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Is berating the colour of someone’s skin racist? For example, if Rupert Lowe were to slag off how black Diane Abbot or David Lammy are, would that be considered racism or would than be ok in your eyes?
Or the yellow tinge to the skin that some people from the far east have, would slagging that off be racist?
Are some colours open season tho, such as orange for example?
Why is colour prejudice allowed to be posted? |
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up."
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin? |
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"Is berating the colour of someone’s skin racist? For example, if Rupert Lowe were to slag off how black Diane Abbot or David Lammy are, would that be considered racism or would than be ok in your eyes?
Or the yellow tinge to the skin that some people from the far east have, would slagging that off be racist?
Are some colours open season tho, such as orange for example?
Why is colour prejudice allowed to be posted? "
In this case. It's not racism, it's Oompa Loompasm. |
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up.
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin? "
It's not ok and you're making a very good point.
If a woman politician is criticised due to the way she looks it's called out and rightly so.
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"Trump just looks orange. I'm not sure that he actually is..."
But you could say that about anyone. Many women and some men change their perceived skin colour with cosmetics, Katie Price being the perfect example.
I’d guess it’s a bad sunbed experience but it could just as easily be a medical condition. There’s quite a few conditions that can affect skin colour.
I just think it’s fascinating how the colour of one persons skin can be mocked openly in a very abusive manner and it’s considered fine, but to do it about other individuals isn’t. I get some people hate the bloke more than Ian Huntley, but what I don’t get is the abuse about how he looks rather than what he actually does or doesn’t do.
Does his skin colour affect your opinion on the Iran situation?
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up.
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin?
It's not ok and you're making a very good point.
If a woman politician is criticised due to the way she looks it's called out and rightly so.
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May I ask what the “official” position is on such comments? If they were reported would they be removed? Each would be taken on its own merits of course, just curious.
Could be about anyone of course, not just Trump, that’s why my OP didn’t name anyone in particular. |
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up.
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin?
It's not ok and you're making a very good point.
If a woman politician is criticised due to the way she looks it's called out and rightly so.
May I ask what the “official” position is on such comments? If they were reported would they be removed? Each would be taken on its own merits of course, just curious.
Could be about anyone of course, not just Trump, that’s why my OP didn’t name anyone in particular. "
I can't speak for admin but from a forum mod position it's not breaking any rules that I can see to refer to him as orange.
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up.
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin?
It's not ok and you're making a very good point.
If a woman politician is criticised due to the way she looks it's called out and rightly so.
May I ask what the “official” position is on such comments? If they were reported would they be removed? Each would be taken on its own merits of course, just curious.
Could be about anyone of course, not just Trump, that’s why my OP didn’t name anyone in particular.
I can't speak for admin but from a forum mod position it's not breaking any rules that I can see to refer to him as orange.
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Thanks for that. What about the post calling Trump a fat turd? Is not not considered abuse? Or are the rules on abuse only applicable to forum users? |
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up.
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin?
It's not ok and you're making a very good point.
If a woman politician is criticised due to the way she looks it's called out and rightly so.
May I ask what the “official” position is on such comments? If they were reported would they be removed? Each would be taken on its own merits of course, just curious.
Could be about anyone of course, not just Trump, that’s why my OP didn’t name anyone in particular.
I can't speak for admin but from a forum mod position it's not breaking any rules that I can see to refer to him as orange.
Thanks for that. What about the post calling Trump a fat turd? Is not not considered abuse? Or are the rules on abuse only applicable to forum users? "
If you think something is abusive or breaks forum rules the best thing to do is report it, saying why. Then whoever is modding can look at it in context. |
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up.
So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?
I’m not a Trump fan by the way, just curious when it comes to line drawing
So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin?
It's not ok and you're making a very good point.
If a woman politician is criticised due to the way she looks it's called out and rightly so.
May I ask what the “official” position is on such comments? If they were reported would they be removed? Each would be taken on its own merits of course, just curious.
Could be about anyone of course, not just Trump, that’s why my OP didn’t name anyone in particular.
I can't speak for admin but from a forum mod position it's not breaking any rules that I can see to refer to him as orange.
Thanks for that. What about the post calling Trump a fat turd? Is not not considered abuse? Or are the rules on abuse only applicable to forum users?
If you think something is abusive or breaks forum rules the best thing to do is report it, saying why. Then whoever is modding can look at it in context. "
I know this isn’t fabguys but I used to have a regular fuck buddy who used the forum on there a couple of years ago and they got warned they would get banned if they kept reporting stuff.
Abuse is a very subjective term. Which is why being offended isn’t a crime.
But thanks for your input |
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What about the personal abuse and insults on Sir Keir Starmer.
It's the nature of the forum, it's light hearted and anyone who takes it too seriously should probably stay clear of social media for a while in my opinion |
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"What about the post calling Trump a fat turd? Is not not considered abuse? Or are the rules on abuse only applicable to forum users? "
Public figures are held to a different standard than private citizens - especially so with Trump, who abuses and insults on a daily basis. But seeing as how he is fat, he is orange and he is a turd, is it an insult or an apt description? |
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"What about the personal abuse and insults on Sir Keir Starmer.
It's the nature of the forum, it's light hearted and anyone who takes it too seriously should probably stay clear of social media for a while in my opinion "
Surely the difference is that Starmer actually is a cunt ? |
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If the skin colour is their natural one, you don't take the piss. If it's augumented to look stupid, you can. So anyone who wears trowels of makaeeup, especially orange is fair game. |
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"What about the personal abuse and insults on Sir Keir Starmer.
It's the nature of the forum, it's light hearted and anyone who takes it too seriously should probably stay clear of social media for a while in my opinion
Surely the difference is that Starmer actually is a cunt ?"
But he doesn't like little under age ones like your orange hero |
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"Orange is not the colour of Trump's skin, it's the colour of the cosmetics he uses.
It perfectly fine to criticise a person's choice of make-up."
"So taking the piss out of the way someone looks is a good thing to do?"
I didn't say it was a good thing, I said it was acceptable to mock someone that looks ridiculous.
"So if a brown skinned person used cosmetics to make their skin look darker, it’s ok to mock their black skin?"
If a brown skinned person used cosmetics in a way that made them look ridiculous, it's OK to mock that. If a brown skinned person used cosmetics just to make their skin darker (or lighter), there's nothing to mock. |
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Abusive comments don't break Forum rules as he's not, I don't think, a Fab member.
The wider issue is the effect of constant foul language and abusive content in multiple threads which often just repeat the same content. They certainly make the Politics Section looks like an unwelcoming place for many Fab users I'm sure, but perhaps the intention is to exclude critical or intelligent voices so ranting can continue unchallenged ? |
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"What about the personal abuse and insults on Sir Keir Starmer.
It's the nature of the forum, it's light hearted and anyone who takes it too seriously should probably stay clear of social media for a while in my opinion "
I’ve never seen a post criticising what Starmer looks like, only his policies or lack thereof. Happy to stand corrected. |
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"Abusive comments don't break Forum rules as he's not, I don't think, a Fab member.
The wider issue is the effect of constant foul language and abusive content in multiple threads which often just repeat the same content. They certainly make the Politics Section looks like an unwelcoming place for many Fab users I'm sure, but perhaps the intention is to exclude critical or intelligent voices so ranting can continue unchallenged ?"
Didn't you just commit the same offence by labelling Kier Starmer as a cunt??
Or was it sarcasm again? 🤣🤣🤣 |
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"Abusive comments don't break Forum rules as he's not, I don't think, a Fab member.
The wider issue is the effect of constant foul language and abusive content in multiple threads which often just repeat the same content. They certainly make the Politics Section looks like an unwelcoming place for many Fab users I'm sure, but perhaps the intention is to exclude critical or intelligent voices so ranting can continue unchallenged ?
Didn't you just commit the same offence by labelling Kier Starmer as a cunt??
Or was it sarcasm again? 🤣🤣🤣"
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"What about the personal abuse and insults on Sir Keir Starmer.
It's the nature of the forum, it's light hearted and anyone who takes it too seriously should probably stay clear of social media for a while in my opinion
Surely the difference is that Starmer actually is a cunt ?
But he doesn't like little under age ones like your orange hero"
nah just ukrainian rent boys |
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"Plane emojis don't trump rational debate. Remember the mess youade the last time you tried that?"
Let me make it simple for you then.
1. The poster I replied to uses the word 'cunt' and other abusive terms - today's is 'fat turd' - in almost all his contributions.
2. I replied using the word 'cunt'.
3. I don't habitually use that word, or other abusive terms.
4. So yes it was humour, whether successful or not.
5. How's that link about Nigel Farage coming along? You seemed to be called away to an emergency the last time I asked. |
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"What about the personal abuse and insults on Sir Keir Starmer.
It's the nature of the forum, it's light hearted and anyone who takes it too seriously should probably stay clear of social media for a while in my opinion
Surely the difference is that Starmer actually is a cunt ?
But he doesn't like little under age ones like your orange heronah just ukrainian rent boys"
And where is your evidence of an accusation. We all know Trumps, it's pretty public now?
Awful I am defending Starmer, not a man I support |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled."
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake. |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake."
An honest and easy mistake to make. |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake."
He's still a wrong un..  |
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"Plane emojis don't trump rational debate. Remember the mess youade the last time you tried that?
Let me make it simple for you then.
1. The poster I replied to uses the word 'cunt' and other abusive terms - today's is 'fat turd' - in almost all his contributions.
2. I replied using the word 'cunt'.
3. I don't habitually use that word, or other abusive terms.
4. So yes it was humour, whether successful or not.
5. How's that link about Nigel Farage coming along? You seemed to be called away to an emergency the last time I asked."
You already have all the evidence on Farage - and you thought that trying to poison the many, many wells would make it not be true, remember?
As for your backpedaling, you'll end up wearing out the cogs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
He's still a wrong un.. "
Who needs courts when we have a fab forum lol |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
He's still a wrong un..
Who needs courts when we have a fab forum lol "
Some might say it was a false accusation, but I prefer honest mistake. |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
He's still a wrong un..
Who needs courts when we have a fab forum lol "
There's a difference which I'm sure you know..
As much as many might like to hold him to account on here theres no legal basis lol..
Still a wrongun.. |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
He's still a wrong un..
Who needs courts when we have a fab forum lol "
It's just the Alternative Facts baby. You love them really. |
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Couldn't give a crap what colour someone is.
It's the content of the word's coming out of their mouths which is important and Trump talks more shit than anyone on earth which in My opinion is fair game for criticism and nothing to do with appearances.
It's interesting because people didn't think twice about taking the piss out of Bo Jo's appearance.
But taking the piss is a time honoured British Tradition, life would be extremely boring and sterile if we couldn't rip the piss out of some complete arsehole !! |
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But taking the piss is a time honoured British Tradition, life would be extremely boring and sterile if we couldn't rip the piss out of some complete arsehole !!"
Don't be so hard on yourself Brain ! 🤭 |
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But taking the piss is a time honoured British Tradition, life would be extremely boring and sterile if we couldn't rip the piss out of some complete arsehole !!
Don't be so hard on yourself Brain ! 🤭"
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake."
A federal jury implicitly found that Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated E Jean Carroll with his fingers in the 1990s |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
A federal jury implicitly found that Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated E Jean Carroll with his fingers in the 1990s"
total wrong un.. |
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"I suppose if the worst thing anyone can think of to say about a politician is about the way they look, then they must be a very good politician. "
That's why no one mentions Starmer's appearance.🤣 |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled.
Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
A federal jury implicitly found that Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated E Jean Carroll with his fingers in the 1990s
total wrong un.."
He's certainly one for being "first"
The first ever US president to be held in criminal contempt of court.
I'm not sure if he's the first to have a conviction for fraud .. probably |
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"Is berating the colour of someone’s skin racist? For example, if Rupert Lowe were to slag off how black Diane Abbot or David Lammy are, would that be considered racism or would than be ok in your eyes?
Or the yellow tinge to the skin that some people from the far east have, would slagging that off be racist?
Are some colours open season tho, such as orange for example?
Why is colour prejudice allowed to be posted? "
I thought judging someone solely on their skin colour was pretty much the definition of racism? |
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"The irony of false equivalence about a convicted sexual abu#er with a record of racism, misogynistic tropes and mocking the disabled."
"Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake."
"A federal jury implicitly found that Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated E Jean Carroll with his fingers in the 1990s"
You mean "a jury", it wasn't a federal jury. And you mean "explicitly" not implicitly, since they clearly stated that he had done it. But other than that your statement is accurate (if rather emotively phrased). |
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Just to be picky - he hasn't been convicted, he's been found liable in a civil trial. It might sound like the same thing, but many people have found themselves in court after making that mistake.
A federal jury implicitly found that Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated E Jean Carroll with his fingers in the 1990s
You mean "a jury", it wasn't a federal jury. And you mean "explicitly" not implicitly, since they clearly stated that he had done it. But other than that your statement is accurate (if rather emotively phrased)."
A couple of words were changed so that it couldn't be construed as breech of copyright and of course fab doesn't allow direct links unless it's a UK newspaper but the words federal and implicitly were not changed from the original court report |
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"Is berating the colour of someone’s skin racist? For example, if Rupert Lowe were to slag off how black Diane Abbot or David Lammy are, would that be considered racism or would than be ok in your eyes?
Or the yellow tinge to the skin that some people from the far east have, would slagging that off be racist?
Are some colours open season tho, such as orange for example?
Why is colour prejudice allowed to be posted?
I thought judging someone solely on their skin colour was pretty much the definition of racism?"
Me too. Racism isn’t illegal of course. In fact in some cultures it’s positively encouraged, almost compulsory. |
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"A federal jury implicitly found that Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated E Jean Carroll with his fingers in the 1990s"
"You mean "a jury", it wasn't a federal jury. And you mean "explicitly" not implicitly, since they clearly stated that he had done it. But other than that your statement is accurate (if rather emotively phrased)."
"A couple of words were changed so that it couldn't be construed as breech of copyright and of course fab doesn't allow direct links unless it's a UK newspaper but the words federal and implicitly were not changed from the original court report"
That's interesting. I've had a quick search and the only place I can find "federal jury" and "implicitly" is on a FindLaw article labelled as "partially written by AI". Would you mind telling me what site you got that text from?
But I'm guessing that the important part of your post was that Trump was found to have sexually assaulted E Jean Carroll, and that bit is completely accurate. |
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"Is berating the colour of someone’s skin racist? For example, if Rupert Lowe were to slag off how black Diane Abbot or David Lammy are, would that be considered racism or would than be ok in your eyes?
Or the yellow tinge to the skin that some people from the far east have, would slagging that off be racist?
Are some colours open season tho, such as orange for example?
Why is colour prejudice allowed to be posted? "
Your master can help the colour orange he is!!
Black and brown people have it inately.
No one has created a trade around being orange and lying!! |
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