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By *hagTonight OP Man 8 weeks ago
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Did you also hear ursula von der layens speech on monday talking about how eu wants a new world order?
In the speech she mentioned things like how "europe can no longer be a custodian for the old world order and how the traditional world order is rapidly crumbling under mounting violations of international law" she concluded the speech with saying that eu must adapt to the changes.
What is our view of it and her speech, do you also think that it is a good idea to have a new world order and do we need a new one?
I think that we do need a new world order, especially with all the things that is happening in the world and with trump as well, so it is good to change and adapt as she puts it too  |
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The EU politicians talk a lot. And then they go on to pass regulations which screw up the EU members in every possible way. At this point, no big powers around the world seem to give a fuck about the EU anyway. |
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"The EU politicians talk a lot. And then they go on to pass regulations which screw up the EU members in every possible way. At this point, no big powers around the world seem to give a fuck about the EU anyway."
To be fair, the EU has made a positive contribution to the world concerning privacy, technology (USB C?), financial regulation and travel - among others. They operate as a trading bloc and have many good qualities. Do they also get regulation wrong (overregulation and stupid stuff)? Yes. Do they suffer from terrible mission-creep? Yes! Are they bloated and incompetent and corrupt? Yes. But they're not all bad. |
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"The EU politicians talk a lot. And then they go on to pass regulations which screw up the EU members in every possible way. At this point, no big powers around the world seem to give a fuck about the EU anyway.
To be fair, the EU has made a positive contribution to the world concerning privacy, technology (USB C?), financial regulation and travel - among others. They operate as a trading bloc and have many good qualities. Do they also get regulation wrong (overregulation and stupid stuff)? Yes. Do they suffer from terrible mission-creep? Yes! Are they bloated and incompetent and corrupt? Yes. But they're not all bad."
I work in tech, specifically helping companies comply with tech regulations. EU's privacy regulations are only about 25% good. The rest are just high cost requirements providing nothing of value to the users which is the primary reason why Europe fell behind on tech. That cookie consent pop-up you see whenever you visit a new website? They don't even work in over 95% of the websites and over 90% of the people don't even understand what they are.
These regulations, which are clearly written by bureaucrats who don't understand technology well enough play the biggest part in why Europe fell behind in the tech boom.
Oh yeah, they have already passed the "AI act" even before the industry has understood how it's going to evolve, thereby ensuring that the EU will lose out in AI driven growth too.
The USB regulation is also short termist. It sounds good for now, until a day someone finds a better technology to replace it and the EU will fall behind. |
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These regulations, which are clearly written by bureaucrats who don't understand technology well enough play the biggest part in why Europe fell behind in the tech boom."
Fully agree with this, and partially agree with other points. The solution is to improve the system, not obliterate it. US tech hegemony would see global consumer rights look like the US - pretty pathetic. The EU provides a counterbalance.
Having worked with EMIR, GDPR, MiFID and others - yes, there is overlap, over-reporting and an anti-business theme. The only point is that it's not all bad, it just needs to be leaner and better.
On the topic of cookies... Users are now trained to click the first (and often subsequent) popup that appears - which could contain basically anything. That's an own goal. |
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These regulations, which are clearly written by bureaucrats who don't understand technology well enough play the biggest part in why Europe fell behind in the tech boom.
Fully agree with this, and partially agree with other points. The solution is to improve the system, not obliterate it. US tech hegemony would see global consumer rights look like the US - pretty pathetic. The EU provides a counterbalance.
Having worked with EMIR, GDPR, MiFID and others - yes, there is overlap, over-reporting and an anti-business theme. The only point is that it's not all bad, it just needs to be leaner and better.
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TBF some US states like California have got their privacy regulations spot on, probably because they are a tech hub and they have interest in achieving the right balance.
The problem with US is fragmentation of regulations. Each state invents it's own. Republican states write regulations primarily to give parents the control over their children's data while Democrat states tend to focus on more freedom of access, privacy, etc.
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On the topic of cookies... Users are now trained to click the first (and often subsequent) popup that appears - which could contain basically anything. That's an own goal.
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By *ermbiMan 8 weeks ago
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"The EU politicians talk a lot. And then they go on to pass regulations which screw up the EU members in every possible way. At this point, no big powers around the world seem to give a fuck about the EU anyway."
If nobody gives a damn about the EU then how have they closed some huge trade deals recently? |
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"The EU politicians talk a lot. And then they go on to pass regulations which screw up the EU members in every possible way. At this point, no big powers around the world seem to give a fuck about the EU anyway.
If nobody gives a damn about the EU then how have they closed some huge trade deals recently?"
Pretty much every country does trade deals. I meant that the EU is neither seen as strong geopolitical force nor as a strong economic force. |
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