his hero” (again paraphrasing) or anything of the sort. So what “your side” hope to gain by attempting some kind of personal smear is beyond me. I can only assume it’s because that’s easier than talking about the issue itself? Can’t beat a bit of misdirection. So what help have you offered personally? Have you been to your local Spanish consulate? I can hook you up if you want, I’m on first name terms with a couple of the staff of the one in Chelsea. Been there about 20 times in the past 12 months or so. The chants of “we all need to do something” and then do nothing, while hoping everyone else will do something. Why do “your side” do that? Why don’t you just quietly send them some of your money and let other people do what they want with theirs? Chances are Reeves will borrow a few billion and send it to them anyway You see i have no problem with people on “your side” calling me heartless. I’ve had 2 angiograms, an angioplasty and open heart surgery. I’ve seen my heart on a computer screen so I know I have one, despite what my ex wife’s lawyer might tell you. I’ll even except what they really mean by the term in that I don’t really want to give my money to “your cause” but I am quite happy to support “my causes” without publishing such support all over social media and the local press. When someone chooses to attack the person rather than their opinions on an issue, it’s usually because the person they are attacking holds a reasonable opinion. It’s just one you don’t like. " The criticisms on here have all been of opinions, not characters. It's just that some people have a tendency, when confronted with the objective moral paucity of their viewpoints, and the absence of any reasonable defence for them, to act as if the criticisms are being levelled at them personally, rather than their claims and their ideas. | |||
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" When someone chooses to attack the person rather than their opinions on an issue, it’s usually because the person they are attacking holds a reasonable opinion. It’s just one you don’t like. The criticisms on here have all been of opinions, not characters. " Deliberately misinterpreting someone's opinion and arguing against that is not criticising the opinion, it's a strawman argument at its best " It's just that some people have a tendency, when confronted with the objective moral paucity of their viewpoints, and the absence of any reasonable defence for them, to act as if the criticisms are being levelled at them personally, rather than their claims and their ideas." We have all made justifications for my moral views that you can see when you scroll up. You are the one who failed to address any questions that were asked and instead tried to character shame others. | |||
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". You are the one who failed to address any questions that were asked and instead tried to character shame others." If by "questions" you mean you crying about the fanatical left witch-hunting you over your totally innocent and not-at-all weird reference to Hitler, then I do believe I made it very clear several times why what you said is, in fact, what you said. I'll admit it's pretty hard to resist criticising your character, but fortunately your political opinions provide plenty to work with. I say "plenty", I don't mean in the sense it's possible to discuss them seriously. I mean that they're helpfully representative of somebody who gets their news from the kind of people who, deep down, really want Putin to invade continental Europe. | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK " The news I read on this was they were asking the EU for help. Also mostly in fighting the fires rather than financial. As we no longer belong to the EU how does this affect us..? | |||
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". You are the one who failed to address any questions that were asked and instead tried to character shame others. If by "questions" you mean you crying about the fanatical left witch-hunting you over your totally innocent and not-at-all weird reference to Hitler, then I do believe I made it very clear several times why what you said is, in fact, what you said. " No you didn't. None of what I said could be interpreted could be interpreted the way you did. But then, I didn't expect anything less from lefties. " I'll admit it's pretty hard to resist criticising your character, but fortunately your political opinions provide plenty to work with. " That's just like... your opinion. " I say "plenty", I don't mean in the sense it's possible to discuss them seriously. I mean that they're helpfully representative of somebody who gets their news from the kind of people who, deep down, really want Putin to invade continental Europe." Yet another baseless accusation. I am against Putin. But again, didn't expect anything less from a leftie. | |||
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". I say "plenty", I don't mean in the sense it's possible to discuss them seriously. I mean that they're helpfully representative of somebody who gets their news from the kind of people who, deep down, really want Putin to invade continental Europe. Yet another baseless accusation. I am against Putin. But again, didn't expect anything less from a leftie. " Please, learn to read. If not your own posts, then at least other people's. | |||
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". I say "plenty", I don't mean in the sense it's possible to discuss them seriously. I mean that they're helpfully representative of somebody who gets their news from the kind of people who, deep down, really want Putin to invade continental Europe. Yet another baseless accusation. I am against Putin. But again, didn't expect anything less from a leftie. Please, learn to read. If not your own posts, then at least other people's." I read. It looks like you just don't have an answer yet again. | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK The European Union is sending two planes to help Spain tackle raging wildfires, after the country activated an EU disaster assistance mechanism for fires for the first time ever. Interior Minister Fernando Grande-Marlaska told local media he had requested two water bomber aircraft from the EU to be deployed to the worst affected areas. My understanding of this is that it is an EU country asking for assistance from other EU countries and access to an EU fund set aside for such circumstances. Where does the UK come into all of this as some people seem to be getting very excited over something that hasn't actually happened?" Can I say don’t you dare let actual facts get in the way of an answer I demand you get back to the Brexit bashing and disregard your entire point!!!!! | |||
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". I say "plenty", I don't mean in the sense it's possible to discuss them seriously. I mean that they're helpfully representative of somebody who gets their news from the kind of people who, deep down, really want Putin to invade continental Europe. Yet another baseless accusation. I am against Putin. But again, didn't expect anything less from a leftie. Please, learn to read. If not your own posts, then at least other people's. I read. It looks like you just don't have an answer yet again." Read it again, and pay special attention to who I am describing as pro-Putin. Then have a think about whether you're really equipped for these kinds of conversations. | |||
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". I say "plenty", I don't mean in the sense it's possible to discuss them seriously. I mean that they're helpfully representative of somebody who gets their news from the kind of people who, deep down, really want Putin to invade continental Europe. Yet another baseless accusation. I am against Putin. But again, didn't expect anything less from a leftie. Please, learn to read. If not your own posts, then at least other people's. I read. It looks like you just don't have an answer yet again. Read it again, and pay special attention to who I am describing as pro-Putin. " I paid attention. I said I am against Putin. I am not going to follow any Putin simps either " Then have a think about whether you're really equipped for these kinds of conversations." Bit rich coming from you after that hilarious misinterpretation of the Hitler comments  | |||
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" I paid attention." No you didn't. You thought I was accusing you of being pro-Putin because you have the reading comprehension of a six-year-old, which is why you don't understand that you literally said you prefer Hitler to communist dictators. But this is going in circles. It's been real. Best of luck. Stop bringing up nazis. Bye. | |||
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" I paid attention. No you didn't. You thought I was accusing you of being pro-Putin " I explained what I said above. You conveniently cut out my explanation. Maybe you only read the first line. " because you have the reading comprehension of a six-year-old, " It looks like you have an attention span of a TikTok addict. A three line comment isn't an essay, you know? " which is why you don't understand that you literally said you prefer Hitler to communist dictators. " I explained this one too clearly. Anyone who reads it can understand what I said. It's clear that you can't handle a rational argument, and try to take the easy way out by making toothless allegations like these | |||
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" I paid attention. No you didn't. You thought I was accusing you of being pro-Putin I explained what I said above. You conveniently cut out my explanation. Maybe you only read the first line. " Yeah, nah. You just misread it, which is why your reaction was "I'm not pro-Putin". I didn't say you were pro-Putin. You just don't read very well. Hey, it's not your fault. But if you don't admit it you'll never get any smarter. | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. " Excuse me? Perhaps you can enlighten me? | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. " Seconded | |||
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"Aside from the fact that the OP doesn’t understand the difference between mutual aid and foreign aid, the sheer selfishness of some people in being unwilling to help other nations - and human beings in crisis - really does make me shake my head in disbelief. Seconded " Well since you're online, perhaps you can tell me what it is that I allegedly don't understand and why chummy seems to suggest that I wouldn't want to help other nations in crisis... | |||
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"Once again we have a situation whereby a country, Spain in this instance, is asking for assistance with wildfire. In my UK, we wouldn't be subsidising other countries as a rule so that they become dependent upon it, we'd have an annual budget for foreign aid to be used for natural disasters. I'm absolutely sure that the people who benefit, no matter whether their politicians are friendly towards us, most certainly would be grateful and friendly towards the UK " This "In my, UK" Thank you for your assistance in this matter | |||
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"I repeat you see it as a hand out and a cost, not as help and soft power " You have no idea how I see it | |||
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"I repeat you see it as a hand out and a cost, not as help and soft power You have no idea how I see it" You've put it all out there, we all can | |||
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"You can't pick and choose, that doesn't make it better!! Either you are benevolent and put aside an amount for foreign aid no matter what country or what disaster. Or you pick and choose , transactionally and create a divided world like Trump " I have no issues with helping any country with any disasters. That's what the fund should be about. If you're suggesting that the UK should fund the day to day expenses of a country then I absolutely disagree. Btw you still haven't told me about the difference in aid budgets that I apparently don't understand... enlighten me | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story " Who pays for each? | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each?" One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you " I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. " Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else??? | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. " And secondly, do you though | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else???" That really is the most pathetic response to a statement I've read in a long time. | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else??? That really is the most pathetic response to a statement I've read in a long time. " Well, buckle up babe | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else??? That really is the most pathetic response to a statement I've read in a long time. Well, buckle up babe " I look forward to Welsh independence | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else??? That really is the most pathetic response to a statement I've read in a long time. Well, buckle up babe I look forward to Welsh independence " Theirs a British patriot for you | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else??? That really is the most pathetic response to a statement I've read in a long time. Well, buckle up babe I look forward to Welsh independence Theirs a British patriot for you " I'm Scottish and can spell | |||
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"You clearly have the internet. Where did you get that this was even coming from the foreign aid budget? Foreign aid is government led Mutual aid is ground led I can't find this story Who pays for each? One is paid by the government One is paid by people of good will Which may I guess, isn't you I and everyone else pay for the government, I and many others make charitable donations that you are blissfully unaware of. Or maybe I am aware of because I am one of those everyone else??? That really is the most pathetic response to a statement I've read in a long time. Well, buckle up babe I look forward to Welsh independence Theirs a British patriot for you I'm Scottish and can spell" But no soul | |||
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" I paid attention. No you didn't. You thought I was accusing you of being pro-Putin I explained what I said above. You conveniently cut out my explanation. Maybe you only read the first line. Yeah, nah. You just misread it, which is why your reaction was "I'm not pro-Putin". I didn't say you were pro-Putin. " I said I am against Putin. I didn't say I am not pro-Putin. There is a difference. " You just don't read very well. Hey, it's not your fault. But if you don't admit it you'll never get any smarter." If you are even a little bit smart, you would have understood the difference. | |||
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" I paid attention. No you didn't. You thought I was accusing you of being pro-Putin I explained what I said above. You conveniently cut out my explanation. Maybe you only read the first line. Yeah, nah. You just misread it, which is why your reaction was "I'm not pro-Putin". I didn't say you were pro-Putin. I said I am against Putin. I didn't say I am not pro-Putin. There is a difference. You just don't read very well. Hey, it's not your fault. But if you don't admit it you'll never get any smarter. If you are even a little bit smart, you would have understood the difference. " Blimey, Deja vu | |||
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