A brief backstory but you should read the story for yourself…
A firefighter and union official, falsely sacked, wins his case, advises union members of their rights, home raided by police and all internet-capable devices seized, arrested, cautioned and bailed with one of the bail conditions being to take away his right of freedom of expression, in that he was told he couldn’t tell anyone he had been arrested and to do so would be a criminal offence, that being breaking bail conditions.
Police told Robert Moss that his right to “freedom of expression” had to be “limited to maintain public safety and order” following his arrest on suspicion of malicious communications
His crime? For which no charges have been made…. Talking about his former bosses in a private FB group for firefighter union members.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/16/police-orwellian-powers-gag-firefighter-free-speech-row/
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"Sounds like a trouble maker, what did he post about his bosses ?"
I know as much as you, assuming you read the page.
I don’t think being “a trouble maker” is a crime. My 3yo grandson is a little trouble maker but hopefully the police won’t want to arrest him.
He’s not been charged with anything so whatever the aggrieved party complained about, can’t have been illegal.
Some people seem to think being offended means a crime has been committed.
My concern is the police behaviour, once again with disregard for the law. |
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By *I TwoCouple 37 weeks ago
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"Sounds like a trouble maker, what did he post about his bosses ?
I know as much as you, assuming you read the page.
I don’t think being “a trouble maker” is a crime. My 3yo grandson is a little trouble maker but hopefully the police won’t want to arrest him.
He’s not been charged with anything so whatever the aggrieved party complained about, can’t have been illegal.
Some people seem to think being offended means a crime has been committed.
My concern is the police behaviour, once again with disregard for the law. "
As you don't know what he said it's probably better to reserve judgement ?
Conspiracy theories excepted, it's rarely the police go to the trouble of arresting people for nothing. |
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"Sounds like a trouble maker, what did he post about his bosses ?
I know as much as you, assuming you read the page.
I don’t think being “a trouble maker” is a crime. My 3yo grandson is a little trouble maker but hopefully the police won’t want to arrest him.
He’s not been charged with anything so whatever the aggrieved party complained about, can’t have been illegal.
Some people seem to think being offended means a crime has been committed.
My concern is the police behaviour, once again with disregard for the law.
As you don't know what he said it's probably better to reserve judgement ?
Conspiracy theories excepted, it's rarely the police go to the trouble of arresting people for nothing."
I’ve watched numerous videos of the police arresting people for “nothing”.
But it’s not the arrest, anyone can get things wrong, especially with built up allegations, it’s the illegal bail conditions. |
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Conspiracy theories excepted, it's rarely the police go to the trouble of arresting people for nothing.
I’ve watched numerous videos of the police arresting people for “nothing”.
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Anyone can point an iPhone at cops conducting an arrest, edit out the bit that prompted the arrest and present it without context as "evidence" of police overreach.
I'm not especially fond of the police but equally I'm no fan of shit-strirring "citizen journalists" who create fodder for anti-establishment types to feed their conviction that there's a state-sanctioned conspiracy against them. |
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"Just sounds like more shit stirring anti establishment nonsense designed to destabilise authority story."
You know, maybe that would be a good thing. When the establishment acts as bad or worse than the 'enemy' more often than not maybe it's time to get rid. |
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By (user no longer on site) 36 weeks ago
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"A brief backstory but you should read the story for yourself…
A firefighter and union official, falsely sacked, wins his case, advises union members of their rights, home raided by police and all internet-capable devices seized, arrested, cautioned and bailed with one of the bail conditions being to take away his right of freedom of expression, in that he was told he couldn’t tell anyone he had been arrested and to do so would be a criminal offence, that being breaking bail conditions.
Police told Robert Moss that his right to “freedom of expression” had to be “limited to maintain public safety and order” following his arrest on suspicion of malicious communications
His crime? For which no charges have been made…. Talking about his former bosses in a private FB group for firefighter union members.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/16/police-orwellian-powers-gag-firefighter-free-speech-row/
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Lucy Connelly...... although she admitted to incitement 
The radicalisation of the online right continues |
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By (user no longer on site) 36 weeks ago
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Well ive read the story, his comments are not repeated and are referred to as critical of his employers after a tribunal found the firefighter unfairly dismissed.
On a private FB page he supported other firefighters with employment issues and was critical of Staffordshire Fire Service.
At a bail hearing at Newcastle under Lyne Magistrates Court, the bail conditions were lifted due to the draconian approach by officers.
I wonder as I use Trustpilot to highlight companies or services not fit for purpose regarding my interactions with them.
I wonder if I will get a visit from the thought police, if I was to turn some company up the wrong way. |
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I particularly like the videos where a copper is trying to arrest someone and there's some people filming on their phones, some people trying to aid the person being arrested, and then a knife spills out of their clothing.
I'm not sure if people know this, but there has to be a legal basis for arrest. The cop has to say what that is. I don't think a hurt ego is a legal basis? |
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