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"Why did you decide to watch the interview?" It was on after MOTD and I got drawn in, its off now | |||
"I normally avoid politics at all costs But I am watching this Starmer interview with Kuinsberg on BBC. He is deluded" He did not come over well & LK did not really push him perhaps sensing how weak his position is. | |||
"I normally avoid politics at all costs But I am watching this Starmer interview with Kuinsberg on BBC. He is deluded He did not come over well & LK did not really push him perhaps sensing how weak his position is. " I agree, she uncharacteristically let him talk over her and smiled with a light retreat. Saying wage increases are at their highest, whilst technically might be true, is crazy as they have had to be to pay for the extreme rise int he cost of living. | |||
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"And when they do eventually get around to building any social housing the funding is only available if they build and house the illegal invaders, sorry I meant benefit sucking Illegals" | |||
"And when they do eventually get around to building any social housing the funding is only available if they build and house the illegal invaders, sorry I meant benefit sucking Illegals" Far outnumbered by the home grown benefits suckers but hey .... | |||
"And when they do eventually get around to building any social housing the funding is only available if they build and house the illegal invaders, sorry I meant benefit sucking Illegals Far outnumbered by the home grown benefits suckers but hey ...." Agree totally. One of my kids has been on benefits for years. Part of the problem now is if he goes to work for minimum wage he loses money. And whilst I don’t agree with this situation, I can look back at the tens of thousands of pounds I’ve paid in tax over the years and think “well my family have paid in to the pot already. What winds people up so much is people can enter the country illegally, get a free ride until their fake claim is approved, then get benefits and be at the top of the housing list because seeking asylum and living in a hotel gets them more points than a British family with 3 kids including a disabled one, living in a hostel. | |||
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"18 months today since Labour took office Highest small boat crossings since 2022 More businesses closing than opening UK lowest investment in G7 Four ministers resigned/sacked for wrong doing 1.3 million unbuilt new homes Increased homelessness, business closures, and poverty under this government More U turns than starsky and hutch " Yes yes yes, but they are not the Tories so it's all fine. When the previous bunch were in office the general feeling was anyone would be better and with good reason. However Starmer had other ideas. | |||
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"Forecast 2nd highest growth in G7 in 2025. FTSE 100 at all time high.Up 20% whilst the DOW only managed 5%. Six interest rate cuts since Tories left office. Major infrastructure expansion a Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton Airports, Lower Thames Crossing, Universal Theme Park. Tackling child poverty, low wages, rogue employers and landlords. Decent US trade deal closer ties with Europe. c.45 million tourists visited the UK in 2025 spending billions. Energy bills falling year on year. State Pension up, minmum wage up. Bank lending up. My town is booming. New shops, cafés, restaurants and pubs opening. When the Ukraine war ends Europe including the UK will receive an economic boost. Difficult for Tories/Reformers but the economic indicators are more positive than they have been since 2008. " We all need to move to your town It’s not looking up here or anywhere I know Shops and businesses are closing. More charity shops, coffee shops and ice cream parlours and the rest empty | |||
"Forecast 2nd highest growth in G7 in 2025. FTSE 100 at all time high.Up 20% whilst the DOW only managed 5%. Six interest rate cuts since Tories left office. Major infrastructure expansion a Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton Airports, Lower Thames Crossing, Universal Theme Park. Tackling child poverty, low wages, rogue employers and landlords. Decent US trade deal closer ties with Europe. c.45 million tourists visited the UK in 2025 spending billions. Energy bills falling year on year. State Pension up, minmum wage up. Bank lending up. My town is booming. New shops, cafés, restaurants and pubs opening. When the Ukraine war ends Europe including the UK will receive an economic boost. Difficult for Tories/Reformers but the economic indicators are more positive than they have been since 2008." If all that is true, why is Starmer doing so badly in the opinion polls? | |||
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"Forecast 2nd highest growth in G7 in 2025. FTSE 100 at all time high.Up 20% whilst the DOW only managed 5%. Six interest rate cuts since Tories left office. Major infrastructure expansion a Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton Airports, Lower Thames Crossing, Universal Theme Park. Tackling child poverty, low wages, rogue employers and landlords. Decent US trade deal closer ties with Europe. c.45 million tourists visited the UK in 2025 spending billions. Energy bills falling year on year. State Pension up, minmum wage up. Bank lending up. My town is booming. New shops, cafés, restaurants and pubs opening. When the Ukraine war ends Europe including the UK will receive an economic boost. Difficult for Tories/Reformers but the economic indicators are more positive than they have been since 2008. " Now listen Kier. You are not supposed to be on a swinger site. | |||
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" The City of London has its mojo back. Bank lending is booming. Easier mortgage lending criteria will produce a rates war and get the housing market moving again." This is certainly true. 1.2 million housing transactions in 2025, 390,000 of them first time buyers (340k 2024) With average house prices at nearly nine times income, lenders need to be innovative. A trade paper reads that the number of loans taken on 35 year term has trebled since 2020. Falling interest rates and credit tap opening will drive activity with debt driven growth and prices. What happens later with only 1 in 6 people eligible to pay into open final salary pension schemes, an ageing population, and 10% year on year growth in equity release mortgages. I’m not sure about the wider economy, shop closures, charity shops and barbers seem to be booming. | |||
"Starmer has a deal that was given to him by Trump and he has been responsible for giving away billions in benefits and more again in u-turns. Market speculation and other events outside the governments control does add a glimmer of hope for those not paying attention. " USA debt has increased to $38.5trn at December 2025. Over the past year, the rate of increase averaged $6.12 billion a day. | |||
"Forecast 2nd highest growth in G7 in 2025." US growth under a right wing government, 4.5%. European growth under socialism….. well you said ours was the 2nd highest at 0.1% so the rest of the communists must be worse that Starmer, which isn’t saying much. "FTSE 100 at all time high.Up 20% whilst the DOW only managed 5%." 75% of the companies traded on the London stock exchange are overseas companies. And the stock market always rises over the longer period because its capitalism in its true form. "Six interest rate cuts since Tories left office." they have had to cut interest rates to try and stimulate grown and investment but there’s still no growth and no investment. Rates will continue to fall because the economy will go into recession if they don’t. "Major infrastructure expansion a Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton Airports, Lower Thames Crossing, Universal Theme Park." let me get this right, the airport expansions that have been being planed for decades were started by Starmer? Before he was even in politics. Wow, that is some achievement. One that goes against their pointless net zero targets as well. So tax electric vehicle use while expanding the biggest global populating industry? "Tackling child poverty, low wages, rogue employers and landlords." Increasing benefits spending does not tackle child poverty, despite what the headlines in the guardian might say. Families in benefits are only in poverty if the parents spend their money on new iPhones every year, 84” flatscreens, nails, hair, wine, beer, drugs, holidays etc. Labour MPs are the worst rogue landlords. Their policies are actually making landlords sell up, thus reducing stocks and increasing rents. Labour are also removing houses from the market by paying over the odds with 5 year contracts so they can give them to foreign terrorists and kiddy fiddlers. There will always be rouge employers but I’d like to see some actual proof of your claims. Wages should be at the will of market forces. Companies can’t reward good staff because they have to reward everyone. This is also what employment has been falling month on month since labour got in, and unemployment has been rising month on month. Increasing the benefits bill. "closer ties with Europe." yep, despite the people voting against ties with Europe. But since when did Starmer listed to the people. 90% against digital id but he’s gonna plough on anyway because he mate Blair is gonna give him a brown envelope from the billions his gonna make from it. If this was the tories and an old Eton school pal they would be calling for resignations. But it’s ok cos they are all champagne socialists " c.45 million tourists visited the UK in 2025 spending billions." are you actually trying to claim Starmer invented tourism and nobody ever came here before they got in? The bit you missed of course is most of them are probably going to claim asylum " Energy bills falling year on year. " blatant lie "State Pension up, minmum wage up. Bank lending up. " increasing government spending and paying for it with tax increases isn’t actually a good thing. That’s why the cost of gov debt has increased drastically since Starmer got in. We can’t afford the debt we have yet they want the interest on it to rise. "My town is booming. New shops, cafés, restaurants and pubs opening." Nationally more businesses have closed than new ones started. Businesses of all types. "When the Ukraine war ends Europe including the UK will receive an economic boost." yes it will but that will have nothing to do with Starmer or he would have ended the war already. "Difficult for Tories/Reformers but the economic indicators are more positive than they have been since 2008. " again, not entirely true. You could pick a couple of stats that make things look ok but in the whole, nearly all stats since they took office are worse. Was interesting that you choose the date of a global financial meltdown and global recession to use as your base figure. Why not choose the date Starmer came to power as the baseline for how well he and his cronies are doing? And not include 16 years where he had no influence | |||
" Labour MPs are the worst rogue landlords. Their policies are actually making landlords sell up, thus reducing stocks and increasing rents. Labour are also removing houses from the market by paying over the odds with 5 year contracts so they can give them to foreign terrorists and kiddy fiddlers. " Ahead of the renter reform act on 1st May, it’s reported that section 21 evictions (late 2025) are now the single largest cause of homelessness. With one in nine (11%) homes listed for sale in the UK previously been rented out. Guardian today; 200,000 properties were removed from the rental market in the 12 months to the end of March 2024 1.3 million on local authority housing waiting lists, another 106,000 in asylum hotels and other dispersal (serco/mears/clearsprings) More social housing lost in 2025 than built. 1.5 million pledged new homes to include 300k new social housing will not be built this Parliament. | |||
"Forecast 2nd highest growth in G7 in 2025. US growth under a right wing government, 4.5%. European growth under socialism….. well you said ours was the 2nd highest at 0.1% so the rest of the communists must be worse that Starmer, which isn’t saying much. FTSE 100 at all time high.Up 20% whilst the DOW only managed 5%. 75% of the companies traded on the London stock exchange are overseas companies. And the stock market always rises over the longer period because its capitalism in its true form. Six interest rate cuts since Tories left office. they have had to cut interest rates to try and stimulate grown and investment but there’s still no growth and no investment. Rates will continue to fall because the economy will go into recession if they don’t. Major infrastructure expansion a Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton Airports, Lower Thames Crossing, Universal Theme Park. let me get this right, the airport expansions that have been being planed for decades were started by Starmer? Before he was even in politics. Wow, that is some achievement. One that goes against their pointless net zero targets as well. So tax electric vehicle use while expanding the biggest global populating industry? Tackling child poverty, low wages, rogue employers and landlords. Increasing benefits spending does not tackle child poverty, despite what the headlines in the guardian might say. Families in benefits are only in poverty if the parents spend their money on new iPhones every year, 84” flatscreens, nails, hair, wine, beer, drugs, holidays etc. Labour MPs are the worst rogue landlords. Their policies are actually making landlords sell up, thus reducing stocks and increasing rents. Labour are also removing houses from the market by paying over the odds with 5 year contracts so they can give them to foreign terrorists and kiddy fiddlers. There will always be rouge employers but I’d like to see some actual proof of your claims. Wages should be at the will of market forces. Companies can’t reward good staff because they have to reward everyone. This is also what employment has been falling month on month since labour got in, and unemployment has been rising month on month. Increasing the benefits bill. closer ties with Europe. yep, despite the people voting against ties with Europe. But since when did Starmer listed to the people. 90% against digital id but he’s gonna plough on anyway because he mate Blair is gonna give him a brown envelope from the billions his gonna make from it. If this was the tories and an old Eton school pal they would be calling for resignations. But it’s ok cos they are all champagne socialists c.45 million tourists visited the UK in 2025 spending billions. are you actually trying to claim Starmer invented tourism and nobody ever came here before they got in? The bit you missed of course is most of them are probably going to claim asylum Energy bills falling year on year. blatant lie State Pension up, minmum wage up. Bank lending up. increasing government spending and paying for it with tax increases isn’t actually a good thing. That’s why the cost of gov debt has increased drastically since Starmer got in. We can’t afford the debt we have yet they want the interest on it to rise. My town is booming. New shops, cafés, restaurants and pubs opening. Nationally more businesses have closed than new ones started. Businesses of all types. When the Ukraine war ends Europe including the UK will receive an economic boost. yes it will but that will have nothing to do with Starmer or he would have ended the war already. Difficult for Tories/Reformers but the economic indicators are more positive than they have been since 2008. again, not entirely true. You could pick a couple of stats that make things look ok but in the whole, nearly all stats since they took office are worse. Was interesting that you choose the date of a global financial meltdown and global recession to use as your base figure. Why not choose the date Starmer came to power as the baseline for how well he and his cronies are doing? And not include 16 years where he had no influence " I am positive about the UK's future for all the reasons I gave. Clearly you are not. You told us one of your children has been on benefits for years. My three children are all earning six figure salaries, and have never claimed benefits ever. Perhaps positivity helps in making the world a better place? | |||
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"he likes like something from temu" Except we can't send him back.🤣 | |||
"Starmer has a deal that was given to him by Trump and he has been responsible for giving away billions in benefits and more again in u-turns. Market speculation and other events outside the governments control does add a glimmer of hope for those not paying attention. " Actually the trump administration have stalled the talks on that deal because they have reneged on some of the basic elements and are trying to get them added The major stumbling blocks being they want the uk to remove the food safety regulations to let in more of their products…. And he wants American companies involved in Uk healthcare and the NHS, both which the Uk have always called red lines | |||
"And when they do eventually get around to building any social housing the funding is only available if they build and house the illegal invaders, sorry I meant benefit sucking Illegals Far outnumbered by the home grown benefits suckers but hey ...." _________________________________________________ | |||
"And when they do eventually get around to building any social housing the funding is only available if they build and house the illegal invaders, sorry I meant benefit sucking Illegals Far outnumbered by the home grown benefits suckers but hey .... _________________________________________________ Immigrants are not a small minority of social housing occupants. In London a majority of social housing goes to those not born in UK. In some communities up to 80% live in Social Housing. | |||
"Forecast 2nd highest growth in G7 in 2025. US growth under a right wing government, 4.5%. European growth under socialism….. well you said ours was the 2nd highest at 0.1% so the rest of the communists must be worse that Starmer, which isn’t saying much. FTSE 100 at all time high.Up 20% whilst the DOW only managed 5%. 75% of the companies traded on the London stock exchange are overseas companies. And the stock market always rises over the longer period because its capitalism in its true form. Six interest rate cuts since Tories left office. they have had to cut interest rates to try and stimulate grown and investment but there’s still no growth and no investment. Rates will continue to fall because the economy will go into recession if they don’t. Major infrastructure expansion a Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton Airports, Lower Thames Crossing, Universal Theme Park. let me get this right, the airport expansions that have been being planed for decades were started by Starmer? Before he was even in politics. Wow, that is some achievement. One that goes against their pointless net zero targets as well. So tax electric vehicle use while expanding the biggest global populating industry? Tackling child poverty, low wages, rogue employers and landlords. Increasing benefits spending does not tackle child poverty, despite what the headlines in the guardian might say. Families in benefits are only in poverty if the parents spend their money on new iPhones every year, 84” flatscreens, nails, hair, wine, beer, drugs, holidays etc. Labour MPs are the worst rogue landlords. Their policies are actually making landlords sell up, thus reducing stocks and increasing rents. Labour are also removing houses from the market by paying over the odds with 5 year contracts so they can give them to foreign terrorists and kiddy fiddlers. There will always be rouge employers but I’d like to see some actual proof of your claims. Wages should be at the will of market forces. Companies can’t reward good staff because they have to reward everyone. This is also what employment has been falling month on month since labour got in, and unemployment has been rising month on month. Increasing the benefits bill. closer ties with Europe. yep, despite the people voting against ties with Europe. But since when did Starmer listed to the people. 90% against digital id but he’s gonna plough on anyway because he mate Blair is gonna give him a brown envelope from the billions his gonna make from it. If this was the tories and an old Eton school pal they would be calling for resignations. But it’s ok cos they are all champagne socialists c.45 million tourists visited the UK in 2025 spending billions. are you actually trying to claim Starmer invented tourism and nobody ever came here before they got in? The bit you missed of course is most of them are probably going to claim asylum Energy bills falling year on year. blatant lie State Pension up, minmum wage up. Bank lending up. increasing government spending and paying for it with tax increases isn’t actually a good thing. That’s why the cost of gov debt has increased drastically since Starmer got in. We can’t afford the debt we have yet they want the interest on it to rise. My town is booming. New shops, cafés, restaurants and pubs opening. Nationally more businesses have closed than new ones started. Businesses of all types. When the Ukraine war ends Europe including the UK will receive an economic boost. yes it will but that will have nothing to do with Starmer or he would have ended the war already. Difficult for Tories/Reformers but the economic indicators are more positive than they have been since 2008. again, not entirely true. You could pick a couple of stats that make things look ok but in the whole, nearly all stats since they took office are worse. Was interesting that you choose the date of a global financial meltdown and global recession to use as your base figure. Why not choose the date Starmer came to power as the baseline for how well he and his cronies are doing? And not include 16 years where he had no influence I am positive about the UK's future for all the reasons I gave. Clearly you are not. You told us one of your children has been on benefits for years. My three children are all earning six figure salaries, and have never claimed benefits ever. Perhaps positivity helps in making the world a better place?" It absolutely does! The way light manifests into particles is directly affected by emotions and possibly thoughts. And you can certainly affect your personal world experience with positive emotions. But if you think your thoughts can affect other people’s actions I’d like a demonstration please. I’ll say I’m going to prick your finger with a needle and you be as positive as you like to think I won’t. Let’s see how that works out. You have to remember that everyone is contributing to what we perceive to be reality. Labour MPs want to destroy the country and they have the power to do so. They blocked the benefits reforms because they want to country to go bankrupt in the future. Ot at the very least they don’t care about fiscal stability. Starmer is going to bring out digital id despite polls saying over 90% of the population being against it. That is totalitarian dictatorship at its finest. He doesn’t care what the people want. And you think that’s positive? Next you’ll be advocating for armed police shooting people on sight for disagreeing with Starmer. | |||
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"Starmer has done a great job.....of finishing the two party political model and uniting the left and the right in their hatred of him. Thatcher owes him a debt of gratitude as Labour are now the new Nasty Party. Waspi women, pensioners, Veterans, farmers, Sen kids.....this grade A walloper has shafted everyone he can. Of course, changes to pension taxation won't affect him as he has a personal, bespoke law just for him to protect his financial arrangements. The guy is an absolute scumbag and I can't wait for the day when he's ousted from office, albeit to be replaced by bodybags Burnham or 'push her in front of a train' Streeting." Grade A walloper 🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"He is a puppet pm. His backbenchers rule." I agree. But isn’t that the way parliament was intended to be. MPs coming together and agreeing what should be done? Rather than a government using the whip to keep its MPs in line? Unfortunately most Labour MPs couldn’t run a piss up at a free bar. | |||
"And when they do eventually get around to building any social housing the funding is only available if they build and house the illegal invaders, sorry I meant benefit sucking Illegals Far outnumbered by the home grown benefits suckers but hey .... _________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------- The poster I responded referred to 'illegal' immigrants, not people 'not born in the UK', a reference that tells us very little about them or the contributions they make to society. Living in social housing is not unusual in immigrant or native communities, a significant number are in low paid jobs but doing work which is nonetheless very valuable. | |||