Given events of the last week and indeed today - it is clear the governing party has no faith in its leader -
Furthermore last weeks election results demonstrates that the "limited" electorate has also rejected the pm and its party .
Given that when in opposition the liebour party called for GE every time we had a change of PM - yes yes a revolving door -
Surely now they have to have the truth of their convictions ?
Especialy given manifeso pledges .
Popcorn anyone ?
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By (user no longer on site) 3 weeks ago
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Nope you elect the person to be your MP, not the PM. Though some reform voters near me got confused their Nige wasn't on the ballot paper. If the UK used the system as our Senedd, maybe would be a point to call. But still nope.
There is no need for a general election, just a far right call to drag us to hell sooner.
Now the PM seems useless, but is that his lack of ideas or the vile crap spewed by the right wing media if he suggests anything. And the clear pull to populism amongst those who once voted Labour and now seek billionaire rule over them. Whoever is leader Labour needs to stick two fingers up to the press and form a new direction. Try to combat the pain austerity and brexit have caused and to hell with some bad headlines. |
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By (user no longer on site) 3 weeks ago
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Important thing to remember is that Labour Party members and MP’s are clueless fantasists so will almost certainly pick the worst possible choice as replacement for Starmer.
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By *otMe66Man 3 weeks ago
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If a new leader is chosen, they should declare their intentions to continue to deliver the manifesto that was promised. If they want to change the manifesto pledges a GE should be called.
That might bring an end to the in and out... |
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The chance of a leadership election has risen today with an MP standing down to make way for Andy Burnham. Will Starmer be able to block him being selected as the labour candidate and if he does will that damage him?. If Burnham does get selected he has a good chance to win but it's not a certainty especially given last week's results. Also a new mayor will need to be elected, again not a certainty labour will win. Plots within plots |
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"Every time we get assigned a new PM because of a resignation, someone somewhere calls for a general election.
It doesn't work like that – we vote for the party, not the figurehead.
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Actually, we only really vote for our local MP  |
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"The chance of a leadership election has risen today with an MP standing down to make way for Andy Burnham. Will Starmer be able to block him being selected as the labour candidate and if he does will that damage him?. If Burnham does get selected he has a good chance to win but it's not a certainty especially given last week's results. Also a new mayor will need to be elected, again not a certainty labour will win. Plots within plots"
The potential outcome of a Burnham challenge was 61%, against 37% for Starmer on bbc earlier. Head and shoulders over Streeting/Rayner/ Cooper. If they try and block Burnham as they tried to many of the bye elections it’s a poor look and undemocratic. |
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"The potential outcome of a Burnham challenge was 61%, against 37% for Starmer on bbc earlier. Head and shoulders over Streeting/Rayner/ Cooper. If they try and block Burnham as they tried to many of the bye elections it’s a poor look and undemocratic."
The reason they gave last time for blocking Burnham was that it would be too expensive to arrange a mayoral election. That's still true. I wouldn't be surprised to see him blocked again. |
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"The potential outcome of a Burnham challenge was 61%, against 37% for Starmer on bbc earlier. Head and shoulders over Streeting/Rayner/ Cooper. If they try and block Burnham as they tried to many of the bye elections it’s a poor look and undemocratic.
The reason they gave last time for blocking Burnham was that it would be too expensive to arrange a mayoral election. That's still true. I wouldn't be surprised to see him blocked again."
No chance - shoe in and another u-turn .
However it is not a "safe" seat quite the opposite .
And what has the current MP been given to step aside ?
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"The potential outcome of a Burnham challenge was 61%, against 37% for Starmer on bbc earlier. Head and shoulders over Streeting/Rayner/ Cooper. If they try and block Burnham as they tried to many of the bye elections it’s a poor look and undemocratic."
"The reason they gave last time for blocking Burnham was that it would be too expensive to arrange a mayoral election. That's still true. I wouldn't be surprised to see him blocked again."
"No chance - shoe in and another u-turn .
However it is not a "safe" seat quite the opposite .
And what has the current MP been given to step aside ?"
Reform will be campaigning all out to get their candidate elected over Burnham. On this occasion I would expect to see Tory voters temporarily switch to Reform just to make sure that Labour get a bloody nose.
These next few weeks are going to be very eventful. |
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By *l_xxxMan 3 weeks ago
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"The chance of a leadership election has risen today with an MP standing down to make way for Andy Burnham. Will Starmer be able to block him being selected as the labour candidate and if he does will that damage him?. If Burnham does get selected he has a good chance to win but it's not a certainty especially given last week's results. Also a new mayor will need to be elected, again not a certainty labour will win. Plots within plots
The potential outcome of a Burnham challenge was 61%, against 37% for Starmer on bbc earlier. Head and shoulders over Streeting/Rayner/ Cooper. If they try and block Burnham as they tried to many of the bye elections it’s a poor look and undemocratic. "
A touch undemocratic to listen to the promises of your local MP who is "there for you" to then quit because of internal bitching. |
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I don’t like MPs standing aside like this but if the Labour NEC give Burnham the nod, I can see him winning there. Local connections + seems a fairly popular GM Mayor.
Plus, a vote for Reform means there is a greater chance of Starmer staying as PM. |
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By (user no longer on site) 3 weeks ago
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I guess Burnham will have to hope the peasants turn up, doff their caps to him, and vote as they are bid, so he can head down to London like some latter day Napoleon returning from Elba.
Labour hates the hereditary peers but here they are trying to pass their seats around like some entitled nobs because it suits their petty internecine squabbling.
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"Every time we get assigned a new PM because of a resignation, someone somewhere calls for a general election.
It doesn't work like that – we vote for the party, not the figurehead.
Actually, we only really vote for our local MP "
Technically correct, but it suits the system to have people believing otherwise. |
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"I don’t like MPs standing aside like this but if the Labour NEC give Burnham the nod, I can see him winning there. Local connections + seems a fairly popular GM Mayor.
Plus, a vote for Reform means there is a greater chance of Starmer staying as PM."
I'm guessing that most Reform supporters would prefer Starmer over Burnham. |
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"I don’t like MPs standing aside like this but if the Labour NEC give Burnham the nod, I can see him winning there. Local connections + seems a fairly popular GM Mayor.
Plus, a vote for Reform means there is a greater chance of Starmer staying as PM.
I'm guessing that most Reform supporters would prefer Starmer over Burnham."
Yes, Reform supporters likely would as it ‘continues the ineptness’ in their eyes as well as a possible perception that Burnham is to the left of Starmer, but ex-Labour voters (and others) may prefer the prospect of Burnham as PM over Starmer & be enticed by that prospect.
Put it this way, I’d personally give Burnham better odds of winning the seat than a Starmerite at the moment. |
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By *ermbiMan 3 weeks ago
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"If there is a leadership challenge , which there should be as starter is a joke, there should be a general election as Labour has gone back on every pre election promise."
Thats not the premise for calling a GE.
Everyone is an authority on running the country and how it should be done. Its a tough job and id say a lonely place at the moment for the PM |
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