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By *otMe66 OP Man 28 weeks ago
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Survivors of grooming gang abuse are leaving their roles within the inquiry, four have stepped down so far. In a joint letter they have listed a number of demands for their return, one being the resignation of Jess Phillips, who they feel has betrayed them and lost their trust. They also want the chair of the inquiry to be a judge, who they argue would be unbiased. The previous candidates an ex police officer and a social worker, have both quit.
The structure and processes of an inquiry will be bound in red tape, and I would imagine it is a complex environment to understand.
Who has got this right, the survivors who want as much free scope and transparency as they can get? Or the establishment who imposes process and governance over proceedings? Both sides are clearly at odds with one another where is the compromise and how should the inquiry be structured? |
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Sadly judges have proven that they can't be trusted to have an unbiased opinion.
As with all these type of situations there will be bickering and I fighting, it'll end up costing a bloody fortune and the guilty ones will get of on some ridiculous technicality. |
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"Sadly judges have proven that they can't be trusted to have an unbiased opinion.
As with all these type of situations there will be bickering and I fighting, it'll end up costing a bloody fortune and the guilty ones will get of on some ridiculous technicality. "
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"Sadly judges have proven that they can't be trusted to have an unbiased opinion."
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The truth is, the system as it stands isn’t built around helping survivors — especially in sexual abuse cases.
False allegations are extremely rare: the CPS and Home Office have both found the rate to be well under 1%, yet some police forces have inflated that figure internally to over 50%.
That kind of bias filters through every stage of the process. Survivors are disbelieved, retraumatised, and often drop out of cases altogether — not because they weren’t harmed, but because they can’t face being treated like suspects. Meanwhile, abusers walk free.
Following the victims’ lead here makes sense. A senior judge and genuine transparency, so long as it stays within the law, would help rebuild trust. Justice should centre survivors — not institutions protecting their reputations.
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By *otMe66 OP Man 28 weeks ago
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"Sadly judges have proven that they can't be trusted to have an unbiased opinion."
The truth is, the system as it stands isn’t built around helping survivors — especially in sexual abuse cases.
False allegations are extremely rare: the CPS and Home Office have both found the rate to be well under 1%, yet some police forces have inflated that figure internally to over 50%.
That kind of bias filters through every stage of the process. Survivors are disbelieved, retraumatised, and often drop out of cases altogether — not because they weren’t harmed, but because they can’t face being treated like suspects. Meanwhile, abusers walk free.
Following the victims’ lead here makes sense. A senior judge and genuine transparency, so long as it stays within the law, would help rebuild trust. Justice should centre survivors — not institutions protecting their reputations.
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This isn’t about delivering justice that’s already happened. The inquiry’s purpose is to understand what went "wrong". It’s aim is to understand the accountability, lessons learned, and prevent future occurrences. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"This isn’t about delivering justice that’s already happened. The inquiry’s purpose is to understand what went 'wrong'. It’s aim is to understand the accountability, lessons learned, and prevent future occurrences."
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That doesn’t take away from anything I said — it actually reinforces it.
Fixing the system that failed these survivors is justice. Ensuring future victims are believed, supported, and not retraumatised is part of preventing future harm.
Accountability and systemic reform are both forms of justice — just as much as imprisoning the perpetrators themselves. |
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