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The late Ayatollah Khomeni. He would appeal to a key section of Labour voters, would stand up to Trump, and being dead would cost the taxpayer a lot less in expenses. |
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Equivalent ability with statesmanship, which he's been good at globally. And deploy this more wisely internally.
Andy Burnham would be an ideal person but can't currently. I hope Angela Rayner eventually becomes their 1st woman leader and PM. |
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"Equivalent ability with statesmanship, which he's been good at globally. And deploy this more wisely internally.
Andy Burnham would be an ideal person but can't currently. I hope Angela Rayner eventually becomes their 1st woman leader and PM. "
Labour have had a female leader - they’ve just not elected one yet! Harriet Harman and Margaret Beckett both led the party |
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We try to judge folk by what they do and who they surround themselves with. Also take past behaviour into account.
Starmer is an establishment puppet and most folk in his party are out for themselves.
Kemi is beginning to say the right things. However the party she leads is now so toxic from its past damaging behaviour (Boriswave) she's a non starter. It's sad because what she says seems to be the sensible centre option, but her party is just that poisonous now. Even Starmer is saying it's Labour or Reform.
Farage has chosen to surround himself with people from that same toxic party. Reform are literally the same old fake Conservatives in aa skin suit.
The Lib Dems are aa joke, don't even know who their leader is. Don't care either.
Zack is the leader of a party that will carry on the green energy scam and pander even harder to the hard left and Islamists than Labour do.
Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest. |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
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Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style |
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"Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest."
"Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style "
That sounds quite upfront and honest to me. Surprisingly so. |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style "
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement. |
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"Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style "
Can't find that easily on the internet and you've not even said what people would be reporting? Can only assume you're making it up. |
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"Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
Can't find that easily on the internet and you've not even said what people would be reporting? Can only assume you're making it up."
It’s in Rupert Lowe’s Policy paper entitled: Mass Deportations: Legitimacy, Legality, and Logistics
I can only assume you didn’t look hard as it’s incredibly easy to find. |
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"I hope Angela Rayner eventually becomes their 1st woman leader and PM. "
When are we going to accept that politicians who have to resign because of their judgment are telling us something very clearly about their character?
Senior politicians should be one and done. |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement."
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
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And ? |
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"“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”"
Crimestoppers is mostly funded by government, and currently pays out up to £1,000 for tip-offs that lead to a prosecution. Does that mean that current and previous governments are twice as stazi-like as Rupert Lowe? |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ? "
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
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People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State. |
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"“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
Crimestoppers is mostly funded by government, and currently pays out up to £1,000 for tip-offs that lead to a prosecution. Does that mean that current and previous governments are twice as stazi-like as Rupert Lowe?"
Sure, why not?
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State."
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism. |
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism. "
Against criminals absolutely. |
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely. "
Good for you Enjoy your £500 |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500"
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾 |
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾"
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap |
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap "
I've thought of that, my mates and I will report one border dodger each and go to Las Vegas on the proceeds.😊 |
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap
I've thought of that, my mates and I will report one border dodger each and go to Las Vegas on the proceeds.😊"
One question though, before you cash in. How are you going to confirm that you’re reporting illegal immigrants and not legal citizens? |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap
I've thought of that, my mates and I will report one border dodger each and go to Las Vegas on the proceeds.😊
One question though, before you cash in. How are you going to confirm that you’re reporting illegal immigrants and not legal citizens?"
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"We try to judge folk by what they do and who they surround themselves with. Also take past behaviour into account.
Starmer is an establishment puppet and most folk in his party are out for themselves.
Kemi is beginning to say the right things. However the party she leads is now so toxic from its past damaging behaviour (Boriswave) she's a non starter. It's sad because what she says seems to be the sensible centre option, but her party is just that poisonous now. Even Starmer is saying it's Labour or Reform.
Farage has chosen to surround himself with people from that same toxic party. Reform are literally the same old fake Conservatives in aa skin suit.
The Lib Dems are aa joke, don't even know who their leader is. Don't care either.
Zack is the leader of a party that will carry on the green energy scam and pander even harder to the hard left and Islamists than Labour do.
Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest."
I'm doubting your judgement
'Kemi is beginning to say the right things'
. She and Farage would have had us fully in the illegal Iranian attack.leader is.
And
leader is. Don't care either.
'Zack is the leader of a party that will carry on the green energy scam ...'
Are you a global heating denier? If we'd been more energy self-sufficient, the current Iran war would affect our economy less. |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap
I've thought of that, my mates and I will report one border dodger each and go to Las Vegas on the proceeds.😊
One question though, before you cash in. How are you going to confirm that you’re reporting illegal immigrants and not legal citizens?
IYKYK"
Ah, I see. You’d look at their skin colour, accent etc and make an assumption.
You could have just said that, my man.
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap
I've thought of that, my mates and I will report one border dodger each and go to Las Vegas on the proceeds.😊
One question though, before you cash in. How are you going to confirm that you’re reporting illegal immigrants and not legal citizens?
IYKYK
Ah, I see. You’d look at their skin colour, accent etc and make an assumption.
You could have just said that, my man.
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For £500 it's got to be worth a punt ! |
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Rupert Lowe in contrast at least seems upfront and honest that what needs to be done is going to be hard and not easy. We cannot carry on as we are as a country to be honest.
Rupert is offering £500 for people to grass up their neighbour. Stasi-style
There have been rewards for reporting crime for decades. The Stasi had nothing to do with crime enforcement.
The Stasi relied on civilian informants.
Let’s take a look at a line from Rupert’s policy document eh?
“The public are also an underutilised consideration…A process should be put in place with
immigration enforcement, whereby individuals who give successful tip-offs will
receive proceeds from the fines issued to businesses”
And ?
There is whole gulf of difference between citizens incidentally reporting criminal behaviour to the authorities, and encouraging citizens to become (paid and enticed) informants on their neighbours.
That's straight out of the authoritarian playbook, where the State is so afraid of its citizens, it recruits them to become extended eyes and ears.
Is that really the world you wish to live in TT? Anyone else ? Why ?
People living in the UK illegally are not citizens of that State.
It’s ok dude, you’re comfortable with authoritarianism.
Against criminals absolutely.
Good for you Enjoy your £500
Fuck that, I'll find a whole HMO of illegals and make about £6000 🍾
Ah it’s £500 annually, Rupert isn’t an idiot. You can do your grassing on the cheap
I've thought of that, my mates and I will report one border dodger each and go to Las Vegas on the proceeds.😊
One question though, before you cash in. How are you going to confirm that you’re reporting illegal immigrants and not legal citizens?
IYKYK
Ah, I see. You’d look at their skin colour, accent etc and make an assumption.
You could have just said that, my man.
For £500 it's got to be worth a punt !"
£500 and a little badge with a picture of a boot being licked. |
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She is so under the control of the unions that they would call the shots. Back to mass walkouts, work to rule and flying pickets - the best of 1970s industrial action. She is also as thick as a brick so don't expect any inciteful leadership ideas. |
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"She is so under the control of the unions that they would call the shots. Back to mass walkouts, work to rule and flying pickets - the best of 1970s industrial action. She is also as thick as a brick so don't expect any inciteful leadership ideas. "
Remember the last heavy batch of strikes? They happens under the Tories. And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK |
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"She is so under the control of the unions that they would call the shots. Back to mass walkouts, work to rule and flying pickets - the best of 1970s industrial action. She is also as thick as a brick so don't expect any inciteful leadership ideas.
Remember the last heavy batch of strikes? They happens under the Tories. And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK "
Only You would say that. |
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"She is so under the control of the unions that they would call the shots. Back to mass walkouts, work to rule and flying pickets - the best of 1970s industrial action. She is also as thick as a brick so don't expect any inciteful leadership ideas.
Remember the last heavy batch of strikes? They happens under the Tories. And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK
Only You would say that."
Only you wouldn't know that  |
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"Rupert lowe and restore britain gets my vote when the time comes"
I think 50% of right wingers should vote restore and 50% reform, just to really send a message |
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK
They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law.
By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like. "
My prediction is Tice and Farage would pass a bill sending children up chimneys before the Flying Pickets got to number 1 in the charts.. |
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK"
"They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law."
"By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like."
Your statement above was made in the context of someone suggesting that if Angela Rayner were made leader we'd see flying pockets back again. It's not far fetched to think that Rayner might change the law to benefit trade unions. |
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK
They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law.
By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like.
Your statement above was made in the context of someone suggesting that if Angela Rayner were made leader we'd see flying pockets back again. It's not far fetched to think that Rayner might change the law to benefit trade unions."
It’s incredibly far fetched to suggest what would constitute an enormous change to picketing rules. |
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK"
"They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law."
"By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like."
"Your statement above was made in the context of someone suggesting that if Angela Rayner were made leader we'd see flying pockets back again. It's not far fetched to think that Rayner might change the law to benefit trade unions."
"It’s incredibly far fetched to suggest what would constitute an enormous change to picketing rules. "
Clearly you and I have very different opinions on what sort of person Angela Rayner is, and what her motivations are.
My view is that Rayner is of the belief that businesses are cruelly exploiting the workers and that there needs to be a rebalancing. She's also clearly very close to the trade unions.
What's your opinion of her, and why do you believe that she wouldn't change the law on flying pickets? |
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK
They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law.
By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like.
Your statement above was made in the context of someone suggesting that if Angela Rayner were made leader we'd see flying pockets back again. It's not far fetched to think that Rayner might change the law to benefit trade unions.
It’s incredibly far fetched to suggest what would constitute an enormous change to picketing rules.
Clearly you and I have very different opinions on what sort of person Angela Rayner is, and what her motivations are.
My view is that Rayner is of the belief that businesses are cruelly exploiting the workers and that there needs to be a rebalancing. She's also clearly very close to the trade unions.
What's your opinion of her, and why do you believe that she wouldn't change the law on flying pickets?"
I believe she wouldn’t because pickets are not the tool they once were for unions, when social media does a ga better job. It’s also small fry in the grand scheme of things, and finally, this government isn’t particularly left leaning. It’s a very centrist mob who haven’t thus far particularly aided, assisted or even hinted at being massive trade union supporters.
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"My view is that Rayner is of the belief that businesses are cruelly exploiting the workers and that there needs to be a rebalancing. She's also clearly very close to the trade unions.
What's your opinion of her, and why do you believe that she wouldn't change the law on flying pickets?"
"I believe she wouldn’t because pickets are not the tool they once were for unions, when social media does a ga better job. It’s also small fry in the grand scheme of things ..."
All of the things you say are true. However just because you and I agree on that doesn't mean that Angela Rayner will have the same opinion.
There are plenty in the unions that believe that everything done by Thatcher must be undone, and also believe that flying pickets were effective in the past and would be just as effective today. Those people will have the ear of Rayner if she becomes PM.
"... and finally, this government isn’t particularly left leaning. It’s a very centrist mob who haven’t thus far particularly aided, assisted or even hinted at being massive trade union supporters."
But if Rayner become PM, it wouldn't be 'this government', it would be a different one with different ministers, and a very different direction.
Rayner's made no secret of the fact that she hates rich people and fat cat directors, and I would expect her to waste no time in pushing policies that she thinks will redress the balance of power. If the unions tell her that changing the law on flying pickets will enhance their ability to protect workers from exploitative bosses, I'd expect Rayner to believe them and push for change. |
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"She is so under the control of the unions that they would call the shots. Back to mass walkouts, work to rule and flying pickets - the best of 1970s industrial action. She is also as thick as a brick so don't expect any inciteful leadership ideas.
Remember the last heavy batch of strikes? They happens under the Tories. And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK "
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"Equivalent ability with statesmanship, which he's been good at globally. And deploy this more wisely internally.
Andy Burnham would be an ideal person but can't currently. I hope Angela Rayner eventually becomes their 1st woman leader and PM. "
Are you mad our Ang… utter lunatic |
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"My view is that Rayner is of the belief that businesses are cruelly exploiting the workers and that there needs to be a rebalancing. She's also clearly very close to the trade unions.
What's your opinion of her, and why do you believe that she wouldn't change the law on flying pickets?
I believe she wouldn’t because pickets are not the tool they once were for unions, when social media does a ga better job. It’s also small fry in the grand scheme of things ...
All of the things you say are true. However just because you and I agree on that doesn't mean that Angela Rayner will have the same opinion.
There are plenty in the unions that believe that everything done by Thatcher must be undone, and also believe that flying pickets were effective in the past and would be just as effective today. Those people will have the ear of Rayner if she becomes PM.
... and finally, this government isn’t particularly left leaning. It’s a very centrist mob who haven’t thus far particularly aided, assisted or even hinted at being massive trade union supporters.
But if Rayner become PM, it wouldn't be 'this government', it would be a different one with different ministers, and a very different direction.
Rayner's made no secret of the fact that she hates rich people and fat cat directors, and I would expect her to waste no time in pushing policies that she thinks will redress the balance of power. If the unions tell her that changing the law on flying pickets will enhance their ability to protect workers from exploitative bosses, I'd expect Rayner to believe them and push for change."
But she does everything possible to protect her own wealth |
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK
They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law.
By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like.
Your statement above was made in the context of someone suggesting that if Angela Rayner were made leader we'd see flying pockets back again. It's not far fetched to think that Rayner might change the law to benefit trade unions.
It’s incredibly far fetched to suggest what would constitute an enormous change to picketing rules.
Clearly you and I have very different opinions on what sort of person Angela Rayner is, and what her motivations are.
My view is that Rayner is of the belief that businesses are cruelly exploiting the workers and that there needs to be a rebalancing. She's also clearly very close to the trade unions.
What's your opinion of her, and why do you believe that she wouldn't change the law on flying pickets?
I believe she wouldn’t because pickets are not the tool they once were for unions, when social media does a ga better job. It’s also small fry in the grand scheme of things, and finally, this government isn’t particularly left leaning. It’s a very centrist mob who haven’t thus far particularly aided, assisted or even hinted at being massive trade union supporters.
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You obviously missed the huge pay increases that the nurses and Drs had haven’t you
The equally large increases in pay for railway worker
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"And flying pickets are unlawful in the UK
They won't be unlawful if someone changes the law.
By that logic, we can make any ‘prediction’ we like.
Your statement above was made in the context of someone suggesting that if Angela Rayner were made leader we'd see flying pockets back again. It's not far fetched to think that Rayner might change the law to benefit trade unions.
It’s incredibly far fetched to suggest what would constitute an enormous change to picketing rules.
Clearly you and I have very different opinions on what sort of person Angela Rayner is, and what her motivations are.
My view is that Rayner is of the belief that businesses are cruelly exploiting the workers and that there needs to be a rebalancing. She's also clearly very close to the trade unions.
What's your opinion of her, and why do you believe that she wouldn't change the law on flying pickets?
I believe she wouldn’t because pickets are not the tool they once were for unions, when social media does a ga better job. It’s also small fry in the grand scheme of things, and finally, this government isn’t particularly left leaning. It’s a very centrist mob who haven’t thus far particularly aided, assisted or even hinted at being massive trade union supporters.
You obviously missed the huge pay increases that the nurses and Drs had haven’t you
The equally large increases in pay for railway worker
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No, didn’t miss them at all. Fully aware of them, in fact
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A bloody good businessman.
As everyone we have had recently is bloody awful. A good budinessman will how to balance the books, keep people sort of happy, as they dealt with his employees, supply chains, etc. |
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"A bloody good businessman.
As everyone we have had recently is bloody awful. A good budinessman will how to balance the books, keep people sort of happy, as they dealt with his employees, supply chains, etc."
You can’t run a country like you run a business.
The problem we have is that parties only look to he next 4-5 years and getting reelected. Many of our services and issues such as climate, housing etc should be 10-20, maybe 30 year plans - and they require A LOT of expenditure, expenditure which won’t be recouped for a long time. |
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That's a tough one. Starmer has and will always be a fake manufactured wind sock. Unfortunately Labour have lost their way and no longer represent working people. It's now full of unpractical ideology driven plebs! |
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