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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

Damning conclusions from the official Inquiry into the Southport murders by Axel Rudakubana in 2024.

Quite clear the murders could have been prevented if multiple authorities had acted correctly after his previous violent attacks and threats.

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Multiple referrals to Prevent anti terrorism programme without any action.

His parents heavily criticised for their lack of action.

What consequences should follow and will anyone be held to account ?

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cqxlqv3xqe5t

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By *ydaz70Man 3 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay

But lessons will be learnt I would be happy if like america his parents were also charged they did absolutely nothing to stop him and even knew machetes had been delivered cowards all of them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

"But lessons will be learnt I would be happy if like america his parents were also charged they did absolutely nothing to stop him and even knew machetes had been delivered cowards all of them."

They certainly should be prosecuted. I can only imagine the atmosphere he grew up in and serious questions about why they were ever given asylum.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

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By *iquanteMan 3 weeks ago

Birmingham

Rwanda? I thought the lad was Welsh.

Certainly looks like the police should review the case again and consider prosecuting the parents.

Not clear at all why, even in cases where asylum is granted on legitimate grounds, they aren’t deported when the country they have “escaped” from becomes safe again. Rwanda is a popular tourist destination nowadays so no idea why there are any Rwandan “refugees” living in the UK.

As for the failed state institutions just another day in Broken Britain unfortunately, anyone found to be incompetent should be fired and have their pension taken off them. Sadly they have likely already been promoted elsewhere.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist

Not in the Report and not part of the findings. But considering the form you already have for making stuff up because it sounds good, we shouldn't be surprised at yet another Porky Pie.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away."

Genuinely appalling if predictable response. This was an Inquiry into the murder of three children and this a thread to discuss the conclusions. To come into the thread to post juvenile abuse and discredited propaganda has to be the worst judged comment I've ever seen on here. Please don't be that person, and if you really are, then please don't disgrace yourself on this thread.

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By *ydaz70Man 3 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

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they can't help themselves next up will be something to do with trump

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

I'd say that Slippery Nigel whistling up a pogrom was far more appalling than calling him out for it - but that's just me. Last time I looked you weren't the arbiter of what happens here so maybe sit down and STFU?

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By (user no longer on site) 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it.

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By *adBod_76Man 3 weeks ago

Witham

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?"

Erm..no. Why should they?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it. "

There are people in here who probably still think the killer really was an asylum seeker and that the Farage Riots were just about "taking our country back"

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By *ydaz70Man 3 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?

Erm..no. Why should they?"
maybe because they did f all to stop him

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By *adBod_76Man 3 weeks ago

Witham

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?

Erm..no. Why should they? maybe because they did f all to stop him

So we're criminalising the parents of all murderers now?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?

Erm..no. Why should they? maybe because they did f all to stop him

Nigel Farage did f all to stop the riots he started. Can we deport him as well?

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By *adBod_76Man 3 weeks ago

Witham

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?

Erm..no. Why should they? maybe because they did f all to stop him

Nigel Farage did f all to stop the riots he started. Can we deport him as well?"

I hear he'd quite like to go to Diego Garcia...

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

Should his Rwandan parents, who were given asylum by the UK, now be deported ?

Erm..no. Why should they? maybe because they did f all to stop him

So we're criminalising the parents of all murderers now?"

Not all. Only the black or brown ones

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it. "

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

they can't help themselves next up will be something to do with trump "

I would disagree. It's a choice to be that way, a very bad choice.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it.

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect."

Crocodile tears. 20,000 children dead in Gaza and you couldn't give a shit. In fact just mentioning it is ANTISEMITIC, right?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect."

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

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By (user no longer on site) 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it.

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

Crocodile tears. 20,000 children dead in Gaza and you couldn't give a shit. In fact just mentioning it is ANTISEMITIC, right?"

So you’re in favour of black adults killing white children but not different shades of brown killing each other?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out.."

This is a pattern that we're all used to with the OP - Making stuff up and then skipping away when called out on it, only to sneak back clutching his pearls at something or other.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it.

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

Crocodile tears. 20,000 children dead in Gaza and you couldn't give a shit. In fact just mentioning it is ANTISEMITIC, right?

So you’re in favour of black adults killing white children but not different shades of brown killing each other? "

If that's the way your muddled mind works, then I can't help you.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan 3 weeks ago

nearby

'systemic failure of the state‘ says Mahmood

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
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Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

This is a pattern that we're all used to with the OP - Making stuff up and then skipping away when called out on it, only to sneak back clutching his pearls at something or other."

The parents of the three little ones were calling for the rioters to stop it and not to use the loss of their children as an excuse by the racist fuckwits in the hours and days after their loss..

None of us can imagine their pain but they showed such dignity its truly humbling..

They've not sought to use their loss to divide people..

Truly a shame others cant adopt a small iota of their remarkable behaviours..

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out.."

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

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By (user no longer on site) 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it.

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

Crocodile tears. 20,000 children dead in Gaza and you couldn't give a shit. In fact just mentioning it is ANTISEMITIC, right?

So you’re in favour of black adults killing white children but not different shades of brown killing each other?

If that's the way your muddled mind works, then I can't help you."

Well you couldn’t deny it so we can read into that what we will.

More racism from the left

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?"

Nowhere. It's been invented by the OP

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?"

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away.

There are people in here who I fear probably think the knife man is the victim and Trump or Farage made him do it.

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

Crocodile tears. 20,000 children dead in Gaza and you couldn't give a shit. In fact just mentioning it is ANTISEMITIC, right?

So you’re in favour of black adults killing white children but not different shades of brown killing each other?

If that's the way your muddled mind works, then I can't help you.

Well you couldn’t deny it so we can read into that what we will.

More racism from the left "

Oh dear. You're really not very good at this, are you?

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By *imba NinjaMan 3 weeks ago

Aberdeen

Another Lord haw haw production

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson."

Lie.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted."

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
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Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson."

I have just read the link you posted, now I may have missed it I know but I didn't see anything about that. Could you point it out please

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to.."

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed.

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
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O o O oo

I know threads sometimes don't always stay on track but lets not bring in other subjects from other threads please, keep them to those threads

Also discuss the post, not the poster please

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed."

Actually she doesn't say what your claiming?

Can you show specifically where she said what you've claimed please?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed."

The source you provided doesn't support your initial claim. That's your problem right there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson.

I have just read the link you posted, now I may have missed it I know but I didn't see anything about that. Could you point it out please"

The link is a summary of the Inquiry's finding as I think it's not allowed to post too many links to every detail of a long public Inquiry. If you search Joanne Hodson and her evidence you will see her comments in more detail.

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
Forum Mod

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Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson.

I have just read the link you posted, now I may have missed it I know but I didn't see anything about that. Could you point it out please

The link is a summary of the Inquiry's finding as I think it's not allowed to post too many links to every detail of a long public Inquiry.."

You can post the relevant one to answer the question if it is in the allowed links list ( BBC news is )

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
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Stop attacking the OP

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"I know threads sometimes don't always stay on track but lets not bring in other subjects from other threads please, keep them to those threads

Also discuss the post, not the poster please"

When one OP regularly and consistently misrepresents facts in order to pursue a one man culture war, the post and the poster become equally problematic.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan 3 weeks ago

nearby

Five years ago in Plymouth, a white man Jake Davison shot and killed five people including a three year old girl. Perpetrator with history of adhd and mental illness granted shotgun licence by Devon and Cornwall police. Parents not deported.

Another mistakes made and lessons learned, but what else can be said and done after the event.

Tragic murders and no postmortem can change what happened

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson.

I have just read the link you posted, now I may have missed it I know but I didn't see anything about that. Could you point it out please

The link is a summary of the Inquiry's finding as I think it's not allowed to post too many links to every detail of a long public Inquiry..

You can post the relevant one to answer the question if it is in the allowed links list ( BBC news is )"

I will try and find the evidence directly from the Inquiry which I believe is all online, as any press report I post will clearly be questioned (nor by you). This may take a little time as it's a large archive!

But equally anyone can Google Joanne Hodson and find more details of her evidence.

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"I know threads sometimes don't always stay on track but lets not bring in other subjects from other threads please, keep them to those threads

Also discuss the post, not the poster please

When one OP regularly and consistently misrepresents facts in order to pursue a one man culture war, the post and the poster become equally problematic."

You can challenge people, but need to stay within the rules when doing so

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed.

Actually she doesn't say what your claiming?

Can you show specifically where she said what you've claimed please?"

I have replied to this point to Rugby, but if you believe she doesn't say what I'm claiming then perhaps you could save me some time and link to her evidence?

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
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O o O oo

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson.

I have just read the link you posted, now I may have missed it I know but I didn't see anything about that. Could you point it out please

The link is a summary of the Inquiry's finding as I think it's not allowed to post too many links to every detail of a long public Inquiry..

You can post the relevant one to answer the question if it is in the allowed links list ( BBC news is )

But equally anyone can Google Joanne Hodson and find more details of her evidence."

I think you should provide it please as it is in your OP and not in the link you provided. Once provided it will get the thread back on track.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

My claim in the OP was:

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Contemporary press reports of the Inquiry say:

"killer’s headteacher “agreed to remove the word ‘sinister’ and comments referring to Rudakubana as ‘cold and calculating’ from an education plan after mental health workers accused her of racially profiling a black boy with a knife.”

The failure to properly diagnose Axel is given by the Inquiry as one of the key failings by public bodies.

I know whatever point I make will not be acceptable to all but I will link directly to the Inquiry archive when time allows.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed.

Actually she doesn't say what your claiming?

Can you show specifically where she said what you've claimed please?

I have replied to this point to Rugby, but if you believe she doesn't say what I'm claiming then perhaps you could save me some time and link to her evidence?"

I've read several different media outlets directly reporting what she said on the day she gave evidence..

None of them say anything like what you've said..

Where did you read what your claiming?

Stop deflecting and trying to obfuscate and simply say..

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed.

Actually she doesn't say what your claiming?

Can you show specifically where she said what you've claimed please?

I have replied to this point to Rugby, but if you believe she doesn't say what I'm claiming then perhaps you could save me some time and link to her evidence?

I've read several different media outlets directly reporting what she said on the day she gave evidence..

None of them say anything like what you've said..

Where did you read what your claiming?

Stop deflecting and trying to obfuscate and simply say.."

The answer is above, the source is the contemporary report from the Daily Mail.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Where did it say this please?

It's in the evidence given to the Inquiry by Headmaster Joanne Hodson.

I have just read the link you posted, now I may have missed it I know but I didn't see anything about that. Could you point it out please

The link is a summary of the Inquiry's finding as I think it's not allowed to post too many links to every detail of a long public Inquiry..

You can post the relevant one to answer the question if it is in the allowed links list ( BBC news is )

But equally anyone can Google Joanne Hodson and find more details of her evidence.

I think you should provide it please as it is in your OP and not in the link you provided. Once provided it will get the thread back on track."

You are more optimistic than me ! 🤣

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"My claim in the OP was:

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Contemporary press reports of the Inquiry say:

The failure to properly diagnose Axel is given by the Inquiry as one of the key failings by public bodies.

I know whatever point I make will not be acceptable to all but I will link directly to the Inquiry archive when time allows."

No mention in any reports including the mail of this claim that mental health workers said she was racially profiling him in relation to her use of the word sinister..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed.

Actually she doesn't say what your claiming?

Can you show specifically where she said what you've claimed please?

I have replied to this point to Rugby, but if you believe she doesn't say what I'm claiming then perhaps you could save me some time and link to her evidence?

I've read several different media outlets directly reporting what she said on the day she gave evidence..

None of them say anything like what you've said..

Where did you read what your claiming?

Stop deflecting and trying to obfuscate and simply say..

The answer is above, the source is the contemporary report from the Daily Mail."

Read it, its not there what your claiming.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"My claim in the OP was:

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Contemporary press reports of the Inquiry say:

The failure to properly diagnose Axel is given by the Inquiry as one of the key failings by public bodies.

I know whatever point I make will not be acceptable to all but I will link directly to the Inquiry archive when time allows."

And still you try to twist the truth....

Your post opened with

"Damning conclusions from the official Inquiry into the Southport murders by Axel Rudakubana in 2024."

You know as well everyone else that a single piece of witness evidence is not a "damning conclusion from the official Inquiry" by any stretch.

Even the Daily Mail stopped short of making that claim.

So why not hold your hand up to lying?

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

I think that has been made very clear. Three children dead and pissing on their memory for comic effect.

You lied (once again) when you added a racist trope about the killers race being part of the failings..

Using their utterly sad and atrocious murders to do that..

Why?

You have no moral position to call anyone out..

You clearly didn't read the evidence to the Inquiry given by Headmaster Joanne Hodson. But we can see clearly now where you stand so your contribution wasn't entirely wasted.

In her opinion..

The findings do not reflect it..

Yet you searched for it ..

Own it tall..

Own the depths you've sunk to..

You accused me of lying.

I've told you the source.

Now you're accusing the witness to the Inquiry of lying, a professional person who was clearly deeply affected by this tragedy.

I feel no further comment is needed.

Actually she doesn't say what your claiming?

Can you show specifically where she said what you've claimed please?

I have replied to this point to Rugby, but if you believe she doesn't say what I'm claiming then perhaps you could save me some time and link to her evidence?

I've read several different media outlets directly reporting what she said on the day she gave evidence..

None of them say anything like what you've said..

Where did you read what your claiming?

Stop deflecting and trying to obfuscate and simply say..

The answer is above, the source is the contemporary report from the Daily Mail.

Read it, its not there what your claiming.

You've read what ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

"My claim in the OP was:

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Contemporary press reports of the Inquiry say:

The failure to properly diagnose Axel is given by the Inquiry as one of the key failings by public bodies.

I know whatever point I make will not be acceptable to all but I will link directly to the Inquiry archive when time allows.

No mention in any reports including the mail of this claim that mental health workers said she was racially profiling him in relation to her use of the word sinister..

That is literally a verbatim report from the Mail ! We can debate this in good faith or you can derail the thread with some curious personal obsession, its your shout.

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By (user no longer on site) OP 3 weeks ago

"The Farage Riots could also have been prevented if Slippery Nigel has put his dog whistle away."

In the interests of fairness, and as Ive responded to all polite posts, could we now have any links to show that Nigel Farage was responsible for the Southport Riots, or any evidence that this is mentioned in the Inquiry with which the thread is concerned?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 3 weeks ago

Narnia

"My claim in the OP was:

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Contemporary press reports of the Inquiry say:

The failure to properly diagnose Axel is given by the Inquiry as one of the key failings by public bodies.

I know whatever point I make will not be acceptable to all but I will link directly to the Inquiry archive when time allows.

No mention in any reports including the mail of this claim that mental health workers said she was racially profiling him in relation to her use of the word sinister..

That is literally a verbatim report from the Mail ! We can debate this in good faith or you can derail the thread with some curious personal obsession, its your shout."

I don't recall you ever debating in good faith. It's just a cycle of selective outrage, mistruth and goal shifting.

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By *ugby 123Couple 3 weeks ago
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"My claim in the OP was:

Some failures to act were caused by fear of being called racist.

Contemporary press reports of the Inquiry say:

The failure to properly diagnose Axel is given by the Inquiry as one of the key failings by public bodies.

I know whatever point I make will not be acceptable to all but I will link directly to the Inquiry archive when time allows.

One comment about profiling doesn't prove there were failures to act because of race and what you seem to be impying in your OP. If it was relevant it would have been in the inquiry summary

For the benefit of doubt for others I did find a link that said the above, it is in the Spectator if you want to read it but as it doesn't totally tie in with the OP comment I am going to shut this now

If people are going to start threads for things like this please get the information spot on when relaying it rather than your own take on it.

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