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By *ctionSandwich OP   Couple 19 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme

Just notice this Philip Young case today with charges related to his now ex wife. It sounds like multiple men involved, over a long period of 13 years. Reading it, it sounds like they were doing swinger activity. Hence this thread we guess...

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By *allySlinkyWoman 19 weeks ago

Leeds

Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging.

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By (user no longer on site) 19 weeks ago

He was a Councillor for 3 years, 15 years ago.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Reading it, it sounds like they were doing swinger activity."

No consent = not swinging.

If actually guilty of what he *seems* to be charged with, he should be locked up, and not in a special unit, and whatever happens to him, happens.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Reading it, it sounds like they were doing swinger activity.

No consent = not swinging.

If actually guilty of what he *seems* to be charged with, he should be locked up, and not in a special unit, and whatever happens to him, happens.

"

*The police/prosecution are often good at implying things in reports, by framing facts. So keeping an open mind.

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By *ctionSandwich OP   Couple 19 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme


"Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging. "


"Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging. "

Aside from the wife's testimony, how could they prove spiking without any lab evidence? To be fair, this is one woman making an allegation against her now ex husband after 13 years.

Yes we are those kind of people who question when a woman raises an allegation but it doesn't mean we condone what they're alleging.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging.

Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging.

Aside from the wife's testimony, how could they prove spiking without any lab evidence? To be fair, this is one woman making an allegation against her now ex husband after 13 years.

Yes we are those kind of people who question when a woman raises an allegation but it doesn't mean we condone what they're alleging."

There was that awful case in France last year. There haven't been any details yet - perhaps he filmed it, or others testified?

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By (user no longer on site) 19 weeks ago

Dominic pelicot from France was also jailed it drugging his wife for men to have sex with her

He was charged with mass r@pe

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By *allySlinkyWoman 19 weeks ago

Leeds

Four days ago a German man was jailed for eight and a half years for doing this

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By *allySlinkyWoman 19 weeks ago

Leeds


" There haven't been any details yet - perhaps he filmed it, or others testified?"

The court trial starts January 23rd.

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By *ctionSandwich OP   Couple 19 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme


"Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging.

Drugging your unaware wife and letting multiple men abuse her definitely isn't swinging.

Aside from the wife's testimony, how could they prove spiking without any lab evidence? To be fair, this is one woman making an allegation against her now ex husband after 13 years.

Yes we are those kind of people who question when a woman raises an allegation but it doesn't mean we condone what they're alleging.

There was that awful case in France last year. There haven't been any details yet - perhaps he filmed it, or others testified?"

You're right, it could be like that. Equally though it could be a bitter and resentful ex sticking her claws in. Because that does happen. Part of the reason we are very mindful of who couples we meet.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 19 weeks ago

Leeds


"

You're right, it could be like that. Equally though it could be a bitter and resentful ex sticking her claws in. Because that does happen. Part of the reason we are very mindful of who couples we meet."

What does your vetting process involve ?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Dominic pelicot from France was also jailed it drugging his wife for men to have sex with her

He was charged with mass r@pe "

Here's to hoping he's dealt with by inmates... And no, not sorry.

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By *ctionSandwich OP   Couple 19 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme


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What does your vetting process involve ?"

Common sense.

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By *otlovefun42Couple 19 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

At the moment the details are pretty thin so I think it best to keep an open mind.

If he did do a Pelicot and incapacitate his ex in order to have sex with multiple men, then throw the book at him and any co-conspirators.

However it could also be a case of a swinger relationship gone wrong with a vindictive ex seeking revenge. Or something completely different.

No doubt it will all come out in the trial.

Gets you thinking though, maybe he/they were on here.

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By *ydaz70Man 19 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay


"Dominic pelicot from France was also jailed it drugging his wife for men to have sex with her

He was charged with mass r@pe

Here's to hoping he's dealt with by inmates... And no, not sorry."

haha you need to stop watching movies he wouldn't be classed as a rapist pedo inside I'm afraid.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Dominic pelicot from France was also jailed it drugging his wife for men to have sex with her

He was charged with mass r@pe

Here's to hoping he's dealt with by inmates... And no, not sorry. haha you need to stop watching movies he wouldn't be classed as a rapist pedo inside I'm afraid."

It's not just pedos who get that treatment.

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By *ennineTopMan 19 weeks ago

York


"Here's to hoping he's dealt with by inmates... And no, not sorry."

So not satisfied with legal penalties for crime, you are encouraging criminal behaviour in prisons to amplify penalties?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 19 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"Here's to hoping he's dealt with by inmates... And no, not sorry.

So not satisfied with legal penalties for crime, you are encouraging criminal behaviour in prisons to amplify penalties?

"

Not sure there's any encouragement..

Just a recognition that for some crimes and whether we like it or not and of course violence isn't justified not is it justice but those who frequent His Majesties Pleasure have a way of dealing with such people..

That's not saying they are right..

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Here's to hoping he's dealt with by inmates... And no, not sorry.

So not satisfied with legal penalties for crime, you are encouraging criminal behaviour in prisons to amplify penalties?

"

Absolutely no encouragement.

Just hope.

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By *ennineTopMan 19 weeks ago

York


"Absolutely no encouragement.

Just hope."

If I express hope on a forum that something will occur then I'm giving encouragment to others to actualize that hope.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 19 weeks ago

Border of London


"Absolutely no encouragement.

Just hope.

If I express hope on a forum that something will occur then I'm giving encouragment to others to actualize that hope."

Fair enough! That is probably true.

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By *ellinever70Woman 19 weeks ago

Ayrshire


"Dominic pelicot from France was also jailed it drugging his wife for men to have sex with her

He was charged with mass r@pe "

And still, some men don't do enough to make sure a woman is fully aware and onboard with what some man is claiming she wants

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By *CExeCouple 19 weeks ago

Hong-Kong/Exeter

There is video evidence of what happened. The investigating force have released video stills of a man they're still trying to identify in connection with the ongoing investigation. I suspect the video footage is quite compelling, hence CPS authorising the charges.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 19 weeks ago

Leeds


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And still, some men don't do enough to make sure a woman is fully aware and onboard with what some man is claiming she wants "

Or claiming it is "a case of a swinger relationship gone wrong with a vindictive ex seeking revenge"

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By *ellinever70Woman 19 weeks ago

Ayrshire


"

And still, some men don't do enough to make sure a woman is fully aware and onboard with what some man is claiming she wants

Or claiming it is "a case of a swinger relationship gone wrong with a vindictive ex seeking revenge""

Because anything else is just far too uncomfortable to consider

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 19 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"

And still, some men don't do enough to make sure a woman is fully aware and onboard with what some man is claiming she wants

Or claiming it is "a case of a swinger relationship gone wrong with a vindictive ex seeking revenge""

A possible explanation if it one to one, his word against hers etc ..

But given the amount of charges by the CPS and the numbers of 'men' (beasts more like) it's a really poor attitude to come out with that..

Common knowledge that the charging rates for some vile acts in general are low as is the conviction rate so the sheer number is a huge indicator that the evidence is compelling..

Five are on bail too..

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By *esparate danMan 19 weeks ago

glasgow


"Just notice this Philip Young case today with charges related to his now ex wife. It sounds like multiple men involved, over a long period of 13 years. Reading it, it sounds like they were doing swinger activity. Hence this thread we guess..."

There is an inherent risk here isnt there. It is predominantly men who recruit their partner into swinging and there are plenty of tales on here where people have come away from experiences with couples where the woman (the bait) is either too intoxicated or just didnt seem comfortable

Even with consent it is not a stretch to consider that it is more likely to be a woman who feels (or actually gets) violated in a swinging exchange

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By *otlovefun42Couple 19 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"

And still, some men don't do enough to make sure a woman is fully aware and onboard with what some man is claiming she wants

Or claiming it is "a case of a swinger relationship gone wrong with a vindictive ex seeking revenge""

I "claimed" nothing of the sort.

I merely pointed out the possibility alongside the the other possibility that it could be similar to Pelicot in France or anywhere in-between.

We know very little detail but some on here are trying to be judge jury and executioner all rolled into one.

We will only know after the trial.

Innocent until proven guilty anyone?

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